@@sadjkt48 , The Quest system works much better in this. Each castle has different locations you can quest your knights and also send them and their monsters to Training Grounds to level up. Knights will also always come back from questing the following turn. So yes, it will be worthy of high replay value.
Fire Emblem 3 houses brought me over to the switch, now Brigandine is keeping my interest piqued. I hereby crown switch Emperor of the tactical genre! Here is hoping they keep that momentum going!
Cross-classing is great in the original game when done strategically without compromising too many stats for the final highest class a run knight will stick to. Or have wicked units like Lilith or Lucifer for "versatility!" :))
Yeah, I also prefer cross-classing between classes with compatible stat growths. A good example of that is what he did with Elena, changing her from a hunter to a dancer (both classes focus on STR and AGI). The bad news is that you won't be able to get versatility with a single class anymore (Liliths and Lucifers don't exist in this game), so cross-classing is almost a necessity here.
Your videos are clear and well spoken/put together, and the information is useful and interesting. I hope your channel, and this game take off like a rocket! There is a tactical RPG made by some great people over on Steam called "Troubleshooters: Abandoned Children" that is so good its hard to see how its only a niche title other then people just don't know it exists. Its like a hybrid of fire emblem meets Persona. Check it out when you have the time, and if you talk to the devs, tell em "Steel Midnight" recommended you. They may even give you a key so you can review it as well if you tell dandylion you have a gaming channel.. Keep up the quality work.
Only quality over here, yo! ;) Thanks for the kind words! Yea, I'll definitely reach out to the devs to see about a review for the game. Thanks for the heads up on it. Never heard of the title until now. I'll reach out! Cheers!
Forgot this game was releasing until I stumbled on this video. What a exciting surprise. I was usually a casual brigandine player so all this is cross class stuff is new to me. Thanks for the guide
I would have liked to see knight classes that needed hybrid builds. For example, Dark Knight could have required mastery in Knight and Berserker, as a nod to how you got a dark knight in the old game.
I definitely have build vids planned in the future so I'll definitely incorporate those after I have access to the full game. That way I can cover a bunch of builds, if not ALL of them in one video. I may split it into Country specific vids to highlight individual knights.
To go all out offensive knight, I prefer main Sword Master/ Champion ability. SM skill to do massive damage with 50% chance of critical + champion critical extra damage will be huge.
They work so well together. I'm definitely gonna have at LEAST one of those combos in every playthrough I'd say. I wanna experiment with a top notch Caster Class soon.
I also think that Sword Master/Champion will be possibly the most offensive combination, but it's not as good as you think (the Critical Damage Up from the Champion doesn't carry over to other classes). To get the most out of it, you need to master the Sword Master class (which gives you HP Recovery B and Critical Rate Up B) and then switch to Champion (to get Critical Damage Up and Accuracy Up S).
@@SmoothDesigner The Sword Master's skills aren't still fully known because there isn't one in the continent (the "class" menu lists the skills/spells and abilities of all classes, but doesn't describe their powers or MP costs). Also, since pre-moves usually cost MP now, that also has to be taken into account. However (if the Brigandine wiki is right), it looks like Sword Masters will deal more damage (but, like i said before, the Critical Damage Up ability from the Champion doesn't carry over to other classes) . Here are their movesets: Champion (skill name/power/mp cost/description): Divine Blow - 125 - 0 - Normal Attack. Deals moderate damage to a single adjacent enemy unit. Pushes the enemy back by 1 hex (if the hex is unoccupied). Maximum Rush (pre-move) - 230 - 100 - Deals massive damage to a single adjacent enemy unit. (2.3 power/MP) Vacuum Uppercut - 125 - 30 - Deals moderate damage to a single adjacent enemy unit. Recover HP equal to 20% of damage dealt. (4.1 power/MP) Fighting Focus - X - 45 - Increases your Attack for a limited number of turns. Sword Master (skill name/power/mp cost/description): Refined Fang Slash - 135 - 0 - Normal attack. Deals major damage to a single adjacent enemy unit. Refined Iaido Blade (pre-move) - 185 - 60 - Deals massive damage to a single adjacent enemy unit. (3.08 power/MP) Idle Flash - 250 - 140 - Deals massive damage to a single adjacent enemy unit. Critical damage +50%. (1.78 power/MP) Swift Stance - X - 25 - Increases your AGI for a limited number of turns. So Sword Masters have more powerful attacks, but Champions's attacks also have added effects (like pushing the enemy or absorbing HP).
