Johnny May Be Worse Than Colleen Ballinger | Swoop Interview Body Language Analysis
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I feel so bad for swoop because she interviewed him ready to listen to another victim and instead her own SA got minimized to “pretty cut and dry”
“fu¢ked around and found out” karma will make him eat those words mark mine, that moment made me SO angry it was like he slapped me in my face myself and I can’t be alone in that
@@healgoth you're definitely not alone in that. so sorry that you were impacted by what this sorry excuse of a human said and hope you're well ❤
@@healgoth my blood ran cold and i got full body shivers. It was so gross and absolutely rage inducing.
@@healgoth i was like "WHAT THE FÜÇK????" you absolute piece of sh!t you fücked around with swoop and are about to find out you bitçh (i'm saying this to j*hnny)
yes and i feel bad for the other victims
I think his enthusiasm in his interviews was the thing that a lot of people noticed first when the other victims were a lot quieter and less cheery in comparison.
He is just happy to talk nd hve people asking him questions about himself 🤑
Especially his creepy smiles, like he so happy to be getting the attention
In my mind at first it was like he’s also a lot older then all the victims and might been able to work thru things faster and feel as if he’s dealt with the issues as he’s older and able to do that possibly.
i noticed he put words in the other victims' mouths sometimes too, to make the already horrible situation seem even worse. i was not surprised at all that he turned out to be lying
@@loracorwyn3713even so you’re still not gonna be super grinning while talking about it actually looking like you have joyous feelings about it
his stating that he was confident in his sexuality in the context of being in a chat with teenage girls is disturbing. Why did sexuality come into mind when in that context unless there was something implicit there in the culture of the people of tour with Colleen
Yeah that was weird.
Also, his Freudian slip when he said “I didn’t want girls if anything I wanted boys - I MEAN MEN” 🤨
And then he ended up getting close to and video chatting with a bunch of teen girls anyways? It looks like most if not all of John's "fans" are girls.
@@hk0444 he LOVES devotional attention. He is so so gross 🤮
Then he said, "boys, I mean men." 🙄
YAAAASSS!!! Ive been waiting for this since the second she said "ill leave this to Observe " 😂❤❤
I think we all have.
Logan was fast too! Love both their channels so much 👌
This
Righhht!!!!!! Me too!
Same!
It's weird to me that no one has noted that...sexual grooming is still about power. It's always about power...
Just further shows how he knows nothing about being a victim or survivor of abuse of any kind
Thank you!! Someone finally said it...
Colleen's own grooming (of gay male teens) demonstrates this too so it's weird he's using 'they weren't my sexual preference' as a defense. It doesn't matter. You can still groom them and be inappropriate to them.
I'm glad Colleen's situation has brought more awareness to this. Too often grooming is viewed as sexual/lustful when it's about flexing power over someone vulnerable.
its because when you hear the word some people mind goes straight to "sexual" even though it's not which is why colleen believes she does not have a role in it that's why she not taking acccountablility
Swoop does
The most ridiculous part of that "pick me up from the airport" story is that it wasn't a formal invitation at all. Josh tweeted about his show and Johnny replied to that tweet saying that he was going and Josh was like "Yay! That's awesome." As Swoop put it, if that was an invitation, then hey, all of us were invited, too!
He was trying to copy Adams story. Adam was stranded in Dublin by Colleen as a kid. Johnny lied saying he was 17 when stranded before the show but he was 19. You can't even rent a car at 17 like he said. He's a liar.
@@KikiKitty13 If you put together the pieces you can draw the parallels so easily. It's almost funny how Johnny thought no one would catch on.
Colleen groomed me = Josh groomed me
Colleen left me stranded in Dublin = Josh left me stranded in LA
Colleen sent me lingerie = Josh sent me a ball of duct tape
Colleen sent me unsolicited pics of Trisha = But I was sent those too, and it's far worse, somehow. (Something he actually said to Adam's face)
But then again, so many people were taken in. :/
@@carolprince16 Yes you're spot on!! And copying Adams reaction to Colleens ukulele video! He saw Adam do a parody with a ukulele so he did one too. What a bizarre and scary little man he is.
@@KikiKitty13 Wait what? He copied Adam's ukulele response too? Gross. Gosh, I feel so much for Adam. The way he's been handling all this is just beyond amazing. I don't know that I'd have been able to be so poised at 21.
ETA: Swoop has recently tweeted that a few more victims have come out against Johnny. Just how deep is this shit? :/
Bc kids his age are dumb and think ppl that have actually lived life and know how things work and they DONT 😅 work they assume we are going to believe anything that comes out of their mouths. It's so stupid it's funny. It's like they think we were all born yesterday...
The fact that Johnny said Josh "f**ked around and found out" about the abuse he went through with colleen is mindblowing to me. What a nasty person. I'm so glad he got exposed.
the level of victim blaming is just...
Swoop was like "I'll leave that to observe and the behavior panel" and here you are! I was so hoping you would!
Me too 😂
Same 😂❤
Except he barely analyzed any of his body language. It’s more like a reaction/commentary on the situation with some minor comments about Johnny’s facial expressions. Really wish I could find a video where his body language is actually thoroughly analyzed with supporting ideas from theory and a sociology/psychology perspective.
Like he said it's hard to because he doesn't have the full interview, it's heavily cut
@@Quietworld43 this is the reason I unsubscribed from Observe last year. He's a reaction channel. Nothing wrong with being a reaction channel. It's just now what I'm after. I actually want that body language analysis, since that's what he touts himself to be.
Seems clear that Johnny’s intention from the beginning has been achieving fame. He chose the husband, that didn’t work. He switched to Colleen, that didn’t work. Now he’s seen the attention Adam is receiving (as he should) and is trying to ride that ‘train’ by attempting to mirror/out-do Adam’s and other victims’ stories, but it’s all smoke and no fire. He’s a terrible, self-absorbed human who feels the world owes him something he’s never earned. I think the best thing we could all do is stop saying his name.
Maybe Colleen was referring to Johnny when she sang Toxic Gossip Train 🤔
Kidding. Sort of 😂
@@justhearmeout3959 It definitely lends "credibility" (for clarification, there isn't any actual credibility) to her argument
@@user-mv5zt8qd9l ouch you're right. I wouldn't be surprised if there are supporters of hers who feel vindicated by all this 😩
@@justhearmeout3959 Sadly, no, because there are 5:28 actual victims with verifiable proof of Colleen's inappropriate and, in several cases, illegal behavior with and treatment of minors. He was just trying to steal the attention they were getting. Turns out he and his former best friend and partner in Colleen-coattail riding may be even worse than she is.
