I just want to say "thank you" for discussing this obvious phenomenon without being hypersensitive and defensive about it. I truly want to know the "hows" and "whys" about these things.
@@beniyolaviola no its not. Its put on. I have a friend that was normal all through school and then when he came out turned camp as hell. It's completely put on.
Everyone knows buzzfeed quizzes are tripple peer reviewed scientific method following based. Turns out you are straight, I know its hard to process. But if BuzzFeed said it what else is there to do?
I had just got out of prison a few years prior and he spent his entire life in a classroom from student going to Harvard for a phd in classical literature. So I think I had life experiences he respected more than the typical person
@@creativename3256Thank you! I did my thesis on that and was about to comment. I think code switching refers to multi-lingual contexts. Also, there is Interactive Alignment Theory which explains how people adapt their speech but which somewhat disregards the important social factors. :)
I've seen much less discussion of code-switching with regard to multi-lingual situations than to multi-cultural situations. There're a lot of words spent on the topic of codeswitching with regard to dialects and vernacular. At the same time there's a comment like 5 down from this one about English or Spanish, so, maybe I'm full of shit.
As a straight man from a relatively conservative country, me modulating the pitch of my voice has been a perfectly conscious thing to do for years. I've realized since I was a teenager that there is a certain group of people who will only listen to you if you're doing a Tom Waits or Leonard Cohen impression, and having a deep voice myself, I've certainly used that to my advantage. I've also employed that voice when I was a teacher and when I'm speaking to a large group in general. It does work for me when I need it, but it's very dumb that speaking in such a voice makes people listen more, to say nothing of it being unfair to those who can't use that voice.
@@EspeciallyElyou probably can! if you want, you can look up voice masculinization/voice training videos. im trans and those helped me a lot. it does take practice and can be pretty difficult at times but totally worth it to me not assuming anything about your identity but you can totally just take whichever parts are useful and ignore the rest
As controversial as Margaret Tatcher was, she did the same thing so she'll be taken more seriously. Jackie Kennedy also started lowered her tone to increase her likeability to the public during the time JFK was cheating with Marilyn Monroe.
@@maeannengo4908 The most weird sounding example for me is Elizabeth Holmes. It sounds so ridiculously fake I have no idea how anyone took her seriously.
As a voice actor, I can say absolutely yes there is a voice they put on whether it be consciously or subconsciously. It’s all the same voice impression.
So someone can speak like the bearded fella from ASAPScience in regular life, but then if he gets hypnotized, he sounds like some deep-voiced, masculine Russian stud?
Yep, though what I never get is, aside from being attracted to other males, or whomever, which is fine... what's the reason for what frankly sounds like some sorta "affectation", and kinda like an _exaggerated_ version of what women act and sound like? 'Cuz even women never sound like that, at least the ones that I've known.
You're in the entertainment industry (an industry that is very LGBT friendly) yet here you are perpetrating lies that bigots think will justify their prejudice and attacks against us. Wild hill to die on.
2:36 i have noticed this in myself too! my voice is really deep when im talking to myself, and when im socialising at the peak of my confidence it gets slightly high
Unfortunately the question of why the voice exists wasn’t answered. You did show it is quantifiable, but the reasoning behind its existence is still a mystery to me.
I think it's like an accent. It's difficult to pin down when and why some group(s) of people start talking in a particular way, but as time passes the original reason fades away and the subsequent generations are just imitating the previous. Go to another region for an extended period and notice how you end up unconsciously talking like the locals to fit in.
@@ruraladventurer1884Nah, I think most of heterosexual men are not aware that their artificial way of speaking in a limited range of pitch and trying to not maintain vowels too much is performative.
Are you interested in science or been looking into LGBT media? Either of those might be the reason. It could also be this video has become very popular and UA-cam is throwing it out to test its luck.
@@Robin-hp8pu The best way to avoid the algorithm recommending things you don't like is to actually avoid them when they show up. As in, not clicking on the video and not commenting on how much you don't want it recommended. If you, as an example, make a habit of leaving hateful comments, the algorithm merely understands that as engagement, and thus continues recommending you the same kind of content. Do not like? Do not engage. Don't even click on it to give it a dislike.
@@VinAnrbaGay guy here, the voices that we may have are more often than not unintentional. (At least for me) I’ve only ever intentionally done a valley girl accent as a joke, but elements of it creep in when I’m not paying attention.
We all kind of change our voice when talking to different groups and genders. I noticed this when my son was four and started to tell me that he didn't like how people spoke to him. I had trouble figuring out what he meant as he couldn't put it into words. I listened in to his conversations at the park, with adults and children, and realized that people assumed that he was a girl because of his long hair. He didn't want to cut his hair so we tried a kind of "messy" low ponytail and extra "masculine" clothing (like dinosaurs, Star wars and khaki shorts) but people kept saying "sweetie" to him, it seemed to get worse for him because they perceived him as a masculine girl and were trying to support "her" in this "you go girl" kind of way. He got more and more upset and shouted "I'm a BOY!!!" when anyone spoke to him. Finally he just cut his hair and didn't have any more problems.
very sad that our societal expectations trying to fit us into something binary affected your sons gender expression. reminds me of myself a month ago trying to find a hairdresser to just chop my hair off in a unisex cut because I just wanted to get rid of my ponytail and not ask me for double the amount they would to a man just because i'm born with a vag!na. I'm a Demi-Girl btw, born female but my gender expression is between female and non-binary. like I didn't want a fancy or even feminine cut at all, just an extremely simple one where I wouldn't look ridiculous. the shortest you can cut with scissors, all around the head. If a clipper had a setting to that length i would of done it myself.
@@tornadodee148I don’t think it’s the societal binary thing, OP even said people were trying to support the androgyny but it was just a boy that liked long hair. That’s not a gender thing
im a 58 yr old w st. male w/a deep voice but i can talk to my cat in an exact imitation of a high-pitched shrieking blk woman...and my cat really seems to love it too!
