Just consider Beale to be Exhibit A of "A-Type Personality New Owner Syndrome". These guys become billionaires by just running over people in business settings and think they can bring that "can do", hyper-aggressive, hard charging attitude into a new field they _think_ they're familiar with and be instant winners. Plenty of examples say otherwise, lol. Ishbia wanted to be the next Steve Ballmer? How's that working? He was gonna be Mikhail Prokhorov and just money his way into winning?
@@MeMe-jq3ky Absolutely, you thank him for doing his job and being aware. So many love 2 criticize when they think he's not doing his job, so why not give him praises when he does a good job? Is a human being only allowed 2 receive negative feedback and never any positive reinforcement. Should you praise him for the past three years? No, but what about the year before those 3 when he put 2gether a championship team or do we ignore that 17th banner?
@@MeMe-jq3kyexactly… A thank you to Rob😂😂😂😂😂 The dude that passed on Turner for Westbrook…. nah a thank you he won’t get until he does his job and makes the moves to win NOW
🤔Who was crushing him? I don’t remember anyone with half a fucking brain crushing him for that? Are you talking about two morons or crackheads on UA-cam or Twitter? That would’ve been a horrible trade, Beal is one of the most overrated players in league history. I’m actually surprised Rob didn’t do the deal.. and it’s likely his stupid ass actually tried to make the deal and got outbid 😂 .. especially when you consider Beal came from Washington, which is where 50% of Robs trades are with it seems. And you don’t give someone credit for not doing something stupid and actually doing his job, wtf?
Almost, but Harden was/currently is a better guard than Beal 😂 Harden can actually make role players better, and can play alongside stars, because he's a true PG that can break down defenses and facilitate the ball properly.
@@starshipcaptain4753 yeah they should. It starts with the Rockets though. They hold the Suns upcoming picks. And they're going to want D.Booker, as his age is more in line with their youth. Plus a backcourt of Amen Thompson and DBook sounds pretty interesting.
Nobody is taking Beal, trade clause or no trade clause. His statistical performance in relation to his salary is the worst in the league. The Suns are stuck with him.
The bench move is to annoy Beal enough to get him to waive his no trade clause. But no one else wants that's contract on their books either. Not even Miami.
For the last 2 seasons the Lakers have been trying to undo the damage they did to their own roster when they traded for Westbrook. That should be all the cautionary tale that they need.
It is not a depth issue. It is an effort issue from Booker and Beal especially. Those 2 guys flat out do not care that the team loses. If you watch the games you will see how unbothered they are when things don't go their way and how little effort they put forth on defense. It doesn't matter how well they are coached or how many points they score, if they aren't trying then the other team will score more.
they should have kept Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson and just built around Booker. This roster is worse than what they would have had if they hadn't fire sold their roster for a "super" team. The reason they made it to the finals in the first place was all the depth they had. Once they shipped it all out to acquire what they thought would be the best starting lineup in the league it immediately turned into a dumpster fire. They should ship Kevin Durant back to OKC for a truckload of picks and reset this thing before OKC can win a ring without KD.
I like the lineup changes. Plumlee has to be on the court. He's getting older and slower, but he knows his role, and his defense is far better than any other option that they have.
This move actually makes sense. They have no bench. Once the starters go out, they don't usually get anything. Beal is the one of the Big 3 who is least effective in the starting lineup, so let him lead the bench squad. He's still got fire power, just not enough opportunities. Hell, even KD should be taking more shots than he is. No reason he shouldn't average a minimum of 20 shots per game. He's one of the greatest scorers/shooters the league has ever seen. He's averaging over 50% from the field. D-Book takes more shots and has fewer points. Makes sense to me to put it in KD's hands more. Not sure what this is gonna do for their DEF, though...
I said this when they got Beal and say it again... there's simply too much redundancy skill-wise between the 3 stars (great scorers, mediocre defensively, don't elevate others around them, not impactful enough...) The suns sold their sold trading all their wing depth and youth for KD and they're paying for it
Is it fear of backlash from a burner account that shields KD from blame for roster moves? We saw an absolute 💩 show in Brooklyn that ended with KD forcing his way to a contender. In PHX, KD blows up a successful roster, runs off Vogel, and creates another failed super team that someone else has to fix. If this was LeBron, the headlines from mainstream sports media and Podcasters would be relentless. Since it's KD, there hasn't been a peep. I don't understand why?
