Haas just seems like a really toxic place to work. Luckily KMag and Hulk are extremely hard headed dudes so they can take it. But Haas is a horrible team for any rookie. "We hired you to save money, so don't ever break the car, but also get points in this absolute donkey so push hard". It was awful for a rookie.
Current Standings: Total Average Max Verstappen 55 9,17 Sergio Perez 47 7,83 Charles Leclerc 38 6,33 Carlos Sainz 36 6,00 George Russell 49 8,17 Lewis Hamilton 45 7,50 Esteban Ocon 29 4,83 Pierre Gasly 37 6,17 Lando Norris 34 5,67 Oscar Piastri 32 5,33 Zhou Guanyu 35 5,83 Valtteri Bottas 28 4,67 Fernando Alonso 53 8,83 Lance Stroll 42 7,00 Kevin Magnussen 26 4,33 Nico Hulkenberg 35 5,83 Yuki Tsunoda 43 7,17 Nyck de Vries 24 4,00 Alex Albon 34 5,67 Logan Sargeant 30 5,00 Total Average Red Bull 102 8,50 Ferrari 74 6,17 Mercedes 94 7,83 Alpine 66 5,50 Mclaren 66 5,50 Alfa Romeo 63 5,25 Aston Martin 95 7,92 Haas 61 5,08 AlphaTauri 67 5,58 Williams 64 5,33 Ordered: Total Average Max Verstappen 55 9,17 Fernando Alonso 53 8,83 George Russell 49 8,17 Sergio Perez 47 7,83 Lewis Hamilton 45 7,50 Yuki Tsunoda 43 7,17 Lance Stroll 42 7,00 Charles Leclerc 38 6,33 Pierre Gasly 37 6,17 Carlos Sainz 36 6,00 Zhou Guanyu 35 5,83 Nico Hulkenberg 35 5,83 Lando Norris 34 5,67 Alex Albon 34 5,67 Oscar Piastri 32 5,33 Logan Sargeant 30 5,00 Esteban Ocon 29 4,83 Valtteri Bottas 28 4,67 Kevin Magnussen 26 4,33 Nyck de Vries 24 4,00 Total Average Red Bull 102 8,50 Aston Martin 95 7,92 Mercedes 94 7,83 Ferrari 74 6,17 AlphaTauri 67 5,58 Alpine 66 5,50 Mclaren 66 5,50 Williams 64 5,33 Alfa Romeo 63 5,25 Haas 61 5,08
These are amazing. Thank you. Can you keep this going all season? Also, would it be possible to see them in order based on their rating points? Also it’s two “l”s in Russell. Not Russel.
The only car that should be getting that is the Red Bull and I'm glad Max isn't just getting "he qualified first by half a second, fell asleep during the race, won because he's in a space shuttle, 10/10"
Let's face it: Max has realized that the combination of his own quality and that of the car is so much better than all the competitors, that he does not have to worry about being first in the first corner. Better be a bit more conservative and avoid damage to the car. After the race has settled, he can just pass everyone and finish first. Look how he passed Hamilton. It looked like Hamilton was in an F2 car. A single sector later he was 2 seconds ahead.
Exactly. He said so after the race that he didn't want to risk damaging the car in a battle with two cars who had basically nothing to lose vs him. It's good to see him mature enough to pick his fights as compared to his earlier years. That rocketship of a car helps as well.
@@powerboy247 He hasn't really matured, he just now has the fastest car so he's acting accordingly. Shit will hit the fan once more when Aston and Merc catch up.
@@bonifacelukosi9580I completely disagree. listening to his radio messages during races (the ones they don't broadcast) this year compared to as recent as 21 he has changed his demeanor completely. They just never broadcast all the messages. Like when he instantly accepted the lack of investigation on hamilton's' pass, instead of minging about it like he would have before. They only broadcast his moments of angst. Same for most drivers.
I was gassing Nyck up before the season started but if he doesn't get it together I can't see him getting another season. We might see Tsunoda and Iwasa paired up for 2024.
@@ferrari0323 Alpha Tauri is not really the team for veteran drivers like Danny. And would he even be interested in driving in the depths of the midfield?
I feel like I watched a different race. Nice that lando got points but really, was that a 9 worthy performance? If half the field hadn't crashed I think he'd have been a healthy 7 at best.
You could say that about a lot of drivers though. He took advantage of the situation and used it to secure a good points finish. Not to mention he was matching checo in pace for a few laps, which, when comparing the cars they drive, is pretty damn impressive.
He matched checo’s pace , who is ina redbull and he couldn’t get near norris for about 15 laps , i would say its damn near impressive to match red bull’s speed in that shitbox of a mcleran
4 and 5 for Pérez are just your personal degrees on analysis. Not flying through the field? Do you know about DRS chained cars? He was forced to pass on the outside which he brilliantly did... Yes, the car is over the top, but the tyres are the same for everyone and with worn tires becomes more difficult to pass anybody. Perez kept pushing, he owned the fast lap, so... whithout proclaiming him the best pilot ever, a 7 or minimum 6 note would be reasonable and fair.
Yuki is doing an amazing job this year! He's finally showing his strengths on the track, possibly because he is more fit this year? Idk why. But great to see him doing well
I 100% believe that his new trainer is the key. Yuki is looking downright vascular this year. The guy has put on a LOT of muscle, an impressive amount and that's coming from a powerlifter. You simply do not put on as much muscle as he has without incredible discipline and fortitude and that's what he lacked on track. Last year his pace began to match Gasly, this year he's gained consistency and discipline.
@@inspiredglue2056 If this continues i could see another season in the AT as a clear priority driver #1 with Iwasa at his side (2 japanese drivers in a Honda... it's a marketing delight but would also help Iwasa assimilate into the team really well) and if he proves consistent then replace Perez for '25. Perez is quite frankly too consistent to replace right now, unless they could convince a Leclerc or Norris to come over but by all accounts they're a bit too scared of being dominated by Max in a team he basically owns at this point to do so, and career wise that's a sensible choice. Yuki is a very strong pick for a replacement though and who knows, if Perez doesn't deliver in a few key races before the mid year, we may see Yuki promoted sooner rather than later.
I think I would give tsunoda a 9 based on his restart. His replay showed him do about 4 overtakes and went from p13 to p5 in less than one sector. I hope he shows more of that when it actually counts 😂
Reminds me of his F2 days, which Iwasa is emulating or even exceeding currently. Mark my words, next year its Tsunoda and Iwasa in the Honda powered AT. Marketing genius but also a solid pairing, and the presence of Tsunoda will help Iwasa integrate a LOT more smoothly than he did.
Rating on Perez is quite harsh, it wasn’t that he couldn’t catch Norris. They were holding the gap strategically because it’ll be much easier to pass him at the end of the race. Also quite funny Russell getting a 10 for just having a good launch on max and then a dnf later on in the race.
How can someone give George Russell? A 9/10 or 10/10. They messed up on their strategy and then he dnf’s. But of course Checo’s issues were proven to be mechanical and he worked his way up the field before the 57 lap issue. But nope 5/6 out of 10 🙄
@@99hrs Mi amigo, estos brits y los de TheRace califican banderas, no rendimiento. Ninguno admitirá que la mayor fortaleza de Max es la debilidad de Checo: los Safety Car. En lo único que son buenos (y a veces) es para hacer memes. 🙋♂️
@@Angriffskuchen Perez was trying to do the best he could since he wasn’t 100% sure the car was even fixed. I’m assuming Russell’s goal was to Dnf since he almost got a 10/10 for it.?
To be honest, this is the kind of mistake we've been used to seeing from Mick. It's one of those moments where he didn't even seem to realize he'd pushed too hard. That makes me scratch my head. People give certain drivers flack for mistakes like that, and then other drivers seem to be untouchable darlings. I feel like Albon is like Mick. People can't help but like him. I'm just not sure he's all that fast or seems to understand where the limit is.
I really disagree on Matt's take on Max. If anything, I'd say Max probably went a bit more conservative at the start knowing that he can just cruise pass when the race settled down. If anything, that was the mentality people were praising Lewis when he had the dominant car, not taking any unnecessary risks and bagging the points he can.
Seems a bit harsh on Checo. He made up the same amount of places as Max did last week on a track that is arguably harder to pass on (Jeddah has nearly 3x the amount of overtakes than Melbourne on average). His average speed was higher than Max's, and finally some of his moves were absolute magic.
Exactly! Australia is a bit like Monza has plenty of straights which sounds easy but with DRS trains no matter how quick your car is can be difficult to catch up to the cars ahead which made it harder for Checo to catch quicker. With Jeddah it does have the long straights but also has plenty of tight and twisty corners which benefits the Red Bull a lot and makes them catch the others a lot quicker which allowed Max to cut through the field more easier than Checo did in Australia
Hmax looked like a rookie getting passed by both Mercedes at the start,almost loosing position to Alonso at the restart and going off track all by himself whilest driving with 10sec advantage! It's just the car and nothing but the car which makes him dominant! And of course the FiA not giving him a penalty for lining up outside the grid box! Can't wait for another team to catch up and expose him...
@@supmikpaddleboarding5871 ye bro, we know you like blowing your favourite Black driver but he is finished and Max js gonna be WDC again, keep crying 😂
@@supmikpaddleboarding5871 thats a bit harsh…. I mean we saw what he has in 2021 against hamilton. But yea it was quite surprising like how easily he let the mercs go very uncharacteristic or maybe George is that guy like the future world champ. Think people are sleeping on him or not hyping him up cuz of hamilton. But the way he’s outperformed lewis & now making moves with that shit box merc on max who know maybe he’s the one.
@@supmikpaddleboarding5871and Lewis looked like a rookie getting passed by Max. People like you won't be missed when Lewis retires and you stop watching
not sure how you gave russell a 10 when he was just about to be overtaken by lewis then was saved by the safety car? Not sure anyone was a 10, in fact 10s should be very rare.
I don't know if Lewis would've overtaken him. Lewis managed to stay within 1s thanks to the 4 DRS zones + tow but every time he came close, George was still able to pull away shortly after. The dirty air had a pretty strong effect on this track.