I learned as a kid to talk to cats and dogs in a higher pitch, because it gets their attention. It's better for their range of hearing and they know you're talking to them. People that talk to their pets like they're human are weird.
My hypothesis is that it’s a combination of acting / theater backgrounds and wanting to sound less “threatening” than other men. From there, it took off as a shared accent. I’m sure someone could do the research to figure out where it started.
I wonder if these studies looked into affectation. Affectation can become so habitual that it evolves into a stable aspect of a person's speech, effectively becoming part of their accent. This process involves both cognitive and social factors, leading to the internalization of speech patterns that were initially adopted deliberately. As these patterns become habitual, they lose their conscious, performative nature and become a natural part of the individual's speech repertoire.
Would this be then consider as an accent rather than a Affectation? The inception of it might've had some version of affectation due to social environments, but just as any accent it was evolved and adapted culturally.
@@Josue-cy3sk Thank you for the insightful question. My inquiry was whether any studies have investigated the distinction between affectation and accent, or the impact of affectation on accent development. Since my initial post, I have researched this topic further and found that a few studies have considered affectation. These studies concluded that, in some cases, affectation could either be merely an affectation or one of the many variables contributing to the development of an accent. However, the studies did not provide clear percentages. Affectations differ from accents in that they are deliberate rather than arising from natural adaptive processes. This distinction prompted my question: To what extent is an accent shaped by cultural surroundings and subconscious adaptation, versus how much is influenced by artificially induced affectations that later become ingrained?
It is exactly affectation. A mating call shared by a subspecies where visual clues are not always adequate for determination. Examples gym, workplace, subway.
Interesting video, however you didn't really explicitely answer the question "why" but you showed that it's true. My understanding it that it's a social subconscious strategy for better interactions with people.
I think the point of the video was to examine where or not there was a difference by examining empirical evidence. The why could take up its own video.
@@jm7804they literally actively choose to sound different when they make the conscious decision to utter a noise that much didn't need explaining they aren't just cursed to talk like that because they want to sit on a point instead of a surface
Many stereotypes have some truth to them. The problem is when they are assumed to be or are emphasized over traits of a person just because they are part of that group.
This is fascinating! Thank you. As someone who studied linguistics in college, I loved the aspect of “code-switching,” which refers to how people switch languages or linguistic patterns based on their audience. I once saw a woman chatting with friends in English pop off a quick comment in ASL (American Sign Language), followed by a question to another student in her native Mandarin - without missing a single beat. That’s an extreme example, but your discussion of modulating voice pitch as a means of identifying in-group and tempering conversation with out-group members (there’s a pun in there somewhere that turns those designations on their heads…) just blew me away. Excellent post! Again: Thank you.
I'd love if they'd answer the question instead of giving half information, whoring out their other products, and then give a blatantly wrong guess given the content they just communicated and then end the video.
My read has always been that straight men are confined to percievedly masculine signifiers. Considering how a lot of studies of men's mental health focus on the societal expectation that they aren't allowed expression outside of anger etc. it stands to reason that when a man comes to terms with the Idea that they aren't like most other men, they become a lot more sincere in various ways, vocal expression being one of them.
I'm a straight guy but people always tell me how soft I speak. And the voice modulation explanation makes a lot of sense. I remember very vividly when I was around 13 and the other boys started practicing their "manly" deep voice to sound more adult and more male. I think they did it without even noticing, kind a like a social pressure. But for some reason I noticed and I for me it was ridiculous so never bothered.
True individuality right there! Don’t be a copycat, everybody’s voice is probably a lot more different than what it seems but we won’t ever know how different everyone is because of peer pressure. Having a soft voice is actually quite comforting to many people. It’s why David Attenborough is very popular as well. :)
Hearing you pronounce "men" as a three-syllable, pitch-shifting "mehh-ehhh-ehhn" puts all of this in perfect context 😂 Thank you for always sharing such wonderful scientific insights with us! Great video as usual :)
Answer is no. lol. Though, the video did show some things that provide reasoning, stating otherwise. Unless your only example is a stereotype, it's no.
I get mistaken for Jewish sometimes. My nose is the thing I think. I broke it when I was 14. Also I live in an area with a lot of Jewish people, which means people around here are already more primed to figure someone they’re randomly interacting with may be.
a similar thing happens to me. I'm a white brazilian with portuguese/italian heritage and people all around the world swear to God I'm arab hahaha I guess it's mediterranean thing where italian, portuguese, spanish and greek men are like the "white" version of arabs
My (very Catholic) grandfather was often mistakenly seen as Jewish. We had our DNA ancestry done fully expecting to find Jewish ancestry, but we have none. My grandfather owned his own business in a city in New Jersey that has a large Jewish population, so maybe he just had social characteristics of Jewish people.
This is one of those videos that randomly pops in your feed and you go like “Huh… I’ve never wondered about that.” Then you spend the next 5 minutes like this: 🤔
Actually, it should've been all the way "ah", "eh", "ee", "oh", and "oo", since we're talking about the basic vowel sounds, not the names of the letters used to represent them.
@@ThomashorsmanEnglish isn’t phonetically consistent tho. Yes, you’re right about “uniform“ but what about “unimportant“ or “Jupiter“? The U is pronounced differently in every example. There are even words in the English language that are spelled exactly the same but pronounced differently depending on the meaning, e.g. “The wind blows“ and “I need to wind down“.
I'm a straight man and I like your channel because no matter the subject you guys tell the truth. I don't have to fact check. Plus I love your positive and humorous attitude, who doesn't want that. Thank you. When you get the lesbian thing figured out, please let us know, I've made this mistake often, I haven't got a clue, unless that's just another...
Sounds like lazy behavior. Just because someone sounds factual or provides statistics/research doesn't make their information true. It's well known that sounding confident makes people more likely to believe you, but you should still do your due diligence and look things up. Even guys like Louis Rossmann, who go against the grain and try to provide accurate information with tons of links to back up his claims and arguments, will tell you not to believe him and go look for yourself. It's how guys like Andrew Tate and Fresh n' Fit got so many young guys to follow them. 80% of their rhetoric is the truth or is at least seemingly true about the pandemic modern males face, but the last 20% is just them spewing bullshit philosophies and leading them astray so they can peddle their merch and empty those young men's money.