I’ve been saying that for the longest time! Brad Beal should’ve been coming off the bench it just makes more sense as far as roster construction when D Book & T Jones starting
This is not only a problem of depth (they managed to get Tuys Jones for nothing this year) but it is a problem of synergy. Booker, Bradley and Durant, it is just not working together !!!
How about 3 team trade. Bulls get Beal and Robinson plus 2nd rd pick (via) Heat Heat get Lavine and Nurk plus 2nd rd pick (via) Suns Suns get Butler and Vuc
I'm all for it. Maybe he'll wave his no trade clause and then we can let him go. Either that, or hopefully he'll become 6th man of the year and lead our bench to productivity. I'm game either way.
Everyone hating on beal. This the suns fault for trading for him. Beal has been hurt alot even before the suns traded for him. Everyone calling beal a bum are dumb. The suns were dumb for trading for him. They not smart for thinking having 3 ball dominate players on the team would work. Beal is not bad he just needs the ball in his hands. Thats the type of player he is.
Phx owner blew it, Beal had done nothing in years and was exactly same player as Booker just not as good. Nurkic is decent, but like Ayton he is an easy target, Valanciunos of Washington and Vucevic of Bulls would look the same on Phx yet they are coveted, go figure😮
It worked with the warriors because they had a team full of 2 way players all 2 way players are always better that’s why Tatum and brown best Kyrie and Luka because defense matters and they’re better Tatum is the best young player in the league him and sga but fanboys pick Luka cause of offense same thing with kawhi in his prime vs harden defense made kawhi way better that’s why AD is so great and reaves should come off of the bench he’s only good for offense the warriors had klay at the time second best 2 way wing in the league then Steph isn’t bad plus kd green and iggy plus that bench had west Livingston and other great 2 ways this is why the rockets are so good this year the nets were great that first year cause of the defensive guys they had but got swept the next year cause kyrie can’t defend that’s why LeBron deserved way more credit for winning with him as the second star and Kevin love should’ve got the ball as the second option he played better on defense when he touched the ball that’s went the heat worked cause Wade and Bron on offense didn’t shoot well enough to fit but the defense covered all that up plus Bosh could do both Russ can’t guard a pole should’ve kept kuzma or traded back for BI and still should trade for him and lonzo somehow because 2 way players have no weakness on either end that can be exploited too much I hate the fact people like Ben Wallace and mutumbo had to fight to be in hof when they should be top 75 all time because their defense was so great and is just as important as defense if the nets played mutumbo more against the spurs they would’ve won the finals that year but bad coach Byron Scott went for offense and see what that got him in all over the place but just pointing out why kd self made teams never work he doesn’t get defenders even bron got smith and shump for the Cavs and they should’ve kept everyone they traded kyrie for that year but Thomas and they beat the warriors but the owner was mad Thomas didn’t work so he got rid of Wade and rose guys who would’ve balled out on both ends with bron in the finals so many times I see bad coaches go for offensive role players when all you need is defense around LeBron and AD scoring will never be a option when you have a duo like that same with suns kd and Booker need to be surrounded with defense if you can’t get 2 way players
Trade Booker keep Beal Beal has that dog in him Booker is still soft need more brest milk do that Suns have ah championship this year. BOOKER FOR Jimmy case closed
Not a single team in the NBA wants the Beal contract, they can bench him all they want - they’re stuck with him.
Just consider Beale to be Exhibit A of "A-Type Personality New Owner Syndrome". These guys become billionaires by just running over people in business settings and think they can bring that "can do", hyper-aggressive, hard charging attitude into a new field they _think_ they're familiar with and be instant winners.
Plenty of examples say otherwise, lol. Ishbia wanted to be the next Steve Ballmer? How's that working? He was gonna be Mikhail Prokhorov and just money his way into winning?
All lakers fans should write a thank you note to Rob for not doing a Beal trade.. everyone was crushing him when he didn’t trade for him
Why thank you? For doing his job and being aware? Are we going to thank him for the past 3 years?