@@SusanWillful yes I'm aware. Dark humor is my coping mechanism 😂
Swoop and her team are the shit. They've blown this story wide open. I love her content. She's a quality creator..❤❤
I love how some of you creators work together 🥲❤ So much more respect for you and Swoop
She's also a good interviewer.
And how composed she was during his interview even tho he was saying things she fully disagreed with. Swoop is amazing!
I wonder if he'd reached out if Swoop and her team would have given more interview footage to be analyzed.
She’s so great!! I feel like this story is going to bring a lot more people to her channel and she deserves it!!
So I'm pretty sure Adam actually said that Johnny is completely lying about bullying Adam and keeping him out of the "tiny chats" and said he doesn't know why Johnny is making all of this up because the years didn't even line up. So some of the red flags you picked up were maybe because he was just straight up making up stories about Adam since Adam is a big part of this story.
Adam has said a few times that Johnny is completely lying about the bullying, Adam would have been like 10 when that happened so not possible.
Yep! Johnny seems jelly of Adam & the gifts & the attention. He seems like a piece of work. He’s actually blaming them for his transportation problems! As if he doesn’t understand what it is like being a performer on show day.
Bullying Adam is probably true. The details are what he lies about to suit his narrative.
I believe the only time Johnny potentially took part in bullying Adam was in 2020 when Adam put his story out about all this crap….when he was 17 years old. We know from tweets that Johnny supported Colleen’s response video in 2020, but I don’t think I’ve seen proof that he was a part of the online bullying & harassment that people like Kodee Tyler (sp?) did to Adam in 2020….on Colleen’s behalf.
@@KittyScythe Adam wasn't even involved in the fandom yet in the years that Johnny claims to have bullied him.
Survivors get exhausted and embarrassed when we rehash trauma. There’s often a lot of shame. But Johnny got energized and excited the more attention he got. He was delighted to talk.
Not necessarily, depends on your own journey to healing and context I believe… What I mean is I do talks and conferences about my own PTSD in order to help, inspire others, spread awareness and open much needed discussions.
Therefore, its painful and exhausting to revive all these horrific traumas… but Im not embarrassed (worked hard for years to not be) and I get energized and « excited » because of my goal : helping everyone I possibly can.
BUT!!!! Not the same way as that dude 🤣
Its not delightful at all…. Thats for sure tho!! Stay strong!
I talked to survivers of the ukraine war, and they seemed to get "energized" while talking, but because they finally had someone to listen and wanted everyone to know about the war.
❤❤❤ sometimes it's a release to get it out of your head and when you hear it out loud and it doesn't hurt you as much as you feared, that can give you energy
I believe that Johnny had his own "intentions" reagarding Josh, and when Josh wasn't interested in him, Johnny decided to destroy this man.
Agreed!
I agree! I think he also just wanted to jump on the Colleen Ballinger train to get attention like Adam, Oliver and Becky. He also is trying to be an "influencer" and wanted views and likes. He gave me a bad feeling all along.
ONE THOUSAND PERCENT!!!! I got a very bitter/scorned-love-interest vibes, from the way he spoke about Josh and downright pissy about Josh's relationship with colleen... he was pushing so hard at relaying to ppl how Josh was being slyly "inappropriate" towards himself and the way Josh may or may not have thought of him... the, "well he didn't propose for NINE YEARS... he slipped me his number and was kinda like use this if you need it, wink-wink... OUR little COFFEE DATE... he reallyyy WANTED ME to come to his show..." was all very narrative driven... it was laid on super heavy in an attempt to push that idea, without out and out saying it... imo...
Yup. First tried to destroy him in 2016 when Johnny bullied and harassed Josh during Josh’s divorce to Colleen, and now he’s trying to do it again.
Nail on the head
I watched Swoop's whole video when it came out. I can't believe how calm and collected she can remain while Johnny continues to say things that are lies or just outrageous. Minimizing her own experiences, and downplaying things that her own fans have gone through. She is very protective over abuse victims, and his attitude towards them made her so upset. She did an amazing job, keeping him talking, while seething on the inside. She ripped him a new one in her video. I have no doubts whatsoever between Johnny and Josh, who the real monster is.
omg i know right. you could see how pissed she was at some points just by her face when he was talking. her eyes always said it all
That is what interviewers are always supposed to do. To let the person interviewed talk, whether it's good or bad, judgement belongs to audience who gets to know the story, not the interviewer. Their job is not to act like parents to people they interview telling good from bad or make it about themselves or their own opinions at all.
She put up with him for 6 whole hours😭 that’s a different level of “taking one for the team” hahaha
It's funny, I didn't necessarily notice it the first time around but when you go back knowing what we know now it's very noticeable that she is exasperated, frustrated, skeptical, etc.
@@MegJuniper I know right. I don’t hit people and I’ve never even spanked my kids but his face became more and more punchable through that documentary. Especially when he said things like that his experience was worse than being SA and when he was so reluctant to take down Trisha’s photos. Ugh…. I’ve always gotten a creepy vibe and when he accidentally said Boys, I thought bingo there it is.
I see something more sinister in his "I don't care if he's a victim.. we're not talking about that right now." I believe he is telling everyone he may have wronged: "Shut up. We're talking about the Ballingers."
It seems to me he doesn’t care about any victims at all, unless he himself wants to be a victim to garner sympathy and attention.
I took it as “shut up, we’re talking about ME”. Like, I don’t even think he believes Joshua should have come out about it earlier purely because I don’t think he believes or cares that Joshua was abused. He’s so resentful of Joshua that he very much sees this as HIS time and he doesn’t want Joshua getting any sympathy because that would take away from him
Actually now that I think of it, if Joshua HAD come out about abuse in the year or so after the divorce, I think Johnny would have taken the side that was looking more convincing. If colleen was getting more support he would have backed her and called Joshua out, but….I think he just as likely would have tried to platform himself off of Joshua’s pain. He would have been super vocal online, would have tied himself to Joshua, would have come forwards with loads of fake stories of things he witnessed to be a key source. Whatever could have happened, he would have hitched himself to whatever horse was looking like a winner and tried to build his fame off it
it’s like he wants to be "the perfect victim" if that makes sense? he lied, changed the narrative many time and even adapt the stories of some victims to his own so it can look like he had it worse than anyone.
