LTE & 5G Retransmission Mechanisms: HARQ & RLC Explained

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  • @OurTechPlanet
    @OurTechPlanet  Рік тому +1

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  • @ShivamPandey-km6rv
    @ShivamPandey-km6rv Рік тому +1

    Your explanation is more useful...
    Thanks for your contribution.

  • @amitgoyal1869
    @amitgoyal1869 Рік тому +1

    Great Job !

  • @vibes2011
    @vibes2011 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the nice explanation ... when you get time can you kindly also elaborate about the parallel HARQ processes in MAC layer and how this is used for continuous transmission on teh air interface ?

  • @navas4303
    @navas4303 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for making learning simple...Please share a vedio on 5G CA

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  Рік тому

      Thanks, sure, will address CA topic soon as well!

  • @林泓均-q4j
    @林泓均-q4j Рік тому +1

    Thanks for your clear explanation! I want to ask for some applications (such as 5G MBS PTM), RAN1 has decided to add the feature of HARQ in PHY layer. However, PTM only supports UM at RLC layer. Under this scenario, can we state that the gNB will know the reception status of each UE?

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  Рік тому +2

      The example in this session is for RLC AM mode which is used for most of the data type sessions. For RLC UM mode, the HARQ retransmissions is the only medium since there will be no RLC retransmissions. So, if all HARQ retransmissions fail then the packet is lost. However, the usual approach for such scenarios is to make the HARQ very robust by increasing the number of retransmission count for HARQ and also by decreasing the modulation to improve the link budget.

  • @anuragchakra
    @anuragchakra 9 місяців тому +1

    Thanks loved it understood thanks

  • @raminsabzalizade4629
    @raminsabzalizade4629 11 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for clear points about harq.
    could you please explain more about harq process in ul/dl as 5g uses asynchronous harq in both ways.

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  11 місяців тому

      Sure, let me add that to my list. Thanks :)

  • @bijitdeb2010
    @bijitdeb2010 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the nice video. I subscribed to your channel for such videos.
    Can you please confirm if the understanding is correct
    1) RLC nack will come into picture after max harq retransmissions?
    2) So if the UE is in poor radio condition or high bler, then rlc nack will occur?
    3) RLC nack can cause an increase of RLC delay.
    4) What can be the other causes of RLC delay? can it be due to rlc buffer size full?
    Can you make a video related to RLC buffer size and its consequences?

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  Рік тому

      Correct. Max HARQ Retx should result in a NACK for RLC. So, higher BLER will result in more RLC NACKs which should increase the RLC buffer delay. Usually bad radio conditions or congestion can increase the RLC buffer and thus, increase the RLC delay.

    • @bijitdeb2010
      @bijitdeb2010 Рік тому +1

      @@OurTechPlanet can you explain more about rlc congestion? I mean if any videos? By congestion, my understanding is excessive buffering of packets, i.e. A timestamp is added to every ingressed packet and time delay is when the packet is egressed after certain time delay.

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  Рік тому

      @@bijitdeb2010 Ok , will add it to my To-Do list :)

    • @bijitdeb2010
      @bijitdeb2010 Рік тому +1

      Thank 😊 🙏

  • @georgioskarouzos7418
    @georgioskarouzos7418 6 місяців тому +1

    Every set of 4 HARQ retransmissions is considered as HARQ process with specific id. Is it correct ? Thank you

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  6 місяців тому

      Yes, the HARQ retransmissions use the same HARQ ID

  • @irfanetrx1
    @irfanetrx1 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the video
    So means these 5 Harq retransmission is nothing but CRC Failure?

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  Рік тому

      Yes, actually a HARQ retransmission usually happens due to a CRC failure

    • @irfanetrx1
      @irfanetrx1 Рік тому +1

      @@OurTechPlanet thanks

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  Рік тому

      @@irfanetrx1 You are welcome :)

  • @arunsrivastava6817
    @arunsrivastava6817 Рік тому +1

    Could you please make a learning session on NR RNTI

  • @千里之行-z5r
    @千里之行-z5r 6 місяців тому

    thank you sir

  • @coolmunzir
    @coolmunzir Рік тому +1

    However, the eNB or gNB can reduce MCS to make the service more robust.
    This is done after HARQ ReTx (4 times) are exhausted so can it be said that it will happen (if it does happen) with RLC ReTx?

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  Рік тому +1

      No, it can actually happen after first NACK or a couple of retransmissions as well. It is open to implementation.

    • @filthykid84
      @filthykid84 Рік тому +1

      It can happen after first NACK? Then this new MCS lowered packet should be re-sent by RLC? But then this should happen after harqs have expired and there's an RLC re-transmission?

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  Рік тому +2

      @@filthykid84 Any MCS reduction is a MAC layer concept. RLC does not interact with that.

  • @TurbidSugar19
    @TurbidSugar19 Рік тому +1

    Hence we cant change MCS during HARQ process and CRC bits of RedundancyVersion didnt help, we got RLC to retry with lower set of MCS. Good one mister

  • @VishalRajputVRR
    @VishalRajputVRR Рік тому +1

    Maximum HARQ used in 5G?

  • @TheAbdulj6
    @TheAbdulj6 Рік тому +1

    What is offset to carrier and offset to point A in ssb

    • @TheAbdulj6
      @TheAbdulj6 Рік тому +1

      Please make a short video with images

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  Рік тому

      Sure, let me work on creating one for this topic too

    • @BharathiSreeTwins
      @BharathiSreeTwins Рік тому

      Offset to carrier defines start of the BWP and offsettopointA defines offset between pointA and SSB start position or kssb

  • @Jindabad290
    @Jindabad290 Рік тому +1

    Sir plz pdf dijiye❤

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  Рік тому

      Unfortunately, at the moment, we are not sharing the content in this format :)