@@MeMe-jq3ky Absolutely, you thank him for doing his job and being aware. So many love 2 criticize when they think he's not doing his job, so why not give him praises when he does a good job? Is a human being only allowed 2 receive negative feedback and never any positive reinforcement. Should you praise him for the past three years? No, but what about the year before those 3 when he put 2gether a championship team or do we ignore that 17th banner?
@@MeMe-jq3kyexactly… A thank you to Rob😂😂😂😂😂 The dude that passed on Turner for Westbrook…. nah a thank you he won’t get until he does his job and makes the moves to win NOW
@shanehughes4902 westbrick! Nightmares
🤔Who was crushing him? I don’t remember anyone with half a fucking brain crushing him for that? Are you talking about two morons or crackheads on UA-cam or Twitter? That would’ve been a horrible trade, Beal is one of the most overrated players in league history. I’m actually surprised Rob didn’t do the deal.. and it’s likely his stupid ass actually tried to make the deal and got outbid 😂 .. especially when you consider Beal came from Washington, which is where 50% of Robs trades are with it seems.
And you don’t give someone credit for not doing something stupid and actually doing his job, wtf?
It's like the Nets 2 years ago all over again
Almost, but Harden was/currently is a better guard than Beal 😂
Harden can actually make role players better, and can play alongside stars, because he's a true PG that can break down defenses and facilitate the ball properly.
@berserkmonk5331 Meaning they need to blow it all up including Booker since they can still get a lot for Book and a fair amount for KD
@@starshipcaptain4753 yeah they should.
It starts with the Rockets though. They hold the Suns upcoming picks. And they're going to want D.Booker, as his age is more in line with their youth. Plus a backcourt of Amen Thompson and DBook sounds pretty interesting.
The Nets with KD/Kyrie/Harden were a historic offensive team at the time
bench beal to convince him to waive his no trade clause. genius
No one wants that contract😂
That would be “heaven” for Beal🤣
You are a genius
Great Point!
Nobody is taking Beal, trade clause or no trade clause. His statistical performance in relation to his salary is the worst in the league. The Suns are stuck with him.
Beal trade was even worse then WestBrook
Agreed
The bench move is to annoy Beal enough to get him to waive his no trade clause. But no one else wants that's contract on their books either. Not even Miami.
Orlando might be desperate
50 Million dollar bench player is crazy in the NBA
This should be a cautionary tale for the Lakers if they are thinking of going after Lavine or Butler.
Butler is 10X better than beal and lavine . Lakers need to go after Butler at all cost
@@sting114casual
He's arguably not even better than Lavine much less 10x, please relax lol
@@sting114Good thing you’re not in charge
For the last 2 seasons the Lakers have been trying to undo the damage they did to their own roster when they traded for Westbrook. That should be all the cautionary tale that they need.
As a Lakers fan I’m glad we didn’t trade for Beal. At this point the only player worth trading for is BI
It is not a depth issue. It is an effort issue from Booker and Beal especially. Those 2 guys flat out do not care that the team loses. If you watch the games you will see how unbothered they are when things don't go their way and how little effort they put forth on defense. It doesn't matter how well they are coached or how many points they score, if they aren't trying then the other team will score more.
they should have kept Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson and just built around Booker. This roster is worse than what they would have had if they hadn't fire sold their roster for a "super" team. The reason they made it to the finals in the first place was all the depth they had. Once they shipped it all out to acquire what they thought would be the best starting lineup in the league it immediately turned into a dumpster fire. They should ship Kevin Durant back to OKC for a truckload of picks and reset this thing before OKC can win a ring without KD.
OKC dont want a 35 year old KD.
Beal and his team way smarter than that. He will not waive his no trade clause and still get paid his money. Stay tuned
I like the lineup changes. Plumlee has to be on the court. He's getting older and slower, but he knows his role, and his defense is far better than any other option that they have.
Bron should go and play with KD and Booker
This move actually makes sense. They have no bench. Once the starters go out, they don't usually get anything. Beal is the one of the Big 3 who is least effective in the starting lineup, so let him lead the bench squad. He's still got fire power, just not enough opportunities. Hell, even KD should be taking more shots than he is. No reason he shouldn't average a minimum of 20 shots per game. He's one of the greatest scorers/shooters the league has ever seen. He's averaging over 50% from the field. D-Book takes more shots and has fewer points. Makes sense to me to put it in KD's hands more. Not sure what this is gonna do for their DEF, though...