@@theIaurenshow there is much more evidence for your take than mine; I may be over- extrapolating
Johnny* explaining how he thinks gr**ming for power is worse than for se*ual motives is awful enough, but the pointing and saying it to Swoop, when he knows that’s what she went through, just makes it 10x more disgusting. I hate watching that moment.
*Johnny
Johnny not Josh!
YES that broke me mid video, I had to pause and come back later. The way Swoop talked how that made her feel also made me tear up
Yeah, it's, like he's pointing her out personally saying " see, what your feeling isn't as important an to what I'm feeling " I still cnt believe someone, a husband and wife moulded their son into being this kind od toxic vile person.. swoop held her rage I. Amazingly.. if he had hv been infront of me I would've just attacked..go swoop , u did Amazing, nd thanks to the guy who broke John's personality.. super interesting
Johnny not Josh but I know what you meant (others might not)
One thing I just realized is how he says multiple times he went to “surprise” Josh. Is it just me or does that also seem extremely weird? I feel like when people say they’re going to “surprise” someone it’s a family member they haven’t seen in a while or someone they’re really close with like a partner. A fan going to surprise someone at their job… that sounds more like stalker behavior, and I’m really not sure why anyone would appreciate that or why he thought he was blessing Josh with his presence.
This!! It reminds me of the cringe birthday drama when he made his sister dm josh guilt tripping him to make a video, and all of the fan videos kissing his ass…. I feel like we’re seeing into the ego of a stalker irl it’s crazy!! He thinks he’s so special😂
@@Binstabih I forgot about that lmao 😭 that was insane too
Swoop’s poise is absolutely admirable. I don’t know how she managed to hold herself together when he made that ridiculous statement regarding his grooming being worse than hers. The narrowing in Swoop’s eyes is a whole video on it’s own.
He reminds me of Jodi Arias…
Not gonna lie, kinda wish Observe had also commented on Swoop. She did such a good job keeping her composure, I want to see if a body language expert could pick up discreet signs of anger or disbelief in her
@@IronWangCreatessame tbh. I hope he watches the full video to gain the context he was missing too. If this was a cartoon, she would have literally had smoke coming out of her ears.
@@IronWangCreateswhen I watched Swoop's video and saw her reaction to his bs, I was practically praying that he was gonna comment on her body language too when I saw that Observe covered this cause got damn!! She held her composure like the damn GOAT that she is!! Swoop is the realest, and deserves every bit of the recognition she's getting and I hope it helps spread her work far and wide so she can help more people.
What’s the time on the video for this?
When he says... "He fuc’d around and found out". Wooooof
Watching his response to the phone number for the fourth time I finally realize how shocking and disturbing it is that he’s focused on his own career. This is not a victim who was abused and is traumatized. This is a disgruntled employee, disenchanted fan, and heartbroken adult. He is upset that Josh didn’t give him attention but is somehow wanting to fit in the the folx who were legitimately groomed when he had the opposite goal.
Johnny was motivated to fabricate stories to make himself the Main Victim ™. Adam was and is the main victim as far as the internet and media is concerned, but Johnny started one-upping to try and make himself front and Center. To make himself the face of this current controversy. He wants to be The Victim, he wants to be the one that had it worse, he wants to have everyone talk about him.
Yes, I think it was a mixture of him being promised fame and getting attention both by josh which is why he targeted him.
I think that after dropping out of HS he was just holding on to the hope josh gave him without realizing that he will be having his own stuff to worry about. He is highly miffed that nothing worked out how he wanted it to so now he is trying to take control.
And his wordings such as 'he dumped me' 'coffee date' 'dinner with family' makes it seem like he became infatuated with josh too.
The amount of anger that Johnny holds for Josh, just because he doesn’t share the same feelings he does is REALLY scary.
The way Johnny characterizes certain things...
- They "encouraged" him to come to the show. Yes. Most creators would probably encourage fans to come to a show.
And the majority of fans would probably have a level head about it and take that statement at face value, and not expect
the PERFORMERS or anyone else close to the performers to pick up a fan.
- We had our coffee "date." A date? Did Josh know it was a date? I've hung out with friends 1 on 1 before and
would not call it a date. An interesting choice of words there.
I feel like either he genuinely did not understand where the parasocial relationship line with these people ended, AND/OR
he had a crush on Josh and was projecting a ton of shit onto that man. And when he finally realized, oh shit, Josh
doesn't like me that way...he lost it and has gone out of his way to slander him. "Well what did Josh do?"
Oh he had an ego...and he's not attractive, but is attractive, but has a bad personality. Mkay. I don't know
if you think you answered the question, John...but we weren't asking if he was attractive...
So many things he said in the Swoop interview are victim blame-y and disgusting. So, as butthurt as he is that
the interview painted him in a bad light...eh, he made himself look bad several times, and that would have been evident
even without Swoop's commentary.
Just as a note, the term "coffee date" is a commonly used phrase for folks getting coffee together. "Lunch date" and "dinner date" are variations of that. :)
It’s not a parasocial relationship because Johnny totally wasn’t just a fan he was “special”. /s
So CLEARLY it was grooming, it couldn’t possibly be that he misinterpreted their relationship and thought the parasocial relationship was actually real. 🙄
I love how he says Swoop made him feel safe and betrayed him… he’s basically admitting she made him feel comfortable enough to show his true face. And he’s trying to make it her fault, like she did it to him by not covering up the horrible things he said.
@@doodlydungeon8576this is true, but I still think it’s meaningful that Johnny chose those words. He used finger quotes as though implying Josh used those words and it meant something important and romantic. So it’s possible Josh used it casually and Johnny is trying to make it seem sinister.
@@annavictrixexactly! His response to swoop’s video just confirmed how egotistical and manipulative he is bc how dares she show the incriminating things that came out of his own mouth and portray him as anything other than a victim here after he TRUSTED her? Dude, you said those things! They are recorded! How the hell are you even trying to shift the blame towards swoop here for the despicable things YOU said and admitted to doing??? And how the hell do you wanna talk about trust when you yourself lied your ass off in that interview and is now pissed you got caught?
