The third shot and dinking takes a lot of getting used to. The strategy in doubles is completely different than tennis. Singles in Pickleball is a whole different animal, it’s more like Tennis.
Open paddle angle on volley’s still creeps in sometimes but not often. Backhand drives and dinks (topspin) are difficult bc I was old school 1 handed backhand so way more difficult to impart the topspin w/o strings and fuzzy squishy ball using only one hand. But my slice is very effective and many players do have difficulty with it.
I have a hard time with: 1) half volley - most of them goes in the net 2) resetting a roll volley off the bounce - i try to step back and try to hit the ball at the apex but the ball has too much spin and I am not able to lift it
keeping your paddle lower at your waist at the net may work if your 6' tall, but not if you're 5'2". I've got to have that paddle chest height. Just MHO.
Thanks John! Recently came across your channel. I’m a 4.0 and trying to take my PB game to the next level. I currently play both tennis and PB so this video was especially helpful. Your content is outstanding. Really easy to follow along. No annoying background music. No bs. Succinct and full of great tips. Just really well done overall. Thank you
John this is good stuff. I currently play both Tennis and Pickleball, sometimes even within the same day. I like the areas you focused on for adjustments. From my experience it took me about one full outdoor season to get comfortable with the adjustments. If you have any tips on how to reduce the pain I feel in my knees and lower back from Pickle that I don't get with Tennis, that would be a great follow-up video! Congrats on a great tutorial!
Love your vids John. 40 years tennis player here. I have learned the techniques you talk about here in 1 1/2 years of Pickleball but I still find the paddle head down the most difficult to be consistent with. BTW I think a great part two could be ‘footwork to take’ and ‘Footwork to leave’ video, especially with the split step still important and the crossover steps left behind. Thanks so much for your videos.
Thank you so much for watching and appreciating this video. Keep practicing and it will be natural to you. Thank you for your idea. Could you reply to the pinned comment in this video? I am listing things that you all want to learn more about, so I can shoot about it.
I came from squash, and the tip down roll volley has not come naturally to me, even after two years. It doesn't help matters that I'm 6'4" and those balls are a _long_ ways down below me, which complicates reading the angles. I continue to struggle whenever I have to step wide to the side to pick up a low volley at mid shin, either forehand or backhand, especially if the ball crosses my body at a sharp angle. These are often just mildly boosted pressure dinks, hit very low over the net on a descending trajectory. These are my one remaining gaping hole in my net front coverage. Writing in late August, Ed Ju has a recent clip showing Staksrud beating the Johns brothers by consistently taking outside volley dinks from low off the ground, using a long step sideways with a deep knee bend, rather than shuffling over with both feet. This and the tip down volley roll in closer to my body are my largest remaining holes in my net play as I move into 4.0 territory.
Could you post a drill suggestion for shortening the volley swing? I have seen people stick a ball in their armpit and use a pool noodle, but these aren’t very effective. This has been my biggest transition struggle. I am late on my volleys from over swinging and then I over swing to catch up. Great video as always love your teaching techniques!
yes i did a wall drill routine that would be super helpful for shortening the volley swing and improving your game overall ua-cam.com/video/SQA1Cmb_LDI/v-deo.html
Excellent video! Every mistake you covered described me in my transition from tennis to pickleball. Even though I had not played tennis in 25 years, my brain still retained tennis muscle memory. Very frustrating until I reminded myself to just have fun and enjoy the new relationships I was making.
Great insight on the transition. Need to discuss best way to learn the new behavior.....that is a ball machine! Every one of these requires learning new behavior. You've either got to have a great partner, like your buddy Navratil or Colin Johns... only a ball machine gives you that repetition.....
Really great video, John. This will be very helpful for my students transitioning from tennis to PB. It should be mandatory viewing for former tennis players. Can you follow up with a video discussing which tennis shots work/fail in PB?
Definitely the best video on tennis to pickleball transition! Thanks so much John! I also watched the ready position video with Zane yesterday and plan to bring paddle down more toward waist. The big takeaway tip from this video for me is focusing on dropping head of paddle down more. Can't wait to try on courts today!
I have a question. I have a heavy topspin forehand using a western(pancake grip) when I'm at baseline and then I switch to a continental as I approach the kitchen line to allow neutral volleying on forehand/backhand. My question is: Are you constantly changing grip when you go from dinking to speedups to blocking, to forehand/backhand rolls or do you stay with continental? Others are welcome to comment on this!
I think it’s best to keep the same grip. The game happens so quick at kitchen you can’t be caught worrying about your grip. It’s also keeps your speed ups disguised so your opponents can not tell they are coming. Whatever grip you decide to go w at the line stick w it but that just my opinion
@johncincolapickleball I come from badminton racquet sports background which doesn't have any topspin or underspin. So this video is great and very useful for me.
