Kershaw Livewire OTF Automatic Knife - Overview and Review

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  • @metal_complex
    @metal_complex  Рік тому +4

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    • @mysticalraven89
      @mysticalraven89 5 місяців тому +1

      Lol I liked the little rant about the glass breaker that was funny…….. I have to be honest tho- the last video on my list- the Kershaw end game review… I have to say it was very hard hearing my favourite knife connoisseur basically trash talk my second favourite Kershaw knife 😅🥹

    • @Tiebox
      @Tiebox 4 місяці тому

      He rants about a knife not having a tiny extra glass breaker "Thank you! For the love of God!" than he finds himself wanting to break glass to save himself or someone and doesn't have a glass breaker.
      Why on earth would someone have a problem with a tiny glass breaker on a blade... Good Lord...

    • @metal_complex
      @metal_complex  4 місяці тому

      ​@@Tieboxna it's dumb. Don't need it

    • @Tiebox
      @Tiebox 4 місяці тому

      @@metal_complex When you think you speak for the masses, you are greatly mistaken. I have had to use glass breakers in two different careers for emergency purposes. Rarely, but I have used them. The 1st time, I didn't have a breaker and it's not a simple task at all. The difference of a few seconds can make the difference between living or dying.
      Do you know how hard it is to break through glass without one? I can tell you right now breaking glass especially from the inside of a vic, is extremely hard and most people are not even capable of doing so when a car door will not open after a collision and the only egress option is out through the window.
      I mean; why not have it? Because people do not like how it looks? How ridiculous. People (Most civilian pukes) are generally tool-bags. They will buy something because it looks 'tacticool' vs buying something that is practical.

    • @metal_complex
      @metal_complex  4 місяці тому

      ​@@TieboxI ain't reading all that. Glass breakers are dumb. The end.

  • @ericburns4301
    @ericburns4301 Рік тому +132

    No glass breaker, no lanyard hole. PERFECTION!

    • @not-a-raccoon
      @not-a-raccoon Рік тому +13

      And no proprietary hardware!

    • @BennyBladez-
      @BennyBladez- Рік тому

      Right!

    • @harisyoung4110
      @harisyoung4110 Рік тому +2

      @@JohnFrumFromAmerica Why it is deal breaker ?

    • @phillipamerson1672
      @phillipamerson1672 Рік тому

      I just ordered the last one Blade ops had, and I do t have any microtech or other fancy knives like that, but I was really looking forward to getting a knife that Doesn’t look like the same Chinese crap!

    • @LoganLawrence
      @LoganLawrence Рік тому +4

      Why do people hate glass breakers and lanyard holes?

  • @AdoreYouInAshXI
    @AdoreYouInAshXI 11 місяців тому +17

    No glassbreaker, no stupid proprietary screws that require special tools, no inflated price because of a name, no unnecessary and gaudy designs... just pure function and quality for a good price. Kershaw nailed it, imo.

  • @Lochlann13
    @Lochlann13 Рік тому +38

    I never thought I'd be more inclined to buy a Kershaw than a Microtech, but here we are. This thing looks great.

    • @zacharyolds1639
      @zacharyolds1639 Рік тому +2

      Same exactly the same man that knife is already on the way almost lol 😂

    • @godforever27
      @godforever27 Рік тому +6

      Kershaw is my favorite knife company. They make high quality knives for the working man. My favorite Kershaw is the Kershaw link 20cv. $85 for 20cv and made in USA. Also has better steel then a house Ritter rsk in the same steel

  • @wineguy247
    @wineguy247 Рік тому +10

    Got mine in the mail today and I can not agree more. This blade feels good, looks good and I'm totally satisfied. Kershaw did there home work and hit a home run here.

  • @nufmedia9035
    @nufmedia9035 Рік тому +3

    Finally! An in-depth overview as I wait for mine to arrive, will be my first OTF! Thank you Metal Complex

  • @gmoorach
    @gmoorach Рік тому +28

    I own both an Ultratech and the Livewire. The build quality is equal to the Mircotech. But, I like the action on the Livewire better. The blade on the Livewire has a better primary grind and edge geometry for cutting, than the Ultratech. I believe the Livewire to be a superior cutting tool. I love this knife. The only negative I can think of is the texture of the anodization makes it a bit difficult to remove from the pocket. And I mean a bit. However, it provides a some welcome traction in the hand when using the knife.