Like, even now he is trying to deflect completely from his lies and the horrible things he did in this, or maybe he really is uncapable of realizing just how twisted his antics are. I really wonder if he, at any point, said to himself “I shouldn’t be doing this” or “this is wrong”, or if he really believes he was in the right all along…
Idk man, people like this guys scare the shit outta me. They will just use people without any remorse and lying is just like breathing to them. And if you DARE to expose them and call them out, they get PISSED and wont rest until they have completely destroyed you. It’s terrifying
Everything he said made me angry but nothing made me more furious than when he said “I don’t care that he’s a victim, we aren’t talking about that story anymore” I hope he fails, I hope his life is full of minor inconveniences and he never feels fulfilled.
May he stub his toe and hit his shin on the coffee table every morning.
Someone can inform me if I am wrong but I do find it interesting that Johnny tells the story of Josh and Colleen leaving "little Johnny" stranded at LAX (while continueing with the show). Perhaps maybe Johnny wanted to draw a comparison with Adam's telling of the time he went to meet Colleen when he was young for a meal next to the hotel (can't remeber the exact specific detail) but he phrased it that he was stranded alone by Colleen after she invited him. Did not click at first when I watched swoops video because it was a lot of information at the time. Maybe someone else have notice it already...
omg i didn’t even think about this. you’re so right
What he needs to remember is that people aren’t inclined to feel bad for an 18 year old looking for a lift to a show he invited himself to. He tried to make it out that he was 17 at the time to make it sound worse but even then there was no formal invitation meaning the responsibility of getting to the show was his own, I don’t really see how josh or Colleen have any responsibility in this situation. The comparison to adams story was a transparent tactic which backfired because he didn’t count on any doubting his blatant lies
yep, the difference is that adam showed an entire string of messages between him and colleen proving that she actually did strand him. plus he was actually underage at the time, unlike johnny who lied about being underage
yeah I noticed. The more I think about the things he told swoop the more I feel like he was "copying" Adam's story. The whole "yeah but what happened to me is even worse" "Little Johnny" "MY interview was 6 hours long" plus the similarities between the two just made me really doubt his story, I really tried to pull it aside cause i wanted to believe him but yeah idk about that
@@TweeTea. “there was some loophole that I could end up renting a car” lol you mean the fact that you were 18 and could legally do that?
That Johnnys “left at LAX” story is Adams left in Dublin by himself without parents as a child by Colleen. Where she absolutely said she was meeting him….
I remember stumbling on a quote in an article on the intentions of politicians which went something like: "If you want to know what someone is really like, put them on a stage and let them talk." It's quite ironic that this six hour long interview, which Johnny thought would be his entranceway to fame, was ultimately the thing that would unravel his construct of lies, half truths and leeching. Kudos to Swoop and her team for all their research, effort and bravery
fr like why didn’t he just keep his mouth shut. the internet rips every and any story apart. did he not think people would dig into this? it’s so easily refuted
He thought swoop not having a strong reaction meant he was saying the ‘right’ things to build up a positive narrative around himself. It shows how professional swoop is giving him leading questions and bringing back questions he danced around but let him say awful stuff with no very obvious reaction (especially if you haven’t watched a lot of swoop to know what her behaviors are) and so he said even more terrible stuff to her, not realizing he was digging his own grave the whole time
"...if anything, I want boys. Well, MEN."
Deadpan stare at the camera. "Gonna go ahead and pause that right there."
You don't say, Logan. You don't say... 😂
So , all im getting from this is that Johnny REAAALLYY wants to be famous
Facts where said here!
In ANY way possible
Not only that. Johnny is selfish and is ready to "kill" if that will get him fame. Look at him
Accusing and fabricating evidence of "grooming"
Taking victims story and copy them [he completely copied Adam's, Oliver's story]
Then he also came to know of stories to abuse and spice out to fact-check his story .. despite the people telling him not to do that multiple times.
Hahahah be careful what you wish for Johnny boy 😂
Pretty pathetic on his part!
Any adults in this whole Colleen situation who were actively talking to and in group chats with minors are f ing weird
Truly! Adult humans really have no reason to have personal relationships with children. That is, unless they're family or teachers, and even then you have to keep a safe distance
@@BKNYC89Absolutely. I used to teach drumming and my students wanted to ad me on snap. Hell no! I ended up having one play with me in a band years later, when she was 20. Then I was more comfortable with it. She calls me momma drum now lol.
@@BKNYC89 yup, there's a huge difference between say a teacher/coach forming relationships between their students/players to better be able to know where they come from/ instruct better vs someone in that position forming a close relationship in order to better groom them. As you said you need to keep a safe distance and maintain a professional relationship. nevermind the whole parasocial aspect/ idol worship.
Any adults who like Colleen are weird, period.
PLEEEEEASE hear me out before thinking I'm weird!! Lol 😂 Honestly, as a mom, I was kinda having a hard time wrapping my head around why it was so wrong to be in a group as an adult with kids, when her audience was kids and families. This is where I went into this whole mess thinking. Turns out I am naive and stupid. I'm thinking originally that being in these groups with them was talking about her character (i didn't even know who she was till this... Then I found what an absolute s&$# person her character is and it makes my blood boil out of my ears!!!) Being a grown up to keep the kids safe in this group, watching what people are saying, being a role model, fostering a safe family atmosphere where families can all share their love of this character, (or should I say perv). WOW!!! I am glad I am so strict about what my kids can and can't do on the Internet . They can only do school and I am constantly watching them. They get upset cause they think I am too strict. Buuuut it's so easy for kids to get sucked into crap like slender man and all that sick sh$#!!! I'm so freaking angry at Colleen, a MOTHER!!!! A sister, an aunt what the hell is wrong with her!!!!! She's disgusting!! Seriously, I could go on for forever as a mom about the disgusting, illegal, sheer unbelievableablity of this woman!!!! 😡😤
I think watching body language experts such as yourself has hugely helped because when I first saw his interview with Swoop, I just felt an overwhelming sense that there was strong deception in it. He came off almost smug and gossipy about it all than a genuine victim who cared to share their experience to help others like the others were.
you don't need a pseudoscience "expert" to tell you when someone is smug and gossipy, you probably were just intuitive enough to pick that up by yourself
@@jules8273 Intuition definitely plays a part but I see body language deciphering more as an art form than "pseudoscience". It certainly puts what we see into a framework and perspective. It doesn't claim to be an exact science.