@@mikko3 in the opening laps??? what are you talking about??? he not managing his tires when lewis is literally within a sec with max a second behind him. did you watch the race?
@@mikko3 actually even he was "managing", according to data he didnt have much types left. So if there was no red flag or SC he might crash down eventually.
@@samfalcon4794 I have a feeling Matt and Tom don't even consider all the angles or incidents that happen. I get it that this is not a "professional review" but even then it irks me to an extent.
Zhou literally overtook Tsunoda in an alpha Romeo and gave pressure to Kmag the entire time which I’d argue caused Kmag’s mistake. It was a good performance despite not being able to ultimately overtake Kmag.
I agreed about Bottas just being on a Sunday Drive, i remember seeing the timing board during the race and wondering what is he doing? But then I saw the post race interviews, he explained that he basically got screwed by both red flags, as he had pitted under the SC right before them each time! Im not a Valterri fan but kinda surprised Matt n Tommy didnt mention that… but still, it doesn’t excuse his slow pace compared to Zhou though
Matt is always harsh on Bottas so it's no surprise. Yes Bottas was slow, but there were other drivers that were slow and also literally crashed themselves out of the race due to their own error. Yet Bottas still got the lowest score. Taking yourself out and costing the team money is always worse than just being slow.
@paper plane You are strawmanning hard right now. Were the crashes all the drivers driving on the limit and losing it? No. Sargeant plowing into the back of devries isn't losing it while driving on the limit. Kmag not losing the car but straight up banged a wall for no reason is not Senna or Schumacher. Pierre not checking his right mirror is not driving on the limit. Only albon might fit that category. Your analogy of on the limit vs slow doesn't apply to my point. Again some drivers were BOTH slow and had an error. And remember this is a race to race ranking. Not an overall driver ranking. You have to penalize driver errors. Otherwise mistakes won't be represented correctly. Good drivers will still get a fair rating overall this way.
Hulk and Albion would be a great choice for a team looking to overachieve. They are drivers who can compete at the top, Hulk is more consistent, Albion more chance of winning and binning, but at a team where you can accept the odd mistake they'd thrive. Like Tim Howard moving from Man U to Everton.
I think in Melbourne many cars had better race pace and overtaking wasn't easy... Checo in the last restart didn't go off he had to take evasive action or he would have punted Gasly from behind. Checo even got pushed wide on the first restart when he made up 3-4 positions.
You guys are harsh with Checo without having followed his race. First restart, he had a great start but De Vries blocked him and made him lose positions. With Gasly, there was absolutely nothing he could’ve done. Also, he had great overtakes but the red flags hindered his progress. He would’ve finished in the podium. I would’ve given him an 8 when the only thing he could’ve done better was to get closer to Norris. His pace fell off a little bit there, otherwise he was pushing and making daring overtakes.
I think there could be a little more variance in the rankings; if a driver has “the worst race of their career” and still gets a 2 (Lando Saudi, for example), how could a driver ever get a 1? I feel like a 7 is too high for “ok” given it equates to “average” which on a scale from 1 to 10 is 5.5 not 7. Relative to each other though the drivers are pretty well ranked imo.
Also sometimes Quali matters and sometimes apparently not... How can you give Albon a 2/10 when he had a monster Qualifying? His DNF was also not as horrible as Magnussen's. The car suddenly snapped, probably because Alvin pushed that bit too much, but he didn't plainly drove into the wall...
No. The race winner won because he was driving the Millennium Falcon while everyone else had a Star Trek shuttle craft. Any time Max does not win, he DESERVES less than a 6 drive score. A win is his absolute minimum every race, until further notice. Edit: hell I almost forgot, Max Verstappen pulled a TWO SECOND GAP on Lewis Hamilton in *ONE SECTOR* after passing him for the lead. That car is in a completely different league.
Max had a dumb moment where he went off track, obviously didn't cost him because he's in a rocket ship but that's still a mistake he should be penalized for when rating his performance.
@@sheldoniusRex I'm not saying that you don't have a point there about Max. The point I'm trying to make is that a DNF because you're engine blew up all the way in my point of view ,always is a drivers mistake . The reason why i am saying that, is that you ask more from you're engine then you're engine is capable of. Driving on the limit is good and should be rewarded. Driving over the limit should be penalized!
He’s just good. Nothing special. Beating a washed out of prime bottas is nothing special. He’s done nothing spectacular as well he’s bottom 5 in terms of driver ranking this season still
@@xtheamazingax excuses. It’s better than alpha tauri and he’s not doing anything special with that car. It’s definitely a midfield car and not a back marker. They just have poor drivers
@@AZBCDEE 1st saying its better than alpha tauri is not saying much, basically what you are saying is they should be 18-19th which means a back marker. 2ndly did you notice that the Alfa Romeo is the draggiest car in the grid, I mean their best straight line speed in Bahrain was 318 km/h, which easily .1-.2 secs lost in each long straight relative to majority of the cars. Even the fucking Mercedes looks like a rocket compared do Alfa in straights.
I disagree with the Checo assessment. The double pit stop at the start, right before the first red flag, cost him a few places. Had the race not been red-flagged, he could have covered the drivers who hadn't swapped during the yellow flag(An unfortunate strategy miss by RB). Not saying he would have won the race, just that he would have been in contention for a podium. Additionally, His running off track at the end, to me at least, seemed an attempt to avoid a collision. I would have rated it 7 out of 10 for his overtakes but he should be challenging for wins.
Giving George 10 points and Max 8? While George only drove 9 laps and Max all 58? In other words, if Max would do 1 perfect lap after which his engine fails and has to retire, then he gets a better score then George, driving al 58, only once cuts the grass and wins the race after 3 red flags and all the chaos? Come on guys, that's not even trying to hide the obvious bias!
Yet another person who never bothers to learn how these grades work... Look, if all you want is to hear the race result and the championship standings, go look at them. This is about what the figures might not show.
@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN Never bother to learn? What's there TO learn if you give ratings based on you gut? I give DeVries a 10 because he drove a problem free race and was only stopped by someone torpedoing him from behind!
go see the Power Rankings every wednesday after a race, they go out of their way to not give Max top spot! Max’s consistency though gives him the average top spot the last couple of years!
Seeing as RedBull has the fastest car on the grid, they are pretty much expected to end up 1-2 if everything goes as expected. Therefore, even though a race CAN be a 10/10 for them, they need to do more than just win to get a 10/10, like having a race without obvious mistakes. Unfortunately, Max made several mistakes. He was passed by both of the Mercedes' at the restart, and also just drove off the track at some point.
@@Peligrososa I mean, everyone is entitled to their opinion. If you think that makes it more impressive, that’s fine! I’m just trying to answer the originally posed question with what I assume would be the reason most people (me included) would deduct points from Max in this instant. I don’t think recovering to end up first in this race was all that impressive considering he A. has the fastest car, and B. George was unlucky with the safety car and then DNFd. Not saying Max isn’t impressive, of course. He’s a fantastic driver.
Gotta love the hyprocrisy. Lando and all others taking advantage of people DNF'ing = GOOD. Checo taking advantage of people DNF'ing = BAD. Also, what a silly comment from Tommy to say he went off the road at the restart-- Did you expect him to crash into all the chaos? It's also cool how you also brush away the technical issues that where clearly present on FP3 and Qualy and wouldn't you know it, they changed parts on his car and suddenly he didn't have those issues during a whole race.
Yeah Checo did some good overtaking he managed to get into P5 its not his fault Gasly crashed into Ocon or that Sainz hit Alonso thats RACING! out of the 58 laps they only race around 45 laps and even lake that he managed to get ahead, he pitted under safety car and messed up his strategy oh but they dont mention that Russell also did it abd they did say it messed him up.
Would it maybe be worthwhile to assign each of 1-10 to only two drivers each every week? Giving the lowest performances a 1 would feel harsh but help showcase who is really doing the best/worst every weekend.
@@Gl-my8fw True. It's funny how you could see Stroll and Alonso in the same shot for most of the race and they're acting like Alonso was miles ahead of him in performance this weekend.
@@ErickMcNerney Stroll was overtaken by Sainz, Russell and Gasly. During the race he couldn’t stay behind the DRS of Gasly and Sainz. Also, after the restart he went out of the track. If the red flag hadn’t came up before the first sector, Stroll would have finished the race 12th by his own mistake. So, I would put him a 5/10 and I’m being generous.
@@robertcanaryislands6484 Yeah, I'm sure it had nothing to do with Leclerc at all...I think the first restart he didn't do great. But up to that point he had caught up with Alonso and was pretty much right there with him up to the first red flag. He was going to catch Gasly and probably pass him at the end. Also, again, all of those drivers you've mentioned were right up close to one another, and they were close behind Alonso. So it was just the way you framed it to make it sound bad. Sainz was pretty much right behind Alonso. Alonso couldn't get passed Hamilton. Hamilton, Alonso, Sainz, Gasly and Stroll were all pretty close to one another for a large portion of that race. The pace of almost all of the front runners was similar.
Matt & Tommy, I basically agree to your ratings, well-measured. Please consider my 3 suggestions to make your ratings videos even better, and provide (in a ranked fashion): 1. the average between your 2 ratings for every race. 2. the average for each driver up to the last race 3. the average delta between the 2 drivers of each team (at the midpoint and at the end of the season). (Btw, good to see Nico right up there with George, Lewis and Max!)
Look at that race and tell me that Stroll deserved that P4 and that Russell's DNF was both a) his fault and b) he wasn't on for a fantastic drive. Buzz off.
huh? so far, he did: -8th in a car that should not have been that high. -broken floor in lap 1, no chance to do anything -screwed by 2 safety car pitstops that got red flagged and energy deployment issues. While i think that bottas hasn't been on full form, we haven't seen enough to say he went down a lot.