  • @fleetwoodray
    @fleetwoodray Рік тому +5

    Just now, I found out about this Kershaw U.S.A. OTF and began watching multiple reviewers of this knife. So far, you are the only reviewer I have seen so far, that addresses blade play. Thanks for letting us know it's equal to Microtech's Ultratech.

  • @michaelupchurch4783
    @michaelupchurch4783 Рік тому +7

    Bro black tanto blur partially serrated was my first good pocket knife too! Thought its was cheap chinese 8cr like their other knives. 20+ years later I start watching Knife videos like ur channel. Pull knife back out loose n both directions, dull. Took apart bent lock bar, cleaned n oiled, sharpened . Notice that it is usa made n goid steel. Now solid and hair shaving again, what a journey. Even hid this one in a bush at Statue of Liberty 🗽 while taking tour. It started it all.

  • @Shatsbeard
    @Shatsbeard Рік тому +2

    One of your best videos, the humor hit and the info was solid!

  • @swampk9
    @swampk9 Рік тому +8

    I would absolutely buy this over any other OTF at the same price. The fact it's a few bucks more affordable is icing on the cake.

  • @not-a-raccoon
    @not-a-raccoon Рік тому +4

    I'm a huge fan of the launch series, I'll be getting one of these for sure.

  • @_Nathan-
    @_Nathan- Рік тому +1

    Can’t wait to get one! Kershaw absolutely killed it.

  • @timomurphy2850
    @timomurphy2850 Рік тому +4

    Absolutely gorgeous. Love the review, and I am sick of the glass breakers too. And good point about the price, at first I thought wow that's the most expensive kersh I've ever seen. But it is a style that is in a higher starting price bracket than other types of knives. Keep up the good work MC!

  • @kevinlagas4962
    @kevinlagas4962 Рік тому +2

    I pre-ordered it I've been excited can't wait to get mine

  • @mcsquirgle
    @mcsquirgle Рік тому +2

    People should take note of this strong recommendation. I'm excited to get my hands on one

  • @chrisoliver1327
    @chrisoliver1327 Рік тому +1

    Glad to hear your take on it.

  • @DerekRC
    @DerekRC 6 місяців тому

    Thanks for the review. Gonna pick one up. Always been a Kershaw fan.

  • @JimCook
    @JimCook Рік тому +1

    Just ordered mine, looking forward to it.

  • @PaulK390S90V
    @PaulK390S90V Рік тому +1

    Just ordered one and glad I did after your video! Have an Ultratech as well.

  • @keredrellit3992
    @keredrellit3992 Рік тому +1

    i'm sold! bought one in the middle of the review!

  • @scrick7112
    @scrick7112 Рік тому +3

    Hi knife guy. Great overview. You are on top of your game today. Informative. I’m not an OTF guy but I watched the whole overview I root for USA knives. And you are hilarious with the other persons voice. Have a great day.

  • @SourLymes
    @SourLymes Рік тому

    Well I'm sold. On the knife and your channel. Great job.

  • @LeeShand
    @LeeShand Рік тому +1

    Cant wait for mine to show up!

  • @jr71982
    @jr71982 5 місяців тому

    Just ordered one it’ll be my first otf excited for it to here!

  • @landontreinen3062
    @landontreinen3062 Рік тому +4

    I’m not really a fan of OTF’s in general (other than the microtech cypher 🥵) but this is actually really impressive. Bravo Kershaw. This is a pretty good year in knives already. This, the MSI, and Protech brings back the full size Rockeye and a bigger SNG. Hell yeah man. And to think it’s only February, what’s gonna come out at Blade? I’m stoked.

  • @RockneOliver
    @RockneOliver Рік тому +1

    I'm similar to you - my first "serious" EDC was a Kershaw - the Leek (Ken Onion design) in fact. I've tried other EDCs, and I still carry a Leek to this day. However I've been wanting an OTF, and now that this is out I've already ordered one. I'm really looking forward to it.

  • @masonmead9434
    @masonmead9434 Рік тому +6

    Big microtech fan here. I love the microtech otf models and have had very good experiences with all the microtechs I’ve owned, however after picking this bad boy up I am proud to say that it’s ended up surprising me with how well Kershaw has made their otf. Hopefully it stands up to the test of time as good as my microtechs have.