Anyway, I find it helpful in my business.
You probably felt weird because real victims don’t WANT to tell their story but know they must for the safety of others, and they get exhausted talking it. But Johnny wanted to talk, he was delighted to talk, he was energized the more nasty and spiteful he got to be.
@@annavictrix I think you've hit the nail on the head!
You know a lot by dealing with people irl but yea. People give lots of signs in their body but also their choice of words. Sadly, a lot of people have no clue how to analyze or use critical thinking ..but it is very easy to see his lies if you know. You just didn’t learn to think for yourself and many others are the same. Emotional judgmental support is scary
If swoop send you over the full 6-hour interview, I would absolutely love to watch every single hour of you reacting to that interview!!!! ❤
Same!!!! I would love to see if it offered any additional observations or how it would differ from this original observation.
Yes I second this!
I’ve got the time. Let’s go!
Same.
That would not be professional of Swoop. There was likely a ton of footage that got left on the cutting room floor.
You absolutely read this man TO FILTH. We love to see it!
He told on himself quite a lot
And reading is what??? FUNDAMENTAL!
Swoop hidden disgust and Logan’s pulsing neck.. are exactly how we all feel about Johnny. Body language is showing what we all feel.
Please make more !!
The craziest quote "HE FUCKED AROUND AND FOUND OUT" MY JAW LITERALLY DROPPED! THANK YOU FOR THE CORRECTING ME
You quoted incorrectly.
@@ReviewsAndMore9 Thank you
Johnny thought he was more important in their lives than he actually was. Josh was being nice and cordial to a fan and Johnny took it to a different level.
Johnny is absolutely delusional and deplorable. And the Freudian slip “boys well men” solidified everything I already suspected. The fact he believes grooming for power v SA of children is worse or even compared them disgusting and lead me to believe he might even have colluded w Tim to groom for s purposes w minors.
It's even more revealing that he says the power thing if you think about it, because grooming with intent to SA is ALSO about power. He neglects to understand the basic foundation of what he is talking about. It's all about power, power over a small, vulnerable victim. He weirdly enough doesn't subconsciously see the victims of SA-grooming as vulnerable victims of a powerful adult... Seems to me that he is pretty darn callous about that sort of experience. I wonder why...
I just hope that Johnny hasn’t made it more difficult for the actual victims. He always gave the “ok but what about me” vibes in the interviews which made me side eye a lot. Pretending to be a victims and piggybacking off of the real victims is just unbelievably gross and I don’t think he will be able to salvage his reputation after this. It’s genuinely disgusting
I have to wonder if his story about what the vibe was backstage after the becky thing was actually just him trying to insert himself into her story so he could keep speaking over her and oliver.
He always focused attention on him when other tried to speak 😢
Fun (read: not fun) story! I was almost exploited as a young adult by a guy a decade older than me. I was able to dodge the bullet before anything sexual happened, but I knew of others who didn't who to this day wish to keep quiet. It's been a decade since then, and he is still actively around young adults (age gap now being 20) and unfortunately, my own story is filed as "dubious but not malicious." Those unspoken stories would quickly change that perception but it would also mean revictimizing the people he has hurt by sharing their experiences without their consent. It's been difficult to keep silent while constantly worrying that doing so could implicitly help my abuser manipulate someone again, but I don't want to be yet another person who hurts his victims.
Soooo, yeah. Having Johnny co-opting people's stories because "ThEy ArE pArT Of mY sToRy nOw!!" put me through a spiral for a bit.
I just want to say how Swoop is finally getting the recognition for being an amazing investigator and story teller. She is so kind and respectful but very straightforward and will not take shit. 👑
Not respectful enough to blur children’s faces
The fact that he couldn't answer a very simple and finite question as 'How many times did you meet with Joshua in person' and had to talk circles around it with 'He kept saying come to my show!'. It's one thing if a friend says 'Stop by and visit if you're out here' compared to giving you physical tickets and dates, talking to you about arranging times to meet, discussing places to go etc. I don't know Joshua but I'm pretty sure if any of us randomly wrote 'Oh I'm tempted to go to your show ' he'd tell us the same thing he told Johnny. He's a performer, of course he wants you to go so he sells more tickets and gets more eyes on his art. He's not straight up giving him tickets, which is kind of the vibe Johnny was trying to make it seem like.
The self-reports are staggeringly abhorrent
He then decided to double-down & accuse Swoop of taking advantage of him and twisting his trauma to fit her narrative
Colleen & Johnny were made for one another... may they both face justice & receive their much deserved comeuppance
even though John was the one who first exposed that Colleen was sending Trisha's nudes to minors, I still couldn't help but get an off feeling about him... and now I know why 🤢
I thought Adam was first? I’m so confused about this whole mess. What a shit show 😅
That deadness behind the eyes and lack of real emotion behind the stories he’s sharing is disturbing 💀
@@amethyst0neikr like there’s no light in those eyes but especially in this interview it creeped me out
Me too, because he didn't have the decency to tell Trisha everything before posting them and covering her up properly. It felt like he wanted to make fun of her and humiliate her once more.
I was weirded out from him publishing the nudes. Like who in their right mind publishes someone else's nudes to the world, and I know he tried to technically "cover" a bit, but b*tch, a bit isn't enough! Black out the whole pic except her face, she knows what pics she's released!
What Colleen was doing was nasty enough sharing it with a group, especially the kids, but he literally did by releasing them was way worse. If the witch is being rightfully crucified for sending the pics to potential children, then him putting it on social media, exposes a lot more kids to something they shouldn't be seeing. He didn't stop for a nanosecond to consider that he would be revictimising Trisha or other women who have been through similar... that was disgusting on a whole other level!
To me Johnny seems like a guy that a had very big crush on this older influencer that he got a bit of interaction with. And when that crush or at least interest wasn't reciprocated he got bitter and obsessive and it just boiled more and more. It also seems like he was a bit delusional in the 'closeness' of their relationship.