Do you guys prefer rushing through the game, or taking your time? Personally, though I do really love this new Brigandine, I don't like the "rush" thing, after finishing a very tedious Challenge mode, I have to say there are better ways to increase challenge other then taking away resources/knights and making you bum rush the game. I REALLY wish there was a harder difficulty without the time restraints or limitations on recruitable rune knights. Yeah, its supposed to offer a challenge (and it did!) but I would much rather have a hard mode without such limitations as time or number of knights, ect. Just wanted to see if anyone else felt that way....
As someone who played the original. I already know this. Ever seen a paladin Dinadan cast power to himself then casting holyword next turn. Mwah. Talk about cleaning 🏠.
Observation on magic user classes: tier 3 Wizard - male mage Kit - got nerfed hard in this new game without access to OG Druid/ Necromancer. tier 2 - 3 Sorceress/ Witch got nerfed with Fallberg now being given to tier 3 Royal Knight originally Valkyrie. Tier 3 Seraph is now designed to be more of a magic support role with the elimination Lucifer kit. Would love to hear how people experience the Bard/ Minstrel/ Troubadour kit in the gameplay - the designated Green mage.
5:51 I always felt hesitant about cross-classing between melee/spellcasting classes (because their stat growths are usually not compatible), but I do admit the versatility could be interesting (since you're not useless once you run out of MP). 7:40 I understand why some abilites (like Dominate Sky and Shield Block) don't carry over to other classes (they're dependent on specific kinds of equipment), but I still think more abilities (the more "general" ones) should carry over (like Critical Damage Up, Sidestep, and Parry) - once again, it just feels they're doing that to enforce the "uniqueness" of each class, and not because it makes sense. 9:23 The enlightenment scroll is such a good addition! I agree that the optimal use of it would be on leaders who "lost" one proficiency level because they "overleveled" in the same class by a single level, but you can still take that to the extreme: I'm looking forward to seeing the "jack-of-all-trades" builds that are gonna come out of that (the 2nd producer letter said that the time limit gets lifted at some point, so it will be possible to keep questing until you get enough of those items) - bonus points if you do that with Jack :P 34:44 Even with the equipment being able to add elemental variety to the Ancient Dragon, I still feel weird about all of them being red-elemental: not only because they're negating the elemental choice you've made in the previous tier, but also because that feels like contradictory design (I mean, they let nightmares have spells from the previous tier despite the elemental shift from dark to white, so why not let dragons keep (some of) the characteristics of the previous tier as well?). I also don't understand why they're requiring promotion items for so many 3rd tier classes, and abolishing 4th tier classes (Lucifers and Liliths) altogether (I think regulating the level up/growth rate is a better way to impose barriers to classing up).
There's some other neat things about hybridizing mages and fighters besides not being useless with no MP. Like cutting through the frontline to get oneself placed in range of a critical damage spell, buffing another better positioned unit with Power or Halo, being a frontline healer that can evade & counter while tending to the team, etc. it's all so great!
Yes, absolutely. Depends on the knight though. If you're trying to beat the game for the first time, I wouldn't worry about it too much. But you can get some busted builds this way.
So I'm curious. I've been allowing my heroes to get dual classes, but I run into an issue mid game where their heroes are mostly at tier 3 and none of mine are. Like, its nice that my berserker can heal and all, but when they deal 400 damage and i'm healing 100-200, it seems counter intuitive. I've dealt with this so far by baiting and focusing those heroes and killing them as quick as possible, so I can roam around their kingdom a few turns without dealing with them/earning the exp off their lvl 20+ heroes, but i'm wondering if there are ways that others deal with this issue. edit: I also use 2-3 Pegasus an army as well as one healer hero and 2 or so specialty monsters: Imp/Mermaid/(sometimes demon), so I try to silent and charm when I can to put holes in their defenses.
First of all, let me commend you for crossing your berserker with a healer, lol. I don't see it that often, so kudos! So I found the best way to deal with a heavy hitting leader is the Weakness and Magic Down Spells, depending on the leader. Weakness on Rudo for example makes a HUGE difference in his power output and was a game-changer every time I faced him. I'd recommend evolving to Nightmares instead of Pegasus for the majority of your Unicorns. Yes, Halo can help a Low AGL leader to hit their big boy attacks, however I would run 2 Nightmares and 1 Pegasus per Team. 3 Nightmares if you don't need Halo. Other units can of course make use of Weakness and Magic Down, but you'll mostly want them to do damage. Nightmares are mostly supportive anyways, plus they keep the Heal and Cure spells. Another way to deal with the issue is to abuse Magic Down and Status Effects because the lower the INT is on a unit, the more likely they are to be hit with Stone, Poison, or Charm for example. Dimension is also popular in this scenario. Take note if they have any means to CURE the status effects. If not, have fun! ;)
@@TheStellarArcade Nah, I meant the healing from the Knight. That WOULD be cool though to use your spin to win strat with area healing capabilities. Thanks for the insight. I took care of the problem on easy by being really agressive and clearing the map before they build up, but I have a feeling that wont work with the harder difficulties.
