I love that you are not all about killing strava times and getting KOMs. Rather, you enjoy the technical aspects of mountain biking, overcoming challenges, and just having fun. It's amazing how dynamic one can be on the bike. Thanks for sharing your skills and techniques with us commoners.
Spot on jeff. You think about dirt bikes and how the riders feet are positioned on the pegs and move accordingly, but they always are the at the point of the Base of Support (BoS) from the hips down through the legs to the ankles and feet. 👍
Jeff, you just blew my mind! Holy sheeeeet! I've been working my butt of on all the technical stuff I can ride and I'm not good at it but I refuse to quit trying. And one of three things I was DEFINITELY missing is this push technique! Because I pedal on lots of stuff and do sometimes have a pedal strike. I have learned that momentum is my friend and I've gotten much better at using it in subtle ways and I've definitely improved my riding a lot this year. But this video right here was a piece I was still missing so THANK YOU SOOOOO MUCH!!!!!
a peddle stroke and a pull and push. pull as you do peddle stroke to put weight on back tire to get front over, then push to shift weight forward to get back tire up and over.
What fixed that for me was riding a pancake flat school parking lot. I start with a foot push and zero pedaling, weave back and forth while pumping and try to make it all the way across with 3 islands to hop over. The first time I made it less than a third of the way. Now I can build speed all the way to the end, turn, and ride it back the other way. I do the same on all my local trails.
Nice video Jeff. I like the explanation of the thrust covering more distance than the low-gear pedal stroke. It's intuitive, but I never actually thought of it that way.
In the dirt bike world we call it weighting and de-weighting but pretty much same thing. Although a lot easier to get the feedback on a bicycle vs 250 lb enduro bike.
Love this info. Ive always been a lazy rider and this is something that I figured out back in the mid 90's when I got into the hobby. Thanks for sharing.
I've noticed that even on flatter (but bumpy) terrain pumping the bike is actually faster than pedaling. The rear suspension stiffens up when you pedal and you'll feel the small hits. It's just smoother with pumping and you'll carry the speed easily. Awesome tips as always!
Awesome video sir! I like your thought process behind enjoying the ride. I’m new to mountain biking this year but I enjoy these training videos. Ive been a trail runner for about 20 years and I’m sort of the same way when it comes to trail running, I tell people you have to enjoy the run and use every “obstacle“ to your advantage to create momentum going up or down the trails. If your not having fun then why even do it…
Jeff’s tips about ‘stomping’ the bike into the ground to pre-load it is interesting to think about at the system level. If riders tend to like to run the lightest tires possible for general trail riding, because ‘lightest and fastest-rolling’, the ‘stomping’ technique will pose challenges to the tires in terms or puncture risk. When a setup is too light for the terrain, you can’t really put all the energy you might want to into the wheels without risking damage. So you might be limited to less dynamic riding, which is actually slower. So too-light tires can limit progression.
Oh man... for 30 years I've tried to explain to some of my friends how I get through technical terrain. From now on I'll just send them this video. Maybe it's from the BMX "suburban-assault" riding I did as a kid, but this is just sort of instinctual to me - I do it without really thinking about it.
Yes I had a similar thought. I do this stuff , but never really thought it through methodically where I could explain it. A lot of riding is like that where you learn from doing and may not even realize exactly what you're doing haha.
This is gold I’ve been studying this aspect for years but I feel like ppl don’t do this out of laziness, compounded by the concept of needing batteries to get the bike over terrain.
Great, another reason for "real" mountain "bikers" not to pedal....lets face it most are fat lazy assed wannabees that just drive to their chosen location, walk their bike uphill and freewheel back down. Just remove the pedals and get pegs ffs....or get over your over inflated ego and get one with a battery and go have some fun going up the really steep stuff....😂
Great Video! I apply these to my riding already. I've heard that manipulating the rear wheel is also helpful, but am not sure in what applications to do this and how to do it? Also, is it necessary? Thanks
Great video! Since I'm an BK amputee I can only pedal while seated and sometimes this is not helpful while approaching uphills and uphill obstacles. Am I missing out on some of the benefits by having only a hardtail bike? (Scott Scale 940 carbon)
I still think "Stop using the rear brake" is a great way to make a rider better... Get them to ride their favourite run... no rear brakes... You're forced to brake coming up to a corner, not as they turn through it. You use less/no brakes in a turn so you're forced to get the speed right for a corner Before entering it... You discover that going down steep parts can be done with only front brakes and that that front wheel is actually quite stable under brakes... You learn to look for the safe "landing zone" beyond the obstacle rather than trying to brake through the obstacle.. .Instead rolling through to the safe zone where you do the braking.. (just watch how many noobs bail on a tricky short slope... that had an entire football field to stop in if they only just rolled through without touching the brakes. You learn how to load the front wheel under braking where the rear brakes can actually make the front lighter (as your applying less/no front brakes) making the front more washy... You discover you can turn in a corner with a bit of front brakes without the bike wanting to sit up (as the rear brakes make you do)... You discover loosing the front.. can be saved by the trailriders stomp... but if you do wipe out it's on the low side of the bike.. rear braking can lead to a highside or just going straight ahead.