A bit delusional? It was actually ALOT delusional 😂
This Johnny is mega delulu
Or maybe even willfully delulu
I suffered limmerence whenI was in elementary school. It does seem like it went that route, kinda, there's obviously more to it lmfao. But like, this dude was attached to Josh lol. Depends on the person but sometimes some people will have extreme rejection dysphoria, but whatever snaps you out of it, it crushes their fantasy, their "safe" person/space (your persception of the person, even if it's made up. basically rose coloured glasses). So when that image is crushed they either get anxious, depressed, or uncomfortable. Some get very bitter. Some may even start to harass the person and try to take them down.
I’ve had that too and it never got anywhere near this level but even then the way my mind got so deluded about the other person was terrifying and I absolutely think that’s what happened here, the way he randomly ranted about how silly it would be for Josh to think he’d find him attractive when nobody asked, it was very telling imo
@@ad_kk16that’s totally what happened when he tried to come out to Joshua and instead Joshua reimposed boundaries. Johnny thought they had a way different interpersonal relationship than they did. It would be like disclosing something super personal to your boss at work, like “woah I am not who you should be talking to about this, this is not any of my business”
Duuude he's such a Narcissist! I love how you noticed that when he doesn't get the expected reactions or engagement he starts to backtrack and soften the things he's about to say, so shady-
Swoop threw down the gauntlet when she invited Observe and the Body Language Panel to analyze Johnny's microexpressions, and Observe has answered the challenge with alacrity!
Congratulations Johnny… you got the attention you wanted.. just not in the way you wanted it. xD
body analysis of folks who are being genuine, or holding back in the face of cruddy people. I can't help but to notice how much tension SWOOP is holding while interviewing Johnny compared to her interview with Adam McIntyre. I know it's pretty popular to catch folks who are in the wrong and analyze their body language but I wonder if we can focus too on body language that might indicate wholesomeness, honesty, empathy, etc.
This!! I just want his thoughts on the pure rage in her eyes as Johnny talks. She is a warrior for being able to complete that call.
Swoop was so patient but you could tell after a certain point that she was just so done and so exhausted
As a survivor of grooming and csa, it blows my mind why anyone would want to make up stories about these things. I would give everything to erase those events and all consequent issues from my life, to not carry this burden everyday is my fantasy. Johnny is a dangerous groomer and predator. That part at 36:00 from Johnny is just devastating to hear as a survivor, he single-handedly minimized all groomed and se*ually abused children because the grooming done to Johnny in his opinion was far, far worse (really...?). Narcissistic person larping as a victim of 'grooming'. Swoop is an absolute angel, I admire her composure during this interview.
I think a really big moment that shows Johnny's blatant lying, is how he accidentally said his parents were there. When swoop repeated that back to him he mumbled really oddly, it kinda sounded fed up or angry, like he was mad he messed up and said his parents were there
I noticed that too. When he was talking about that on other platforms I remember him specifying that josh and him had “a moment”, didn’t mention his parents being right there, and heavily implied josh manufactured an intimate moment between them
He was so sly thinking he gotten away with everything which he has until swoop so bravely did this interview and he couldn’t even keep up with his lies, him and Colleen are more in common did anyone else in this situation, also in the Hi video that he copied off of Adam, has anyone notice he literally wrote a song talking about how Colleen was grooming minors while Adam just decided to call Colleen out and at some parts get really serious and he didn’t even sing most parts because what Colleen did to him was serious while John decided to sing about something that he wasn’t even a victim while doing what Colleen did at the same time
Wait…so what you’re saying is that there is a toxic gossip train part 2? 😂 lstg what is with crap people and writing songs
@@Bubaiel they think they're being cute and quirky and funny when, in reality, they're an eye (and ear) sore 😒 blegh.
I mean with the context we know now it basically is
Lyrics:
“Colleen girl your insane”
“Grooming teens and children, its manipulation”
“Colleen your lost your brain”
“Girl boss in the daytime chatting weenies in the evening”
“Colleen girl your iNsAaNeeeeeeeee”
“Claiming all these kids made up lies, your fearing ultimate demise”
“I hope you’re sitting with these feelings”
John: you brought on to innocent children for the last decade
(Pause)
John: Acually I’m not done
“Sometimes people make mistakes, and then they deflect which doesn’t excuse said mistakes”
“But if your not a peace of crap person”
“You should just apologize?
John: But what do I know?
John: fUk mEh riTe
This aged very poorly, and the fact that if you replace everytime Colleen’s name was mention and exclude the name weenies, it would still make since which is just groundbreaking
I still remember watching it the day it came out. Someone in the comments planned to sing this in their head all the time over the one Collen did, and Johnny was like "YEEAAHHHH" 🙄
That section about Colleen and Josh's marriage from John's POV makes me sick. It's as though he had every opportunity to get out of the hole he dug himself but no he fucked around and found out he has an incredibly toxic mindset.
In all seriousness, the more that segment goes on the worse it gets and that section for me personally (alongside the Trisha section) really revealed what kind of person he is. Complete disregard for other people except for himself and his "morally righteous high horse". What a pitifully bruised ego, gosh.
"Whoopsie poopsie" is the most profound quote 😂❤
That grunt Johnny did when describing how Colleen would bring Adam back into the chat after they would kick him out made it seem to me like Johnny was jealous of Adam’s friendship with Colleen.
That's my thought too. He was seething with jealousy.
I bet Colleen loved this tbh with the Johnny lying situation as now the spotlights not shinning on her for her horrible things she did.
They’re both disturbing 😑
She asks him "How many times you (Johnny) estimate in person, you hung out with Josh ?!?"
This first simple question Johnny could not answer, so what does he do ?!? He deflect to answer and said that answer instead.
My answer is zero. Johnny never hung out with Josh. He met him couple of times (attending Josh shows) .. in public. In the beginning when Johnny worked with Colleen in theaters. Josh always distant from Johnny. Josh always kept him at arms length. When Josh started to do UA-cam, a couple of times you see Johnny next to him.
Conclusion : Johnny was in awe of Josh, maybe in love. But Josh never adressed him as friend, never lead Johnny on, never spoke to Johnny his personal life. Josh mostly ignored Johnny.
Josh was haunted before he wedded Colleen, even when he started as a boyfriend to Colleen. She always instigated gaslighted bullied Josh through her fans. 😢 He was always put in a corner bullied his entire relationship and after the divorce, still to this day Josh is bullied.
