Hellion Lua - Pre-Release Impressions & Specimen Sez EE Thoughts [Epic Seven]

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  • @lamp6017
    @lamp6017 8 днів тому +39

    They did a lot of things right these last few weeks. Great anniversary (imo), greatly expanded balance patch (I pray they keep it up, but probably not), revealing a new hero's kit before it gets datamined anyway, etc. Credit where credit is due.

  • @ThunderGodMark
    @ThunderGodMark 8 днів тому +13

    Art team continues to carry this game. I love her design

  • @Sputnik42
    @Sputnik42 8 днів тому +12

    Because of the script format they gave us in Lua's post I couldn't help but hear GM Sez's voice when reading it.

  • @thatonexfallenangel7810
    @thatonexfallenangel7810 5 днів тому

    6:15, I think if they wanted to make that distinction clear they should’ve written it “-and makes all allies granted with challenge, counterattack.” Punctuation is especially important for these kinds of descriptions.

  • @darkartist9936
    @darkartist9936 8 днів тому +17

    Also do be careful when deciding whether you want to skip or not. We said the same thing back in the day with DDR and look where he's at now. Wouldn't surprise me if because of Mort, they'll start making exceptions to the no counterattacks, and Lua might be the perfect test subject down the line

    • @hafizhulraihan6366
      @hafizhulraihan6366 8 днів тому

      who's DDR? i'm new to the game

    • @xiyen124
      @xiyen124 8 днів тому

      ​@@hafizhulraihan6366death dealer ray

    • @akatsukilockheart2597
      @akatsukilockheart2597 8 днів тому +1

      @@hafizhulraihan6366 Death Dealer Ray

    • @BigDaddyRich69
      @BigDaddyRich69 8 днів тому +8

      @@hafizhulraihan6366 Death Dealer Ray who was absurdly bad on release but then they reworked him shortly after and he is top tier

    • @Gh0stHands
      @Gh0stHands 8 днів тому +13

      Good point, but fundamentally different conversation.
      DDR was heavily buffed much later, and may even be considered a rework with how big the change was. Before the change he was definitely not worth it. I remember because I loved DDR even before the buff and he was no where near his current power level and was barely even usable for a long time when he was released.
      So deciding if it's worth it now is not the same as, "pull anyways because it can be buffed and become OP later". Pulling now is a discussion of limited resources.

  • @BigDaddyRich69
    @BigDaddyRich69 8 днів тому +71

    Lua is basically a school bully whose simps attack you whenever you touch her,love the little details like that.

    • @creativename.
      @creativename. 8 днів тому +1

      simp wars

    • @BboySquidfoot
      @BboySquidfoot 6 днів тому

      That's pretty funny but... I'm also very tired of schoolgirl tropes.

  • @erykolop1
    @erykolop1 8 днів тому +2

    Some changes that would make her better:
    If S3 is available according to Cooldown the passive CR Increase will involve her too, so she can push herself up.
    After her S3 is used the passive will no longer push her, giving her more uptime on her Def Buff.
    Its kinda like with ML Ball where you can "Hold" the S2 to cycle, and then decide WHEN you want to actually aoe strip + sleep
    Or you know, give her a self cleanse on S3 just for herself

    • @AcelShock
      @AcelShock 7 днів тому

      her s2 already includes herself? she gives the whole team 10% cr

  • @ikiraakatricky
    @ikiraakatricky 7 днів тому +2

    they should make the target you select get provoked for two turns and everyone else gets provoked for one turn, that way she can still do her thing against a laia or hand guy

    • @im_Tsu
      @im_Tsu  7 днів тому

      This is actually a perfect solution!

  • @hayseshouhda5730
    @hayseshouhda5730 7 днів тому +6

    Being able to be countered is not a bad thing. Not every character needs to have their mechanic go off 100% of the time.
    If you think so, then you cannot complain about power creep.
    By tsu's logic, ML luna is not a very good character because Laia and handguy just cleans off the debuffs and luna really wasted a turn.

    • @im_Tsu
      @im_Tsu  7 днів тому +4

      @hayseshouhda5730 Luna nearly wins the game on the spot if you don't cleanse. That's not the case with Lua.
      Luna can also carry a game with her S2. Lua cannot carry a game solo the same way.
      Characters should have counters. They also shouldn't just completely fold if their one thing gets countered.

  • @HiziProjects
    @HiziProjects 8 днів тому +5

    I love SG's transparency in this update, hope we get more of it.
    I think she's still a great 5th pick like Aria which would turn the game around if no other picks covers her kit. I'm glad we're finally getting a non-meta-changing ML5

  • @Fuhualover
    @Fuhualover 7 днів тому

    I would love to see more e7 history from you my man

    • @im_Tsu
      @im_Tsu  7 днів тому +1

      It has been a while, hasn't it? Hmm. . . .