    • @fuloran1
      @fuloran1 9 місяців тому +1

      I just got a utx-85 dual edge and am really disappointed with it. The action is so stiff its almost unusuable. Also, one side of the blade is so dull i can saw my palm with it. For the money I paid I expected a lot more.

  • @de_w8tam
    @de_w8tam Рік тому +2

    I paid $210 for mine, preordered from a Kershaw guy I've ordered from many times before. Ended up with a sub 0100 serial number. Currently my favorite carry knife. Wish I'd bought two. My wife wants one now.

  • @axe2grind9
    @axe2grind9 Рік тому +1

    Dude…ur on a different level in this review lol😂like aggro af! I like it 🤘keep up the good work

  • @andrewmccormick1187
    @andrewmccormick1187 Рік тому +1

    My first knife was a Gerber FAST Draw. I lucked out as well as mine broke in SO well and still has a kick. It was serrated too, which I now hate but w/e lol.

  • @spydercomonkey
    @spydercomonkey Рік тому

    Informative and hilarious review.

  • @Dreweldeenknives
    @Dreweldeenknives Рік тому +1

    My first Kershaw atm is the blur . I’m going to grab this for my first otf

  • @goneballistic
    @goneballistic Рік тому

    This thing looks awesome. And kershaw makes great knives

  • @GLOCKsh00ter24
    @GLOCKsh00ter24 Рік тому +1

    I really like the blade shape. Only thing that would have made this cooler was if they were able to get the hardware on the clip side instead of the show side. Ordering one right now, I even remembered to use your link.

  • @benriding8678
    @benriding8678 6 місяців тому

    Awesome review.

  • @killough71010
    @killough71010 4 дні тому

    Just got the blade hq Exclusive, geez I'm in love!

  • @truetalon
    @truetalon Рік тому +5

    The designer of the Livewire - Matt Diskin - is no slouch when it comes to knife design including switchblades. I hope it’s a big success for him.

  • @DossFarm
    @DossFarm 5 місяців тому

    I’ve got six blurs. No regrets. Ordered this knife in the flat dark earth tonight. Great video. Also…addicted to my other new knife… spyderco military 2.

  • @nateb9346
    @nateb9346 Рік тому +1

    I am and have always been a microtech fan boy, but Kershaw has me rethinking my approach.

  • @Greenmachine305
    @Greenmachine305 6 місяців тому +2

    Finally an OTF that I wanted to purchase. Kershaw is knocking it out of the park and the magna cut steel is just icing on the cake. And yes, the pocket clip can be reversed and it is perfect. My only suggestion and this is purely cosmetic, would be if the blade was high polish it would be absolutely stunning. For what it's worth, I bought mine for less than 230. Standing ovation for Kershaw. They did it!

    • @seethedeo
      @seethedeo 4 місяці тому

      Just saw the magnacut upgrade myself. It serving you well? Think its time for a NKD lol

    • @Greenmachine305
      @Greenmachine305 4 місяці тому +1

      @@seethedeo Its great. Buy with confidence.

  • @RockyMountainBlades
    @RockyMountainBlades Місяць тому

    Yeah absolutely with the first knife thing, my first one I bought was a mini grip all blacked out combo sheep’s foot blade in 154cm because I thought it was cool. Turned out to still be able to pull weight in my collection. My first knife I actually carried was some no name el cheapo tactical thing with orange real tree camo.

  • @Scarecrow0047
    @Scarecrow0047 Рік тому +1

    Ultratech fan here. Looks like a great knife and can't wait to handle one! Probably gonna wait it out til they might start making different blade types. That's one reason I'd rather an ultratech. I have specific taste for what blade I'm carrying. I don't mind the glass break or pocket clip lol. Clip actually helps the knife have a better fit in my hand when using it which I like about it.

  • @mattconklin4026
    @mattconklin4026 Рік тому +1

    I like this! I have a few Kerhaws that are totally worth having around. I'm not interested in more aluminum scaled knives 🤷 this model looks slick still

  • @kevinhauser8250
    @kevinhauser8250 Рік тому +2

    Metal complex please make a mock-up pocket apparatus to where you can show the knife going into a pocket and how it looks and functions while being in the pocket

  • @karllager2214
    @karllager2214 Рік тому +3

    Kershaw blackout was the first knife I bought circa 98/99. I've owned at least a dozen since. They lost me in the past decade or so with speed safe, Chinese made and meh designs. Hopefully they continue on this new path.