The "voice" is probably a cultural signal and/or pattern of sorts. There is lots of emotional expression in the flamboyance and the voice. Like wearing your heart on your sleeve.
Perhaps it's a sub culture that transcends national borders and has had almost 40 years to globally homogenise through shared media and cultural exchange. HOLY SHIT. THINK! @@seigeengine
From watching videos of both straight and lesbian women do gaming live streams, a pattern I noticed is that the lesbian women sound, I'm not sure if this is the right way to put it, somewhat more masculine than the straight women. But just like they said in this video, it's not quite the same kind of masculine sound as a straight man talking.
Interesting. I was always curious about this trend but thought it was taboo to ask or talk about it. Thanks for making this video topic and backing with research.
I haven’t been more excited over a video title in a while. The questions I ask in my head, but don’t know where to ask without getting skewered by sensitive people.
You don't really explain why. You explained why they purposely enhance it or lessen it. But I mean what started it? Homosexuals go back to the beginning of time. But the firsts probably didn't talk like that.
@@Starlight81781 exactly. I feel like over time me and my friend group have started to sound extremely similar to eachother after like 10 years knowing eachother, and ive noticed the same thing with other close friends. It really does shape the way we behave over time.
Thank you! I'm fascinated by how people speak, accents, dialects, and all, and I looked for anything on this subject for years with no luck. This is the video I've been waiting for. Great stuff!
In a society, the way everyone speaks is performative. Our style of speech inherently conveys a message about ourself to others in every single interaction. We learn many of these standards in early childhood, and throughout the rest of our lives. These ideas are also reinforced or challenged with every interaction we participate in and witness. Your style of speech is directly informed by ideas about how you should talk based on your gender, orientation, socioeconomic status, racial/ethnic identity, and much more. There isn’t such a thing as a speaking style that isn’t performative.
My burning question is about the hand dangling thing, especially when we're doing something with one hand and the other hand is just limp but we're holding our arm up🧐
Could be from hypermobility. Joint hypermobility is more common in the lgbtq+ community and people do "t rex" hands to compensate for shoulder instability.
5:00 There's also(I think)... Different nationalities having different faces, although I think that's due to something like pitch variation, but for facial expressions instead? Not sure, but I'd definitely be able to pass for an American based on facial appearance alone potentially... but possibly not.
i made a comment awhile back on one of your videos. that i realized you might have taken negatively. i actually love you voice and the way you speak. the comment likely didn't convey that though. without the context of having actually known me i'm not always the best at conveying stuff. sorry if it caused you stress
one of my friends specifically uses such a different voice when talking to his family than when talking to his friends, he's not out to his family but is to his friends and the difference is STAGGERING. i'm afab and my voice gets lower when talking to friends and higher when talking to strangers so idk
When I'm with straight friends, my tone and even vocabulary changes naturally to suit who I'm with. Versus when I'm with women and my voice naturally changes as if to say "I'm not a predator. I'm a friend"
@@dreadwinter I think what he meant or more what I meant is that it’s us signaling we just want a friendship and nothing more because if you’re really close to a straight female and you as a male are thought to be straight, for example, the relationship might go a totally different direction.
Finally… the question everyone was always just too afraid to ask 😂
Did they answer it, though?
Thanks to the internet haha
@@PS-qn4oz Yeah. I’d say they answered it really well actually.
@@austinfrm9207 So it's usually a choice, not a biological thing?
@@PS-qn4oz It sounds more like a good combination of social/environmental factors.
Bursting into song for no reason during a sentence is also a giveaway.
Are you watching me?
@@Cat_king3 No, what are you doing?
I never seen that but that's funny
I sang "give awaaayyy" in my head as I read that.
😆😆😆Stop telling them all our secrets!
It isn’t simply a vocal thing. There’s a whole radar to detecting these things. A sixth sense. A Gaydar.
My mom claims to have it
I like the theory that it’s just the natural male voice but straight men pitch it down to seem more masculine
@@brittvny27 Interesting 🤔
It's an aura.
gaydar? i think you can buy one at Sharper Image
I just want to say "thank you" for discussing this obvious phenomenon without being hypersensitive and defensive about it. I truly want to know the "hows" and "whys" about these things.
It’s just good to know that it’s disingenuous and they’re forcing themselves to sound like that.
@@trackbbboyjack6909 as is your voice. everything is learned.
fr
@@beniyolaviola no its not. Its put on. I have a friend that was normal all through school and then when he came out turned camp as hell. It's completely put on.
"I truly want to know the how's and whys"
Don't lie brah you just bored it's alright😂
The most out of pocket notification ☠️
not really
FR, i was like is this homophobic?? (Im straight)
@@otats1235 same
ONG
it got recommended to me when i havent got their videos popping up in my feed for years
That Buzzfeed quiz I took on Facebook in 2011 said I was straight. Are you telling me that wasn't scientific enough?
Not possible, its common knowledge that Buzzfeed quizzes are scientifically ironclad.
Everyone knows buzzfeed quizzes are tripple peer reviewed scientific method following based. Turns out you are straight, I know its hard to process. But if BuzzFeed said it what else is there to do?
Getting your news from Buzzfeed alone triggers my gaydar.
Just wanted to say that it was refreshing to see three people in a row in on a joke.
@@joshiepoohgetting their news from Buzzfeed triggers the gaydar, taking a quiz on Buzzfeed locks it in. LOL!
Yall both have THAT voice 💀 I just knew already
Nah fr 😭 from the first vid I saw
The mannerisms too. You know they fruity
@@kiliaano9917That’s why they draw characters for kids while accepting money from Biden. Corporate broomers.
so off topic but I love ur pfp cus I love that game 🤌🤌🤌
Someone lived under a rock the last 10 years xD
As a straight guy, I have always pondered this question. Great video
Me 2
I have always had a theory
@Badbigboy123 and you're basing that on what?