I like how the example shot you showed was Federer hitting the most unathletic forehand he's probably ever hit in his life lmao. The fact you can accurately show the incorrect form of a stroke is a hugely underrated teaching skill that most peoplewon't fully appreciate.
Thank you for this video. I was a high level tennis player 38 years ago but played here and there. I started playing Pickleball seriously since Jan this year. So far I have been trying to erase the tennis habits and slowly working. I am on my 3rd paddle as I switched to 100% Kevlar and love it with the J2k Pro. I have been playing so much better with the J2k from using 6.0 DBD and Joola Perseus. This video I think put it all together for me for most of my bad habits. The paddle tip down I think is the hardest one along with thinking to loop swing for more power. I have been noticing my wrist control is superior along with paddle position. I have been experimenting different techniques for best results like snapping my wrist on impact on my serves. So this is going to be a long journey to convert but it is slowly working..I feel like I am now a 3.5-4.0 player on most days. When I have focus -I feel like 4.5-5 player. Keep the great videos coming...thank you
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What tennis habits are you still struggling with?
Resets
Consistency
The third shot and dinking takes a lot of getting used to. The strategy in doubles is completely different than tennis. Singles in Pickleball is a whole different animal, it’s more like Tennis.
Open paddle angle on volley’s still creeps in sometimes but not often. Backhand drives and dinks (topspin) are difficult bc I was old school 1 handed backhand so way more difficult to impart the topspin w/o strings and fuzzy squishy ball using only one hand. But my slice is very effective and many players do have difficulty with it.
I have a hard time with:
1) half volley - most of them goes in the net
2) resetting a roll volley off the bounce - i try to step back and try to hit the ball at the apex but the ball has too much spin and I am not able to lift it
keeping your paddle lower at your waist at the net may work if your 6' tall, but not if you're 5'2". I've got to have that paddle chest height. Just MHO.
you know your game best, do what works for you
Thanks John! Recently came across your channel. I’m a 4.0 and trying to take my PB game to the next level. I currently play both tennis and PB so this video was especially helpful.
Your content is outstanding. Really easy to follow along. No annoying background music. No bs. Succinct and full of great tips. Just really well done overall.
Thank you
thank you! glad it is helpful, I also come from a tennis background. subscribe for more helpful tips
John this is good stuff. I currently play both Tennis and Pickleball, sometimes even within the same day. I like the areas you focused on for adjustments. From my experience it took me about one full outdoor season to get comfortable with the adjustments. If you have any tips on how to reduce the pain I feel in my knees and lower back from Pickle that I don't get with Tennis, that would be a great follow-up video! Congrats on a great tutorial!
Love your vids John. 40 years tennis player here. I have learned the techniques you talk about here in 1 1/2 years of Pickleball but I still find the paddle head down the most difficult to be consistent with. BTW I think a great part two could be ‘footwork to take’ and ‘Footwork to leave’ video, especially with the split step still important and the crossover steps left behind.
Thanks so much for your videos.
Thank you so much for watching and appreciating this video. Keep practicing and it will be natural to you.
Thank you for your idea. Could you reply to the pinned comment in this video? I am listing things that you all want to learn more about, so I can shoot about it.
I came from squash, and the tip down roll volley has not come naturally to me, even after two years. It doesn't help matters that I'm 6'4" and those balls are a _long_ ways down below me, which complicates reading the angles.
I continue to struggle whenever I have to step wide to the side to pick up a low volley at mid shin, either forehand or backhand, especially if the ball crosses my body at a sharp angle. These are often just mildly boosted pressure dinks, hit very low over the net on a descending trajectory. These are my one remaining gaping hole in my net front coverage.
Writing in late August, Ed Ju has a recent clip showing Staksrud beating the Johns brothers by consistently taking outside volley dinks from low off the ground, using a long step sideways with a deep knee bend, rather than shuffling over with both feet. This and the tip down volley roll in closer to my body are my largest remaining holes in my net play as I move into 4.0 territory.
Slow motion at contact would be very helpful to see paddle angle and position on spins. Thanks.
Lifetime tennis player making the transition tip down hint is soo helpful
Could you post a drill suggestion for shortening the volley swing? I have seen people stick a ball in their armpit and use a pool noodle, but these aren’t very effective. This has been my biggest transition struggle. I am late on my volleys from over swinging and then I over swing to catch up. Great video as always love your teaching techniques!
yes i did a wall drill routine that would be super helpful for shortening the volley swing and improving your game overall
ua-cam.com/video/SQA1Cmb_LDI/v-deo.html
@@johncincolapickleball
Great drill video!! Thanks so much! This will definitely help!
