Hi, Nice video, however in 2:38 c8=Q would be a mistake, because black would play Qh3 and win the white Queen. So instead of Ke6 maybe Ke7 should have been played.
These really show the importance of king centralisation, how much more dangerous pawns are per each rank advance and that the relative value of a king is at least 2 or maybe 3 pawns
You promote as well, and black couldn't convert this because he has no way of skewering your king and queen. All he can do are checks. If he stop giving checks, than you would start checking until a draw is achieve
@@ChessCrafters-lk4dv Thanks for the response. Is K+Q vs K+Q+P usually a draw if the pawn isn't about to promote then? You might think that provided you own queen defends the paint, that your king could work its way towards it for shelter. It is an interesting and surprising position for sure. I could possibly have drawn it playing it out, but I certainly did not see all the little details ahead of time. Knowing the Reti position leads you to a lot of the right moves on principle though.
What if at 07:07 black doesn't move the king to b7? Instead is promoting the pawn f2-f1 to Queen? Then check white until gets the black Queen??? #CheckMate
This puzzle is very nice and incredible. i think this is called the The Crooked Path, when the king has to take strange geometrical paths to reach a goal. there is a simplifice puzzle that is similar like this with a black pawn on h4 and the white king on g7 i think... where the king has to go down diagonaly to move both closer to the black AND closer to the white pawn in that case also on c6. This seems with some added layers with 2 more pawns.. incredible stuff. ah now i see you have a video on that.. the pawn is on h5 not h4, great stuff. ty.
Very nice derivate of the super famous puzzle (Reti's study) without black f and g pawns, with pawn on h5 and white king on h8. This one is "spicier" with f and g pawns.
No, sir. This chess study by Richard Retí is world famous and very, very, and very, very often published in millions of chess magazines. Every good chess player who studies endgames knows the Retí chess studies!
Then white king goes to e5.. if black king captures white pawn, then white king captures black pawn, if black pawn moves f3, then white king go d6 to help pawn to promote
Hmm what if Blacks first move is Kb6 and when white plays Kxg7, Black moves f5 and keep moving the F pawn until it is promotes. If white Kings take the H pawn after f5 White will lose. Instead White has to move Kf6 and Ke5. Meanwhile Black just advances the f pawn until it promotes. Now both Black and White get a Queen but Black then still l have the H pawn. Can't Black win that endgame ? Edit typos.
No, black can't win that endgame, even if he has one pawn up, because, with the correct play from white, he wouldn't be able to force a queen trade. If he would try to promote his pawn by playing H5, white will give checks until a draw is achieved. Both ways is a draw
this is an application of the Reti endgame study, I don't think it happened in a real game, I mean I am pretty sure that at least a variation of it has happened in a real game, somewhere. But those positions are usually created to prove a tactical pattern.
I don’t understand. If black simply captures the white pawn , without moving his own pawns, and then marches his king over to his own pawns, white is helpless. This position is a certain win for black isn’t it?
Black will need 2 moves to capture white pawn and in those 2 moves white will capture the G pawn and the F pawn. And the white king being on the F file could reach the H file first, by moving on the diagonal path, to be able to stop black from promoting
@@jesnjoseph4907After the first move Kg6, white is just 1 move away from capturing the g pawn, while black is 2 moves away from that. If you still cannot get it, I suggest you put this endgame in stockfish and play against it as black, that’s much faster than figuring it out by just reading explanations in words.
not really, I think people over 2000 on online chess could draw this as well. This is why it's important to study the classics endgame( reti, philidor, saavedra etc.) because you will know how to respond accordingly with enough practice.
Don't forget to also check the first video about Reti endgame study! ( link in the video description)
At 7:00 Black promotes first, which leads to a Queen trade.
@@Rafael-w4j black can't force a queen trade
Hi, Nice video, however in 2:38 c8=Q would be a mistake, because black would play Qh3 and win the white Queen.
So instead of Ke6 maybe Ke7 should have been played.
c8=Q+, it comes with check, meaning they can't do that.
white will promote with a check, so black doesn't have the time to move Qh3, because he must first move his king.
I am glad you liked the video!
Thank you for clarifying I missed the check :-) @@ChessCrafters-lk4dv
If black plays Qh3+, they would immediately lose due to illegal move since they are in check
Excellent… AGAIN!
Thank you! Cheers!
These really show the importance of king centralisation, how much more dangerous pawns are per each rank advance and that the relative value of a king is at least 2 or maybe 3 pawns
indeed, most people disregard the kings importance, especially in the endgames
@7:05 Ehat happens if black promotes instead of Kb7?
You promote as well, and black couldn't convert this because he has no way of skewering your king and queen. All he can do are checks.
If he stop giving checks, than you would start checking until a draw is achieve
@@ChessCrafters-lk4dv Thanks for the response. Is K+Q vs K+Q+P usually a draw if the pawn isn't about to promote then? You might think that provided you own queen defends the paint, that your king could work its way towards it for shelter.
