I can see if your filming handheld that it gives you more of a real feel to the video. But I create golf content so I have to set up a tripod to film myself, but If I had a videographer I would be ok if it was handheld footage
Handheld. I just started filming last year (so not totally pro), but it just has a raw feeling to it. Gimbal is okay for certain shots but I think every clip thats super smooth is meh. I'm moving into more doc style weddings this summer when I can so a bit of shake is fine
I am considering having my hands removed and just replaced with gimbals. Then I’ll just use my handheld plugin to give it the handheld feel. Best of both worlds.
I do a lot of weddings and I've definitely gone more in the direction of handheld. It just tells a more grounded and authentic story in my opinion. I'll still use a gimbal for some broll shots of decorations and such, but primarily all handheld with the couple. Also, have gone away from shooting everything in 60fps. A lot more 24fps. Pretty scary, but I like the look. Cheers!
Its refreshing to hear this and to not see a wedding videographer profile pic holding their prized gimbal ha! This summer I'm pushing into 24/48 fps and attempting more doc style shooting. The last 2 weddings I went to I left the gimbal. I shoot with 6k pro so it all gets scary but I love the camera
When I started out I couldn’t afford a gimbal and when I was able to borrow one I didn’t like having to set it up and so I just taught myself to do everything hand held. Now if I was working on a big production shoot, yeah I would probably use a gimbal in certain shots. But I’ve always liked being able to recreate gimbal moves hand held!
I bet it took a lot of effort for you to master how to do handheld and still maintain smooth or somewhat smooth shots. Nowadays gen Z is just being lazy and they’ll repeating crappy photos and videos they call it a “trend”. Um, no, that’s not a trend that’s just laziness. If you want to shoot handheld then put more effort into it but they are here releasing the videos that 2 year olds can shoot easily that gives you headache for days after watching it.
Good thoughts Teppo 😉 I have the crane 3s for my FX6 and the crane 3m for my ZVE1 but I use them not very often 🙈 handheld shooting is cool 😎 best cinematic greetings from germany
Steadycam / glidecam, gives a great result that feels more natural than the sterile roboticness of a gimbal. But they're large and heavy so rarely used outside of sets. And a humble well framed tripod shot can really stand out against all the moving shots we're bombarded with.
I know everyone chose handheld, and I like that too when there are small movements focusing on an object. But for many of the shoots you shared in this video, I believe gimbal was more appropriate
I shoot both but it depends on the project. I’ll shoot B-Roll for clients using Gimbal especially at 24FPS. Sometimes I’ll ad. 60 fps handheld but the clips are shorter and usually closeups. It really depends on what I need as to how I shoot it. They both have specific applications where one is better than the other.
Super interesting topic, thank you for making and bringing it up. I wish I was good at handheld, but my footage is way too shaky. I got the Oslo pocket 3, which I used in my last video to travel in Norway, and the footage was so smooth and was impressed with the dynamic range. It packs a lot in such a tiny camera. My mirrorless shots, mostly shaky and wobbly. I wish I could get better shooting hand held.
I think gimbal, tripod and monopod all are appropriate tools for different things. I've been using the gimbal onto the monopod so i can quickly take it off for gimbal shots but then use it on the monopod for more stability. It can quickly disengage from the gimbal then for handheld if needed. You just don't want to be far away from that contraption when it's combined! 🤣
Me i just bought a gimbal..very good. And if you want you can add shake in post, for film effects. Also a gimbal is not like if you had a tripod. There is still a bit of panning because it is more heavy and you cannot be completely static, which i like because it makes it more dynamic. I prefer my gimbal. Handheld does not work with me.
I think you used an example that highly favours handheld. If you'd have used a super wide shot of you going to the beach though a opening in the woods, I bet most pople would have preferred a gimbal shot, or actually no camera movement at all. In the end, there is no right or wrong. There is just different use cases.
Gimbal, monopod, tripod and handheld, they all have their use cases, the problem is that it is hard to run around with all on a wedding day which makes it easier to just stick to one. The issue with gimbal is that it is not good for most of the other use cases. My new setup is using the Osmo Pocket 3 for those very specific shots where gimbal shines and use monopod or handheld for the rest. On a whole wedding day I use 3-5 shots with the gimbal, couple walking, entrance and exit from the ceremony and some establishing shots, that's it.
i think a mix of both is best, sometimes the shot till suite hand held and sometimes it looks like crap when its a shot that should be done with a gimble haha
Interesting. I've only used a gimbal once the DJI OM 3. Wasn't a nice experience. Now that I have the 6700 I want to start without a gimbal see how good it is. Then maybe invest in one later.