@@JeffLenoskyTrailBoss I so much want someone to do one of their fill-ins on running their test tracks with no rear brakes until they get quick.. then go back to both brakes and see if it made an improvement... Personally I already did it in the 90's when My Yamaha IT200 Enduro bike had useless drum brakes on the rear that would fail 30 mins into any ride... so I got to the point where i was up on the front into corners braking so hard on front only... Course a (non E) MTB doesn't have the accelerator to throttle through the corner... but it still took me a lot of time to get my speed cornering back up to the IT200's when I had a YZ250 with twice the HP...
Definitely not I spent years riding mountain bike trails on flat pedals edad real Tech trails are usually ride flats so I bump around back-and-forth check out some of the videos on my page about doing the “Punch“ it might help it explain it a little better for you
Must say Trail boss you have never been to ride in australia all mtb trails in aus are flat as ff ha ha its not really funny its sad there is no uphill tech anywere . Love you vids i,m of to pedal everywere 😁😁✌👍
Yo mofo's it's all in the mind: Try to go fast? You'll corner like an idiot and end up on bad lines, getting gassed out on top of it. It's when you are chill, relaxed and riding smoothly & enjoying yourself - that you really go fast. If fast is important, which it's not. But speed makes riding more fun because it pulls you further from our planets churning core's gravity allowing you live through the sensation of flight and freedom, just fyi. also, how do you become smooth on your bike? Start riding more, spend less time on youtube or doing tragic mundane idiotic chores in your freetime, save that for evening's where you're not riding anyhow. thank you and goodbye
I love that you are not all about killing strava times and getting KOMs. Rather, you enjoy the technical aspects of mountain biking, overcoming challenges, and just having fun. It's amazing how dynamic one can be on the bike. Thanks for sharing your skills and techniques with us commoners.
Thank you! I'm just a dude riding his bike just like anyone else, no hierarchy here
its a philosophy man, when you can find equal/more joy in riding uphill than downhill it changes the game
Exactly. And that is what In time will better people's time if they use Strava for motivation.
@@stevensimpson9880 I love hill clubs and I ride an Enduro style salsa Cassidy. Not the easiest
The one thing that made me a better rider this season….deleting Strava
Like a bunny hop without taking off. You load into the surface so you are lighter back on top
Man those Reeb bikes look good.
Thx
Congratulations on reaching 100k subs! Well deserved. I was in at 40k and nobody has helped my riding as much as you.
Thank you for sticking around
Thanks Jeff!
Spot on jeff. You think about dirt bikes and how the riders feet are positioned on the pegs and move accordingly, but they always are the at the point of the Base of Support (BoS) from the hips down through the legs to the ankles and feet. 👍
This is outstanding! The way you have analyzed and explained all of this is something I have never seen anywhere else.
Great video. Really important stuff to use the trail to your advantage
Jeff, you just blew my mind! Holy sheeeeet! I've been working my butt of on all the technical stuff I can ride and I'm not good at it but I refuse to quit trying. And one of three things I was DEFINITELY missing is this push technique! Because I pedal on lots of stuff and do sometimes have a pedal strike. I have learned that momentum is my friend and I've gotten much better at using it in subtle ways and I've definitely improved my riding a lot this year. But this video right here was a piece I was still missing so THANK YOU SOOOOO MUCH!!!!!
This video was my usual video making frustrating shit show and that one comment made it all worth it!
Many people ride very high quality bikes so this is great advice. Allowing for better use of your body and bicycle as one
a peddle stroke and a pull and push. pull as you do peddle stroke to put weight on back tire to get front over, then push to shift weight forward to get back tire up and over.
Your video clips showing relevant examples are very illuminating for me. thanks
What fixed that for me was riding a pancake flat school parking lot. I start with a foot push and zero pedaling, weave back and forth while pumping and try to make it all the way across with 3 islands to hop over. The first time I made it less than a third of the way. Now I can build speed all the way to the end, turn, and ride it back the other way. I do the same on all my local trails.