I had just got out of prison a few years prior and he spent his entire life in a classroom from student going to Harvard for a phd in classical literature. So I think I had life experiences he respected more than the typical person
"Father, when can I leave to be on my own" 😩💅
i've got a WHOLE WORLD TO SEE~
LMFAOO I LOVE THIS😭😭😭
Lol
OH MY GOSH I FORGOT THIS EXISTS 💀💀💀💀
I've got the whole worldussy 💅✨ 🌈
Such an awesome subject matter. Always found this deeply interesting thanks for making this.
Shut up (jk ur kinda cool)
Hello garrett- love your videos man!!!
omg!! Hi Garrett I love your videos!!❤️❤️❤️
Hi
Omg Garrett!! I love you so much and every video you make!!
Now lets talk about the excessive hand and head movements. 😅
Could be Italian
4:38
@@zurielsss probably a mix of Italian (hands) and Indian (head)
@@timkrash9190 curry pizza?
More likely adopted from the colorful ways black women express themselves
watching a whole study over this is really entertaining in a funny way
Too bad there is no actual answer why?
You're not entertaining in a way that makes it clear you're not funny.
@@GrindHubs What??
@@volodymyrs.9626because it’s all a lie. They’re over eccentric and trying to sound that way. It not natural at all.
It’s sexual appropriation
usually its the valley girl accent that gives it away.
And you can notice the same accent in every country, regardless of the language spoken
@@Foreignmonk34 the accent of stupid, irresponsible, devil-may-care and indifferent behavior is international.
yes even they were never from there lol pop culture is to blame
Shoewws!!
HEEEEEEEYNNNNNN KWEEENNNNNN SLAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY
The part where you imitate a straight man with the "hey bro youwannadosumsunday" was painfully accurate. Loved this video!
As a straight manitekffensetotha
Only accurate if that person was born after 2001. Normal people don't speak that way.
It sounded like he turned straight for a second.
I actually laughed out loud when he said that.
*the part where you try to sound normal
they just sound like valley girls with a dude voice
Why do they talk like that 24/7
@@Iknowyoumadnowdid you watch the video?
Some guys would definitely put it on
@@Iknowyoumadnow They subconsciously make their voices more feminine to attract men
lol never thought about that but it's true
0:10 no need for air quotes for this one
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It's the "theatrical hand gestures"😂
ur messy! 😂
It’s called code switching. Changing your manner of speech and mannerisms depending on the people around you.
Or communication accommodation theory
@@creativename3256Thank you! I did my thesis on that and was about to comment. I think code switching refers to multi-lingual contexts. Also, there is Interactive Alignment Theory which explains how people adapt their speech but which somewhat disregards the important social factors. :)
I've seen much less discussion of code-switching with regard to multi-lingual situations than to multi-cultural situations. There're a lot of words spent on the topic of codeswitching with regard to dialects and vernacular.
At the same time there's a comment like 5 down from this one about English or Spanish, so, maybe I'm full of shit.
Everyone does this. You don't act the same way around your family as you do your friends or coworkers.
I thought about this too. I think there’s a couple more factors too it as well though, like the ones discussed in the vid
The gaydar has leveled up
The knobgobbler detector!
@@ConservativeGrouch no diddy
upgraded to GPASS? -- i'll see myself out
Flamer
Gaydar increased to 100
My boyfriend be walking by my side sounding like this “🤡🐥🥧🥺”
But then he finds a random guy from college and starts speaking like this: 🐆🍺⚽️
My friend sound like this : 👩❤️👨🎣🎮🏹
Why the joker face?! 😭😭😭
Chicken pot pie 🥧 to beer 🍺?
You suck. He deserves better
"My boyfriend be walking..."???
THANK YOU FOR PUTTING YOUR REFERENCES IN THE DESCRIPTION
Plagiarism and you(tube)
As a straight man from a relatively conservative country, me modulating the pitch of my voice has been a perfectly conscious thing to do for years. I've realized since I was a teenager that there is a certain group of people who will only listen to you if you're doing a Tom Waits or Leonard Cohen impression, and having a deep voice myself, I've certainly used that to my advantage. I've also employed that voice when I was a teacher and when I'm speaking to a large group in general. It does work for me when I need it, but it's very dumb that speaking in such a voice makes people listen more, to say nothing of it being unfair to those who can't use that voice.
Conversely, as an AFAB person with a high-pitched voice, I wish I could modulate my pitch to be taken seriously by that same subset...
@@EspeciallyElyou probably can! if you want, you can look up voice masculinization/voice training videos. im trans and those helped me a lot. it does take practice and can be pretty difficult at times but totally worth it to me
not assuming anything about your identity but you can totally just take whichever parts are useful and ignore the rest
@@happydogg312 It stands for Assigned Female At Birth!
As controversial as Margaret Tatcher was, she did the same thing so she'll be taken more seriously.
Jackie Kennedy also started lowered her tone to increase her likeability to the public during the time JFK was cheating with Marilyn Monroe.
@@maeannengo4908 The most weird sounding example for me is Elizabeth Holmes. It sounds so ridiculously fake I have no idea how anyone took her seriously.
That straight guy impression at 2:11 was amazing.
We really are like that. Had me crying laughing 😂
Bro I feel attacked
Just cause it’s correct doesn’t make it right 😢😢
Lmao
Sounded like an Elvis impression.
It sounds like my sister making fun of her husband 😂😭
As a voice actor, I can say absolutely yes there is a voice they put on whether it be consciously or subconsciously. It’s all the same voice impression.
So someone can speak like the bearded fella from ASAPScience in regular life, but then if he gets hypnotized, he sounds like some deep-voiced, masculine Russian stud?
though you say subconsciously it's put on too, so I am not sure what you mean then.
Yep, though what I never get is, aside from being attracted to other males, or whomever, which is fine... what's the reason for what frankly sounds like some sorta "affectation", and kinda like an _exaggerated_ version of what women act and sound like? 'Cuz even women never sound like that, at least the ones that I've known.