I mean it's pretty obvious that mechanical retirement is not the drivers fault. This isn't team or car performance, it's driver performance. Max had slower starts than normal and also had a drive into the grass on a lock up. If he wasn't in a car that gaps the competition, the few seconds lost in the grass could've been costly
Its determined by what they can realistically achieve. Just like you can't dish out a 10 to max for winning, he's expected to win, he's in the fastest car by a huge Margin. I think they were really lenient on max this race to be honest. He had 2 awful starts, nearly jumped a 3rd one. Nearly ended up on the gravel despite Lewis leaving him plenty of room (also keep in mind it was 1 of the 2 times he had to race anyone during the whole GP, and he nearly binned it). And lastly he even binned it over the grass when he was under 0 pressure from anyone.
@@bartandaelus359 He finished P6 with two broken wrists and a broken toe, DNF’d out of Jeddah and finished right behind his podium-bound teammate in Australia. WHILE STILL RECOVERING FROM FRACTURING HIS WRISTS!! What more do you want from him?!
@Bartandaelus Podium worthy yes, but there is only one podium spot available and we all know he is no Alonso, Russell, Hamilton, Verstappen, Leclerc. He is still bringing in the points that the team needs even with both wrists broken. Something drivers like Ricciardo didn't manage to do. They scored Norris a 9 for not really doing anything in the race outside of not crash and get lucky. And I like Norris a lot more than Stroll.
Yeah it's kind of weird. I think one of his few mistakes this weekend was that lockup. There was carnage and mayhem all around him and none of it his fault. Seems like he should get extra points for that. He was the beneficiary of a tap from Leclerc which caused him to lose positions. They kind of seemed like amateur F1 fans in this analysis, where they kind of go based on what you expect the drivers to be like, without looking at the details. If you're going to be in depth and analyze F1, you've gotta go deeper than the stereotypes. This video seemed a bit lazy.
Checo went off because of Gasly Tommy... I'd give him a 7. I agree with Matt that he didn't catch Norris as fast as expected but overall he made great overtakes in Australia where it's not an easy feat.
What I love about these videos is they make the Race weekend last longer. It's not just the FP, Quali and race I am looking forward to, but also the internets best re- I mean the funniest tweets ( ;) ) and this. I love it
20:20 Underwhelming is that you didn't even bother to inform yourselves. RB realistic expectations for Perez was P8. But I guess you all know better about F1 so, anything below P2 is "disappointing". He had to manage behind Norris for a few laps due to graining (normal after so many laps overtaking 10 cars in the same tyres) and after that he just breeze past the McLaren and Hulk. He had amazing restarts each time but 1st De Vries almost crashed into him so he had to back out and he went off during the last restart to avoid Gasly who locked up. The alternative was crashing out. The only DNFs Perez benefitted from were the same as EVERYONE else benefited from, bar the top 3. I agree that his Saturday was horrendous, but his race was impeccable given the circumstances. Plus he got the fastest lap (lap record) .. and before you start, he did it without DRS since he was 2.5 seconds behind Stroll after passing Norris and Hulk before his fast lap. I mean, it's your opinion or whatever, but really disappointing that you don't even care to have at least some basis on what really happened. You contribute to create more toxicity in this already toxic and ignorant community. But I guess it's my fault for thinking for a second that you guys were trying to be objective and had any knowledge of F1. My bad.
Totally agree with A.N.Y.C.R…I’ve been watching F1 since the 1975 and totally disagree with ALL the driver ratings of both. You call these F1 drivers? How can you compare to the likes of Lauda, Senna, Prost, Mansell, Schumacher, Hakkinen, Piquet…blah blah. I could go on. George Russell never stops bleating about Red Bull and their “sandbagging” cars. I never saw anyone mention about the dominance of the Mercedes in the hybrid era. Is he trying to reign in RB and get FIA to make more rule changes? I say STOP whinging and moaning and get on with the business of trying to win races and accept that RB have the best car and ask your engineers and aerodynamicists to come up with a better idea of an F1 car to challenge RB as Aston Martin have done.If this continues I’ll certainly be putting F1 on the back burner for the rest of the season and Max Verstappen WILL become a three time WC. Here is a driver that is complete in almost all areas and knows how to win in a superior machine. What of Sergio Perez’s chances this season? A poor second or third behind the “rejuvenated” Fernando Alonso (my favourite driver) and even Perez couldn’t hack it in Q1 in Australia eventually blaming poor brakes even though the data suggested otherwise. I’ll leave my opinions here and let others decide. Thank you.
“5th if it wasnt for Sainz and Gasly issues” Mate it would’ve been a podium if the car didn’t malfunction in Q3. He also got the fastest lap. That score on Checo is tooooo low
I agree man and it seems that every race they have something wrong to say about Checo, he went from P20 to P5 regardless of how he did some good overtakes, and he only got like 45 laps of racing he wouldve been P4 P3 on his own of it wasnt for rhe SafetyCars and RedFlags.
I mean what did he do wrong tbf? And he made it clear he gave 10 just because he thought Russell did better than Hamilton and Hamilton got 9. Not Russells fault his engine couldn’t handle his pace
I had the same reaction, by no means do I think his race was poor but he DNF'd and even if he hadn't the minute he boxed for hards his chances of a podium were pretty much over.
@@Graziano45 so if somebody in the worst car qualified p1, led every lap and then 2 laps from finishing had their engine conk out you think they wouldn’t deserve a 10?
@@deeznoots6241in that case of course he has to have a 10, but Russell only completed 17 laps and only ahead the first 7, it was going to be a incredible perfomance but, you cannot have a 10 with only 17 laps
You're wrong about Sergio, and you should feel bad ;) My only thought about him taking time behind Norris was saving tires.. maybe. He had on the same hards from the start basically.
Appreciate these ranking videos. Can’t imagine we will all ever agree on ratings, but I enjoy listening to your take. Hard one to score with all the dnfs and carnage. Glad for Lando’s rebound.
This is so weird now with the podcasts. I get confused over which podcast I have seen on UA-cam, which podcast I have already listened too on a podcast app and which podcast I've seen on Twitch.
I really don’t think max put his win at stake with both Mercedes passing him. For me it showed maturity, he knew there was no benefit in risking it. He said after the race he didn’t push due to knowing over a race the rb is so fast
Pierre & Esteban.... In the onboard for Esteban, there is SO MUCH time before Pierre comes across the track that Esteban could've easily lifted for just an instant and avoided the crash. Yes, Gasley shouldn't have come across the track like that, but in this case it took 2 bad decisions for that crash to happen. To me, this is a pattern with Esteban where he's getting the attitude of he'd rather crash out and be "right" than stay in and possibly get points.
P4 absolutely flatters Lance because of the madness at the end. He never really threatened Gasly in an Alpine that’s decent but no real competition to AM. He only jumped Gasly because Pierre decided to yeet himself and his teammate into the wall. Middling grade is very fair for Lance this race
Suggestion to make these videos 1 step better- could you give the average score for each driver from both of your scores this race, and across the season as stats at the end of the video? Would love to see a "driver's championship" based on your scoring
Max should have gotten a 10, his less than perfect weekend is likely not his fault. The clutch setup is probably not ideal, so is the way Red Bulls have tire warm-up issues in Melbourne. Also, he doesn't have to worry about letting a couple of cars past him, he knows once DRS opens he can pass them easily, then pull away and drive at whatever gap the Red Bull teams feels is appropriate for the race. It shows his maturing temperament that he isn't going to throw away the race at the first few corners because he doesn't have to.
@Mikko Did I say that? I said he drove a mature race, knowing he could pass the Mercs anytime he wanted, avoided stupid risk many other drivers didn't during the race. For this specific win, he dominated the race, still won after 3 standing starts, yes he deserves a 10.
How is Logan at 2 points? He was being Latifi the whole race and Quali. He was nowhere near Albon in Quali and in the race he was a comfortable back marker. Also Charles 3 for what? Charles bottled Quali and than bottled the race 2 for me
To be fair to Logan, he had basically a whole day of practice less because his car decided it doesn’t want to be a car anymore and it’s his first time in Melbourne in an F1 car
I thought PG was a tiny bit harsh, That restart on cold tires everyone was loose nobody could see, So what both of you said was true enough normally, but that restart was a wash. And he otherwise drove his heart out.
I feel for Albon, but that was such a bizarre accident in the race, I can't believe there *_wasn't_* some sort of suspension or wheel failure, he basically lost it exiting the previous corner before the mini-straight that he spun going into.
Albon deserves better. He was rapid all weekend and made one small mistake. Sure it had big consequences, but if he hadn't done that he would have finished really well and he was punching way above that car.
Other drivers went off at the same corner all race weekend. Those Pirelli tyre compounds seemed to have a tricky operating window vs the other compounds. Alex in a williams at P6 on merit is worth more than a 2 even with binning.
"one small mistake" More like one massive, colossal, titanic mistake! He DNF'd in an unforced error! On a corner no one usually goes off on! How is his performance made better by a good quali? If anything it makes it significantly worse that he went off because he's tossing away not only a perfectly good car but also opportunity.
@@bartandaelus359 He mentioned the tyre temp might have spiked and let go. Let a lot of the other cars at the same corner over the weekend. But not keeping it within the tyre window is a mistake,.
Zhou absolutely deserved his point. Beating valttery clean. And not to mention KMag going into the wall has at least partly to do with the pressure zhou put on him, which led to earning his point finish
So perez did what verstappen did on a harder track to overtake, yes i know it took him longer, but he would have been 12th in the second restart if nyck hadn't cut him off, and due to nyck cutting him off, he actually had to regain 4 positions to get to where he would have been had it not been for being cut off, they say "he went off" in the final lap, as if it was his fault and not the fact that gasly went off and that forced him to go off because he couldn't turn in, as he was side by side with gasly, and if he turned in he would have crashed, it doesn't make much sense does it? Atleast a 7/10 if what verstappen did in jeddah was a 9/10, because you have to remember that checo really wasn't helped by sc, as it was a one stop strategy that he made at the start of the race, but then the red flag came and it invalidated his stop, so he did what verstappen did but without the help of sc's, and I already told you why both redflags were not only useless to him but damaging, and the reasons that it was damaging, even though he was really good off restarts, both times close to getting 2 or 3 overtakes, but getting cut off and making him fall down the order
This. How can you fault him for going out on the restart when Gasly locked and forced him out. It was obvious that the Red Bull had issues under breaking for both Sergio and Max, it was handling like a pig all Saturday. Even Max went off during the race. You cannot blame that on Sergio and considering how little driveability his car had, it was a fantastic recovery drive.