Johnny is not a pathological liar. He lies a lot for attention, clout and greedy for money. Kinda a Munchhausen proxy maybe. Using other peoples pain as his for compassion so you feel sorry for him.
Oh by the way, Johnny can go to jail officially and get boyfriends there. He bought behind paywall of OF of Tricia. Copying the pics and send them to Colleen. Colleen can go to prison as well. They both were distributing her pics on without Tricia consent. On the so young aged fans social media and party nights viewing with the influencers, both of them.
I want to see an Observe/Swoop collaboration. I love them both so much!
The “boys… oops! MEN!” thing is the creepiest Freudian slip I’ve heard in a loooong time. 😳🤮
It’s interesting to see Swoop’s expressions during this interview in comparison to her other interviews. At one point she looked triggered and upset, but was trying to pull it back. Power to her, as I would have struggled to remain professional.
It was wild to me that Johnny didn’t notice. I realized he’s not familiar with Swoop or her videos, and he’s not capable of seeing beyond the end of this own nose.
Swoop is very open about being a survivor of grooming that ended in SA, as it seems to be her driving force behind making documentaries that give victims a voice. So him implying that getting attention and a phone number from someone he looked up to was WORSE, is downright narcissistic. And I mean actual SICK levels of narcissistic.
I was so hoping we'd get your take on this one! You and Swoop are amazing
Seeing all these clips of the interview together really shows how swoop was pulling teeth trying to get information out of him.
Thank you for doing this! I think it will give Swoop the confidence to feel he was absolutely not a victim. It’s hard to not sympathize with people when you’re a victim yourself.
I love how Swoop said that she'll leave the body language to Observe and The Behavioral Panel. And, Observe was like "👀👀👀you called"?? Lol
Congratulations Johnny, you ultimately got what you wanted so badly, all the attention in the world, all eyes on you now 👀👀👀
" He was getting access to this group by going under his parents nose" That is such a strange sentence to me and it doesn't really make any sense. There are so many instances like this where he throws in these random things that don't really seem relevant
Random slandering is very narcissistic lol they want to set the vibes where the “lower” people are submissive, it makes them happy 🤷♀️ he keeps telling on himself
You’re right! It’s Fucking victim blaming, I think he’s showing a disdain for Adam for getting closer with Colleen, but also he’s implying it’s Adam’s fault he got groomed, because if he hadn’t gone under his parents noses it wouldn’t have happened
YAAAASS so happy to see SWOOP finally get the recognition she deserves. She speaks my petty language and gives me the vocabulary I need to fully comprehend manipulation in all its sketchy forms ❤❤❤
I’m not saying Johnny is a dangerous person, but the last time I saw someone in an interview waffling on about tangents and giving unnecessary information, it was Jodi Arias. She did the exact same thing in her police interview. It’s such a strange behaviour. Actually, Amber Heard tried to do the same thing under cross examination.
It’s a very particular thing to do- non answer answers to very direct yes/no questions or questions which are asking for a specific answer. Like when Swoop asks him how many times he hung out with Josh one-on-one and he talks about Josh’s ego. It’s an easy question- did you hang out one time, ten times, more than 3 but less than 5?
Johnny self snitches so many times. Also, his super fandom started on Twitter. He became obsessed with Colleen because of fan accounts on Twitter. He wasn’t watching her on UA-cam first and discovered her twitter account and was following with other fans, it was the other way around. And he joined the fandom to make friends while hiding his full identity. He didn’t get into this Colleen subculture because he enjoyed her content. It’s really weird.
Johnny absolutely IS a dangerous person when you consider how serious gr00ming allegations are and how difficult it is to move away from them even when you're proven innocent.
@@khfan4ever9she has zero proof he ever laid a hand on her and op is right, she DID do that in cross examination. You got a lot to say without having actually watched the case bro
@@veethedarlinghe wanted to ruuuin Josh forever just like Colleen 🤢
@@khfan4ever9 it's not disparaging her if she actually did that under cross examination, though, which she did. OP didn't mention anything else about AH aside from how she answered questions which is visibly provable. also.... johnny silvestri isn't a female victim, so that correlation doesn't work here.
@@khfan4ever9 this is super serious nonsense you’re saying, mutual abuse is not real and i despise you saying it. You’re weird bro
The level of composure swoop had when he said "he fucked around and found out" is goddess level.
I think why observe has such a difficult time pinging Johnny is because Johnny genuinely believes he's in the right, a victim, and that his misinterpretation of grooming is accurate. What swoop managed to do was get him to sort of unravel in those 6 hours to where he just continued to tack on instances that clarified he was not actually a victim like his peers, but a perpetrator whos actions were simply encouraged by Colleen and Co.
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Johnny's Queefing story is exactly like Adam's experience with Collen. Young Adam got really embarrassed/concerned that his parents heard Colleen say "I forgot your lingerie" when they were greeting each other. It is so sick for someone to use victims as weapons, while also trying to make them belive what they went through isn't as big of a deal as what you claim you went through.
Good catch!!
Your channel is one of my faves. You don't parrot gossip, you use facts to inform. Thanks for your great work!
"didn't know him on any level personally" that's all I needed to hear
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I used to know a boy in high school who looks just like Johnny. I don't know if anybody else can relate but I've seen several people in my life who look similarly to other people I Used to Know and act similarly. It's alittle creepy.
I can relate a lot to this
100% creep
Look into face reading! It’s WILD it’s something we do naturally at times I assume as protection. But it’s an interesting study.
Sounds like it's most important for him to maintain his position in the narcissists club and everything else is irrelevant. And he maintains that position by fawning on everyone above him and abusing everyone he perceives as below him
You did a great job. I was hoping you’d talk about the gulp at 34:35 and just the overall body language when she asked a second time. I think it’s very off the charts.
Great analysis! This man John is absolutely pathetic, attention thirsty, manipulative, and outright dangerous. Swoop did the lord’s work with this one, and as soon as she mentioned Observe, I knew you’d come in clutch with the lay-up!