You're in the entertainment industry (an industry that is very LGBT friendly) yet here you are perpetrating lies that bigots think will justify their prejudice and attacks against us. Wild hill to die on.
@@matonmongo What about black women?
2:36 i have noticed this in myself too! my voice is really deep when im talking to myself, and when im socialising at the peak of my confidence it gets slightly high
Unfortunately the question of why the voice exists wasn’t answered. You did show it is quantifiable, but the reasoning behind its existence is still a mystery to me.
That's because it's 100% performative and they know it.
I think it's like an accent. It's difficult to pin down when and why some group(s) of people start talking in a particular way, but as time passes the original reason fades away and the subsequent generations are just imitating the previous. Go to another region for an extended period and notice how you end up unconsciously talking like the locals to fit in.
@@ruraladventurer1884Nah, I think most of heterosexual men are not aware that their artificial way of speaking in a limited range of pitch and trying to not maintain vowels too much is performative.
@@ruraladventurer1884 Except no it isn't for the reasons stated in the video, homophobe.
@@ruraladventurer1884like they are pretending to be someone else... and only some do it... almost like a trauma response?
Talking to Bros: "Hey"
Talking to my cat: "Hey love bugggggy, show me that bellllly"
It would be a bit weird if you asked them to show you their bellies
@@n1ppe my cat loves belly rubs
@@logank444 most cats do you arent special
@@SAINTxSZN bro hes not trying to be "special", he just answered the other guy, quit being a prick
How I talk to my cats is the same way I talk to my bros
The real question is why is this in my feed
Are you interested in science or been looking into LGBT media? Either of those might be the reason. It could also be this video has become very popular and UA-cam is throwing it out to test its luck.
Same question here. Yuck and wtf
@@Robin-hp8pu The best way to avoid the algorithm recommending things you don't like is to actually avoid them when they show up. As in, not clicking on the video and not commenting on how much you don't want it recommended. If you, as an example, make a habit of leaving hateful comments, the algorithm merely understands that as engagement, and thus continues recommending you the same kind of content. Do not like? Do not engage. Don't even click on it to give it a dislike.
Because you spread your cheeks for shrek.
@@Robin-hp8pu The UA-cam gods already know what you are into bud. Might as well come out of the closet.
1:32 how does one's collar achieve this altitude?
LMAO 😂
I never would have googled this. Couldn't resist the curiosity it provided. Thanks for the scientific analysis and always entertaining explaining.
now i wanna know about bisexuals
@@nathan9901as a bi guy, I don't think there is a bi voice. Maybe there is and I just didn't notice it.
@CoasterMan13Official yeah I'm bi too that's why I'm curious. I wonder if liking men more than women impacts anything
It just sounds like a man attempting to do a valley girl voice
SO TRUE OMG
Doesn’t just sound like it literally is
Yes. A Valley of the Dolls voice.
This is LITERALLY what it is lol. Not them here trying to "scientifically" explain why
@@VinAnrbaGay guy here, the voices that we may have are more often than not unintentional. (At least for me) I’ve only ever intentionally done a valley girl accent as a joke, but elements of it creep in when I’m not paying attention.
Someone is looking turtelly enough for the turtle club.
Turtle turtle
😂
“You have a LiTlE wiener, and some tinyy nuts. Hoya.” 😂 Love that movie
So that movie wasn't just a fever dream 🤣
I couldn't help but read that in his voice 😂
Wow, this was fascinating. I have no idea how it ended up in my feed, but the algorithm did well here.
I'm glad you pointed that out, that collar is OUT OF CONTROL!
Feeling pretty straight-dude here having not noticed till he mentioned it.
LMAOOO WHY WOULD YOU POINT THAT OUT
me, before i saw the item in question: ?what collar?
me, seeing it: oh, _that_ collar. yow.
That shirt makes him look like a turtle
We all kind of change our voice when talking to different groups and genders. I noticed this when my son was four and started to tell me that he didn't like how people spoke to him. I had trouble figuring out what he meant as he couldn't put it into words. I listened in to his conversations at the park, with adults and children, and realized that people assumed that he was a girl because of his long hair. He didn't want to cut his hair so we tried a kind of "messy" low ponytail and extra "masculine" clothing (like dinosaurs, Star wars and khaki shorts) but people kept saying "sweetie" to him, it seemed to get worse for him because they perceived him as a masculine girl and were trying to support "her" in this "you go girl" kind of way. He got more and more upset and shouted "I'm a BOY!!!" when anyone spoke to him. Finally he just cut his hair and didn't have any more problems.
very sad that our societal expectations trying to fit us into something binary affected your sons gender expression. reminds me of myself a month ago trying to find a hairdresser to just chop my hair off in a unisex cut because I just wanted to get rid of my ponytail and not ask me for double the amount they would to a man just because i'm born with a vag!na. I'm a Demi-Girl btw, born female but my gender expression is between female and non-binary.
like I didn't want a fancy or even feminine cut at all, just an extremely simple one where I wouldn't look ridiculous. the shortest you can cut with scissors, all around the head. If a clipper had a setting to that length i would of done it myself.
Sad
@@tornadodee148I don’t think it’s the societal binary thing, OP even said people were trying to support the androgyny but it was just a boy that liked long hair. That’s not a gender thing
@@tornadodee148I want a clipper with a longer setting too!
Wow🥺
as a Bi person I’ve thought about my speech in relation to passing for straight a lot. Interesting stuff thank you!
Irrelevant
@@nowirehangers2815 and..?
Your poor parents
Same.
@@lobotomy4zombii just be normal
The longest short ever
I change my voice to sounds like a total weirdo when I'm talking to my dogs... But they seem to like it.
im a 58 yr old w st. male w/a deep voice but i can talk to my cat in an exact imitation of a high-pitched shrieking blk woman...and my cat really seems to love it too!
I also change the pitch of my voice when I'm talking to your dogs.
I do something similar with the cat and 2yr old hoomans.