It took him 20 laps to close a 5s gap to Norris driving the worst McLaren since the McHondas of a few years ago. Disregarding everything else that happened, that’s just woeful pace. It took Max 25 laps in total to get 2nd (with a little luck) at Jeddah. They are not similar performances. Modern Australia’s also not nearly as difficult to overtake on as it used to be with all the track changes. Especially when driving an RB19 with super DRS and 4 DRS zones.
I find it weird that Leclerc punts himself off in lap 1 gets rated the same score as Albon, whose car just suddenly stepped out at the back without any obvious driver mistake.
How can you give Lando 9 and Oscar a 7? Oscar finished 3 places lower and finished 2 places behind him. And giving George a 10 is just laughable, didn't even finish and you give him a perfect score. I love you guys but the British bias is frustrating at times.
Giving checco overly a hard time here. Going off track after the restart was forced by ocon locking up? not sure what you'd have expected from him. he had some great overtakes on that same corner comparing to max in jeddah on a much easier circuit for RB to overtake..
fia don't care about the back markers, they will give him a penatly and what then? He is starting from the back anyway, and he have no panatly points, as this is his first season.
For what it's worth I think Bottas mentioned they got unlucky with pitstops, changing tyres twice before a redflag. But yeah, it wasn't a notable race from him in any case...
Kind of funny. Max has less then 10 points of the maximum score he could get 3rd race in. Remember his car broke down in race 2. Else he would have 3 out of 3. And still he did not get any 10. And he will not get any this year, never mind how he is racing. This because you expect this winning of him. When Max wins every race this season, nobody will get a 10 this season if you keep it up like this. You are measuring with 2 sticks. One for Max and 1 for the rest. You know that is unfair.. right?
exactly, what else can he do but take pole and win. That lock-up and then going wide through the grass was really quick thinking of him, he didn’t want a flat spot on that tire he locked-up.
@@Rob2 yes, that is my point exactly. The expectation of Max are sky high, so he must triple his driving skills from other drivers to get the same score. do you not see that? It is like saying, a weak driver did get 1 point, so he is getting a 10, aldo the better teammate get a 8 for getting his ass in the top 10 a few weeks in a row. You should not measure drivers against expectations but against there teammates and other drivers.
@@icourant Yeah, but I do not worry about it too much. Previously with the ABCDEF system Max still got plenty of A* ratings, but indeed it was much "easier" for a driver further down the back to get a top rating based on a lucky race, than for those at the top. However it is just a fun topic and I do not mind when Max does not always win everything.
Mag wasn’t that bad in Aussieland. But that pit called by the team just left him at the very back after rising to 12th. Although trying to break DRS drifting wide at T2 just isn’t good enough.
Perez should have 2/10. He has no business finishing anywhere other than 2nd. If he does the quali mistake in the race everybody would agree that he deserves 1/10. Horrible performance, unacceptable quali mistake!
@@fuerstmetternich1997 do you even read the news? Redbull accepted it was a mechanical error. So how is that added to the driver's performance? They gave George the same mechanical failure 10, but Perez who finished the race in P5 after a mechanical failure is 5, get a life!
@@fuerstmetternich1997 Are you just watching the season in highlights lol Perez for all of free practices was locking up, and he even said in the radio that Red Bull needed to fix those issues, Helmut is just talking trash because he failed to develop a junior to be in checos seat.
19:53 No, Matt, you're not horrible for giving Perez a 6/10, that's fair, but you're horrible for claiming that "biggest flop" point when you've graded nine other drivers lower than Perez yourself 😂
@@ajanasokan3532 I understand it wasn't his fault, but a driver with a mechanical failure cannot score full marks in my opinion. To make matters worse he didn't even reach half distance.
If Hulk is better than Mag, and Mag was better than Mick ... just imagine how bad Mazepin must have been.
Indeed. And how did they expect Mick to learn and grow as a driver? Not having actual times to be challenged with, for 2 years!
That’s what I keep thinking about since Bahrain.
What do you mean....imagine?
I mean we don't need to imagine. We saw it real time...
Haas just seems like a really toxic place to work. Luckily KMag and Hulk are extremely hard headed dudes so they can take it. But Haas is a horrible team for any rookie. "We hired you to save money, so don't ever break the car, but also get points in this absolute donkey so push hard". It was awful for a rookie.
Current Standings:
Total Average
Max Verstappen 55 9,17
Sergio Perez 47 7,83
Charles Leclerc 38 6,33
Carlos Sainz 36 6,00
George Russell 49 8,17
Lewis Hamilton 45 7,50
Esteban Ocon 29 4,83
Pierre Gasly 37 6,17
Lando Norris 34 5,67
Oscar Piastri 32 5,33
Zhou Guanyu 35 5,83
Valtteri Bottas 28 4,67
Fernando Alonso 53 8,83
Lance Stroll 42 7,00
Kevin Magnussen 26 4,33
Nico Hulkenberg 35 5,83
Yuki Tsunoda 43 7,17
Nyck de Vries 24 4,00
Alex Albon 34 5,67
Logan Sargeant 30 5,00
Total Average
Red Bull 102 8,50
Ferrari 74 6,17
Mercedes 94 7,83
Alpine 66 5,50
Mclaren 66 5,50
Alfa Romeo 63 5,25
Aston Martin 95 7,92
Haas 61 5,08
AlphaTauri 67 5,58
Williams 64 5,33
Ordered:
Total Average
Max Verstappen 55 9,17
Fernando Alonso 53 8,83
George Russell 49 8,17
Sergio Perez 47 7,83
Lewis Hamilton 45 7,50
Yuki Tsunoda 43 7,17
Lance Stroll 42 7,00
Charles Leclerc 38 6,33
Pierre Gasly 37 6,17
Carlos Sainz 36 6,00
Zhou Guanyu 35 5,83
Nico Hulkenberg 35 5,83
Lando Norris 34 5,67
Alex Albon 34 5,67
Oscar Piastri 32 5,33
Logan Sargeant 30 5,00
Esteban Ocon 29 4,83
Valtteri Bottas 28 4,67
Kevin Magnussen 26 4,33
Nyck de Vries 24 4,00
Total Average
Red Bull 102 8,50
Aston Martin 95 7,92
Mercedes 94 7,83
Ferrari 74 6,17
AlphaTauri 67 5,58
Alpine 66 5,50
Mclaren 66 5,50
Williams 64 5,33
Alfa Romeo 63 5,25
Haas 61 5,08
These are amazing. Thank you. Can you keep this going all season? Also, would it be possible to see them in order based on their rating points?
Also it’s two “l”s in Russell. Not Russel.
Honestly a really helpful comment. Keep it up (if you want)
Yea really nice to see. Sort highest to lowest next time though.
How the hell have you calculated averag, there have been 3 races and you divided by like 6.
@@megamert2848 because both matt and tom gave their ratings. Duh
Matt about George Russell: "Straight fire performance from him"
Me: "And straight fire performance from the car"
The only car that should be getting that is the Red Bull and I'm glad Max isn't just getting "he qualified first by half a second, fell asleep during the race, won because he's in a space shuttle, 10/10"
@@THENAMEISQUICKMANI think you missed the joke....
@@Villani_AV that shit flew way over him
Absolutely smoking pace
@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN that’s exactly how Lewis would have been rated in the Merc golden days.
10/10 for Matt. Amazing endurance right there. Watching the whole race after lap 1
Matt deserves a (HP grade) of O. For being outstanding that he’s even still watching 😂
🤣🤣
@@gameofender4463 yes. Matt, Verstappen, Setsuna Yuki, and Shioriko Mifune all are the only ones who got 10/10 in this race.
@@purwantiallan5089 don’t forget Russell. He was amazing in Australia till the car failed.
This race was just pure destruction, I want to know how much money all those crashes cost😂
Good vid idea. Tell them
All of it; all of the money.
quite a lot
great question!
£8’s.
Let's face it: Max has realized that the combination of his own quality and that of the car is so much better than all the competitors, that he does not have to worry about being first in the first corner.
Better be a bit more conservative and avoid damage to the car. After the race has settled, he can just pass everyone and finish first.
Look how he passed Hamilton. It looked like Hamilton was in an F2 car. A single sector later he was 2 seconds ahead.
Exactly. He said so after the race that he didn't want to risk damaging the car in a battle with two cars who had basically nothing to lose vs him. It's good to see him mature enough to pick his fights as compared to his earlier years. That rocketship of a car helps as well.
Yep, they most likely turned the car down to avoid attention. He pulled a 2 sec gap on LH immediately after overtake then turned it down again
Just like Lewis was doing from 2014😂😂😂 dishing out his own medicine
@@powerboy247 He hasn't really matured, he just now has the fastest car so he's acting accordingly. Shit will hit the fan once more when Aston and Merc catch up.
@@bonifacelukosi9580I completely disagree. listening to his radio messages during races (the ones they don't broadcast) this year compared to as recent as 21 he has changed his demeanor completely. They just never broadcast all the messages. Like when he instantly accepted the lack of investigation on hamilton's' pass, instead of minging about it like he would have before.
They only broadcast his moments of angst. Same for most drivers.
When I saw the 8/10 for Yuki, I immediately said WHAT? But then I remember the HULK** radio where he goes, “is tsunoda behind me…..for real?”
Hulk*
really haha
@@neverenoughgames72 oh hulk said that? My b I’ll edit it
@@I_AM_HYDRAA I guess it was Hulk huh
I was gassing Nyck up before the season started but if he doesn't get it together I can't see him getting another season. We might see Tsunoda and Iwasa paired up for 2024.