The same creators/influences first promoted, and helped with sales of gimbals while it was a trend, now promote perhaps not to use gimbal. This is why YT became an uninspiring place, where only toys and hardware is being glorified and promoted by the brands (like Panasonic) to push the sales. No space for the creativity, real art and story to be told. Every video is sponsored by Artlist or Square Space. I think it ultimately is coming to an end where people will move away from content creators realm in pursuit of something different.
This is much like the wedding trends...as creators WE may like handheld, because WE feel its a talent, its creative for us, also we've used gimbals for years.... BUT! Clients love the gimbals look, a client would prefer the gimbal shots most often. Its tough, theres a place for both.
I use both but it's important to note that 99% of the time I'm going for smooth footage with either technique. It's just some cases warrant the use of handheld and slow-mo to get the buttery smooth shot I need.
I learned to shoot with a gimbal handheld style. I have a zoom motor so i can get different shots better but still not as fast as with handheld but that is the compromise.
The same shot on a gimbal and handheld are telling a very different story. Kind of like two kinds of music in the background… i like to think about what my shot is supposed to tell and then pick the tools to do so.
I prefer filming handheld, but gimbals have their place for sure, plenty of projects wouldn;t be ok with handheld. Also I feel that "handheld" is one of those buzz words like "cinematic"that people like to use to look cool lol 😛 Cool vid dude
It all depends on what you're shooting and how you want to tell the story. In my opinion, too many people gravitate toward a gimbal because they don't know anything else, which causes their story to fall flat, and their shots are all the same. If you don't have a properly built out handheld rig, you might suffer from way too much shake, which could also destroy your story. Something like real estate walkthroughs wouldn't fare well with handheld footage, and something like a running documentary wouldn't look great if all the shots were on a gimbal.
Handheld seems to be preferred but I love the smoothness of gimbals. I think shooting smooth will always be the peak but handheld makes it easy. I think handheld feels more like a home video, the way my eyes perceive things as smooth so I like it replicated. Also, with the gimbal options available, you can have it as big or as small as need be. I would argue handheld is lazier as well
I think it might be also a question about authenticity. I find myself liking more about the authenticity than anything else. Gimbal feels more produced even if the reality would be completely the opposite
And one question not related to the video: would you be interested in doing a podcast in Finnish? Willing to travel from Helsinki or do it remotely ☺️ totally understand if you are busy or not interested in Finnish audience (2-10k listeners)
@@TeppoHaapoja it’s been mostly about stand-up comedy but lately more about creativity. I interview interesting people that have interesting stories/background ☺️ you’d be a perfect fit and I think there’s a lot of local people who would learn from and enjoy your content. But no pressure - I totally understand if this is not interesting for you ☺️
Shooting handheld is a technique that still needs technique. Shooting 60p handheld looks like trash if you’re not slowing it down. It lacks motion blur and appears jittery. Too many filmmakers think they can go handheld because they are terrified of setting up a gimbal only to find out there’s still a certain way to achieve the results they’re looking for.
FYI using a top handle grip like the one in your thumbnail with a small mirrorless camera is TERRIBLE. It's too light. You end up getting more micro jitters and it's really hard to keep the camera level. And it's tough to watch the back of the screen to frame things correctly. It's a waste of money unless you make your camera a lot heavier on purpose. Trust me, I tried. I honestly hate gimbals. Heavy. You have to balance constantly. Needs a lot of practice and skill to get good at it. They do work, but it's a pain. My best recommendation: Get a dedicated camera with awesome IBIS like the S5II, the the G9II, new GH7 or the Nikon Z6III, or honestly if it's for social media content, the DJI Pocket 3 is awesome with the built-in gimbal. Those IBIS systems, especially in boost modes, are 90% similar to gimbals. The last 10% can be handled with Resolve's excellent built-in stabilization feature. The GH7 also has 60 and 120 fps with no crop. Sony IBIS isn't as good as those cameras.
Gimbles have their time and place. Whenever someone new gets into video they think they need a gimble and then they film everything on a gimble thinking its going to make their video better but it actually makes it look like trash.