  • @jmoney8130
    @jmoney8130 7 днів тому

    Always appreciate your insights amigo

  • @SDZ675
    @SDZ675 6 днів тому

    We still don't have enough info like mola effects or skill cooldown. Art looks great though.

  • @LetHimCO0k
    @LetHimCO0k 8 днів тому

    Holy shit you're right. If Ras stop doing his leg days we will PeepoRiot

  • @vaylara5679
    @vaylara5679 7 днів тому

    Well we had 4 really strong and useable ML5s in a row now, its normal they will bring one more niche now and then perhaps a must pull at the end of the year. But I am sad about changing running Ras for this random crystal thing after 6 years...

    • @Anelkia
      @Anelkia 6 днів тому +1

      Same here, I loved my little Ras❤

  • @PoootieTang69
    @PoootieTang69 8 днів тому

    I actually think her kit is not well designed for ladder, but predict that her kit will be meta defining in actual bracket/tourney/World Cup matches. As the character list dwindles when the pre-ban count goes up, I think her value will go up considerably since people historically slow down. The extra damage and added control will go a long way imo

  • @kianakaslana7240
    @kianakaslana7240 6 днів тому +1

    Thanks for the explanations!

  • @rnnel
    @rnnel 7 днів тому

    I didn't get any ML5 from 150 summons. I got MLCeline on free random ML5 ticket. The other ML5s I got are Spec. Tene and DDR. I also bombed my mystic summons on Harsetti and ML Ilynav. I'm few summons away from pity. I'll get her no matter what, even if she's mid. I'm really itching to get an ML5. 😢

  • @maeda_1
    @maeda_1 7 днів тому

    Okay so i just wanted to make clear, from scale to 1-10 how would you rate new lua ?

  • @Ipawnchturtles
    @Ipawnchturtles 7 днів тому

    I would feel far better about Lua's s3 provoke if it was a unique undispellable that FORCED the engagement, but thats just me.

  • @NotyGG
    @NotyGG 8 днів тому

    I think the art looks so amazing 😍

  • @JazzCabbagE7
    @JazzCabbagE7 8 днів тому

    I think if the 8% hp tick from challenge counter did 8% injury it would help her out a lot. As it stands tho, shes kinda mid. Ill still pull for her, in hopes of a buff later, along the same lines as alena when she was release

  • @jpelekin
    @jpelekin 8 днів тому +2

    Instead of of describing challenge like a reverse beguile, I’d say it’s easier to say it’s the auto tower buff defiance. Instead of having provoke built in it’s just part of the s3

  • @cupie2255
    @cupie2255 7 днів тому

    2 turn provoke on an AoE strip with ignore ER sb? That's definitely too much, I'm sure there are ways to buff her without making the only counter to her running an MLB limited artifact on a singular moonlight 5star. Maybe she could increase the amount of damage that her allies inflict when it's not their turn.

  • @spacialsonic7779
    @spacialsonic7779 7 днів тому

    Adin and Taeyou? Is this Dark Adin will be Lore from Ml story but using the 3 Star version? ( I will take that alldays if there is a story to farm behind)

  • @khallidmubarak-assad678
    @khallidmubarak-assad678 7 днів тому

    Can we get a ml warrior? Was Choux the last one??

  • @domnamikaze
    @domnamikaze 8 днів тому

    There is NEVER TOOO MUCH PINK!!! 🤣🤣
    Interesting kit but perma ban mort to use her. Hopefully they change the RTA preban and ban protection before her release to even try and play her... I'd love to try a meme team with her

  • @UndoubtedMist
    @UndoubtedMist 8 днів тому

    Mui is far better than people give credit. She has such little presence, nobody knows how to deal with her. She's honestly been my MVP this RTA.

  • @minecraftliker3
    @minecraftliker3 8 днів тому +5

    So a thing you missed is any counter works for challenge. This means any thing like elbris etc.(this makes it work even without the provoke)
    As for changes well,
    agree with the 15% cr
    2 turn provoke is fine if they remove the "ignore ER" soulburn
    i think even with a 3 turn s3 cd i think her s1 should give challenge to one ally with like a thing of "to the highest attack" one or "in the back/front row" character.
    (Can i also say how i love the flavour of her kit a lot too. A gyaru mastermind that is provocative so you want to slap her and has her "followers/simps" attack you if you touch her. also how this kinda vibe fits Lua so well to me)
    As for the ml cermia and roana countering her, well that is fine to me as having counters is good. with this in mind tho i would also agree that mort might be a too big of a shutdown character
    (people were talking about him not being that good of a early pick in rta at least)
    Last thing is that for me at least i would like to use her for arena and GW vs any light unit :)

  • @dominicwilliams214
    @dominicwilliams214 8 днів тому

    Turn 2 ranger yay ❤
    Also spez kinda is kinda baller with alot of units.
    Really want ddr or ruele after buff.
    Also tsu how do you feel about mort turning off counter set and counter units?

