The queen of deep dives is back!! I loved all your insights. This is one of those books that I actively struggled with while in reading, but in hindsight I appreciate and adore it so much. Also, the chat that Derri's Read it Before recently posted with John from Talking Story about the Farseer trilogy gave me a whole new perspective on this book that made me admire it in an entirely new way. Definitely recommend giving that chat a watch/listen! Also, Nighteyes and Fitz are the best, I hope I ever find a love like they share 🤣😍
Agreed about certain parts being repetitive but I still loved it! Farseer was a wonderful reading experience but I think that the Liveship Traders and Tawny Man trilogies are among the best of fantasy 😊❤
I finished Realm of the Elderlings a few days ago, and this is probably the book I look forward to rereading the most because so much pays off from what Quest sets up. Its an oddity of the wider series and easily the weirdest paced of all. Ah Starling. As a character I like her, as a person not so much 😂 Slight correction, Fitz and Starling don't have a kid together but he adopts the child she found and very much views him as a son. I admit I didn't care for The White Prophet / Catalyst stuff initially but I really came around to it later in the series. The Fool ❤ One of my favourite characters in all of Fantasy (read and find out for more). You're gonna love Liveship Traders and Tawny Man.
Ah got it, I thought they had him together. Yeah I’m not really sure about The White Prophet aspects, it feels kinda tacked on at this point? Looking forward to seeing how it plays out though.
@bookswithzara I think its alluded to in Assassin's Apprentice while Fitz is reflecting on it as an older man and starts to be brought it up more in Royal Assassin but at that point I wasn't sure whether I trusted the Fool or not so I'm interested to see how I view it on a re-read. It does make much more sense and becomes more compelling in Tawny Man.
Not gonna lie, I have never laughed harder at a book in my life than at 36:15 the moment when Fitz was forced to see Burrich and Molly get together 😂😂 It was so over the top and comically cruel of the author to do that to her MC that I couldn't take the moment seriously lol. It took me out of the story because it just felt to me like such a forced moment of what I imagine Hobb being like, "what's the worst thing that I could do to Fitz?" and then making it happen 🤣🤣Don't get me wrong, Burrich is a 1,000 times better for Molly than Fitz could ever hope to be, and I'm glad she ended up with someone who loves her rather than the idea of her, but still, the way Hobb implemented it was not how I would have gone about it just because it seemed like hand of the author being cruel to MC just for the sake of being cruel.
I have also just finished reading Assassin’s Quest two days ago! Really can’t wait to get into the Liveship Traders trilogy as I heard amazing things about it, however, I’m taking a little break and gonna start reading The Spear Cuts Through water which I only picked up because of your high praise- then seeing other reviews that praised the book highly. Very excited to read it!
I’m rereading this trilogy and am almost done with Assassin’s Quest. I absolutely adore Hobb’s writing and character work. BTW - The illustrated anniversary additions have several colored drawings in each book, including one of the dragon statues. The Liveship Traders trilogy is just as good if not better. I’ll be surprised if you don’t love them.
I just finished re-reading the Farseer trilogy. OMG, I'd forgotten how horrible King Shrewd is! This guy is the worst and the way he treats Fitz is awful! He treats Fitz like a tool to be used up and discarded, like when he sends Fitz to be a living battery for Verity. He knows about the abuse that Regal, Galen, and their cronies heap onto Fitz and does nothing about it. He makes it clear, more than once, that if Fitz hadn't accepted their "bargain" (as if a ten-year-old boy had any real say in the matter), he would have had Fitz killed. It's strongly implied that Shrewd was in on Regal's plot to murder Ketricken's brother and was content to let Fitz serve as the fall guy. It's also implied that Shrewd used the Skill to mess with Fitz's head. Perhaps Fitz's "devotion" towards his king wasn't what he thought it was. In a way, Shrewd reminds me a lot of Christopher Plummer’s character from Knives Out. At first, he looks like this jolly old man who is a victim of his spoiled family. But then you think about it and it's like "Wait a minute. He raised these people!" Shrewd's eventual fate felt less like a tragedy and more like a case of karmic justice.
The queen of deep dives is back!! I loved all your insights. This is one of those books that I actively struggled with while in reading, but in hindsight I appreciate and adore it so much. Also, the chat that Derri's Read it Before recently posted with John from Talking Story about the Farseer trilogy gave me a whole new perspective on this book that made me admire it in an entirely new way. Definitely recommend giving that chat a watch/listen!
