Thursday NEW Captain Boot Review - The Ultimate Unvarnished Breakdown!
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- Опубліковано 23 вер 2023
- Unboxing and review of Thursday Captain boots on their new Kingmaker last in Tobacco Rugged & Resilient leather with StormKing lug soles, plus comparisons to Captains on the old True last.
"Disclaimer": We are aware that we may make some people unhappy ☹ with this video, but our goal in creating this channel is to promote only knowledge and insight, and leave the ultimate choice up to our audience. We hope this review / babble is helpful for someone out there!
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TIMESTAMPS:
1:06 Unboxing
2:16 Shoe details
6:41 Loose grain
7:53 Hide demo
12:26 Weight
14:50 Last comparisons
18:03 Collection options
20:29 Fit comparisons
21:58 Final sizing advice
22:26 Pros & cons
28:17 "Starter boot" rant
33:41 Overall impressions
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Well I have five pairs of Thursday Boots and I love the ones I have not everyone have $700 or more to spend on boots. Thursdays have positioned themselves at a great price range nice looking and affordable .
Totally a valid point, and I do agree that Thursdays are the right boots for a lot of people out there. My wife loves her Thursdays, and I think she’s actually going to review hers soon on the channel.
@@BabblingBootsReviewsna ur fair for calling out QC
Way over hyped.
Very good and detailed review! Thank you!
Excellent review, thanks!
Excellent review. Thanks a zillion.
Great review! The Captain Whiskeys have been shipped and based on your review I’m I’ll like them!
Let me know what you think after!
First honest review on this brand I've seen about this brand.
Thanks for the video and your honest thoughts! Personally I have the Thursday Chrome Captains and I love them. The cork inside has molded to my feet and they feel like they lock into place now. Also the leather has developed a nice depth of color. With THAT said, while I’ll probably pay to have them recrafted when the time comes they’ve definitely made me want to upgrade to Iron Rangers someday and I’ll be putting away a few dollars here and there to do so.
I totally get that. My wife and other family members actually all love their Thursdays; I think it just didn’t hit my personal needs and priorities. Iron Rangers would be a great upgrade! (Let me know what you think if you do get them in the future.)
Hey there i recently purchased a casa moto pair its the motorcycle type of boot that they sell and I really have had no issues i think the grain break you see might just be a design flaw like something that happened during packaging because when i recieved my boots they were perfect and untouched.
I bought my first pair of Thursdays a few weeks ago. I own both Alden and Allen Edmonds boots so I’m familiar with a more traditional footbed. The footbed technology in Thursdays is very strange underfoot…it’s so soft it feels like you’re walking in sand. Very comfortable but the power delivery feels inefficient. I’m guessing that is why so many people complain about them feeling heavy…they feel a little dead on your feet.
That's a good point! It does kind of feel like your foot is sinking into the ground when you step. Not much springiness when you're walking like leather provides.
By far the most educational, level headed, valuable boot review yet. Txs greatly this was excellent.
Thank you so much! Really appreciate that.
Great review! I recently bought 2 pairs of Grant Stone after starting with a Thursday captain, and I’d agree with your sentiment on them feeling a bit more like a sneaker, but they still did break in nicely and the Thursdays are now even more comfortable than when I bought them probably due to the cork filling molding to my foot more. My biggest annoyance so far has been the tongue slipping to one side on my Thursdays. I do also doubt they will last as long as my Grant Stones.
Do you recommend the Thursday rugged and resilient as a bad weather boot? I’m a bit worried about wearing my grant stones in rain or snow. I know they should hold up, but wondering if it is worth getting a pair of rugged captains just for bad weather.
I think Thursday Captains are great for bad weather (snow/rain). Those are my go to boots for bad weather just because, like you, I don't like to get my nicer boots soaked in water. I believe their rugged and resilient leather is even more water repellant than their standard Thursday Chrome leather so I think they would be a great option!