Ricciardo
or hauger maybe not likely
Tsunodo is really good. I can see him take the place next to Max after Checo leaves.
@@ferrari0323 Alpha Tauri is not really the team for veteran drivers like Danny. And would he even be interested in driving in the depths of the midfield?
Everyone sleeping on Zane Maloney down here
I feel like I watched a different race.
Nice that lando got points but really, was that a 9 worthy performance? If half the field hadn't crashed I think he'd have been a healthy 7 at best.
He deserves the HP equivalent of an E. As he exceeded expectations. But he wasn’t outstanding.
Amazing how Champs & race winners get trashed by fans & critics, but Lando NoWins is still "uNdErRaTeD" after 6 years. Most protected guy on the grid
You could say that about a lot of drivers though. He took advantage of the situation and used it to secure a good points finish. Not to mention he was matching checo in pace for a few laps, which, when comparing the cars they drive, is pretty damn impressive.
Agreed, they were overly generous with Lando... a 7 suits him fine. That McLaren is not stellar but not as bad as people make it out to be.
He matched checo’s pace , who is ina redbull and he couldn’t get near norris for about 15 laps , i would say its damn near impressive to match red bull’s speed in that shitbox of a mcleran
10/10 to Tsunoda, he literally drives the worst car on the grid and somehow he was able to fight for p8 before his car broken
What happened to his car??
Tsunoda got suspension broken.
4 and 5 for Pérez are just your personal degrees on analysis. Not flying through the field? Do you know about DRS chained cars? He was forced to pass on the outside which he brilliantly did... Yes, the car is over the top, but the tyres are the same for everyone and with worn tires becomes more difficult to pass anybody. Perez kept pushing, he owned the fast lap, so... whithout proclaiming him the best pilot ever, a 7 or minimum 6 note would be reasonable and fair.
Yuki is doing an amazing job this year! He's finally showing his strengths on the track, possibly because he is more fit this year? Idk why. But great to see him doing well
I 100% believe that his new trainer is the key. Yuki is looking downright vascular this year. The guy has put on a LOT of muscle, an impressive amount and that's coming from a powerlifter.
You simply do not put on as much muscle as he has without incredible discipline and fortitude and that's what he lacked on track. Last year his pace began to match Gasly, this year he's gained consistency and discipline.
@@bartandaelus359 This is really cool input bro
Yuki keeps going like this, he better get a top seat soon
@@inspiredglue2056 If this continues i could see another season in the AT as a clear priority driver #1 with Iwasa at his side (2 japanese drivers in a Honda... it's a marketing delight but would also help Iwasa assimilate into the team really well) and if he proves consistent then replace Perez for '25. Perez is quite frankly too consistent to replace right now, unless they could convince a Leclerc or Norris to come over but by all accounts they're a bit too scared of being dominated by Max in a team he basically owns at this point to do so, and career wise that's a sensible choice.
Yuki is a very strong pick for a replacement though and who knows, if Perez doesn't deliver in a few key races before the mid year, we may see Yuki promoted sooner rather than later.
@@bartandaelus359 yea totally would be great press for AT
yes mate! his new personal coach is daniel's old one Michael Italiano!
I think I would give tsunoda a 9 based on his restart. His replay showed him do about 4 overtakes and went from p13 to p5 in less than one sector. I hope he shows more of that when it actually counts 😂
Reminds me of his F2 days, which Iwasa is emulating or even exceeding currently.
Mark my words, next year its Tsunoda and Iwasa in the Honda powered AT. Marketing genius but also a solid pairing, and the presence of Tsunoda will help Iwasa integrate a LOT more smoothly than he did.
Gasly had great pace , such a shame about the DNF
He should have a race ban tbh
@@emmata98 ???
@@dopaminDavid he should have gotten a penalty for his move, witch would gotten him to the 12 penalty points
@@emmata98 after Gasly criticized FIA after Japan race they gave him penalty points left and right , I bet they will do the same to Sainz now
Yeah shame for Pierre, He would have finished P5 or P4
Rating on Perez is quite harsh, it wasn’t that he couldn’t catch Norris. They were holding the gap strategically because it’ll be much easier to pass him at the end of the race.
Also quite funny Russell getting a 10 for just having a good launch on max and then a dnf later on in the race.
How can someone give George Russell? A 9/10 or 10/10.
They messed up on their strategy and then he dnf’s.
But of course Checo’s issues were proven to be mechanical and he worked his way up the field before the 57 lap issue. But nope 5/6 out of 10 🙄
@@99hrs they will never appreciate checo from heart
@@99hrs Mi amigo, estos brits y los de TheRace califican banderas, no rendimiento. Ninguno admitirá que la mayor fortaleza de Max es la debilidad de Checo: los Safety Car.
En lo único que son buenos (y a veces) es para hacer memes.
🙋♂️
So Perez goal was to get P6 at the end of the race?
@@Angriffskuchen Perez was trying to do the best he could since he wasn’t 100% sure the car was even fixed. I’m assuming Russell’s goal was to Dnf since he almost got a 10/10 for it.?
I feel like Yuki is in the best form of his career despite the results
Albons not used to the williams going that fast give him a damn break 😂
To be honest, this is the kind of mistake we've been used to seeing from Mick.
It's one of those moments where he didn't even seem to realize he'd pushed too hard. That makes me scratch my head. People give certain drivers flack for mistakes like that, and then other drivers seem to be untouchable darlings.
I feel like Albon is like Mick. People can't help but like him. I'm just not sure he's all that fast or seems to understand where the limit is.
The Gasły rating is shocking.
I really disagree on Matt's take on Max. If anything, I'd say Max probably went a bit more conservative at the start knowing that he can just cruise pass when the race settled down. If anything, that was the mentality people were praising Lewis when he had the dominant car, not taking any unnecessary risks and bagging the points he can.
did anyone notice that before the VSC alonso was about 1 second and catching hamilton, then the when the VSC ended hamilton had like a 4 second gap
Seems a bit harsh on Checo. He made up the same amount of places as Max did last week on a track that is arguably harder to pass on (Jeddah has nearly 3x the amount of overtakes than Melbourne on average). His average speed was higher than Max's, and finally some of his moves were absolute magic.
Exactly! Australia is a bit like Monza has plenty of straights which sounds easy but with DRS trains no matter how quick your car is can be difficult to catch up to the cars ahead which made it harder for Checo to catch quicker. With Jeddah it does have the long straights but also has plenty of tight and twisty corners which benefits the Red Bull a lot and makes them catch the others a lot quicker which allowed Max to cut through the field more easier than Checo did in Australia
His average speed was only higher than Max because he was following cars so had DRS, which obviously Max didn't.
@@mikko3 that was a mechanical issue that the team acknowledged.
Just think about how many places he won due to dnfs in front of him and Sainz penalty
@@RoysIdea just 2 lol
Ppl is upset with Verstappen not showing his elbows during the first lap due to his confidence on actual pace.
Hmax looked like a rookie getting passed by both Mercedes at the start,almost loosing position to Alonso at the restart and going off track all by himself whilest driving with 10sec advantage! It's just the car and nothing but the car which makes him dominant! And of course the FiA not giving him a penalty for lining up outside the grid box! Can't wait for another team to catch up and expose him...
@@supmikpaddleboarding5871
At this rate it’ll be George and Merc to defeat him.
@@supmikpaddleboarding5871 ye bro, we know you like blowing your favourite Black driver but he is finished and Max js gonna be WDC again, keep crying 😂
@@supmikpaddleboarding5871 thats a bit harsh…. I mean we saw what he has in 2021 against hamilton. But yea it was quite surprising like how easily he let the mercs go very uncharacteristic or maybe George is that guy like the future world champ. Think people are sleeping on him or not hyping him up cuz of hamilton. But the way he’s outperformed lewis & now making moves with that shit box merc on max who know maybe he’s the one.
@@supmikpaddleboarding5871and Lewis looked like a rookie getting passed by Max. People like you won't be missed when Lewis retires and you stop watching
not sure how you gave russell a 10 when he was just about to be overtaken by lewis then was saved by the safety car? Not sure anyone was a 10, in fact 10s should be very rare.
I don't know if Lewis would've overtaken him. Lewis managed to stay within 1s thanks to the 4 DRS zones + tow but every time he came close, George was still able to pull away shortly after. The dirty air had a pretty strong effect on this track.
@paper plane he was dude
@@mikko3 in the opening laps??? what are you talking about??? he not managing his tires when lewis is literally within a sec with max a second behind him. did you watch the race?
@@mikko3 actually even he was "managing", according to data he didnt have much types left. So if there was no red flag or SC he might crash down eventually.
Perez only went off on the last restart to avoid Gasly
Exactly No one speaks about that. Everyone acts as if he went off on his own.
@@samfalcon4794 I have a feeling Matt and Tom don't even consider all the angles or incidents that happen.
I get it that this is not a "professional review" but even then it irks me to an extent.
@@xael-the-artist7708 no no in case of perez there is only one angle that he is at fault😂😂...checo rocks
How does that change anything? He should have put himself in that situation.
Gasly only went off to avoid Sainz, your point?
Bring back Katty fairman, at least as a guest, she would defend checo like a pro
like a lion! 😂
Maybe she'd talk some sense into these idiotic scores.
too fat, not enough space on screen.
@@joshn1678 aww your mad
for a terribly mid performance?
You just can't give a driver that didn't Finnish 10/10 cuz you don't know what would have happen
Zhou literally overtook Tsunoda in an alpha Romeo and gave pressure to Kmag the entire time which I’d argue caused Kmag’s mistake. It was a good performance despite not being able to ultimately overtake Kmag.
Zhou is definitely a solid driver but the car just isn’t good enough to do anything special.