This is the best video I’ve seen on transitioning from Tennis to Pickleball. Excellent tips.👍🏼
Thank you so much. I am committed to give you more tips.
can I hold paddle grid like tennis?
I picked up two things. I can be lazy on my dinks and I should hit top spin volleys whether it's a punch or a roll. What about the dink approach?
Yeah, PB looks like a lazy/weak man's game.
@@christiandelapena8623 Have you seen the pickleball commercial with the babies/ lol
Excellent video! Every mistake you covered described me in my transition from tennis to pickleball. Even though I had not played tennis in 25 years, my brain still retained tennis muscle memory. Very frustrating until I reminded myself to just have fun and enjoy the new relationships I was making.
Indeed! Enjoy and have fun in the journey. Is there any other mistake that isn't in this video?
I'm closer to ping pong
Truly one of the best analysis on the transition
Thank you.
This is excellent. Thank you
Thanks to you too.
Great insight on the transition. Need to discuss best way to learn the new behavior.....that is a ball machine! Every one of these requires learning new behavior. You've either got to have a great partner, like your buddy Navratil or Colin Johns... only a ball machine gives you that repetition.....
Doesn’t your buddy Zane have a big loop take back on his forehand?
Thank you! Great tips!!!
Glad it was helpful!
Great stuff as always. Thanks John!❤
Glad you loved it. Thank you!
Really great video, John. This will be very helpful for my students transitioning from tennis to PB. It should be mandatory viewing for former tennis players. Can you follow up with a video discussing which tennis shots work/fail in PB?
Thank you for appreciating my video. Let them watch this as well, so they can learn it.
Yes, I'll make a video about that, soon.
Great video! Thank you!
Glad you liked it!
Well done, my guy. 🤜🏼🤛🏼
Thanks man 👍
Definitely the best video on tennis to pickleball transition! Thanks so much John! I also watched the ready position video with Zane yesterday and plan to bring paddle down more toward waist. The big takeaway tip from this video for me is focusing on dropping head of paddle down more. Can't wait to try on courts today!
Thank you. Great Takeaway! Looking forward to providing more helpful tips.
I have a question. I have a heavy topspin forehand using a western(pancake grip) when I'm at baseline and then I switch to a continental as I approach the kitchen line to allow neutral volleying on forehand/backhand. My question is: Are you constantly changing grip when you go from dinking to speedups to blocking, to forehand/backhand rolls or do you stay with continental? Others are welcome to comment on this!
I think it’s best to keep the same grip. The game happens so quick at kitchen you can’t be caught worrying about your grip.
It’s also keeps your speed ups disguised so your opponents can not tell they are coming.
Whatever grip you decide to go w at the line stick w it but that just my opinion
@@OfficialpickleBRAIN Thanks! I appreciate you replying!
yup, backhand ping pong punch, lol
Easily the best transition video I’ve seen yet. Saving it for future reference.
awesome thank you!
Great content!
Thank you!
@johncincolapickleball I come from badminton racquet sports background which doesn't have any topspin or underspin. So this video is great and very useful for me.
Great that this helps you. Could you reply to the pinned comment in this video, any specific question, so I can shoot video about it.
Unlearning tennis was the biggest thing that helped accelerate my pickleball game
Yes, some things must be left out on tennis court. Some skills will be helpful, if you do it the right way.
Can you do to video about the paddle tip down particularly on the backhand dink?
I take note of this. Thank you.
useful tips even without playing tennis
Thank you.
I like how the example shot you showed was Federer hitting the most unathletic forehand he's probably ever hit in his life lmao. The fact you can accurately show the incorrect form of a stroke is a hugely underrated teaching skill that most peoplewon't fully appreciate.
Smooth forehand from Fed and a good example of the length and pathway of the stroke. Fed was stationary, but that doesn't make it unathletic.
Thank you for this video. I was a high level tennis player 38 years ago but played here and there. I started playing Pickleball seriously since Jan this year. So far I have been trying to erase the tennis habits and slowly working. I am on my 3rd paddle as I switched to 100% Kevlar and love it with the J2k Pro. I have been playing so much better with the J2k from using 6.0 DBD and Joola Perseus. This video I think put it all together for me for most of my bad habits. The paddle tip down I think is the hardest one along with thinking to loop swing for more power. I have been noticing my wrist control is superior along with paddle position. I have been experimenting different techniques for best results like snapping my wrist on impact on my serves. So this is going to be a long journey to convert but it is slowly working..I feel like I am now a 3.5-4.0 player on most days. When I have focus -I feel like 4.5-5 player. Keep the great videos coming...thank you
The blue shirt tennis player looks like a 2.5 at best
A $130.59 million career earnings at best methinks
Naw he'd be lucky to even take a game off Nadal