I didn't like the old last because it didn't look anatomical, like they didn't know what they were doing when the made it - it's symmetrical like they ignored the natural shape of a human foot. I have some Italian boots that have a very anatomical shape that's slim but very supportive. The italian boots are much more asymmetrical but still slimmer than the Thursday. A good last is art. A good last is based on an unladen foot. Most American and British boots construct a last based on the foot sitting weighted on the ground. But here's the trick, a good european last is based on a relaxed/unladen foot and is therefore much more comfortable and supportive.
Finally! An intelligent and honest Thurdays boot review! Thank you! I could not have said it better. Totally agree with a resole being nonsensical. They should make the insole removable/ replaceable at that point. The collapsed insole just doesnt make sense at that point. Or drop the gyw all together and price them $149-189. Also, the husk comparison, im stealing that, perfect description.
Agreed! At least give people the ability to remove the insole and put in their own leather one. You could probably get a lot more wear out of the boots if they did that. Then I could actually see more practicality in buying them and resoling them.
I’ll tell you what I don’t know how they feel but those boots look beautiful
The "Boot Husk" remark was totally epic😂. I believe that should forever be Thursday's boot catch phrase. Lol. Great video 👍
lolol that was indeed iconic 😂
Every pair I bought on Amazon had this same grain break. I purchased 4 pairs before I gave up. Also, the leather felt significantly worse quality than the tobacco storm kings I bought two years ago. Wanted to see if I could use the kingmaker as I was so excited about the wider foot.
Oh that's very interesting, I figured this was just a one-off mistake pair that slipped through QC. Thanks for the insight! Good to know that if I tried exchanging these then I'd probably just have the same issue with the next pair... Guess I'll just return these and stick to my older captains when I'm wearing Thursdays.
@@BabblingBootsReviewsIs nothing quality anymore these days? Fuck
I just subscribed. Your review is very refreshing. I love the honesty and thoughtfulness.
Thanks so much! Glad the thoughtfulness comes through and not just a 30+ minute rant haha
I like everything your saying, and I found your video on accident as I just bought matt black stormking legends from thursday and was research a beater brown boot I need. I think between your video and the conversations in the comment section I've learned a lot. I didn't even know Thursday Boots had lower quality internal components that wear worse over time so that was eye opening. One thing is I have bigger feet and I wear a US men's 14 so they're one of the few companies that accommodate my shoe size, which is ironically one benefit of their commercial design process. Any recommendations from a brand perspective or otherwise for my feet size 14 and a possible versatile brown beater?
That's a good point about the larger sizes Thursday offers, harder to find those options with small companies. If you are looking for another company that could offer a size 14 boot then I would suggest looking at White's boots. You can send them your foot measurements and they will actually make boots specifically for your foot size. They aren't cheap boots by any means but they are built like tanks and can definitely take a beating. (If you wait until their annual father's day sale then you can get their custom made boots for around $500 dollars)
@@BabblingBootsReviews thank you brotha, appreciate it!
Good point about the small batches thing! I love listening to boot babble.
Haha thanks! The video got a bit long but hopefully it has some helpful info
Ok i hear you, good review, but whats the best shoe for $270? Because I cant seem to find any of these grant stones or Oaks street for this price?
For $270 I would say Meermin boots are a very solid option, especially the Negon model they released late last year (it's all natural components, no foam fillers). If you don't like Meermin then I think picking up a pair of Grant Stones on sale is another option. They usually have a few pairs of boots on sale at any given time. It might not be $270 but it will be close! Probably around $282.
Thanks man. This is the review I was looking for. I will pass on these. I was hype for them but thank you for being honest..
I think they are perfectly okay boots for someone who isn’t necessarily concerned about longevity and internal components but if that’s important to you then I’d definitely recommend looking else. Grant Stone, Parkhurst and Oak Street Boots are all superior quality for about $75-100 more. You can find them lightly worn on eBay for the same price as Thursday as well if money is a big concern.
I own two pairs of Thursdays, Captain and the diplomat. For the price, honestly it’s a well made boot. I just wish the tongue was gusseted lol.