Um look, Gen Z making “trends” or they think they are making trends doesn’t mean it’s a good trend. We’ve been there and done that already. If you want crappy video with shaky footage and gives you a headache for days after watching it, if that’s your thing go for it. But give me smooth, cinematic shots wit gimbal, it will NEVER go out of style. Gen Z is making “blurry” cheap as* photos “trendy” doesn’t mean blurry photos are “cool” either. They are just broke and or lazy or both and thinning by making these “trends” they can claim it’s their “style” so it’s all “good”. Umm, nope, go out learn how to take clear crisp photos where horizon is not distorted, learn smooth video taking skills, yes it takes time and effort and just because someone is talentless or lazy doesn’t mean we have to accept their lazy standards. 🤷🏻♀️
Gimbal vs Handheld - which one do you prefer?!
Handheld all day every day
I prefer a gumbal. I would prefer not to be distracted by the movement created by hand held pictures.
I can see if your filming handheld that it gives you more of a real feel to the video. But I create golf content so I have to set up a tripod to film myself, but If I had a videographer I would be ok if it was handheld footage
@@trywithchris Thank you.
Handheld. I just started filming last year (so not totally pro), but it just has a raw feeling to it. Gimbal is okay for certain shots but I think every clip thats super smooth is meh. I'm moving into more doc style weddings this summer when I can so a bit of shake is fine
I am considering having my hands removed and just replaced with gimbals. Then I’ll just use my handheld plugin to give it the handheld feel. Best of both worlds.
😂😂😂
Simple answer... What assists the story more in that specific situation? use that.
I do a lot of weddings and I've definitely gone more in the direction of handheld. It just tells a more grounded and authentic story in my opinion. I'll still use a gimbal for some broll shots of decorations and such, but primarily all handheld with the couple. Also, have gone away from shooting everything in 60fps. A lot more 24fps. Pretty scary, but I like the look. Cheers!
Its refreshing to hear this and to not see a wedding videographer profile pic holding their prized gimbal ha! This summer I'm pushing into 24/48 fps and attempting more doc style shooting. The last 2 weddings I went to I left the gimbal. I shoot with 6k pro so it all gets scary but I love the camera
It all depends on what you’re filming to use a gimbal or handheld. Overall gimbal’s make the footage look so much better than handheld
better is subjective. They do seem a bit more boring and long winded when it comes to the takes.
I thought i was lazy cause I didn't wanna use a gimbal LOL
When I started out I couldn’t afford a gimbal and when I was able to borrow one I didn’t like having to set it up and so I just taught myself to do everything hand held. Now if I was working on a big production shoot, yeah I would probably use a gimbal in certain shots. But I’ve always liked being able to recreate gimbal moves hand held!
Nice!
I bet it took a lot of effort for you to master how to do handheld and still maintain smooth or somewhat smooth shots. Nowadays gen Z is just being lazy and they’ll repeating crappy photos and videos they call it a “trend”. Um, no, that’s not a trend that’s just laziness. If you want to shoot handheld then put more effort into it but they are here releasing the videos that 2 year olds can shoot easily that gives you headache for days after watching it.
Good thoughts Teppo 😉 I have the crane 3s for my FX6 and the crane 3m for my ZVE1 but I use them not very often 🙈 handheld shooting is cool 😎 best cinematic greetings from germany
I like to do both. The steady shots i do it with the gimbal and then I go hand held adding a handle for everything else
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Steadycam / glidecam, gives a great result that feels more natural than the sterile roboticness of a gimbal. But they're large and heavy so rarely used outside of sets. And a humble well framed tripod shot can really stand out against all the moving shots we're bombarded with.
True!
I know everyone chose handheld, and I like that too when there are small movements focusing on an object. But for many of the shoots you shared in this video, I believe gimbal was more appropriate
Thanks for sharing!
I shoot both but it depends on the project. I’ll shoot B-Roll for clients using Gimbal especially at 24FPS. Sometimes I’ll ad. 60 fps handheld but the clips are shorter and usually closeups. It really depends on what I need as to how I shoot it. They both have specific applications where one is better than the other.
Depends on the look i am trying to achieve ! I think its all situational
Super interesting topic, thank you for making and bringing it up. I wish I was good at handheld, but my footage is way too shaky. I got the Oslo pocket 3, which I used in my last video to travel in Norway, and the footage was so smooth and was impressed with the dynamic range. It packs a lot in such a tiny camera. My mirrorless shots, mostly shaky and wobbly. I wish I could get better shooting hand held.