I have a lot of trauma, my childhood was not good at all, and from the way Johnny talks about trauma, its very clear hes been blessed enough not to have any trauma. A ball of duct tape is not trauma. I cant believe he looked Swoop in the eyes and said what he said
I think Johnny's main issue with Josh is when he came out to Josh & Josh's response was something along the lines of " Well, that really doesn't involve me"..or something like that & Johnny took it as a rejection. I think Johnny had/has a thing for Josh & since it wasn't resiprocated he became bitter & still is til this day. Josh has,from what i have seen, apologized to Johnny 4 times for things he supposedly did and all Johnny has done is go after Josh more, like apologizing 4 times isn't enough. Then again if Johnny accepts Josh's apology Johnny doesn't get to play Josh's victim anymore.
He said 'that is none of my business' and he is absolutely correct..josh is someone johnny knows but is but close with atleast acc. to josh ...imo his reaction makes sense like why are you telling me about this we are not close
I might be confused by the clips but... Talking about the second time they were 'alone' - Me and my family surprised him!... I wonder how manipulated Johnnys parents really are in his delusions. 🙈
“One time he was really inappropriate was when we were alone together in a bathroom stall after I shimmied under the door to surprise him”
@@IronWangCreates OMG!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@IronWangCreates You are hilarious, I'm stil laughing.... 🙈🤣
Or which of his parents is the delusional one that fostered his own delusions
This is why we should never just arbitrarily believe every single thing when someone makes an accusation against someone else. This is why proof is vital.
Omg the crossover we all need, swoop & observe 😍
I hope you are going to cover more of this drama. She had mentioned your name in the 4-hour video, and I was so excited. Hopefully, Swoop can give you the 6-hour interview that Johnny felt extra special because he was doing a long interview.
Not going to happen. Swoop is a professional.
I was super excited when Swoop mentioned your channel and I was hoping to see your input!
Can we all take a moment to look at swoops reaction when Johnny shares that power is worse then SA?? Just the anger and hurt she is feeling.. you can see her take a super deep breath and purse her lips…
she's amazing for being able to hold it together in that moment, if someone said that to me I would flip out
You can see her discreetly look away from him, she looks up above the screen to compose herself
He is enthusiastic, keeps smirking and when asked about proof he smiles like ‘drama incoming 💅🏼’, not how a victim would behave at all.
As Xylie said in her SWOOP reaction stream “SWOOP is classy pissed, I’m trashy pissed”
Tbh, Jhonny is like that one person trying to be part of the popular group at high school, not caring who he will take down or hurt in the process. The sad thing is that a lot of the thing he did were when he was an adult.
Has anyone read Johnny’s statement about this? It’s a good laugh. He called it character assassination. Lol no dude you hung yourself with your words. She just showed it.
One has to first have character in order for it to get murdered.
I absolutely love when I see Observe post a new video! Thanks Logan!
Also, we love us some Swoop!
Every time I hear someone blame a victim of A, of any kind, my rage gauge totally implodes. It’s always the same question they as, “Well, why did you stay with a person like that?! You must’ve wanted something…”Yeah!!! They wanted LOVE AND PARTNERSHIP! 😡😞
I didn’t realise until watching the interview again on here, but I’m pretty convinced that Johnny was implying that Joshua deserves the abuse because Johnny thinks he was staying for Colleens fame and money.
He already made comments about Colleen being in her prime and making money, and that he was confused why Joshua wouldn’t marry her because of that.
I think it says a lot, because he thinks Joshua should have proposed to Colleen because of her fame and money, and he also assumes Joshua stayed in an abusive relationships for those reasons.
Because that’s why Johnny was there. He wasn’t trying to befriend Joshua because he liked him, it’s because he wanted to use him for his fame and connection to Colleen.
when swoop mentioned you in the video i got so excited! 😅 love a good crossover, you guys need to collab some day!
I commented on Swoops video that Johnny seems like a besotted little child with a crush when it comes to Josh... as soon as it became clear he wasnt going to get what he wanted, he jumped ship to whomever he thought could get him into the limelight, hence why hes comparing himself to Adam and claiming he's been groomed. I came away with Johnny being a narcissist with hurt feelings who just wanted to matter to anyone because he can't seem to matter to himself.
Its so obviously problematic and he is still soooo obsessed with Josh… it literally reminds me of Mr. Incredible and Buddy/Syndrome and the whole “I’m your biggest fan” villain origin story.
I am just a bit shocked at the fact that he doesn’t seem to be aware of all the AWFUL things he says. It is like if he thought he said all the right things when it is obvious from the outside that he is a horrible human being just by the things he says…
The second hand embarrassment is strong with this one😂
21:03 if "hanging out" meant only see each other in public (in many cases with Johnny's parents present), then, imo, Joshua is really bad at grooming. Johnny sounds like a scourned obsessed fan, and actually thinks Joshua was his close friend. He is big time delusional, imo ... and a danger to Joshua.
When Swoop said "I'll leave the body language analysis to Observe & the others to decode..." I went "Aaayyyy!!" And now you're doing it!
Thank you so much for making this video! Not just for highlighting what type of person Johnny is, but also for giving Swoop the recognition she deserves, as well as giving Adam and other victims a better chance to speak freely. Adam stated in his video about this how he was fully prepared to not speak out on Johnny and the hurt he has caused, because up intill Swoop's latest video, people knew him as a victim. Like... The more you think about that...
My first red flag on Johnathan was that he made a video saying ppl were asking him to respond to something yet no one with a platform had even mentioned him. 2nd flag was how eager he was to attack Josh when no one else had mentioned any of the things he did. If he was "worse" than Colleen, I seriously expected many to come forward but no one did. 3rd, how many times he overtook interviews with him being a victim and the focus always on him but never specifying details. I never expected it to go this deep though.
The H3 chat with Becky, Oliver and John was hard to watch because of it!!
Another great video Logan. It’s good to be able to go through the nonverbal with you after watching something because usually it validates some feelings I had watching, but sometimes challenges and informs me if I missed or was confused by something. Thanks for your insight!
Absolutely! He is living in a dream world! Love your shirt btw. He is crazy angry about Josh. The saying goes "Hell hath no fury than a woman scorned", and then there was Johnny Silvestri, he is like an angry jilted lover! You would think Swoop's facial expressions would have tipped him off that he was treading a dangerous path, but in the same breath Swoop did a stellar job of not really showing what she felt, although if you'd watched Swoops other videos you would have an idea that you had crossed into perilous grounds.
Always love your breakdowns!!! They’re so thorough that I can simply listen while cleaning the house and running errands while still completely following what you’re saying/what’s on the screen. Amazing work as always!