Yeah the Thursday's captain boot tongue is really annoying. My grant stone's cap toe boots aren't gussetted either but they don't move around nearly as much as the Thursday captains.
7:19 As you can tell these are B grade or lower buffed full grain hides. Not to say they are terrible. But they arent the Prime Choice rib.... Awesome Professor teaching moment ;). Also what this tells me is how lazy these companies are for the heal counters. Which these belly portions enclosed in leather are perfectly fine...
Yeah they are probably B grade hides, which I guess is understandable for a $200 boot. At the same time though they are claiming they make no compromises on quality, which they clearly do... On the Thursday website they say their hides come from Tier 1 USA cattle, which I believe is how the USDA grades cattle for meat... not leather lol.
I noticed the tongue of Thursday captains steering to one side often
Yeah that's the risk with boots that don't have a gusseted tongue unfortunately
I want to see Thursday invest in their leathers. And do a Logger boot built to standards. More work and investment but with their scale they have an opportunity..
They have a logger. It is a urban logger. They are a heritage brand. Which is just a fashion brand. They do not have to create a real work boot because that's not what they do. If you want certified work boots look elsewhere.
@@joe_ferreira I think they exist in sort of a weird market which as some specific benefits but also some downsides.
They definitely are on the fashionable side of things and I wouldn't really consider Thursday's comparable to the equivalent work-brand boots in many ways. As an example, I wouldn't consider the Loggers to be a replacement for a Thorogood Crazyhorse or a Danner Logger/Quarry (let alone a more PNW brand like Whites or Nicks that are in a different price point entirely), but they also aren't really trying to be.
The thing I like about my pair of Thursdays is that I can wear them to the office part of my job without it looking like I just came out of the mine (like when I wear my beat up Danner Quarry's which I love to death but they aren't really office appropriate). At the same time, if I do need to need to go to the field mid-day, I don't really need to worry too much about them.
@@ryanh7167 exactly. As an example, I wouldn't ask Alden or Allen Edmonds to create a work boot. 😁
Thoughts on Grant Stone ? Cheers...
I actually have a video specifically on Grant Stones if you're interested! ua-cam.com/video/s3xd9dD0650/v-deo.htmlsi=_PW2nNwwZQBZzcDK But overall I think it's an excellent brand for the price. It is easily on par with Aldens in quality for nearly half the price.
So you’re saying is a good year welt but is glued together cemented ? That doesn’t make sense ?
It is Goodyear welted through the midsole and then the rubber outsole is cemented on.
@@BabblingBootsReviews okay I get that makes sense to me now what you were saying
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I’m so intrigued; why get a pair of boots you only wear on Thursdays?
Neither my Red Wings nor my Thursdays are what I'd consider comfortable, unfortunately. Freakishly hard underfoot. I think I have learned that I am not a boot nerd. My workboots are fine (SS 2.0 and Thorogood Moc) but the heritage style boots, not so much. I want to love them but so far, I just don't. I still need to try a higher end heritage moc toe before throwing in the towel.
Yeah if you're goal is to find a boot that is super comfortable under your feet then I'd definitely try out something with a thick wedge sole, which a lost of high end moc toe boots have.
@@BabblingBootsReviews Any recommendations because my 10875 isn't it.
You could check out Grant Stone or Truman options, since those tend to have thicker wedge soles. Good luck!
Don't think it was ever marketed as a heritage boot. Its an everyday city boot for people who want a decent boot that looks good. The boot's shape is more dressy than work boots for petes sake. That ought to tell you who it is targeted to.
Thursday Captains are compared to Iron Rangers and Wolverine 1000 miles, more than any other boots on the market, both of which are heritage boots. It is a comparison that is super commonly made, which is why I refute it.
I agree these aren’t made for people who want to be booters…they r for people who want to casually to slightly more dress up and still have a decent quality nice looking boot.