I’m incredibly surprised by Zhou. I didn’t rate him at all when he got the seat. Really showing he belongs
I agreed about Bottas just being on a Sunday Drive, i remember seeing the timing board during the race and wondering what is he doing? But then I saw the post race interviews, he explained that he basically got screwed by both red flags, as he had pitted under the SC right before them each time! Im not a Valterri fan but kinda surprised Matt n Tommy didnt mention that… but still, it doesn’t excuse his slow pace compared to Zhou though
Matt is always harsh on Bottas so it's no surprise. Yes Bottas was slow, but there were other drivers that were slow and also literally crashed themselves out of the race due to their own error. Yet Bottas still got the lowest score. Taking yourself out and costing the team money is always worse than just being slow.
@paper plane You are strawmanning hard right now. Were the crashes all the drivers driving on the limit and losing it? No. Sargeant plowing into the back of devries isn't losing it while driving on the limit. Kmag not losing the car but straight up banged a wall for no reason is not Senna or Schumacher. Pierre not checking his right mirror is not driving on the limit. Only albon might fit that category. Your analogy of on the limit vs slow doesn't apply to my point. Again some drivers were BOTH slow and had an error.
And remember this is a race to race ranking. Not an overall driver ranking. You have to penalize driver errors. Otherwise mistakes won't be represented correctly. Good drivers will still get a fair rating overall this way.
@paper plane Magnusson was hardly taking it to the ragged edge and it's dishonest to pretend that he was.
not only that, but he had energy deployment issues all race.
As a Canadian, I can easily say that all of Mexico is cursing both of you right now.
Hulk and Albion would be a great choice for a team looking to overachieve. They are drivers who can compete at the top, Hulk is more consistent, Albion more chance of winning and binning, but at a team where you can accept the odd mistake they'd thrive. Like Tim Howard moving from Man U to Everton.
I think in Melbourne many cars had better race pace and overtaking wasn't easy... Checo in the last restart didn't go off he had to take evasive action or he would have punted Gasly from behind. Checo even got pushed wide on the first restart when he made up 3-4 positions.
You guys are harsh with Checo without having followed his race. First restart, he had a great start but De Vries blocked him and made him lose positions. With Gasly, there was absolutely nothing he could’ve done. Also, he had great overtakes but the red flags hindered his progress. He would’ve finished in the podium. I would’ve given him an 8 when the only thing he could’ve done better was to get closer to Norris. His pace fell off a little bit there, otherwise he was pushing and making daring overtakes.
“We now go to Pierre Gaslyyyy”
I think everyone’s happy about seeing Daniel back in the paddock this race
I think there could be a little more variance in the rankings; if a driver has “the worst race of their career” and still gets a 2 (Lando Saudi, for example), how could a driver ever get a 1?
I feel like a 7 is too high for “ok” given it equates to “average” which on a scale from 1 to 10 is 5.5 not 7.
Relative to each other though the drivers are pretty well ranked imo.
1 is when you a top 4 team, bottled the quali, and crash into others in the turn 1 lap 1.
Also sometimes Quali matters and sometimes apparently not... How can you give Albon a 2/10 when he had a monster Qualifying?
His DNF was also not as horrible as Magnussen's. The car suddenly snapped, probably because Alvin pushed that bit too much, but he didn't plainly drove into the wall...
I agree. A 7 is an above average performance. An ok performance is 5 or 6.
feels like Bottas is in Kimi mode right now, doesnt seem like he cares that much anymore
Loving life but turning up at the track just because
yeah, he still has good pace (just like the first race a P5 or something maybe?) but when the car or stratagy fucked up he just doesnt try to fight
Rating a DNF higher then a racewinner is very weird.
No. The race winner won because he was driving the Millennium Falcon while everyone else had a Star Trek shuttle craft. Any time Max does not win, he DESERVES less than a 6 drive score. A win is his absolute minimum every race, until further notice.
Edit: hell I almost forgot, Max Verstappen pulled a TWO SECOND GAP on Lewis Hamilton in *ONE SECTOR* after passing him for the lead. That car is in a completely different league.
True
It's not at all, it's purely about driver performance. The DNF was totally out of his control
Max had a dumb moment where he went off track, obviously didn't cost him because he's in a rocket ship but that's still a mistake he should be penalized for when rating his performance.
@@sheldoniusRex I'm not saying that you don't have a point there about Max. The point I'm trying to make is that a DNF because you're engine blew up all the way in my point of view ,always is a drivers mistake . The reason why i am saying that, is that you ask more from you're engine then you're engine is capable of. Driving on the limit is good and should be rewarded. Driving over the limit should be penalized!
Even though Carlos ended terribly it's nice to see improvement in him
I knew Zhou wouldn't be as bad as a lot of people were saying. On the contrary. 🙂
Zhou is a solid and constant driver..
He’s just good. Nothing special. Beating a washed out of prime bottas is nothing special. He’s done nothing spectacular as well he’s bottom 5 in terms of driver ranking this season still
@@sadikurrahman4833 not his fault Alfa Romeo haven't built a very good car this season.
@@xtheamazingax excuses. It’s better than alpha tauri and he’s not doing anything special with that car. It’s definitely a midfield car and not a back marker. They just have poor drivers
@@AZBCDEE 1st saying its better than alpha tauri is not saying much, basically what you are saying is they should be 18-19th which means a back marker. 2ndly did you notice that the Alfa Romeo is the draggiest car in the grid, I mean their best straight line speed in Bahrain was 318 km/h, which easily .1-.2 secs lost in each long straight relative to majority of the cars. Even the fucking Mercedes looks like a rocket compared do Alfa in straights.
It would be fun if you wrote the rating on a board and you lift it up at the same time to see your initial reaction and then go on to explain why!
I disagree with the Checo assessment. The double pit stop at the start, right before the first red flag, cost him a few places. Had the race not been red-flagged, he could have covered the drivers who hadn't swapped during the yellow flag(An unfortunate strategy miss by RB). Not saying he would have won the race, just that he would have been in contention for a podium.
Additionally, His running off track at the end, to me at least, seemed an attempt to avoid a collision.
I would have rated it 7 out of 10 for his overtakes but he should be challenging for wins.
Giving George 10 points and Max 8? While George only drove 9 laps and Max all 58? In other words, if Max would do 1 perfect lap after which his engine fails and has to retire, then he gets a better score then George, driving al 58, only once cuts the grass and wins the race after 3 red flags and all the chaos? Come on guys, that's not even trying to hide the obvious bias!
Yet another person who never bothers to learn how these grades work... Look, if all you want is to hear the race result and the championship standings, go look at them. This is about what the figures might not show.
@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN Never bother to learn? What's there TO learn if you give ratings based on you gut? I give DeVries a 10 because he drove a problem free race and was only stopped by someone torpedoing him from behind!
go see the Power Rankings every wednesday after a race, they go out of their way to not give Max top spot! Max’s consistency though gives him the average top spot the last couple of years!
If a 10 isn’t a race win than what is a race win and an impeccable performance ? Is it a 10 out of 10 or just a 10 ?? Just curious I’m a newbie.
It is about the driver performance not the driver and car combined (im theory fully, but in practical here in part)
Seeing as RedBull has the fastest car on the grid, they are pretty much expected to end up 1-2 if everything goes as expected. Therefore, even though a race CAN be a 10/10 for them, they need to do more than just win to get a 10/10, like having a race without obvious mistakes. Unfortunately, Max made several mistakes. He was passed by both of the Mercedes' at the restart, and also just drove off the track at some point.
@@addamaine So making mistakes and yet recovering them to end up first isn't more impressive?
@@Peligrososa I mean, everyone is entitled to their opinion. If you think that makes it more impressive, that’s fine! I’m just trying to answer the originally posed question with what I assume would be the reason most people (me included) would deduct points from Max in this instant. I don’t think recovering to end up first in this race was all that impressive considering he A. has the fastest car, and B. George was unlucky with the safety car and then DNFd. Not saying Max isn’t impressive, of course. He’s a fantastic driver.
Gotta love the hyprocrisy. Lando and all others taking advantage of people DNF'ing = GOOD. Checo taking advantage of people DNF'ing = BAD. Also, what a silly comment from Tommy to say he went off the road at the restart-- Did you expect him to crash into all the chaos? It's also cool how you also brush away the technical issues that where clearly present on FP3 and Qualy and wouldn't you know it, they changed parts on his car and suddenly he didn't have those issues during a whole race.
Yeah Checo did some good overtaking he managed to get into P5 its not his fault Gasly crashed into Ocon or that Sainz hit Alonso thats RACING! out of the 58 laps they only race around 45 laps and even lake that he managed to get ahead, he pitted under safety car and messed up his strategy oh but they dont mention that Russell also did it abd they did say it messed him up.
Would it maybe be worthwhile to assign each of 1-10 to only two drivers each every week?
Giving the lowest performances a 1 would feel harsh but help showcase who is really doing the best/worst every weekend.
5/10 rating for Stroll is bizarre... I would go for 7/10
he is probably just upset because leclerc took himself out on strolls car.
@@Gl-my8fw True. It's funny how you could see Stroll and Alonso in the same shot for most of the race and they're acting like Alonso was miles ahead of him in performance this weekend.
@@ErickMcNerney Stroll was overtaken by Sainz, Russell and Gasly. During the race he couldn’t stay behind the DRS of Gasly and Sainz. Also, after the restart he went out of the track. If the red flag hadn’t came up before the first sector, Stroll would have finished the race 12th by his own mistake. So, I would put him a 5/10 and I’m being generous.
@@robertcanaryislands6484 Yeah, I'm sure it had nothing to do with Leclerc at all...I think the first restart he didn't do great. But up to that point he had caught up with Alonso and was pretty much right there with him up to the first red flag. He was going to catch Gasly and probably pass him at the end.
Also, again, all of those drivers you've mentioned were right up close to one another, and they were close behind Alonso. So it was just the way you framed it to make it sound bad. Sainz was pretty much right behind Alonso. Alonso couldn't get passed Hamilton.
Hamilton, Alonso, Sainz, Gasly and Stroll were all pretty close to one another for a large portion of that race. The pace of almost all of the front runners was similar.
Matt & Tommy, I basically agree to your ratings, well-measured. Please consider my 3 suggestions to make your ratings videos even better, and provide (in a ranked fashion):
1. the average between your 2 ratings for every race.