Oh yeah, cat voice is its own thing too. Mine sounds like a straight up maniacal baby voice and my cats go nuts for it.
I learned as a kid to talk to cats and dogs in a higher pitch, because it gets their attention. It's better for their range of hearing and they know you're talking to them. People that talk to their pets like they're human are weird.
Hey you totally cracked me up when you mimicked the "straight guy speech pattern" with less distinct verbal articulation. Well done!
Same here I was CACKLING lmaoooo
yes that was good!!!👍
"...from low to,, ʰʰⁱⁱⁱⁱᵍʰ !!!" 😂
Basically it's like an accent, so it's not entirely a random phenomenon.
My hypothesis is that it’s a combination of acting / theater backgrounds and wanting to sound less “threatening” than other men. From there, it took off as a shared accent. I’m sure someone could do the research to figure out where it started.
@@username00009my guess is that they start sounding more like women so they do an exagurated teen girl sccent
So, the opposite to Obama… he starts high, then ends low. 😂
This is actually really interesting! Thank you for this content!
That "k, what?" at 2:14 is the most relatable reaction.
What
I wonder if these studies looked into affectation. Affectation can become so habitual that it evolves into a stable aspect of a person's speech, effectively becoming part of their accent. This process involves both cognitive and social factors, leading to the internalization of speech patterns that were initially adopted deliberately. As these patterns become habitual, they lose their conscious, performative nature and become a natural part of the individual's speech repertoire.
isnt vocal fry/creaky voice an affectation? this is probably a similar type of thing.... you do it for so long, it just becomes what you do...
@@xisotopex I don't think so. I think that's actually a variation in the larynx as the vocal cords vibrate. Of course, someone can play it up or down.
Would this be then consider as an accent rather than a Affectation? The inception of it might've had some version of affectation due to social environments, but just as any accent it was evolved and adapted culturally.
@@Josue-cy3sk Thank you for the insightful question. My inquiry was whether any studies have investigated the distinction between affectation and accent, or the impact of affectation on accent development. Since my initial post, I have researched this topic further and found that a few studies have considered affectation. These studies concluded that, in some cases, affectation could either be merely an affectation or one of the many variables contributing to the development of an accent. However, the studies did not provide clear percentages.
Affectations differ from accents in that they are deliberate rather than arising from natural adaptive processes. This distinction prompted my question: To what extent is an accent shaped by cultural surroundings and subconscious adaptation, versus how much is influenced by artificially induced affectations that later become ingrained?
It is exactly affectation. A mating call shared by a subspecies where visual clues are not always adequate for determination. Examples gym, workplace, subway.
Interesting video, however you didn't really explicitely answer the question "why" but you showed that it's true. My understanding it that it's a social subconscious strategy for better interactions with people.
3:53
I think the point of the video was to examine where or not there was a difference by examining empirical evidence. The why could take up its own video.
@@jm7804the title says why. This should have been that video
@@jm7804they literally actively choose to sound different when they make the conscious decision to utter a noise that much didn't need explaining they aren't just cursed to talk like that because they want to sit on a point instead of a surface
I guess it's valid to only have theories on why, especially if they're backed up by actual observations that could lead you to think that.
So, is this proving that stereotypes are true?
Many stereotypes have some truth to them. The problem is when they are assumed to be or are emphasized over traits of a person just because they are part of that group.
@@zombies4evadude24 accurate!
@@zombies4evadude24it is fine to pre-judge someone
@@fhfbjufhwflpkpldxeh6070 Or pedós traveling the world for pedorings being mostly "from western audience's" wka light skinned 😂
@@fhfbjufhwflpkpldxeh6070 Yep, It's part of our survival instinct. Pattern-recognition is good.
Thank you! I used to study linguistics and I rarely find about recent linguistics scientific breakthroughs, I'm glad to hear about one here!
This is fascinating! Thank you. As someone who studied linguistics in college, I loved the aspect of “code-switching,” which refers to how people switch languages or linguistic patterns based on their audience. I once saw a woman chatting with friends in English pop off a quick comment in ASL (American Sign Language), followed by a question to another student in her native Mandarin - without missing a single beat. That’s an extreme example, but your discussion of modulating voice pitch as a means of identifying in-group and tempering conversation with out-group members (there’s a pun in there somewhere that turns those designations on their heads…) just blew me away. Excellent post! Again: Thank you.
I'd love if they'd answer the question instead of giving half information, whoring out their other products, and then give a blatantly wrong guess given the content they just communicated and then end the video.
My read has always been that straight men are confined to percievedly masculine signifiers. Considering how a lot of studies of men's mental health focus on the societal expectation that they aren't allowed expression outside of anger etc. it stands to reason that when a man comes to terms with the Idea that they aren't like most other men, they become a lot more sincere in various ways, vocal expression being one of them.
Finally some good insight under this video lol
what about men that aren't in normal societal groups or are just kinder/not angry. They sound straight to me still
Definitely not.
Sometimes men are just masculine and quite happy to be.
@@supercal333
Oh no the horror
dad when I can leave to be on my OWNNNNN 1:21
I'm a straight guy but people always tell me how soft I speak. And the voice modulation explanation makes a lot of sense. I remember very vividly when I was around 13 and the other boys started practicing their "manly" deep voice to sound more adult and more male. I think they did it without even noticing, kind a like a social pressure. But for some reason I noticed and I for me it was ridiculous so never bothered.
That's too bad. I feel for you. Some of us discover very late that Exercising muscles > not exercising muscles, including the voice.
True individuality right there! Don’t be a copycat, everybody’s voice is probably a lot more different than what it seems but we won’t ever know how different everyone is because of peer pressure.
Having a soft voice is actually quite comforting to many people. It’s why David Attenborough is very popular as well. :)
@@OdaKa does deepening your voice exercise it? Does lightening it? Or playing around in general with it. Actually curious
@@plantinapot9169 Yes
@@OdaKa Very clarifying, graci
Hearing you pronounce "men" as a three-syllable, pitch-shifting "mehh-ehhh-ehhn" puts all of this in perfect context 😂 Thank you for always sharing such wonderful scientific insights with us! Great video as usual :)
The short answer is yes.(No I didn't watch the video)
Answer is no. lol.