    • @dominicwilliams214
      @dominicwilliams214 8 днів тому

      Plus I'm going to pre ban mort anyways since he turns off my counter playstyle 😅

  • @Bradenn
    @Bradenn 7 днів тому

    personally think her design is pretty nice

  • @KWyvern
    @KWyvern 8 днів тому

    It feels like mort buff was to counter this character

  • @mobiii5998
    @mobiii5998 8 днів тому

    isn't she a just a better bad cat armin? instead of one counter attack with cdmg buff, makes everyone counter with extra dmg

  • @nicholassitter6400
    @nicholassitter6400 8 днів тому

    She reminds me of a different version of bad cat, who is also not very good. In fact I wouldn't really say her kit is much of an upgrade over bad cat and bad cat is a four star. Not sure who would want to spend their mystics on this girl.

  • @E7Alice
    @E7Alice 8 днів тому

    Nahh she just needs more pink!🩷💕💗💓💞

  • @khanhhoangtruong9074
    @khanhhoangtruong9074 8 днів тому +1

    i think the best way to buff her that change s2 from counter attack to makes all allies attack with basic skill as extra attack although i think people underrated 4 heroes counter at 1 time, just image Afternoon Soak Flan counter with her buff atk and deal about 11k damage.
    With 4 hero counter at one and 32% target max heath additional damage just a few unit in the entire game can survive group attack except mort or roana because these unit designed to counter her right ?

  • @parithsawatdee7897
    @parithsawatdee7897 7 днів тому

    She should be Challenger Lua instead of Dominiel.

  • @Sindiderot
    @Sindiderot 8 днів тому

    2 turn is way too broken
    She has a strip + stun essentially. Even better because units hitting her boosts your team + her mass counter ability.
    Even without the counters she would be able to disable everyone (IGNORE RES), plus the defense buff for the team.

  • @DrROBschiz
    @DrROBschiz 8 днів тому +4

    One thing you are missing is that it also says that if a character with Challenge counter attacks. So any Elbris or elbris like effects count. Any character that innately counter (even if they avoid hitting Lua) count. They still get the benefits. There is a lot of ways to utilize her effects. Is it good or viable? I dunno but we should at least be accurate in describing its use cases. The enemy cleansing provokes isn't really the end of the world for her. Think of her like a support unit for Counter based teams I guess? ML Yufine, Mercedes, Elbris knights, heck she could even be paired with Mort to make him more menacing.

    • @im_Tsu
      @im_Tsu  8 днів тому +2

      I don't understand what you mean by "we should at least be accurate in describing its use cases." As if implying that I'm with holding some information to make her seem worse???
      Even if you Elbris Ritual Counter from another Hero, Challenge states it triggers on Counter and is dispelled after use. So you still got all the same value out of the move as if you attacked Lua...only you didn't get the 10% Combat Readiness. Like...if I didn't think attacking Lua was good...why would I think that Elbris causing us to lose the 10% CR push is good?
      You're saying "Think of her like support unit for Counter based teams" but ... you need to S3 to get Challenge. And once you counter once... Challenge goes away. Until you can Challenge again (S3 again). If she gets cleansed off rip, she does nothing outside of making your Counters hit harder one time.

    • @-8h-
      @-8h- 8 днів тому +1

      What? Did you even read? Her and mort do not work together. He literally counters her.

    • @DrROBschiz
      @DrROBschiz 7 днів тому

      @@-8h- Well I meant having them on the same team but on reflection that is a terrible combo. I still think having AoE S1 counters gets the most value. I get that her design is meant to have you target her and get a triple counter from the rest of the team. Just saying that running something like 3F Belian, Rem, ML Yufine, etc probably is decent value. Something I could see people trying out and wasn't mentioned. Not saying it's good or viable but I just thought Tsu pegged her down really quickly and didn't explore other angles. I do agree that those alternative setups probably aren't going to be good but the distinction that challenge will work even if you don't hit Lua herself is worth noting. It is still a buff to damage to counter units and I already see people thinking about her potential to cycle her S3 once we know what the cooldowns are.