2. the average for each driver up to the last race
3. the average delta between the 2 drivers of each team (at the midpoint and at the end of the season).
(Btw, good to see Nico right up there with George, Lewis and Max!)
So you give Lance Stroll a 5 and a 6 for finishing P4 and George Russell a 9 and a 10 and he didn't finish the damn race.
George _promised_ a great race and his quali was great but yeah, I can't see how you can rate a driver who didn't even complete half the race a 10.
Dude their ratings are so shit when it comes to popular drivers
Yeah. The DNF wasn't his fault.
Look at that race and tell me that Stroll deserved that P4 and that Russell's DNF was both a) his fault and b) he wasn't on for a fantastic drive.
Buzz off.
Did you even see race??. He overtook max on 1st turn and dnf coz of engine failure
crazy to think charles absolutely dominated last year... then this year 3/10
I rated all the drivers in another comment. I gave him the Harry Potter grade of T. 😂
dominated what? second place?
@@niels7844 australia, do u know how to use context?
This is so unfair to others, he was terrible and even in the team he is now second driver. 1/10 is a fair note.
@@danielap5339 yeah fair enough haha brainfart moment
Bottas seems like he's gone full Kimi Raikkonen mode this season. He is out there to have fun, and not necessairly for the results
or he's just mid
huh? so far, he did:
-8th in a car that should not have been that high.
-broken floor in lap 1, no chance to do anything
-screwed by 2 safety car pitstops that got red flagged and energy deployment issues.
While i think that bottas hasn't been on full form, we haven't seen enough to say he went down a lot.
I can hear the pain in matt's voice during the Ferrari duo segment
Ok but Perez HAD to go off at that "last" lap otherwise he would've crashed agasint Gasly, no?
Exactly
Giving George a 10/10 while he did not even finished and a driver that put it on 1 and finished 1 is a 8/10 LOL
I mean it's pretty obvious that mechanical retirement is not the drivers fault. This isn't team or car performance, it's driver performance. Max had slower starts than normal and also had a drive into the grass on a lock up. If he wasn't in a car that gaps the competition, the few seconds lost in the grass could've been costly
These guys haven’t got a clue. I suggest you subscribe to Peter Windsor’s channel, here’s a guy who knows what he’s talking about when it comes to F1.
Brits gonna Brit
@@panner11 So Free Practice counts too ? You really need to look at the Mercs performance in FP :)
Its determined by what they can realistically achieve.
Just like you can't dish out a 10 to max for winning, he's expected to win, he's in the fastest car by a huge Margin.
I think they were really lenient on max this race to be honest.
He had 2 awful starts, nearly jumped a 3rd one. Nearly ended up on the gravel despite Lewis leaving him plenty of room (also keep in mind it was 1 of the 2 times he had to race anyone during the whole GP, and he nearly binned it). And lastly he even binned it over the grass when he was under 0 pressure from anyone.
Nobody hates on Stroll more than this podcast
He's in a podium worthy car with no podiums and is consistently being shat on by Alonso. No excuses.
@@bartandaelus359 He finished P6 with two broken wrists and a broken toe, DNF’d out of Jeddah and finished right behind his podium-bound teammate in Australia. WHILE STILL RECOVERING FROM FRACTURING HIS WRISTS!! What more do you want from him?!
@Bartandaelus Podium worthy yes, but there is only one podium spot available and we all know he is no Alonso, Russell, Hamilton, Verstappen, Leclerc. He is still bringing in the points that the team needs even with both wrists broken. Something drivers like Ricciardo didn't manage to do.
They scored Norris a 9 for not really doing anything in the race outside of not crash and get lucky. And I like Norris a lot more than Stroll.
Yeah it's kind of weird. I think one of his few mistakes this weekend was that lockup. There was carnage and mayhem all around him and none of it his fault. Seems like he should get extra points for that. He was the beneficiary of a tap from Leclerc which caused him to lose positions. They kind of seemed like amateur F1 fans in this analysis, where they kind of go based on what you expect the drivers to be like, without looking at the details. If you're going to be in depth and analyze F1, you've gotta go deeper than the stereotypes. This video seemed a bit lazy.
Absolutely. These are quite trash.
Checo went off because of Gasly Tommy...
I'd give him a 7. I agree with Matt that he didn't catch Norris as fast as expected but overall he made great overtakes in Australia where it's not an easy feat.
What I love about these videos is they make the Race weekend last longer. It's not just the FP, Quali and race I am looking forward to, but also the internets best re- I mean the funniest tweets ( ;) ) and this. I love it
Lando 9 is a bit much, 7 is a better grade. A lot of people crashed out in front of him at the last restart. Piastri a 6 for the same reason
4K views in 10 minutes, you've done a fantastic job starting off this channel guys!
20:20 Underwhelming is that you didn't even bother to inform yourselves. RB realistic expectations for Perez was P8. But I guess you all know better about F1 so, anything below P2 is "disappointing".
He had to manage behind Norris for a few laps due to graining (normal after so many laps overtaking 10 cars in the same tyres) and after that he just breeze past the McLaren and Hulk. He had amazing restarts each time but 1st De Vries almost crashed into him so he had to back out and he went off during the last restart to avoid Gasly who locked up. The alternative was crashing out.
The only DNFs Perez benefitted from were the same as EVERYONE else benefited from, bar the top 3. I agree that his Saturday was horrendous, but his race was impeccable given the circumstances. Plus he got the fastest lap (lap record) .. and before you start, he did it without DRS since he was 2.5 seconds behind Stroll after passing Norris and Hulk before his fast lap.
I mean, it's your opinion or whatever, but really disappointing that you don't even care to have at least some basis on what really happened. You contribute to create more toxicity in this already toxic and ignorant community.
But I guess it's my fault for thinking for a second that you guys were trying to be objective and had any knowledge of F1. My bad.
Totally agree with A.N.Y.C.R…I’ve been watching F1 since the 1975 and totally disagree with ALL the driver ratings of both. You call these F1 drivers? How can you compare to the likes of Lauda, Senna, Prost, Mansell, Schumacher, Hakkinen, Piquet…blah blah. I could go on. George Russell never stops bleating about Red Bull and their “sandbagging” cars. I never saw anyone mention about the dominance of the Mercedes in the hybrid era. Is he trying to reign in RB and get FIA to make more rule changes? I say STOP whinging and moaning and get on with the business of trying to win races and accept that RB have the best car and ask your engineers and aerodynamicists to come up with a better idea of an F1 car to challenge RB as Aston Martin have done.If this continues I’ll certainly be putting F1 on the back burner for the rest of the season and Max Verstappen WILL become a three time WC. Here is a driver that is complete in almost all areas and knows how to win in a superior machine. What of Sergio Perez’s chances this season? A poor second or third behind the “rejuvenated” Fernando Alonso (my favourite driver) and even Perez couldn’t hack it in Q1 in Australia eventually blaming poor brakes even though the data suggested otherwise. I’ll leave my opinions here and let others decide. Thank you.
Advance 15 positions; Fast lap; Driver of the day. And you give it 6/10? Are you a sports commentator or a blind man?
They are blind.
Hülkenberg was a great choice for Haas! Sorry Mick!
All for fun but tommy how do you give a 5 for Perez? Yes he went off, but he got 15 positions. Lance had a 6 and he as well went off at the restart?
“5th if it wasnt for Sainz and Gasly issues”
Mate it would’ve been a podium if the car didn’t malfunction in Q3. He also got the fastest lap. That score on Checo is tooooo low
I agree man and it seems that every race they have something wrong to say about Checo, he went from P20 to P5 regardless of how he did some good overtakes, and he only got like 45 laps of racing he wouldve been P4 P3 on his own of it wasnt for rhe SafetyCars and RedFlags.
Hey lads great EP just wanted to say listening to the pod always makes my day, especially after school. I'll see you guys at the live show!
10/10 for Russel?? 😂😂😂
I mean what did he do wrong tbf? And he made it clear he gave 10 just because he thought Russell did better than Hamilton and Hamilton got 9. Not Russells fault his engine couldn’t handle his pace
I had the same reaction, by no means do I think his race was poor but he DNF'd and even if he hadn't the minute he boxed for hards his chances of a podium were pretty much over.
@@deeznoots6241 Not a single driver should get 10/10 if he didn't finish the race, I don't care about the reason.
10 for a DNF is ridiculous.
@@Graziano45 so if somebody in the worst car qualified p1, led every lap and then 2 laps from finishing had their engine conk out you think they wouldn’t deserve a 10?
@@deeznoots6241in that case of course he has to have a 10, but Russell only completed 17 laps and only ahead the first 7, it was going to be a incredible perfomance but, you cannot have a 10 with only 17 laps
You're wrong about Sergio, and you should feel bad ;)
My only thought about him taking time behind Norris was saving tires.. maybe. He had on the same hards from the start basically.
I cannot agree with 10/10 for George, since it appears that he was abusing his tires trying to stay in the lead. I say 9/10.
Evidence? Or is that your opinion?
Appreciate these ranking videos. Can’t imagine we will all ever agree on ratings, but I enjoy listening to your take. Hard one to score with all the dnfs and carnage. Glad for Lando’s rebound.
Max being graded against his own success shows how great he and the RB19 are
This x1000!!!!
the car is a rocket and max clears checo so anything other than an easy win can’t be 10
This is so weird now with the podcasts.
I get confused over which podcast I have seen on UA-cam, which podcast I have already listened too on a podcast app and which podcast I've seen on Twitch.
I really don’t think max put his win at stake with both Mercedes passing him. For me it showed maturity, he knew there was no benefit in risking it. He said after the race he didn’t push due to knowing over a race the rb is so fast
Pierre & Esteban.... In the onboard for Esteban, there is SO MUCH time before Pierre comes across the track that Esteban could've easily lifted for just an instant and avoided the crash.
Yes, Gasley shouldn't have come across the track like that, but in this case it took 2 bad decisions for that crash to happen. To me, this is a pattern with Esteban where he's getting the attitude of he'd rather crash out and be "right" than stay in and possibly get points.