That's an AWESOME drill! I'll be in RVA Mon-Wed after the clinics, lets ride!
@@JeffLenoskyTrailBoss Sounds good. I've got use or lose vacation to schedule. Will be nice to ride there once when it's not 95 degrees.
Nice video Jeff. I like the explanation of the thrust covering more distance than the low-gear pedal stroke. It's intuitive, but I never actually thought of it that way.
In the dirt bike world we call it weighting and de-weighting but pretty much same thing. Although a lot easier to get the feedback on a bicycle vs 250 lb enduro bike.
This is very helpful. I ride at the trexler national preserve and I see people who pedal more than they need to
Also you look trimmed up! Looking good! :)
Excellent! Thanks!
Love this info. Ive always been a lazy rider and this is something that I figured out back in the mid 90's when I got into the hobby. Thanks for sharing.
You are the best UA-cam techniques instructor. Thanks.
Thank you!
Awesome video I have a buddy who just started riding that needs this🔥
Thank you
this is a very helpful video. Gonna go try this out on this one step up on a hill that I've only done one time and that was a lotta luck. Thanks!
I've noticed that even on flatter (but bumpy) terrain pumping the bike is actually faster than pedaling. The rear suspension stiffens up when you pedal and you'll feel the small hits. It's just smoother with pumping and you'll carry the speed easily. Awesome tips as always!
Exactly.
So helpful thank you!
great tip!...more like this please!
Thank you, Jeff! Your video so informative and well explained. I immediately realized all the things I can improve.
This was great, picked up a few new ideas for stuff around me!
Jeff, thanks sharing these tips! Great presentation.
Awesome video sir! I like your thought process behind enjoying the ride. I’m new to mountain biking this year but I enjoy these training videos. Ive been a trail runner for about 20 years and I’m sort of the same way when it comes to trail running, I tell people you have to enjoy the run and use every “obstacle“ to your advantage to create momentum going up or down the trails. If your not having fun then why even do it…
Mustache required? 👊🏼 Seriously though, great tip. Congrats on 100k amigo.
Great information Jeff. Definitely will try it out. Thanks.
Can't wait to try this new perspective on the pump track. Love your videos and explanations.
underrated quote "Learn to pedal the bike as little as you need to"
Happy to see him every time he comes to Florida (Carter rd.)
Can't Wait to get back!
Congrats on the 100k Jeff!
Excellent content. Thank you, Jeff!
I need to get in shape. I think I'm going to schedule that coaching session. Right now, the video is wearing me out
Let’s do it!
Thanks Jeff
Jeff’s tips about ‘stomping’ the bike into the ground to pre-load it is interesting to think about at the system level. If riders tend to like to run the lightest tires possible for general trail riding, because ‘lightest and fastest-rolling’, the ‘stomping’ technique will pose challenges to the tires in terms or puncture risk. When a setup is too light for the terrain, you can’t really put all the energy you might want to into the wheels without risking damage. So you might be limited to less dynamic riding, which is actually slower. So too-light tires can limit progression.
great point!
well explained, cheers
Oh man... for 30 years I've tried to explain to some of my friends how I get through technical terrain. From now on I'll just send them this video. Maybe it's from the BMX "suburban-assault" riding I did as a kid, but this is just sort of instinctual to me - I do it without really thinking about it.
100 percent.
Yes I had a similar thought. I do this stuff , but never really thought it through methodically where I could explain it. A lot of riding is like that where you learn from doing and may not even realize exactly what you're doing haha.
This is gold I’ve been studying this aspect for years but I feel like ppl don’t do this out of laziness, compounded by the concept of needing batteries to get the bike over terrain.
Great, another reason for "real" mountain "bikers" not to pedal....lets face it most are fat lazy assed wannabees that just drive to their chosen location, walk their bike uphill and freewheel back down. Just remove the pedals and get pegs ffs....or get over your over inflated ego and get one with a battery and go have some fun going up the really steep stuff....😂
I learned exactly the same thing on my own just riding
Awesome!
Great Video! I apply these to my riding already.
I've heard that manipulating the rear wheel is also helpful, but am not sure in what applications to do this and how to do it? Also, is it necessary? Thanks
Very good tips, thanks! 👍
Trailboss closing in on 100 K! Go Jeff!
Hit it tonight! Thank YOU!
Great information!