Those other boots r for hardcore boot fans
I agree with what you said about Thursday's being a bad first boot and didn't scratch the itch for you. my first pair of GYWED boots were the Captain's in Black cxl, the classic, then 2nd one was the Arizona Adobe Captains, then the Loggers in Cacao, then finally the Cavs in shadow grey suede last year. The beginning of this year I transitioned over to Grant Stone's and I have purchased 5 pairs since the beginning of 2023 and I wished that I never bought the Thursday Captain's. I had to exchange the Arizona Adobe's for the Cavs because the tongue was not gussetted and kept falling towards the toe box and it looked ugly and kept giving me a foot wedgie every time I wore them. I didn't have to pay for the exchange and I got them as an even exchange. Now the Cav's are nice but they are too sharp in the toe box and super dressy looking so I haven't worn them causally yet. My GS's on the other hand I wear every day. They are better than Alden's but are below Viberg's imo. My first pair of GS were the Crimson CXL Ottawa's and I loved them so much I bought the Dune CXL Diesel's, the black CXL Diesel's with the leather sole, then the black cxl Ottawa's, and finally the Midnight suede Ottawa's during their labor day sale. I liked the MN suede boots a lot and had to get them for $230 because of the extra 20% off sale during Labor Day. And I really love the way the Ottawa's look. What initially brought me to GS was the fact I really like the Alden Tanker's but I was not going to drop $700 on a pair of boots and I found GS's Ottawa's almost by accident and have loved them since. The Ottawa's and the Tanker's look almost identical to me and blue is my favorite color. I didn't buy the MN Suede Ottawa's at first because I thought that they were going to be hard to pair with outfits but that's not the case.
Exactly! I really can't justify spending $200 dollars on Thursday boots when you can get Grant Stones for a little bit more money and much better quality. I really only have Thursdays as my beater boots and poor weather boots. If it is snowy with salt on sidewalks then I will put them on.
Foot wedgies 😆🤣
Holy fuck dude is ur space/enter bar broken?
Worth noting that this boot does have a leather midsole
I found different sources saying different things for the midsole. Their website lists it as a 'cork-bed midsole' so I went with that to be as official as possible.
There is a leather midsole. Rose anvil cut these in half and this proves it. There's quite a lot of natural material considering the price, it's not exactly built like a sneaker. I think the review was a bit on the unfair side, albeit still a solid review nonetheless. Certainly unbiased.
@@danielsevell5732 This is a bit misleading. Thursday actually have two variations of the captain and even the presidents. If you get a rugged and resilient leather, all of the things you said are true they have a leather midsole and a steel shank. However, many of the classic leathers actually have a EVA foam midsole and no steel shank. At least in the past, I can verify this is true since I’ve watched several videos of cobblers taking apart boots and verifying that some of them particularly with the classic leathers have a EVA midsole and I didn’t see any steel shank.
When you wear a pair long enough to have it re soled then you can review them
I ordered those in whiskey yesterday, for casual everyday use, i was going to get some Cat/timberland/wolverine 6" soft toe workboots for 100-150 bucks, but the quality control issues on those made me reconsider. Going over 200 bucks was and is out of question, if i can get 3-4 years out of them with basic maintenance thats a pretty solid value proposition in my mind.
I dont believe they are trying to be better than real boots, i believe they are trying to be better than the made in china fashion boots in the 150-300$ segment, Ralph Lauren, Gant, Hugo Boss, Tommy Hilfiger etc.
Was i a retard?, i just thought they would have a higher chance of lasting a few years than some wolverine floorhand's for walking around town?
No, I think you made the right choice! If going over $200 is out of the question for you then this is the best option, aside from buying some higher quality used/second hand boots on Ebay or Grailed. I think higher quality used boots are a better value proposition (look on ebay for something like Grant Stone, Parkhurst, or Oak Street boots that are lightly worn). However, you should be able to get 3-4 years of wear out of Thursdays with basic maintenance. You'll be just fine.