Stroll 5&6 … after a p4??? Harsh man😂
they gave their reasons for it and they are very valid, i would give him a 5 aswell
That P4 was very flattering.
@paper plane therein lies the problem. He was behind Alonso. Again.
P4 absolutely flatters Lance because of the madness at the end. He never really threatened Gasly in an Alpine that’s decent but no real competition to AM. He only jumped Gasly because Pierre decided to yeet himself and his teammate into the wall. Middling grade is very fair for Lance this race
Suggestion to make these videos 1 step better- could you give the average score for each driver from both of your scores this race, and across the season as stats at the end of the video? Would love to see a "driver's championship" based on your scoring
Max should have gotten a 10, his less than perfect weekend is likely not his fault. The clutch setup is probably not ideal, so is the way Red Bulls have tire warm-up issues in Melbourne. Also, he doesn't have to worry about letting a couple of cars past him, he knows once DRS opens he can pass them easily, then pull away and drive at whatever gap the Red Bull teams feels is appropriate for the race. It shows his maturing temperament that he isn't going to throw away the race at the first few corners because he doesn't have to.
@Mikko Did I say that? I said he drove a mature race, knowing he could pass the Mercs anytime he wanted, avoided stupid risk many other drivers didn't during the race. For this specific win, he dominated the race, still won after 3 standing starts, yes he deserves a 10.
I think if we take 1 pt off all the British drivers and add 1 pt to every other driver we have a more accurate result across the board.
How is Logan at 2 points? He was being Latifi the whole race and Quali. He was nowhere near Albon in Quali and in the race he was a comfortable back marker. Also Charles 3 for what? Charles bottled Quali and than bottled the race 2 for me
Even a 2 is too high.
Imagine that was Mazepin who went off on turn 3, it's not getting a 3 no matter how good the quali was.
To be fair to Logan, he had basically a whole day of practice less because his car decided it doesn’t want to be a car anymore and it’s his first time in Melbourne in an F1 car
Tell me you have British bias without telling me you have British bias 😂
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I thought PG was a tiny bit harsh, That restart on cold tires everyone was loose nobody could see, So what both of you said was true enough normally, but that restart was a wash. And he otherwise drove his heart out.
Loved the shadowrealm reference.
I feel for Albon, but that was such a bizarre accident in the race, I can't believe there *_wasn't_* some sort of suspension or wheel failure, he basically lost it exiting the previous corner before the mini-straight that he spun going into.
Albon deserves better. He was rapid all weekend and made one small mistake. Sure it had big consequences, but if he hadn't done that he would have finished really well and he was punching way above that car.
Other drivers went off at the same corner all race weekend. Those Pirelli tyre compounds seemed to have a tricky operating window vs the other compounds. Alex in a williams at P6 on merit is worth more than a 2 even with binning.
"one small mistake"
More like one massive, colossal, titanic mistake! He DNF'd in an unforced error! On a corner no one usually goes off on! How is his performance made better by a good quali? If anything it makes it significantly worse that he went off because he's tossing away not only a perfectly good car but also opportunity.
@@bartandaelus359 He mentioned the tyre temp might have spiked and let go. Let a lot of the other cars at the same corner over the weekend. But not keeping it within the tyre window is a mistake,.
@@Max_Flashheart It's his job to maintain those temps. Its still his fault and doesn't just happen.
Zhou absolutely deserved his point. Beating valttery clean. And not to mention KMag going into the wall has at least partly to do with the pressure zhou put on him, which led to earning his point finish
So perez did what verstappen did on a harder track to overtake, yes i know it took him longer, but he would have been 12th in the second restart if nyck hadn't cut him off, and due to nyck cutting him off, he actually had to regain 4 positions to get to where he would have been had it not been for being cut off, they say "he went off" in the final lap, as if it was his fault and not the fact that gasly went off and that forced him to go off because he couldn't turn in, as he was side by side with gasly, and if he turned in he would have crashed, it doesn't make much sense does it? Atleast a 7/10 if what verstappen did in jeddah was a 9/10, because you have to remember that checo really wasn't helped by sc, as it was a one stop strategy that he made at the start of the race, but then the red flag came and it invalidated his stop, so he did what verstappen did but without the help of sc's, and I already told you why both redflags were not only useless to him but damaging, and the reasons that it was damaging, even though he was really good off restarts, both times close to getting 2 or 3 overtakes, but getting cut off and making him fall down the order
This. How can you fault him for going out on the restart when Gasly locked and forced him out. It was obvious that the Red Bull had issues under breaking for both Sergio and Max, it was handling like a pig all Saturday. Even Max went off during the race. You cannot blame that on Sergio and considering how little driveability his car had, it was a fantastic recovery drive.
What ? Perez is so slow he was stuck behind Norris for ten laps in a much faster car😂😂😂 you Perez dck riders are a funny bunch ngl finished driver thh
I don't why Matt and Tommy fail to look at these details, I'm sure Katty would have defended checo with these two. I miss her.
It took him 20 laps to close a 5s gap to Norris driving the worst McLaren since the McHondas of a few years ago. Disregarding everything else that happened, that’s just woeful pace.
It took Max 25 laps in total to get 2nd (with a little luck) at Jeddah. They are not similar performances.
Modern Australia’s also not nearly as difficult to overtake on as it used to be with all the track changes.
Especially when driving an RB19 with super DRS and 4 DRS zones.
Checo didnt overtake a single top 4 car. Without DNFs he'd have finished behind Gasly, Russell and LeClerc in 9th.
I find it weird that Leclerc punts himself off in lap 1 gets rated the same score as Albon, whose car just suddenly stepped out at the back without any obvious driver mistake.
How can you give Lando 9 and Oscar a 7? Oscar finished 3 places lower and finished 2 places behind him. And giving George a 10 is just laughable, didn't even finish and you give him a perfect score. I love you guys but the British bias is frustrating at times.
Giving checco overly a hard time here. Going off track after the restart was forced by ocon locking up? not sure what you'd have expected from him.
he had some great overtakes on that same corner comparing to max in jeddah on a much easier circuit for RB to overtake..
How did Sargeant not get a penalty and Sainz did? 😮
fia don't care about the back markers, they will give him a penatly and what then? He is starting from the back anyway, and he have no panatly points, as this is his first season.
because he also DNFed but Sainz did not. @mirvan23 is making stuff up
@@dylanmonaghan3342 FIA oficially dont care about someone DNF or not.
For what it's worth I think Bottas mentioned they got unlucky with pitstops, changing tyres twice before a redflag. But yeah, it wasn't a notable race from him in any case...
Kind of funny. Max has less then 10 points of the maximum score he could get 3rd race in. Remember his car broke down in race 2. Else he would have 3 out of 3. And still he did not get any 10. And he will not get any this year, never mind how he is racing. This because you expect this winning of him. When Max wins every race this season, nobody will get a 10 this season if you keep it up like this. You are measuring with 2 sticks. One for Max and 1 for the rest. You know that is unfair.. right?
These ratings (also in last year's format) have always been about performance relative to expectations.
exactly, what else can he do but take pole and win. That lock-up and then going wide through the grass was really quick thinking of him, he didn’t want a flat spot on that tire he locked-up.
@@Rob2 yes, that is my point exactly. The expectation of Max are sky high, so he must triple his driving skills from other drivers to get the same score. do you not see that? It is like saying, a weak driver did get 1 point, so he is getting a 10, aldo the better teammate get a 8 for getting his ass in the top 10 a few weeks in a row. You should not measure drivers against expectations but against there teammates and other drivers.
@@icourant Yeah, but I do not worry about it too much. Previously with the ABCDEF system Max still got plenty of A* ratings, but indeed it was much "easier" for a driver further down the back to get a top rating based on a lucky race, than for those at the top.
However it is just a fun topic and I do not mind when Max does not always win everything.
Mag wasn’t that bad in Aussieland. But that pit called by the team just left him at the very back after rising to 12th. Although trying to break DRS drifting wide at T2 just isn’t good enough.
So, 5 for Pérez because he went of and because he didn't finish in the podium... Wow, he went of because he avoided to crash with gasly
Perez should have 2/10. He has no business finishing anywhere other than 2nd. If he does the quali mistake in the race everybody would agree that he deserves 1/10. Horrible performance, unacceptable quali mistake!
@@fuerstmetternich1997 do you even read the news? Redbull accepted it was a mechanical error. So how is that added to the driver's performance? They gave George the same mechanical failure 10, but Perez who finished the race in P5 after a mechanical failure is 5, get a life!
@@HAHSIRAODEN It wasnt a mechanical failure. It was a driver error. Helmut Marko stated this very clearly.
@@fuerstmetternich1997 Are you just watching the season in highlights lol Perez for all of free practices was locking up, and he even said in the radio that Red Bull needed to fix those issues, Helmut is just talking trash because he failed to develop a junior to be in checos seat.
19:53 No, Matt, you're not horrible for giving Perez a 6/10, that's fair, but you're horrible for claiming that "biggest flop" point when you've graded nine other drivers lower than Perez yourself 😂
it took a while for perez to catch and pass lando
Didn’t perez have car set up problems this weekend though
De vries should get a 1 he was 20 secs behind Sargeant before the red flag
Just what id expect from someone who barely beat latifi in f2.
"Straight up fire from George" eh? Nice one Matt
Yeah I voted for Carlos for Driver of the Day right before K-Mag Crashed... Guess i jinxed it
How do you score 10/10 without finishing the race?
because the dnf wasnt in your control
@@ajanasokan3532 I understand it wasn't his fault, but a driver with a mechanical failure cannot score full marks in my opinion. To make matters worse he didn't even reach half distance.
8/10 would have been fair. 10/10 makes no sense, it wasn't like he was guaranteed to win the race even if he had finished the race.
I think Logan deserves a bit of leeway for missing two of three practice sessions this early into his F1 career.
There is just no excuse for the way he drove into back of Nyck's car.
Did he forget where the brake pedal was in his holiday away from free practice?