    • @DrROBschiz
      @DrROBschiz 7 днів тому

      @@im_Tsu You get the 10% CR whether challenge is up or not if she sets up and they have to hit her anyways. The point is that setting up challenge is a buff to all counters for one turn. I get that the idea is to have the entire team gang up on the target that is forced to hit Lua from Provoke but I still see more value in the fact that you put up control and boost counter teams that can carry. At the very least AoE counter units get an 8% fixed damage boost if she sets up. Either way its an odd kit and I am not sure how many players will be caught up by any of the potential setups. We will have to see. People are devious in this game. She is unique but seems somewhat limited as far as 5 star ML's go.

  • @kfc902
    @kfc902 7 днів тому

    Increase skill cooldown on s3 and provke cannot be cleansed🤣

  • @greenhearted9433
    @greenhearted9433 7 днів тому

    Its Wednesday my dudes

  • @Michael-y9o5g
    @Michael-y9o5g 8 днів тому

    Correction: They can't nerf characters not named Melissa 😂

  • @Kangaroo-dj3jt
    @Kangaroo-dj3jt 8 днів тому

    I dont think you realize that it she does resolve her s2 you pretty much win. So naturally it shiuldnt be the easiest thing to do

  • @jinjaesan9622
    @jinjaesan9622 8 днів тому +2

    Top tier design but because of her kit its a skip

  • @stiltmouse
    @stiltmouse 7 днів тому

    If we imagine a theoretical high roll, where you have 3 allies all aoe counter with challenge, is that enough to wipe the enemy?
    The damage of those 3 + 24% max health of all enemies.
    IDK I think she is not great currently, but maybe some new unit comes out to complete her squad. (Belian, ML yufine, someone else)
    And then have to draft late/ban certain units… still kind of meh

  • @LucasSesso-z8p
    @LucasSesso-z8p 8 днів тому

    Maybe is a bait... Maybe this "chalenge" surpass Mort's passive...

    • @im_Tsu
      @im_Tsu  8 днів тому +2

      @LucasSesso-z8p Challenge is a status. You need to counter to get the effect of the status. If you can't counter... you can't use the status.

  • @juhom6019
    @juhom6019 7 днів тому

    Not too much pink there🙂

  • @malfunction4076
    @malfunction4076 8 днів тому

    should make it undispellable debuff lul

  • @aura7342
    @aura7342 8 днів тому +1

    I think this character is in a SSV like situation right. Where you clearly have a direction with the kit. But due to hard counters you sre just condemned to 4-5 picks. So in order to be meta relevant you need to not get countered by the meta 1-2-3 picks.
    Thankfully for lua. At least I can't think of many things that will just make her unplayable from 1-2-3. Like mort, roana will hard counter her as highlighted here. But since the unit is a 4-5 pick you will pick her in positions where u can just postban the counter. And mort roana also can't be picked proactively since 3P sharun for example will stomp on mort.
    Now that we are past that I actually thought of her as a setti comp unit. For example if you are playing atywin ddr setti she is great at 4. Because now you have 3 units who have a full strip. And ofc atywin who just does everything. If you put lua on conuter set you can also provoke lock some units. Now what's important in setti comps or vs it is cr push. Lua has a ton of cr push. Idk if it has a cd or not. Or if it's like gpurr where you hit and u get a cr push. But if it's the latter then you land 2 or 3 provokes on your s3 you get a 20 or 30% cr push. That's a ton of tempo. Def buff and proof of valor also give her the survivability to actually stick out on the field as a base speed setti unit.
    So I can see some potential here with this. Of course it's a pretty unique kit. So it's hard to 100% tell what's gonna be the case. But I see her as a setti comp with or against unit where you just leverage her s2 passive, provoke lock, alongside other strips to just control and chip out your opponent.

  • @porkyvonchop6458
    @porkyvonchop6458 7 днів тому

    i want ml ras

  • @klarc0113
    @klarc0113 7 днів тому

    GyaLu could be really interesting w/ ml Celine or ml kayron
    Edit: I did want to add if lua is on the same team as mort and does challenge mort will still proc other allies just won’t

  • @09ALPHAROGUE
    @09ALPHAROGUE 8 днів тому +1

    She basically G.purgis and Bad Cat Armin.
    But on a ranger? This would have been very strong on a tank, but she has no built in survivability on a ranger who are known to be fragile. Also I dislike that all her unique stuff says "Hero only" making her useless outside of PvP

  • @KratosConPelo
    @KratosConPelo 8 днів тому

    She looks amazing but doesn't look like Lua at all for me

  • @ChisatoXtakina
    @ChisatoXtakina 8 днів тому +2

    NO, one can never go wrong with "too much pink"

  • @elseabanquetantiics101
    @elseabanquetantiics101 8 днів тому

    She's HOT garbage, figuratively and literally.
    For some improvements to her kit they can give her strip 2 turns and also a cleanse
    Low cooldown
    Hp scaling on her s1
    Ignore er 10 souls
    Or maybe even giving her s1 a dual like c lilias.