Though, the video did show some things that provide reasoning, stating otherwise. Unless your only example is a stereotype, it's no.
And there’s no real reason to, everyone knows you can “hear” it 🤢 😂
@@Honeneko.Answer is denial. We can hear your hormone imbalance out loud. It’s a biological warning.
@@Honeneko.Everyone obviously hears it.
@@Honeneko. Are you deaf, honestly?
Guys, this is the answer I have been searching for! Thanks for the information! ❤
I live in NYC. I was told by many people that I have jew face. I am actually catholic. but old Jewish women love me.
You probably have ashkenazi DNA 😊 there are features visible in many of the faces.
I get mistaken for Jewish sometimes. My nose is the thing I think. I broke it when I was 14. Also I live in an area with a lot of Jewish people, which means people around here are already more primed to figure someone they’re randomly interacting with may be.
a similar thing happens to me. I'm a white brazilian with portuguese/italian heritage and people all around the world swear to God I'm arab hahaha I guess it's mediterranean thing where italian, portuguese, spanish and greek men are like the "white" version of arabs
My (very Catholic) grandfather was often mistakenly seen as Jewish. We had our DNA ancestry done fully expecting to find Jewish ancestry, but we have none. My grandfather owned his own business in a city in New Jersey that has a large Jewish population, so maybe he just had social characteristics of Jewish people.
Same, I've been mistaken as Jewish before but I'm mostly Italian and Polish
This is one of those videos that randomly pops in your feed and you go like
“Huh… I’ve never wondered about that.”
Then you spend the next 5 minutes like this: 🤔
You never wondered about it?! What?!
I cannot get over you saying A E I O OO. Excuse me where did the U go?
He didn't want to commit to a debt.
Actually, it should've been all the way "ah", "eh", "ee", "oh", and "oo", since we're talking about the basic vowel sounds, not the names of the letters used to represent them.
'U' is just the Y 'ya' sound before the 'OO'
@@Lernos1 U is still pronounced ‘you’ though. Uniform not ooniform.
@@ThomashorsmanEnglish isn’t phonetically consistent tho. Yes, you’re right about “uniform“ but what about “unimportant“ or “Jupiter“? The U is pronounced differently in every example. There are even words in the English language that are spelled exactly the same but pronounced differently depending on the meaning, e.g. “The wind blows“ and “I need to wind down“.
I have been hoping for someone to make this video for 5 years
0:42 how long people hold their asses is a wild giveaway 💀
😂😂😂
LMFAOOOOOOO!!!
Huh?
it's not just voice it's the mannerism and gesture too
Also facial expressions like frequently rolling eyes, opening the mouth wide.
The bearded one especially.
@@kyurei4478😂
This is about voices
it is genes and hormones, after all.
They are born this way!
Never judge!
I remember watching asap science in class in 8th grade, it was like 2015, its awesome to see you guys still uploading :)
1:40
Guy 1: 'Super Silly Billy'
My dumbass: *Inhale*
_MY WAYYY-_
I'm a straight man and I like your channel because no matter the subject you guys tell the truth. I don't have to fact check. Plus I love your positive and humorous attitude, who doesn't want that. Thank you. When you get the lesbian thing figured out, please let us know, I've made this mistake often, I haven't got a clue, unless that's just another...
Sounds like lazy behavior. Just because someone sounds factual or provides statistics/research doesn't make their information true. It's well known that sounding confident makes people more likely to believe you, but you should still do your due diligence and look things up. Even guys like Louis Rossmann, who go against the grain and try to provide accurate information with tons of links to back up his claims and arguments, will tell you not to believe him and go look for yourself. It's how guys like Andrew Tate and Fresh n' Fit got so many young guys to follow them. 80% of their rhetoric is the truth or is at least seemingly true about the pandemic modern males face, but the last 20% is just them spewing bullshit philosophies and leading them astray so they can peddle their merch and empty those young men's money.
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I've always been curious on this topic, glad you finally tackled it!
The "voice" is probably a cultural signal and/or pattern of sorts. There is lots of emotional expression in the flamboyance and the voice. Like wearing your heart on your sleeve.
THEN WHY IS IT THE SAME ACROSS CULTURES, HOLY SHIT, THINK.
It is not the same, is only the same/similar across countries influenced culturally by the United States
@@traslatioimperi Substantiation, MFer.
Perhaps it's a sub culture that transcends national borders and has had almost 40 years to globally homogenise through shared media and cultural exchange. HOLY SHIT. THINK! @@seigeengine
@@seigeengine genetic
I was searching for "JJ McCullough". This was the top video 💀
This answers a question I've been asking myself for a very long time and I'm glad I stumbled upon this video
so they can find each other...
BYE
NAH💀
the Gaydarless way babe
For nefarious reasons.
lol...
And what is that lesbian accent? How does it sound? (just a curious lesbian myself) :))
Yeah, we gotta know. To use it more.
As a fellow lesbian, I gotchu. Etymology nerd has a short video on it! ua-cam.com/video/VfsUefFIhCk/v-deo.htmlsi=KlQnWrbabJvy7Yk7 :D
It's quite masculine and aggressive sounding (if you're butch), femmes are way harder to notice imho
I'm guessing its in a butch way
From watching videos of both straight and lesbian women do gaming live streams, a pattern I noticed is that the lesbian women sound, I'm not sure if this is the right way to put it, somewhat more masculine than the straight women. But just like they said in this video, it's not quite the same kind of masculine sound as a straight man talking.
It’s an anthropologically driven communication strategy that effectively conveys the user’s proclivity.
Finally a video with both of them, and nice work!
0:05 oh my god I remember when every comment on these videos used to say that back in like 2014 😂😂 what a throwback
What
Oh ✋my ✋ gawd
@@Edbrad ?
THIS IS SO INTERESTING thank you for posting this!