I like both and it depends on what the intent is. Sometimes static is king.
For real estate videography I have to have a gimbal. But love lifestyle shots handheld
I think gimbal, tripod and monopod all are appropriate tools for different things. I've been using the gimbal onto the monopod so i can quickly take it off for gimbal shots but then use it on the monopod for more stability. It can quickly disengage from the gimbal then for handheld if needed. You just don't want to be far away from that contraption when it's combined! 🤣
Agreed!
Yeah. Trending since the French New Wave.
I go handheld but only because I use the zv-e1. The dynamic stabilization is pretty clutch!
Me i just bought a gimbal..very good. And if you want you can add shake in post, for film effects. Also a gimbal is not like if you had a tripod. There is still a bit of panning because it is more heavy and you cannot be completely static, which i like because it makes it more dynamic. I prefer my gimbal. Handheld does not work with me.
I think you used an example that highly favours handheld.
If you'd have used a super wide shot of you going to the beach though a opening in the woods, I bet most pople would have preferred a gimbal shot, or actually no camera movement at all.
In the end, there is no right or wrong. There is just different use cases.
Gimbal, monopod, tripod and handheld, they all have their use cases, the problem is that it is hard to run around with all on a wedding day which makes it easier to just stick to one. The issue with gimbal is that it is not good for most of the other use cases. My new setup is using the Osmo Pocket 3 for those very specific shots where gimbal shines and use monopod or handheld for the rest. On a whole wedding day I use 3-5 shots with the gimbal, couple walking, entrance and exit from the ceremony and some establishing shots, that's it.
i think a mix of both is best, sometimes the shot till suite hand held and sometimes it looks like crap when its a shot that should be done with a gimble haha
Interesting. I've only used a gimbal once the DJI OM 3. Wasn't a nice experience. Now that I have the 6700 I want to start without a gimbal see how good it is. Then maybe invest in one later.
i think lower angle shots like at 0:36 and 0:46 for the wide parallax shots - gimbals are really effective, but other than that, handheld all the way.
Handheld mostly but using a rig to add more stability.
The same creators/influences first promoted, and helped with sales of gimbals while it was a trend, now promote perhaps not to use gimbal. This is why YT became an uninspiring place, where only toys and hardware is being glorified and promoted by the brands (like Panasonic) to push the sales. No space for the creativity, real art and story to be told. Every video is sponsored by Artlist or Square Space. I think it ultimately is coming to an end where people will move away from content creators realm in pursuit of something different.
a lots of weddings are ben shot handheld now too , so many videographers are going that road .
This is much like the wedding trends...as creators WE may like handheld, because WE feel its a talent, its creative for us, also we've used gimbals for years....
BUT! Clients love the gimbals look, a client would prefer the gimbal shots most often.
Its tough, theres a place for both.
There is no one or another for me I prefer a Mix of shots. I Do more wedding stuff 😊
I use both but it's important to note that 99% of the time I'm going for smooth footage with either technique. It's just some cases warrant the use of handheld and slow-mo to get the buttery smooth shot I need.
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Handheld for me unless there is a specific use case . Gimbal just gets in the way of creating.
I learned to shoot with a gimbal handheld style. I have a zoom motor so i can get different shots better but still not as fast as with handheld but that is the compromise.
Nice!
The same shot on a gimbal and handheld are telling a very different story. Kind of like two kinds of music in the background… i like to think about what my shot is supposed to tell and then pick the tools to do so.
I prefer filming handheld, but gimbals have their place for sure, plenty of projects wouldn;t be ok with handheld. Also I feel that "handheld" is one of those buzz words like "cinematic"that people like to use to look cool lol 😛
Cool vid dude
It all depends on what you're shooting and how you want to tell the story. In my opinion, too many people gravitate toward a gimbal because they don't know anything else, which causes their story to fall flat, and their shots are all the same. If you don't have a properly built out handheld rig, you might suffer from way too much shake, which could also destroy your story. Something like real estate walkthroughs wouldn't fare well with handheld footage, and something like a running documentary wouldn't look great if all the shots were on a gimbal.
what is the link of that grip and handle??? and show us how to use it....