  • @RoseZ7323
    @RoseZ7323 7 днів тому

    ML Lua's design is really cute i love it lol
    But im not sure how i feel about her hit yet
    I will say this
    If she ends up being only okay i honestly think thats fine
    Every ML lately has been like must pull levels, a break is very much needed imo

  • @LULLINK
    @LULLINK 8 днів тому +1

    I think shes fine. Is she broken? No. Does your entire squad countering one unit sound like youre just potentially playing 4v3 when drafted right? Yes.
    And units like this are what im happy to see, less power creep more power diversity.

  • @voldendk2
    @voldendk2 8 днів тому +1

    a character for the girls!!

  • @AnonningAnon
    @AnonningAnon 8 днів тому

    Why is it that my favourite designs in this game always have shit kits?

  • @jean-philipperodriguez3617
    @jean-philipperodriguez3617 8 днів тому

    they nerfed a-lot...

  • @1504chain
    @1504chain 7 днів тому

    THATS NOT GYARU AT ALL

  • @riomiyaichi1368
    @riomiyaichi1368 7 днів тому

    Isn't good? Don't care if its a waifu I pull

  • @Lonesome-Warrior
    @Lonesome-Warrior 8 днів тому

    This should have been a normal summon not mystic. The char is not even good.

  • @Yewrenegade
    @Yewrenegade 8 днів тому +1

    I mean....her Lua design is better than making Lua chocolate

  • @Eatthebread
    @Eatthebread 8 днів тому

    Why would you want aoe 2 turn provoke

    • @im_Tsu
      @im_Tsu  8 днів тому +3

      @Eatthebread I don't really. It's just a weird thing where 1 turn is useless but 2 turn is OP.
      That translates to a bad kit.

  • @christiangaborno9449
    @christiangaborno9449 8 днів тому

    Tbh they should've just made her a karina equivalent or close to karina since i guess we will never get a re run of her and we lack def scaling heroes just my opinion

  • @khallidmubarak-assad678
    @khallidmubarak-assad678 7 днів тому

    Can we stop making rangers!!!

  • @adrianfr05
    @adrianfr05 8 днів тому

    ml adin? so saviour adin?

    • @hanzulco
      @hanzulco 8 днів тому +1

      She have no dark counterpart yet

  • @galibrabat4237
    @galibrabat4237 8 днів тому +1

    She's cute. She's pink. I'm gonna try to pull her. Idc bout stats :D

  • @ouroboros7388
    @ouroboros7388 7 днів тому

    She seems worse than a 3 star :’)

  • @Yumeko119
    @Yumeko119 7 днів тому

    Damn with your logic, ml luna is bad lmao,

    • @im_Tsu
      @im_Tsu  7 днів тому

      @@Yumeko119 Yup.

  • @delta4256
    @delta4256 8 днів тому

    Gyaru isn’t good. Gyaru still getting summoned😈

  • @wendersonemanuel9377
    @wendersonemanuel9377 8 днів тому

    I think Her design is so generic.

  • @eagury
    @eagury 8 днів тому

    gyaru lua yumyum

  • @bonelessthincrust
    @bonelessthincrust 8 днів тому +4

    hate the design tbh and the kit is just as bad... need a complete redesign tbh

  • @GreaterSociety
    @GreaterSociety 8 днів тому

    Who's gyaru

  • @ShioKoori
    @ShioKoori 8 днів тому +1

    I absolutely love Hellion Lua 's design ngl. I dont really care if she is gonna bad, because I am just super happy we get a gyaru-type character outside of the tene skin, because that is one of if not my favorite anime character trope. So i am at least happy I skipped Harsetti. Also I wanna point out: people have been complaining A LOT that all the recent ML5s were must pulls, so I dont get why the same people now complain that she doesnt look busted (that is the reaction I saw online anyway). I also feel like if Mort is half as busted as he looks people are just gonna ban him because they dont wanna deal with it.
    What I do hate is the Spez EE. DDR is already, imo, one of the least fun units to play against and now he gets even more playmates. Maybe I am just doomposting here but I just hope that this doesnt cause another spike in DDR usage. Well...he already is used a lot I feel but you get the idea I hope

  • @RoseSennin
    @RoseSennin 8 днів тому

    Imo could of inverted the ins and outs of the jacket. But uhhh I'm not great at imagining so idk.