Interestingly this is the first video in forever that I dont need subtitles for because you all talk so clearly haha
Interesting. I was always curious about this trend but thought it was taboo to ask or talk about it. Thanks for making this video topic and backing with research.
As long as you ask someone respectfully I don’t think anyone’d mind
It’s not taboo. Y’all love lying. People talk about it all the time
I haven’t been more excited over a video title in a while. The questions I ask in my head, but don’t know where to ask without getting skewered by sensitive people.
3:04 "The Spy has already breached our defenses"
"He could be in this VERY ROOM!"
"He could be YOU, he could be ME, he could EVEN be.."
*"Right behind you"*
@@joditiarsutrisno5556 gives you a backshot*
*Surprise!*
It’s not just the voice it’s the head movements, the hand movements and imitating womens speech. E.g calling each other girl, honey etc
LOL I JUST ASKED SOMEONE”ENGLISH OR SPANISH?” AND GOT THIS NOTIFICATION
OH DANG..
Oh, it gets deep! (Pun intended 😂)
youre a demon bro 😂
Can you explain me it more? 😅
what does english or spanish mean im so confused every1 is saying it
4:00 that hand got too many fingers
Ah! You're right
must be AI
lmao, someone can't draw hands..
Lolll I came on here to say the same thing 😅. Interesting vid, I'm so glad I found out these guys have a YT channel!! 😊
*AI!!!*
You don't really explain why. You explained why they purposely enhance it or lessen it. But I mean what started it? Homosexuals go back to the beginning of time. But the firsts probably didn't talk like that.
It's definitely a modern thing.
Probably a culture thing. Same reason there's "black talk", you talk like the people you're around. We're just social animals
@@Starlight81781 exactly. I feel like over time me and my friend group have started to sound extremely similar to eachother after like 10 years knowing eachother, and ive noticed the same thing with other close friends. It really does shape the way we behave over time.
they only briefly mentioned this, because its not very scientifically proven
yea
This is actually really interesting. Cool video!
Thank you! I'm fascinated by how people speak, accents, dialects, and all, and I looked for anything on this subject for years with no luck. This is the video I've been waiting for. Great stuff!
Your voices were changing through the video, very interesting
They forgot to do the voice, it’s a social thing they have trained themselves to do
@@apenguingames4305 Code-switching. Almost all of us do it.
@@Jablicek very common thing for people who have traits that are perceived as “bad”
@@pineapple2.041 It's common in many people, not only "bad" traits. It's more to do with fitting in with your surroundings than hiding.
1:44 Bro, get a collar that fits. You look like Dana Carvey tryin' to join the Turtle Club!
Big ups on the reference.
😂😂😂😂
Really good video, i've always wondered about this
I'm tryna be respectful this month. My algorithm had other plans.
Lmao
Slay queen
Thank you so much for this video! I was wondering about this :)
In a society, the way everyone speaks is performative. Our style of speech inherently conveys a message about ourself to others in every single interaction. We learn many of these standards in early childhood, and throughout the rest of our lives. These ideas are also reinforced or challenged with every interaction we participate in and witness. Your style of speech is directly informed by ideas about how you should talk based on your gender, orientation, socioeconomic status, racial/ethnic identity, and much more. There isn’t such a thing as a speaking style that isn’t performative.
I agree however there’s an organic quality to that performance and for this we can find patterns across cultures
“Not surprised we have range honey” in max gayness was absolutely hilarious 😂
So basically all of us change our voice given the circumstance.
Nope
@@60sbabydoll777 errrm well this is weird.
@@lic.josechavez8837what the sigma ohio lunchly talk tuah prime
That wasn't the lesson here. Of course we have modes of speaking (or yelling) but this was about a cross cultural phenomena.
It's 6am, and YT is trying to tell me something before I leave for work...
My burning question is about the hand dangling thing, especially when we're doing something with one hand and the other hand is just limp but we're holding our arm up🧐
Could be from hypermobility. Joint hypermobility is more common in the lgbtq+ community and people do "t rex" hands to compensate for shoulder instability.
@@GLGC688Apparently, the 'T Rex arms' is common among people with ADHD too.
@@om526 same with people with autism
That's an interesting question. I have wondered about it myself
Thank you for uncovering this mystery!!
Love you guys channel, both informative and funny. lol.
Love it!!!
5:00 There's also(I think)... Different nationalities having different faces, although I think that's due to something like pitch variation, but for facial expressions instead? Not sure, but I'd definitely be able to pass for an American based on facial appearance alone potentially... but possibly not.
But American is not an ethnicity
i made a comment awhile back on one of your videos. that i realized you might have taken negatively. i actually love you voice and the way you speak. the comment likely didn't convey that though. without the context of having actually known me
i'm not always the best at conveying stuff. sorry if it caused you stress
one of my friends specifically uses such a different voice when talking to his family than when talking to his friends, he's not out to his family but is to his friends and the difference is STAGGERING. i'm afab and my voice gets lower when talking to friends and higher when talking to strangers so idk
2:09 there should be a 10h version of... THIS. It was awesome! hahahahha
Sounds like Boomhauer from King of the Hill
That part took me out too!!🤣🤣🤣
@@RainbowFlowerCrow that's funny ngl.
When I'm with straight friends, my tone and even vocabulary changes naturally to suit who I'm with. Versus when I'm with women and my voice naturally changes as if to say "I'm not a predator. I'm a friend"
I’ve noticed this too with myself and it’s not like I do it on purpose I just realise I’m doing it randomly
Wow same
Explicitly signalling "Im not a predator" is exactly what a predator would do.
@@dreadwinter I think what he meant or more what I meant is that it’s us signaling we just want a friendship and nothing more because if you’re really close to a straight female and you as a male are thought to be straight, for example, the relationship might go a totally different direction.
Having the thought at all that a relationship which involves a woman MIGHT "go a totally different direction" is a predatory thought.
Your “straight guy” impression was the best part of this video 😂😂😂
4:04 good job, you just bring ai in real life! 6 fingers wow xD
except that, love the video! was really informative and interesting ^^