¡Absolutamente genial! Pequeños detalles que suponen grandes avances en la ruta. ¡Muchas gracias, Jeff!
Super helpful tips! 👍👍
Great video! Since I'm an BK amputee I can only pedal while seated and sometimes this is not helpful while approaching uphills and uphill obstacles. Am I missing out on some of the benefits by having only a hardtail bike? (Scott Scale 940 carbon)
I think a suspension bike is gonna be your best bet!
ok thanks for the advice! I will give one a try! @@JeffLenoskyTrailBoss
Amazing content always helpful 🎉❤
No pedal challenges are the best!
Agreed
Great info thanks
Thanks for the advice 🥂
This is the video I need. ❤
I still think "Stop using the rear brake" is a great way to make a rider better... Get them to ride their favourite run... no rear brakes...
You're forced to brake coming up to a corner, not as they turn through it.
You use less/no brakes in a turn so you're forced to get the speed right for a corner Before entering it...
You discover that going down steep parts can be done with only front brakes and that that front wheel is actually quite stable under brakes...
You learn to look for the safe "landing zone" beyond the obstacle rather than trying to brake through the obstacle.. .Instead rolling through to the safe zone where you do the braking..
(just watch how many noobs bail on a tricky short slope... that had an entire football field to stop in if they only just rolled through without touching the brakes.
You learn how to load the front wheel under braking where the rear brakes can actually make the front lighter (as your applying less/no front brakes) making the front more washy...
You discover you can turn in a corner with a bit of front brakes without the bike wanting to sit up (as the rear brakes make you do)...
You discover loosing the front.. can be saved by the trailriders stomp... but if you do wipe out it's on the low side of the bike.. rear braking can lead to a highside or just going straight ahead.
Great points!
@@JeffLenoskyTrailBoss I so much want someone to do one of their fill-ins on running their test tracks with no rear brakes until they get quick.. then go back to both brakes and see if it made an improvement...
Personally I already did it in the 90's when My Yamaha IT200 Enduro bike had useless drum brakes on the rear that would fail 30 mins into any ride... so I got to the point where i was up on the front into corners braking so hard on front only...
Course a (non E) MTB doesn't have the accelerator to throttle through the corner... but it still took me a lot of time to get my speed cornering back up to the IT200's when I had a YZ250 with twice the HP...
Very helpful
that's a good one
The single thing that has made my old butt faster is learning to pump on the trail.
really nice video - thanks! curious what the trail location is at 3:30?
That is the Hyamasa Climb in Moab.
incredible looking bit of environment!@@JeffLenoskyTrailBoss
I noticed you have clipless pedals. Some of your tips seem to require them, right? Like lifting the rear wheel over an object?
Definitely not I spent years riding mountain bike trails on flat pedals edad real Tech trails are usually ride flats so I bump around back-and-forth check out some of the videos on my page about doing the “Punch“ it might help it explain it a little better for you
That technique requires lot of core power too
Nice
my name is a JEFF!
a dirt jumper on a pump track works wonders after just a few weeks... a DJ doesn't lie but it teaches !!!!
Must say Trail boss you have never been to ride in australia all mtb trails in aus are flat as ff ha ha its not really funny its sad there is no uphill tech anywere . Love you vids i,m of to pedal everywere 😁😁✌👍
Hi Jeff, great content, but please invest in a mic, it's hard to hear you.
I have one! A good one too! I just botched the audio
Sounded pretty good to me, and my hearing is not the best! Thanks for the video!
Yo mofo's it's all in the mind:
Try to go fast? You'll corner like an idiot and end up on bad lines, getting gassed out on top of it.
It's when you are chill, relaxed and riding smoothly & enjoying yourself - that you really go fast.
If fast is important, which it's not.
But speed makes riding more fun because it pulls you further from our planets churning core's gravity allowing you live through the sensation of flight and freedom,
just fyi.
also, how do you become smooth on your bike? Start riding more, spend less time on youtube or doing tragic mundane idiotic chores in your freetime, save that for evening's where you're not riding anyhow.
thank you and goodbye
No pedaling? How about the no breathing challenge?
😅🤣😂
I save that for gap jumps. Not that it adds any distance.
Ooof. That sounds tough
One tip: ride a steel bike 😀
Want to learn about maintaining momentum? Get a single speed.
Absolutely!
Go for a walk
im trying to ride my bike not hop everywhere like a trials rider. 90 percent of riders arent going up 90 degree slope faces.
@@tbull1545 I hop In a lot of videos but this video is specifically about not pedaling!