Handheld seems to be preferred but I love the smoothness of gimbals. I think shooting smooth will always be the peak but handheld makes it easy. I think handheld feels more like a home video, the way my eyes perceive things as smooth so I like it replicated. Also, with the gimbal options available, you can have it as big or as small as need be. I would argue handheld is lazier as well
Interesting to hear your perspective!
Way more flexibility with handheld shots. Team #handheld all the way.
what does the story call for? what are you trying to convey?
I kinda like the raw realness of handheld footage :)
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I think it might be also a question about authenticity. I find myself liking more about the authenticity than anything else. Gimbal feels more produced even if the reality would be completely the opposite
True!
I definitely prefer handheld because the less stuff I have to carry the better
Ha true!
I really hate setting up a gimbal. Shots look great but too much work for too little payoff.
Yoooo where did you get that jacket in your intro???
And one question not related to the video: would you be interested in doing a podcast in Finnish? Willing to travel from Helsinki or do it remotely ☺️ totally understand if you are busy or not interested in Finnish audience (2-10k listeners)
Ha oh man, doing it in Finnish would be tough! Whats your podcast about?
@@TeppoHaapoja it’s been mostly about stand-up comedy but lately more about creativity. I interview interesting people that have interesting stories/background ☺️ you’d be a perfect fit and I think there’s a lot of local people who would learn from and enjoy your content. But no pressure - I totally understand if this is not interesting for you ☺️
Shooting handheld is a technique that still needs technique. Shooting 60p handheld looks like trash if you’re not slowing it down. It lacks motion blur and appears jittery. Too many filmmakers think they can go handheld because they are terrified of setting up a gimbal only to find out there’s still a certain way to achieve the results they’re looking for.
Dude, that opening broll sequence is 🔥. Those colors … so good.
Teppo: "Hand Held is the way to go"
Me: *Has a Ronin4D so I can't take the gimbal off*
Vertical videos with handheld not possible 😢
"viewer" also matters - hanheld is cool viewed on iphone, but with 32 inch display - smoothnes is less fatigue on eyes and brain
Wow. What lens is this?!
My friend Tommi used the Tamron 28-75 I believe?
I like a gimbal for video
I barely use my gimbal but mostly because I bounce from horizontal to vertical to doing photography too. Gimbals just too much messing about.
FYI using a top handle grip like the one in your thumbnail with a small mirrorless camera is TERRIBLE. It's too light. You end up getting more micro jitters and it's really hard to keep the camera level. And it's tough to watch the back of the screen to frame things correctly. It's a waste of money unless you make your camera a lot heavier on purpose. Trust me, I tried.
I honestly hate gimbals. Heavy. You have to balance constantly. Needs a lot of practice and skill to get good at it. They do work, but it's a pain.
My best recommendation: Get a dedicated camera with awesome IBIS like the S5II, the the G9II, new GH7 or the Nikon Z6III, or honestly if it's for social media content, the DJI Pocket 3 is awesome with the built-in gimbal. Those IBIS systems, especially in boost modes, are 90% similar to gimbals. The last 10% can be handled with Resolve's excellent built-in stabilization feature. The GH7 also has 60 and 120 fps with no crop. Sony IBIS isn't as good as those cameras.
Gimbal!
Gimbles have their time and place. Whenever someone new gets into video they think they need a gimble and then they film everything on a gimble thinking its going to make their video better but it actually makes it look like trash.
I hope it doesn't become a trend. It should be a tool, not a standard.
Um look, Gen Z making “trends” or they think they are making trends doesn’t mean it’s a good trend. We’ve been there and done that already. If you want crappy video with shaky footage and gives you a headache for days after watching it, if that’s your thing go for it. But give me smooth, cinematic shots wit gimbal, it will NEVER go out of style. Gen Z is making “blurry” cheap as* photos “trendy” doesn’t mean blurry photos are “cool” either. They are just broke and or lazy or both and thinning by making these “trends” they can claim it’s their “style” so it’s all “good”. Umm, nope, go out learn how to take clear crisp photos where horizon is not distorted, learn smooth video taking skills, yes it takes time and effort and just because someone is talentless or lazy doesn’t mean we have to accept their lazy standards. 🤷🏻♀️
I shoot footheld
Not if you have a sony because of crappy ibis🤣
It really depnds on the editing and the music...style etc tbh
handheld gimbal stuff is so much more effort and not practical for vlogging
It was always a trend. What do you mean? ahahah