I updated my fit since the video. o.smium.org/loadout/95792 This one is slightly cheaper, more dps, a little less dps tank (but more alpha tank). It does require a little more SP to be cap stable (but still below 25m SP)
[Rattlesnake, Ratting] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Ballistic Control System II Capacitor Flux Coil II Capacitor Flux Coil II 500MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive Large Micro Jump Drive Gist X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Pith B-Type Thermal Dissipation Field Pithum B-Type EM Ward Amplifier Pithum B-Type EM Ward Amplifier Imperial Navy Cap Recharger Cruise Missile Launcher II Cruise Missile Launcher II Cruise Missile Launcher II Cruise Missile Launcher II Cruise Missile Launcher II Drone Link Augmentor II Large Capacitor Control Circuit II Large Capacitor Control Circuit II Large Engine Thermal Shielding I Praetor II x2 Acolyte II x5 Curator II x4 Inferno Cruise Missile x10135
Would this be possible with a much less cap stable active fit? I use a fit with a Pith X XL booster and t2 extender rigs, but of course, have to pulse the booster when I need the reps. For reference, it can tank a Sansha Haven.
I imagine it would be. But Extender rigs are not a great choice if you are doing the active booster. They don't make your reps any more effective and really just give you extra shield hp to have to rep. Much better to do resist or even cap rigs. The 4th and 5th room are the only places where you have to run the booster for a long amount of time. So, if you could run it for long enough in those rooms, you should be fine.
Okay, after talking to a corpmate who recommended your fit verbatim, I'm pretty much using your modified fit as you posted it, except with one cap flux coil. Thanks for the help o7
I think 45 mins is about his best? Can confirm by asking him on Discord if in a hurry o7 I think the newer fit is just more fitting & maybe isk efficient?
Sorry, osmium is dead now! Here is the current fit: [Rattlesnake, Hi Mar5hy] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Gist B-Type 500MN Microwarpdrive Large Micro Jump Drive Pithum B-Type Medium Shield Booster Gist X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Gist X-Type EM Ward Field Gist X-Type Thermal Dissipation Field Gistum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier Cruise Missile Launcher II Cruise Missile Launcher II Cruise Missile Launcher II Cruise Missile Launcher II Cruise Missile Launcher II Drone Link Augmentor I Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Curator II x2 Inferno Fury Cruise Missile x135 If you are not cap stable (with mwd off) then swap a ballistic control for a flux coil
You are correct, Sansha are more vulnerable to EM damage. The reason I use Thermal Missiles is because the Rattlesnake (As well as the other Gurista's ships) get a 10% bonus damage to Thermal and Kinetic damage per level in battleship (maxing out at 50% extra). Thermal is the 2nd worst resist for Sansha, so it more than makes up for it. Great question.
I just recently started doing DED sites. My fit cost me about 1.6 billion ISK because of faction modules, I have perfect cruise skills and I'm using Gecko's with near perfect drone skills (5 year old character). The DED sites I am doing is Angel's. I have almost 90% damage resist from Explosive and Kinetic and a faction shield booster, about 1500 DPS. I am getting fucking slaughtered and I can't figure out why. my cruise missels cannot break their tank - I rely too heavily on my Gecko but it isn't killing things fast enough for myself to rep through all the damage I am taking.
Hey Justin, first off, you want to avoid using a Gecko in Angel space. Since Geckos do omni damage, most of their damage is shooting into really high resists for the rats. Switch over to 2x Berserkers. Also, You may want to look into range tanking, meaning you MJD away from the rats and use Bouncers (sentry drones) to pick rats off as they approach you. Send me a mail in game, Frankthebank Pay2Win, and i'll review the fit. Cheers!