I said this when they got Beal and say it again... there's simply too much redundancy skill-wise between the 3 stars (great scorers, mediocre defensively, don't elevate others around them, not impactful enough...) The suns sold their sold trading all their wing depth and youth for KD and they're paying for it
Crazy implosion lol
They’re doing this because they want to trade those pieces and don’t want them to get hurt and further hurt their trade value
They did win last night in Philly.
Is it fear of backlash from a burner account that shields KD from blame for roster moves? We saw an absolute 💩 show in Brooklyn that ended with KD forcing his way to a contender. In PHX, KD blows up a successful roster, runs off Vogel, and creates another failed super team that someone else has to fix. If this was LeBron, the headlines from mainstream sports media and Podcasters would be relentless. Since it's KD, there hasn't been a peep. I don't understand why?
the moment they signed Beal it was over and disaster
Phoenix need the League to have a rule change where they can play with three balls... In that way these guys can play together.
Too bad Beal didn’t go to Lakers. Lebron would have made him an allstar again.
Nice sweater where can I get one
Ishmia thought he got 3 Kobe's but it turns out they're not even USDA Choice
I’ve been saying that for the longest time! Brad Beal should’ve been coming off the bench it just makes more sense as far as roster construction when D Book & T Jones starting
This is not only a problem of depth (they managed to get Tuys Jones for nothing this year) but it is a problem of synergy. Booker, Bradley and Durant, it is just not working together !!!
How about 3 team trade.
Bulls get Beal and Robinson plus 2nd rd pick (via) Heat
Heat get Lavine and Nurk plus 2nd rd pick (via) Suns
Suns get Butler and Vuc
Who’s gonna want that Beal contract for the next 3 years
At this point we need a center thats it just a big that plays minutes thats it
As a Suns fan, I hope they don't quadruple down and try to get Butler, even if it means getting rid of Beal.
Heat don't want Beal you're safe
They’re going to scape host the GM by next summer as if the owner ain’t make him make those moves
I'm all for it. Maybe he'll wave his no trade clause and then we can let him go. Either that, or hopefully he'll become 6th man of the year and lead our bench to productivity. I'm game either way.
Lakers need a schedule like that lol
What has KD done since Warriors, had like 10 super teams after that and NOTHING.
They tryna push Bradley Beal out so he can request a trade 😂😂😂. They not slick. They know he has a NO TRADE CLAUSE 😂😂😂
Suns are going to have to give up that 31 first round pick and a swap is it worth it they better win the chip this year or next year
If Phoenix only kept Mikaal and Camara. They're wings would have elite defense Bridges Camara and Dunn
Good. Suns and Clippers thought they could just pay for a championship. It’s good for the sport that they don’t work out.
If Beal wants Lakers and Suns desperate to get rid of him, then Suns should offer us 2 yes 2 FRP heck maybe even 3 just to the trade 😂😂
needless to say suns never shoulda traded for Beal...this is what happens when owners try to run the team when they dont know jack about bball
Durant does not equal winning
What does 2 finals mvp mean then
@Big_AL_Nowitzki you are really going to count him joining the stacked warriors after they beat his Thunder. Look at Brooklyn and Phoenix
@@Big_AL_Nowitzki lol your take is crazy
@@Big_AL_NowitzkiOh pls, he joined a 73-9 team. Anyone could do that and get 2 MVPs.
This is what happens when you gut your bench for a couple of star players. Westbrook 2.0
The Heat don't want Beal
The suns were dumb to make the trade for Beal in the first place. Should have kept Mikal Bridges.
People need to stop looking at Detroit as a likely W....Them days gone!
Miles bridges, nsj, and micic for beal
Everyone hating on beal. This the suns fault for trading for him. Beal has been hurt alot even before the suns traded for him. Everyone calling beal a bum are dumb. The suns were dumb for trading for him. They not smart for thinking having 3 ball dominate players on the team would work. Beal is not bad he just needs the ball in his hands. Thats the type of player he is.