My issue with Thursday is that they market themselves as being higher quality than they really are. Their website states "Our footwear is handcrafted alongside similar products from other brands that charge customers in the $300-600 price range. We make zero compromises in terms of quality materials, manufacturing, or business ethics (fair labor and sustainability)." That is simply not true. They definitely make compromises in terms of materials and manufacturing. The only $600 boots they are better than would be fashion boots like you said, which at the end of the day aren't really 'boots' in the traditional sense anyway.
But they are to the potential thursday customer which is why i dont really mind it, its far from as nefarious as MVMT or similar watch brand for example selling overpriced fashion watches while shitting on slightly more expensive overpriced fashion watches.
To be frank the shoes i ordered dont fully cover the intended purpose for why i wanted boots in the first place, what i really wanted was a 6", brown or caramel version of those pairs of army boots i wore out a decade plus ago.
a sturdy unlined 3.2mm full grain leather upper with a reinforced heel area, and a grippy medium height heel onepiece polyurethane lug sole, and preferably a proper welt because the upper will easily last a lifetime of casual wear in rotation and hiking/occasional work etc, but thats not a really a dealbreaker as long as the sole gets worn out first.
I see most of the Pacific northwest brands make variations but they start at 365$ with the white chore boot's which i kind of feel is too much for such a simple construction, i dont need made in the usa, dont need a vibram-branded sole, dont really need a midsole as my army boots where ok with only a piece of fiberboard that ran from the midfoot forward combined with a composite shank and a thin fiberboard inner-sole, and i can get some of those for under 200$ new. (Alfa M77)
Then again i would never wear army boots in public and 365$ for a boot lasting many decades and multiple resoles isn't bad, especially considering it actually has a goodyear welt, is made in the usa, with a vibram branded sole.
Should have gotten the white's, will consider returning the thursdays depending on impression once they arrive, then again they will probably last forever in casual wear rotation, i mean i still have have 5 year old Stan smith's in my shoestand.
The Thursdays will definitely last casual wear. Let me know what you think when you get them. I do love White’s though - can’t go wrong with them.
@@BabblingBootsReviews Finally received my Whiskey Captains on the stormking outersole, can't seem to find any quality issues, they look exactly as advertised.
Highest quality shoes i have ever owned, the fitment is interesting, snug but not uncomfortable, not pinching, and it's evening and i have already walked 20k steps and been on my feet for most of the days so this is probably the most swollen my feet get realistically.
wont be able to fit some chunky wool ragg socks in them though.
Dont know if i became a service boot guy yet, might start treating myself to a new pair of boots every year, kinda want some grant stone's or Vibergs now to see the difference, and some RMW chelseas, and some PNW workboots, but i think one pair a year is a good compromize.
I would much rather buy a new pair of boots every few years than to wait years for a boot to feel good on my feet.
Boot break in only takes up to about a dozen wears so that’s not a real problem. If it hurts it was never right to begin with
@@orlog3343I'm breaking in my first pair of boots right now. They don't hurt; they're stiff, so walking is awkward. And the insoles have not formed to the bottom of my feet, like everyone says they will; so at this point it feels like I'm walking on plywood. I think I'm getting close to a dozen wears, so I hope you're right.
I think it really depends on the boot for how long it takes to break in. My Viberg boots have been comfortable since the first day I put them on and have only gotten more comfortable over time. My Meermins and Grant Stones definitely took a little longer to break in but no more than a couple of weeks each. You just have to find the right boot last and size for the shape of your foot. Happy boot hunting!
What were those 700$ boots ?
Viberg boots! You can find used pairs online for a good cheaper if the price is too steep
Why the massive sole ? Not for me why ? Why ?
It’s not my thing either, but my wife actually loves the Stormking outsole lol
It's not clear to me that you even put these boots on.
True. It could just be a grand conspiracy. Maybe I don't even wear boots at all! I just talk a lot about boots without ever having worn a single pair!
Cow do not have arms. They're four leg animals.
Not this one though! It definitely had arms. 🙂
So you can read a Thesaurus, duh