It is an interesting and surprising position for sure. I could possibly have drawn it playing it out, but I certainly did not see all the little details ahead of time. Knowing the Reti position leads you to a lot of the right moves on principle though.
I usually win or lose before it happens
you will eventually encounter this type of position as well
At 2.36 the king can get forked and lose.. so white K has avoid that
my faith in not completely losing has been restored
I am glad you found it useful
Completely insane puzzle :) love it so much.
Glad you enjoy it!
What if at 07:07 black doesn't move the king to b7? Instead is promoting the pawn f2-f1 to Queen? Then check white until gets the black Queen??? #CheckMate
Because black would not have a check that will force a queen trade
This puzzle is very nice and incredible. i think this is called the The Crooked Path, when the king has to take strange geometrical paths to reach a goal. there is a simplifice puzzle that is similar like this with a black pawn on h4 and the white king on g7 i think... where the king has to go down diagonaly to move both closer to the black AND closer to the white pawn in that case also on c6. This seems with some added layers with 2 more pawns.. incredible stuff. ah now i see you have a video on that.. the pawn is on h5 not h4, great stuff. ty.
This is a variation of the Reti Endgame study. I am glad you liked the puzzle and found it useful
Very nice derivate of the super famous puzzle (Reti's study) without black f and g pawns, with pawn on h5 and white king on h8. This one is "spicier" with f and g pawns.
I am glad you found it useufl
No, sir. This chess study by Richard Retí is world famous and very, very, and very, very often published in millions of chess magazines. Every good chess player who studies endgames knows the Retí chess studies!
8:45 -> f4, black wins
Then white king goes to e5.. if black king captures white pawn, then white king captures black pawn, if black pawn moves f3, then white king go d6 to help pawn to promote
It goes into the famous Reti study after few moves.
yes, it's a practical example to how to use the study effective in a game situation
Black ignores white move to g6 and go to King b6, wins ..
7:02 If the Black king doesn't move ... Black wins.
no, it's not. Even if it's blacks turn and he has an extra pawn, he can't force a queen exchange
Actually black will win if instead of moving the king, is promoting the pawn!!!! Well spotted . 07:07 black promotes and wins...
@@MrGoMario yes but then the white c pawn promotes
Hmm what if Blacks first move is Kb6 and when white plays Kxg7, Black moves f5 and keep moving the F pawn until it is promotes. If white Kings take the H pawn after f5 White will lose. Instead White has to move Kf6 and Ke5. Meanwhile Black just advances the f pawn until it promotes. Now both Black and White get a Queen but Black then still l have the H pawn. Can't Black win that endgame ?
Edit typos.
No, black can't win that endgame, even if he has one pawn up, because, with the correct play from white, he wouldn't be able to force a queen trade.
If he would try to promote his pawn by playing H5, white will give checks until a draw is achieved.
Both ways is a draw
But *WHO* is this game between ?? Who are *THE PLAYERS ?? :O*
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this is an application of the Reti endgame study, I don't think it happened in a real game, I mean I am pretty sure that at least a variation of it has happened in a real game, somewhere.
But those positions are usually created to prove a tactical pattern.
If black king goes to a7 instead of b6, black wins
I don’t understand. If black simply captures the white pawn , without moving his own pawns, and then marches his king over to his own pawns, white is helpless. This position is a certain win for black isn’t it?
Black will need 2 moves to capture white pawn and in those 2 moves white will capture the G pawn and the F pawn. And the white king being on the F file could reach the H file first, by moving on the diagonal path, to be able to stop black from promoting
@@ChessCrafters-lk4dvwhite king also needs two moves to capture one pawn
@@jesnjoseph4907 but it's white first to move
@@jesnjoseph4907After the first move Kg6, white is just 1 move away from capturing the g pawn, while black is 2 moves away from that.
If you still cannot get it, I suggest you put this endgame in stockfish and play against it as black, that’s much faster than figuring it out by just reading explanations in words.
Thank you very much sir for teaching us very important lesson 🙏🙏🙏🙏
It's my pleasure
6:38 ok my first mistakes in this vidéo
Ah ok it was not a mistake
if you would play that, it would be a mistake
because he will reach c8 very fast
7:00 Just promote to win.
even if he promote, it would not be a win for black
If your opponent finds this they're either a GM (They're not), an engine, or cheating.
not really, I think people over 2000 on online chess could draw this as well. This is why it's important to study the classics endgame( reti, philidor, saavedra etc.) because you will know how to respond accordingly with enough practice.
Not really. As a 900. I would have done this without even planning. I wouldn't have seen it, but u would have done it
@@Dc-kk9bd you have an extraordinary tactical awarness if you would found this in a game
What if my opponent is a GM who's using an engine to cheat?
@@Otoma you can brag how you’ve draw a cheating gm