  • @L3GENDZLuLKeK
    @L3GENDZLuLKeK 11 місяців тому +1

    Dude your reaction about the glass breaker gets you a sub lmao.

  • @joshuanicolai4776
    @joshuanicolai4776 Рік тому +1

    My uncle bought all these frost cutlery knives for gifts to all the nephews and I got a few and those were my first pocket knives

  • @TismFishing
    @TismFishing 7 місяців тому

    Love to see a comparison between this and the axial shift. I have a 1st gen axial shift wharncliff and I love it.

  • @1440Defense
    @1440Defense 11 місяців тому

    Yesssss...I already own a glass breaker and it's in the holster.

  • @tomjefferson2024
    @tomjefferson2024 Рік тому +1

    Great Comparison! I have One coming and USA Kershaw's are Awesome 👍

  • @verpine3534
    @verpine3534 Рік тому +4

    Flipping that pocket clip to the other side would lend the same pocket advantage to lefties as the current placement does for righties. It's an excellent design.

    • @armyofninjas9055
      @armyofninjas9055 2 місяці тому

      Southpaw here. Yep. No southpaw deep carry is a deal-breaker for me. Glad to see a rightie get it lol. Plus an otf is ambidextrous.

  • @neongirl
    @neongirl Місяць тому

    I'm not sure what I liked more, the knife or your emotions in this review. 😆

  • @Jstarr918
    @Jstarr918 Рік тому +3

    I’ve been on the fence about an otf forever, this might be the one. No glass breaker!

    • @nufmedia9035
      @nufmedia9035 Рік тому +1

      Same here, ordered this one today! I’m very curious if I will make this my edc or more of a special occasion kind of knife.
      But if I’m dropping $239, I’m planning on having it on me everyday, hopefully it can handle to abuse 😅

  • @ozarkguns1
    @ozarkguns1 5 місяців тому

    Good review. I'm a USA Kershaw fan.

  • @w.ericwatt2987
    @w.ericwatt2987 8 місяців тому +1

    Would like very much to see an updated review with the Kershaw switch to Magnacut from 20CV, with some discussion on why they made that change. Just saying...because I trust your opinion.

  • @Chrispy_540
    @Chrispy_540 Рік тому

    I know everyone doesn’t like the glass breaker and I respect that. I wish that it was a add on option so that everyone could have it both ways. There was just a dash cam video of a officer crashed into a pursuit vehicle. He had a microtech I believe that he used to cut the airbag out of the way and used the glass breaker to bust the window so they could exit the vehicle.

  • @baloneylorddonkeyhammer2273
    @baloneylorddonkeyhammer2273 Рік тому +3

    I really think Kershaw knocked it out of the park with their first otf . I feel that looking at sum of all parts . Materials,quality, fit and finish put it solidly in second behind the GT 035 .and ahead of the ultratech in 3rd now and the axial shift in 4th . For my money.

    • @Goofiest_goober838
      @Goofiest_goober838 Рік тому +3

      Now if only Spyderco would hop on the bandwagon and make an otf (yes it should have the hole)

  • @hificat101
    @hificat101 Рік тому +1

    Never was really interested in an OTF, but I kinda want one of these. Only other one I have interest in is an Axial because I saw a video showing how theyre made.

  • @whalehands4779
    @whalehands4779 9 місяців тому

    Kershaw is killing it right now

  • @billyharper365
    @billyharper365 7 місяців тому

    Got mine today serial # 1 ,9000blk .It is smoother than my microtech ultratech.I really hope Kershaw makes more models of OTF.

  • @Vaco67
    @Vaco67 Рік тому +1

    Your Mr. Mackie voice is on point MC 😂

  • @cameronwhitford5127
    @cameronwhitford5127 Рік тому +3

    I’ve had mine for several weeks and I’m still very impressed with it. Way better than the Ultratech i had. I also had a GT 035 and it was great. It is very close between the GT and Livewire. But I’d pick the Livewire if i was buying a new otf. Mainly because of price i paid $210.