Suns are screwed and only the Rockets can bail them out. Too bad Ishbia has too big an ego to admit he messed up.
Crazy this think they traded for Beal he was always hurt and not worth the contract. . Stupid owners
Bro was trying to to buy a ring and all that came about when the new cba came along as well now there trying to to unload Beal to late now
Mason Bumlee. 😂😂😂😂😂. Oh how I hated watching him play. And yes. I know he can reverse dunk
Theres only one ball. Thats the problem
Ishbia is a lump of goo
Maybe they can fire their coach again?
Blow it up now. Trade Booker and KD
Phoenix Suns stop shooting all in threes and make them play some defense in leave the analytics alone
The suns just looks desperate not the move at all
Bradley Beal to the bench is definitely a smart way to get him to waive his no trade clause.
Phx owner blew it, Beal had done nothing in years and was exactly same player as Booker just not as good. Nurkic is decent, but like Ayton he is an easy target, Valanciunos of Washington and Vucevic of Bulls would look the same on Phx yet they are coveted, go figure😮
No one is gonna trade for Beal.. Too many time missed.
Easy fix trade Beal and a pick for Butler
Lol
Without Golden State KD wouldn’t be nothing all he did was jump on they bandwagon
Beal = highway robbery, $52 mil
KD was never him.
With past history, I expect James Jones to get Jimmey Butler😅😅😅
It worked with the warriors because they had a team full of 2 way players all 2 way players are always better that’s why Tatum and brown best Kyrie and Luka because defense matters and they’re better Tatum is the best young player in the league him and sga but fanboys pick Luka cause of offense same thing with kawhi in his prime vs harden defense made kawhi way better that’s why AD is so great and reaves should come off of the bench he’s only good for offense the warriors had klay at the time second best 2 way wing in the league then Steph isn’t bad plus kd green and iggy plus that bench had west Livingston and other great 2 ways this is why the rockets are so good this year the nets were great that first year cause of the defensive guys they had but got swept the next year cause kyrie can’t defend that’s why LeBron deserved way more credit for winning with him as the second star and Kevin love should’ve got the ball as the second option he played better on defense when he touched the ball that’s went the heat worked cause Wade and Bron on offense didn’t shoot well enough to fit but the defense covered all that up plus Bosh could do both Russ can’t guard a pole should’ve kept kuzma or traded back for BI and still should trade for him and lonzo somehow because 2 way players have no weakness on either end that can be exploited too much I hate the fact people like Ben Wallace and mutumbo had to fight to be in hof when they should be top 75 all time because their defense was so great and is just as important as defense if the nets played mutumbo more against the spurs they would’ve won the finals that year but bad coach Byron Scott went for offense and see what that got him in all over the place but just pointing out why kd self made teams never work he doesn’t get defenders even bron got smith and shump for the Cavs and they should’ve kept everyone they traded kyrie for that year but Thomas and they beat the warriors but the owner was mad Thomas didn’t work so he got rid of Wade and rose guys who would’ve balled out on both ends with bron in the finals so many times I see bad coaches go for offensive role players when all you need is defense around LeBron and AD scoring will never be a option when you have a duo like that same with suns kd and Booker need to be surrounded with defense if you can’t get 2 way players
Trade beal for Butler
Trade booker to houston
Calm down lol. You okay?
Sorry organizations will be sorry that’s just it. Next topic please
Benching russ vibes
Also, don't the Rockets have most of Phoenix's picks? They could be dangling their own picks in front of them, trying to poach KD away.
The Suns were number 1 until KD hurt his ankle.
🤔
Beal to Warriors would be a good fit.
Beal a bust lol
Suns won't be down for long with all that talent
Daurant and beal are past primetime tired of seeing teams make trades that have no impact in some cases it be a disater
Trade Booker keep Beal Beal has that dog in him Booker is still soft need more brest milk do that Suns have ah championship this year. BOOKER FOR Jimmy case closed
Can the Lakers trade for Beal?
No, they don’t need him. He would probably fit better on the Warriors. Lakers need a Center.
Hell no Austin Reaves is better than him and makes 40 million less
Is u smoking crack hell no LA don’t need dat contract
That’s a big Hell no
Don’t want him