I updated my fit since the video.
o.smium.org/loadout/95792
This one is slightly cheaper, more dps, a little less dps tank (but more alpha tank). It does require a little more SP to be cap stable (but still below 25m SP)
[Rattlesnake, Ratting]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Ballistic Control System II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
500MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Large Micro Jump Drive
Gist X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier
Pith B-Type Thermal Dissipation Field
Pithum B-Type EM Ward Amplifier
Pithum B-Type EM Ward Amplifier
Imperial Navy Cap Recharger
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Engine Thermal Shielding I
Praetor II x2
Acolyte II x5
Curator II x4
Inferno Cruise Missile x10135
T1 thermal shield rig fits, adds 130dps to tank
When I use sentry drones i will orbit the central on at 1000. Gives me transversal to reduce incoming dps
Not a bad idea. Just unnecessary.
Would this be possible with a much less cap stable active fit? I use a fit with a Pith X XL booster and t2 extender rigs, but of course, have to pulse the booster when I need the reps. For reference, it can tank a Sansha Haven.
I imagine it would be. But Extender rigs are not a great choice if you are doing the active booster. They don't make your reps any more effective and really just give you extra shield hp to have to rep. Much better to do resist or even cap rigs. The 4th and 5th room are the only places where you have to run the booster for a long amount of time. So, if you could run it for long enough in those rooms, you should be fine.
Okay, after talking to a corpmate who recommended your fit verbatim, I'm pretty much using your modified fit as you posted it, except with one cap flux coil. Thanks for the help o7
Awesome! o7
EM resist to the missing rig slot will save you one med slot as you might get rid of one EM resist. Good job in 10/10
so how long does it take on the new fit to finish the ded?
I think 45 mins is about his best? Can confirm by asking him on Discord if in a hurry o7
I think the newer fit is just more fitting & maybe isk efficient?
Link for fit is broken
Sorry, osmium is dead now! Here is the current fit:
[Rattlesnake, Hi Mar5hy]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Gist B-Type 500MN Microwarpdrive
Large Micro Jump Drive
Pithum B-Type Medium Shield Booster
Gist X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier
Gist X-Type EM Ward Field
Gist X-Type Thermal Dissipation Field
Gistum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Drone Link Augmentor I
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Curator II x2
Inferno Fury Cruise Missile x135
If you are not cap stable (with mwd off) then swap a ballistic control for a flux coil
Would this still be viable and also capable of doing Sanctums and Havens easily?
Viable yes. Different fit for anom ratting, tag @hesfet on Discord in eve chat for fit :)
I would very much like to see a anom fit rattlesnake aswell
Newbro question: Aren't Sansha rats more vulnerable to EM damage than thermal? Why choose Inferno Missiles over Mjolnir?
You are correct, Sansha are more vulnerable to EM damage. The reason I use Thermal Missiles is because the Rattlesnake (As well as the other Gurista's ships) get a 10% bonus damage to Thermal and Kinetic damage per level in battleship (maxing out at 50% extra). Thermal is the 2nd worst resist for Sansha, so it more than makes up for it.
Great question.
Oooooh, I guess it would help to read ships' attributes and descriptions, huh? :-P
Don't you worry about traveling to the sites? Seems far less safe than a t3 you could travel cloaky/nullified in and refit no?
That's what the Tengu is for. Rattle is for when you have them 1-2 jumps from 'home'. If paying attention to intel, not bad at all.
Ah ok cool
I just recently started doing DED sites. My fit cost me about 1.6 billion ISK because of faction modules, I have perfect cruise skills and I'm using Gecko's with near perfect drone skills (5 year old character). The DED sites I am doing is Angel's. I have almost 90% damage resist from Explosive and Kinetic and a faction shield booster, about 1500 DPS.
I am getting fucking slaughtered and I can't figure out why. my cruise missels cannot break their tank - I rely too heavily on my Gecko but it isn't killing things fast enough for myself to rep through all the damage I am taking.
Hey Justin, first off, you want to avoid using a Gecko in Angel space. Since Geckos do omni damage, most of their damage is shooting into really high resists for the rats. Switch over to 2x Berserkers. Also, You may want to look into range tanking, meaning you MJD away from the rats and use Bouncers (sentry drones) to pick rats off as they approach you.
Send me a mail in game, Frankthebank Pay2Win, and i'll review the fit.
Cheers!
Pulgares arriba ps.
FRANK U MUST FLY VNIS NOT RATTLES DAMN IT :@@