  • @willtrax71
    @willtrax71 Рік тому +1

    Kershaw brought the price under the Ultratech and that’s pretty cool.

  • @dingusmagee3326
    @dingusmagee3326 5 місяців тому

    Fantastic job, one of the best looking knives they've ever made IMO. seems to me like it doesn't make much sense to buy any other us made otf

  • @dalegribble7125
    @dalegribble7125 Рік тому

    My first EDC knife was the Kershaw GRID. Now I own a shit ton of kershaws. Mostly USA made knives.

  • @alexstrouse6333
    @alexstrouse6333 Рік тому +2

    I hope we can see you review the CRKT Hogue made knives that came out recently, I find the price on them to be way too high, compared to the other Hogue made knives like the Deka, Doug Ritter, and K320.

  • @tomjefferson2024
    @tomjefferson2024 Рік тому +1

    FYI Kershaw's Retail Price is $304.00 for this Livewire knife. You can get them for around $240. 00 or less if you look around

  • @stevekoelliker6764
    @stevekoelliker6764 10 місяців тому

    Just bought the Magnacut version from SMKW. Waiting on it now.

  • @Jangmo_SC
    @Jangmo_SC 6 місяців тому

    The Dr.Phil clip description had me rolling

  • @Nix27.
    @Nix27. 3 місяці тому

    Kershaw is one of the best knife makers that always has fair prices and good quality knives.

  • @anthonys7976
    @anthonys7976 Рік тому +2

    Never understood why people hate on Kershaw.. they make really nice USA made knives that are at the right price point. Their Launch series are excellent automatics so I’d assume the OTF they’ve made is just as good. In reality if kershaw had a worse business plan and only made high end knives for an ultra premium price, people would talk like they are Microtech or Reeves….. oh wait, ZT Knives

  • @robiel317420
    @robiel317420 Рік тому

    Good looking knife. Happy they didn't slap the ZT logo on it, probably would have jumped the price 150 or so. Might buy this one. Great deal for the materials IMO.

  • @adamtimmins3035
    @adamtimmins3035 Рік тому

    Have you seen the gmascus g10 hogue counter strikes that are coming soon? I am very interested in those and would be interested in seeing a comparison with this one.

  • @LsBirdman
    @LsBirdman 6 місяців тому +1

    Jump to 2024 and Kershaws Livewire is without question the best value for money in the OTF industry🏆BladeOps is selling a blacked out variant with magnacut DLC coated blade for $220. Livewire utilizes a dual spring mechanism or what the hardons at Microtech would refer to as “drivetrain”😂

  • @PatDsNutz
    @PatDsNutz Рік тому

    Got an Axial,a Combat Troodon and a couple of ProTechs. Guardian and Kershaw are next

  • @samkochel6990
    @samkochel6990 Рік тому +2

    I LOVE LOVE LOVE, as much as you maybe even that it doesn't have a glass breaker...a useless glass breaker. The blade shape is AWESOME and this is so much going to eat MT's lunch. Now just make a smaller UTX-85 sized one please. Also no proprietary screws.

  • @hanaroo5515
    @hanaroo5515 Рік тому

    I was researching in getting this but its actually cheaper and better buying from microtech from their service personnel program if you are military, le , etc. You get the ultratech and other knives at a big discount.

  • @lonewolf597
    @lonewolf597 Рік тому +1

    I bought this knife as soon as it was available. For the money it is awesome! I have no reason to buy a Microtech anything. Except maybe a SOCOM. Do they even still make those?

  • @upsidedownpeon9984
    @upsidedownpeon9984 Рік тому +2

    I've been loving mine, in the current market brand new the only competitive choice would be the axial. Price wise at least, ultratech is about 100 dollars more... so yea.

    • @kuramatd
      @kuramatd Рік тому +1

      I’m picking up either this or an Axial as soon as any of them restock.

  • @2fast2block
    @2fast2block 8 місяців тому

    I returned their push button auto Launch 7. Horrible button. I took a chance on their Livewire in Magnacut. HUGE difference. Night and day. I will be keeping the Livewire and it is a steal at their price.

  • @Civiliansoldier762
    @Civiliansoldier762 Рік тому +6

    I’ve always hated how cheesy the blades looked on OTF knifes and with the glass breaker they all look like gas station knives. The kershaw actually looks sleek and has an aesthetically appealing design.