Also, Nighteyes and Fitz are the best, I hope I ever find a love like they share 🤣😍
Fitz and Nighteyes is what we all really should aspire to find haha. Totally agree!
I’ll definitely check it out, thanks for recommending it to me!
Agreed about certain parts being repetitive but I still loved it! Farseer was a wonderful reading experience but I think that the Liveship Traders and Tawny Man trilogies are among the best of fantasy 😊❤
Yeah it’s still fantastic! Can’t wait to get to Liveships soon.
I finished Realm of the Elderlings a few days ago, and this is probably the book I look forward to rereading the most because so much pays off from what Quest sets up. Its an oddity of the wider series and easily the weirdest paced of all.
Ah Starling. As a character I like her, as a person not so much 😂 Slight correction, Fitz and Starling don't have a kid together but he adopts the child she found and very much views him as a son.
I admit I didn't care for The White Prophet / Catalyst stuff initially but I really came around to it later in the series. The Fool ❤ One of my favourite characters in all of Fantasy (read and find out for more).
You're gonna love Liveship Traders and Tawny Man.
Ah got it, I thought they had him together. Yeah I’m not really sure about The White Prophet aspects, it feels kinda tacked on at this point? Looking forward to seeing how it plays out though.
@bookswithzara I think its alluded to in Assassin's Apprentice while Fitz is reflecting on it as an older man and starts to be brought it up more in Royal Assassin but at that point I wasn't sure whether I trusted the Fool or not so I'm interested to see how I view it on a re-read. It does make much more sense and becomes more compelling in Tawny Man.
Not gonna lie, I have never laughed harder at a book in my life than at 36:15 the moment when Fitz was forced to see Burrich and Molly get together 😂😂 It was so over the top and comically cruel of the author to do that to her MC that I couldn't take the moment seriously lol. It took me out of the story because it just felt to me like such a forced moment of what I imagine Hobb being like, "what's the worst thing that I could do to Fitz?" and then making it happen 🤣🤣Don't get me wrong, Burrich is a 1,000 times better for Molly than Fitz could ever hope to be, and I'm glad she ended up with someone who loves her rather than the idea of her, but still, the way Hobb implemented it was not how I would have gone about it just because it seemed like hand of the author being cruel to MC just for the sake of being cruel.
Yeah it did feel like a bit of a stretch lol. Cruel is the perfect word for it.
I have also just finished reading Assassin’s Quest two days ago! Really can’t wait to get into the Liveship Traders trilogy as I heard amazing things about it, however, I’m taking a little break and gonna start reading The Spear Cuts Through water which I only picked up because of your high praise- then seeing other reviews that praised the book highly. Very excited to read it!
Ohhh I hope you love Spear!!
@@bookswithzara me too ☺️☺️
I’m rereading this trilogy and am almost done with Assassin’s Quest. I absolutely adore Hobb’s writing and character work. BTW - The illustrated anniversary additions have several colored drawings in each book, including one of the dragon statues.
The Liveship Traders trilogy is just as good if not better. I’ll be surprised if you don’t love them.
Yeah she’s fantastic. I’m so excited for Liveships. I did read the illustrated editions for the first two but then I forgot for the third one 🤦🏽♀️
I just finished re-reading the Farseer trilogy. OMG, I'd forgotten how horrible King Shrewd is! This guy is the worst and the way he treats Fitz is awful!
He treats Fitz like a tool to be used up and discarded, like when he sends Fitz to be a living battery for Verity.
He knows about the abuse that Regal, Galen, and their cronies heap onto Fitz and does nothing about it.
He makes it clear, more than once, that if Fitz hadn't accepted their "bargain" (as if a ten-year-old boy had any real say in the matter), he would have had Fitz killed.
It's strongly implied that Shrewd was in on Regal's plot to murder Ketricken's brother and was content to let Fitz serve as the fall guy.
It's also implied that Shrewd used the Skill to mess with Fitz's head. Perhaps Fitz's "devotion" towards his king wasn't what he thought it was.
In a way, Shrewd reminds me a lot of Christopher Plummer’s character from Knives Out. At first, he looks like this jolly old man who is a victim of his spoiled family. But then you think about it and it's like "Wait a minute. He raised these people!" Shrewd's eventual fate felt less like a tragedy and more like a case of karmic justice.
Interesting, I didn’t pick up one some of these! Definitely makes me look at him completely differently.
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Trust your initial instincts about Starling 😉 The Fool is so many things. His own story line is crazy and wonderful.
Ohhh I’m intrigued.