  • @DillonG71
    @DillonG71 8 місяців тому

    the livewire is the best value otf on the market right now in my opinion, especially in magnacut.

  • @helamcasey7828
    @helamcasey7828 Рік тому

    I want one of these

  • @osomxl
    @osomxl Рік тому +1

    If I lived in a free state I would have this in my pocket right now. I have had many Kershaw knives over the years and have had less problems than other brands. They are an incredible value. We must also take into consideration that other countries do not recognize intellectual property rights and have almost no labor standards and think to ourselves, are we really getting a value or are they taking advantage of the situation to make more profit. Consider the market right now being flooded by sub $30 folders with g10 handles and D2 blades. Those same quality knives used to hover around the $50-60 range. It’s hard for an American company to compete in a market like that and make enough profit to maintain quality and pay for overhead while still trying to innovate and bring to market new product.

    • @alexsherel3344
      @alexsherel3344 Рік тому +1

      I bought a Launch from bhq, before jan1, I live in pa…..just saying
      Ps love the launch, but am getting this .

  • @wojciechpatalas6660
    @wojciechpatalas6660 7 місяців тому

    I was using glass breaker on my Ultratech literally two days ago. I would not say that it saved my life but was a great help. Just saying. :-)

  • @jacocoetzee9627
    @jacocoetzee9627 Рік тому +1

    Thanx for videos. We all know by now u don't like lanyard holes and glass breakers. Imagine some viewers do like them.

  • @fritzkellerman6632
    @fritzkellerman6632 Рік тому

    Was hoping to see it next to the Medusa 2.0

  • @bucc5207
    @bucc5207 Рік тому +1

    I would love to buy one of these, but the sellers won't send me one unless I falsely certify that I'm military or LEO, or have only one arm. Am I missing something?

  • @realtyrocks1969
    @realtyrocks1969 Рік тому +1

    I got 5 of these in a overstock box i bought from a dealer. Ill be selling them at the next gunshow unless someone buys them 1st. I got such a good deal that id be happy to be get $100 ea out of them. Thanks for the review. Looks great

  • @JCpNK
    @JCpNK Рік тому +1

    I'm very impressed with mine (although it had a terrible sharpening job from the factory).. Between this knife and Guardian Tactical I'll never buy another Microtech OTF

  • @velozzity7021
    @velozzity7021 Рік тому

    Matt Diskin is the Designer per some of the adds I have seen online btw.

  • @christopherdeoliveira714
    @christopherdeoliveira714 Рік тому

    I'm a helicopter jumper out of-er make my week. Thanks man! I'll checker out.

  • @Thor7
    @Thor7 8 місяців тому

    I just got one of these and the button seems harder to push on mine compared to the effort you exert to deploy yours.

  • @jonathanwatson268
    @jonathanwatson268 Рік тому +6

    This looks like a great build from Kershaw! I'm surprised they didn't brand it as a ZT. Did you ever get the S110V ZT 0562?

    • @tyarnold4088
      @tyarnold4088 3 місяці тому +1

      Do they own ZT?

    • @jonathanwatson268
      @jonathanwatson268 3 місяці тому +1

      @@tyarnold4088 yes. Kershaw and ZT are both brands under the KAI umbrella. They also have a line of kitchen knives branded as KAI.

  • @Frank-vo9xo
    @Frank-vo9xo Рік тому

    I just preordered mine from nightcenter it was two twenty nine free shipping no tax

  • @REBELSCL
    @REBELSCL Рік тому

    How would you compare the Livewire to the Launch 15 or the Basic Pro-Tech GodFather 4”?

  • @w.ericwatt2987
    @w.ericwatt2987 8 місяців тому

    I wonder about that "Clip"...it used to be required in Oregon in order to get around "Concealed vs NOT Concealed" . A clip that was visible outside the pocket made it NOT concealed. Thank goodness that is not a requirement in Arizona. Anyone know if their State requires a visible clip ?

  • @Mortismors
    @Mortismors Рік тому

    When they make an all blacked out version I'll get it if the button is also.

  • @knighthawk3759
    @knighthawk3759 Рік тому

    I don't know why everybody is complaining about the price I got mine for under 190 and that was at release just do a little price shopping folks and you'll be fine