@@STStillwell , You can still make good momentum on Hard Difficulty when you get more experience on the battlefield. You'll need to consider more of what the enemy can do in relationship to your positioning to succeed on harder difficulties. Example, I learned the hard way to NEVER position a unit, especially a Leader, within EXACTLY 4 spaces of an enemy unit who can cast Dimension. The AI will prioritze Damage over Dimension if you're within range of their Offensive Spells/Skills, such as Venom. Tim is a good example of this along with Tier 2-3 Demons, etc.
Your getting me so hyped to get this I've not seen a game like this since tactics ogre I was told they had in depth stuff like this on ps4 they were wrong. Ty for getting me jonesed for this lol
So i cross my monk to figther at lv 6. Now he is lv 10 but figther proficiency is only at 4. Should i just up the class on monk or level up to lv 11 to get my proficiency to 5? What is the harm of not max proficiency when cross classing before up the class tier?
So this has been one of Brigandine's known issues. Luckily, the devs put in an item you can Quest for called an Enlightenment Scroll, which ups your proficiency by 1 upon consumption. If you are unable to find one, then go ahead and Master your Proficiency at level 11. Better to get your Passive Abilities carried over now rather than waiting for a scroll.
kewl even without cross classing, I loved original legend of forsenia..but now with commanders able to Cross Classing? EVEN BETTER! thanks for making this video!!!
how do I class up my rulers? When I first played, I chose Eliza and her faction. I noticed not long after that rival rulers were classing up, rubino to crown prince, Talia to grand mother, yet my Eliza never classed up to rose valkerie. I then started a new game as Prince rubino in hopes of his early class up....nope. Talia and now even Eliza classed up early to grand mother and rose valkerie, respectively. What gives? my rulers are almost max level now and nothing, can you help?
After consulting with the Discord, the consensus seems to be the player must conquer between 25-28 territories in order to class up (depending on the faction). Certain Story Events will take place for the class ups. The AI is designed to get theirs much earlier.
@@TheStellarArcade ah I see, i quite nervous when this game first showed up. I will buy it later, but I just got the feeling this new one will be a lot different than the old one
While interesting, single class characters are better in general. Why? You will always have the correct stats for the skills plus you wont have to change your items around for each class. Also, personally, i spam training asap with every character i can. Level has a lot to do with what you find in quests. Low level...yeah, youre not going to get above red arrow. you want at least 3 levels to find extra Knights with an efficiency, plus, you NEED to find those rare items that let you level up to the elite monsters.
I disagree. While I can see the benefits of stats in a single class, it's never going to trump Variety. That being said, there's no reason you can't do well without cross-classing, however opening up your options to deal with any given situation is far superior. The game encourages cross-classing for this very reason. The same thing can be said about Questing. Locations are based off Level AND your Class. Having characters that can bounce between Tier 2 classes and above covers a lot more ground to receive 3 rankings or more.
@@TheStellarArcade The benefit isnt worth it. You need Tier 3 in a class to get the star. Splitting up your classes so that you have a bunch of t1 is not a good strategy..sure, you will find lots of stuff at a broader range of locations, but its all going to be tier 1 or next to useless. To get tier 3 items, need lvl 20 and tier 3 class. After you get your tier 3 though, you can switch classes to cover more bases.
@@rpscorp9457 I know you need Tier 3 class and level 20 to get best results. I made a whole video on it. I never said that you should be crossing between ALL Tier 1s either. Majority of the time you will only be crossing between one additional class such as Barb/Monk or Dancer/Lancer. It very much is worth the effort for battles and questing and isn't hard to accomplish.
@@TheStellarArcade ahaaa! It may be possible. I did read earlier before the game released that they were not going to do any extra content or DLC, but who knows. Sounds like to me its getting popular, it comes out of the ps4 in December. It was just for switch at the time
Yes. Max level is 30. The Pros and Cons would be a VERY long list lol. I'm actually compiling a video like that where the community is giving feedback on the game in Discord. Once I get a chance to access Challenge Mode, I'll be releasing that video.
@@TheStellarArcade I love the art and the soundtrack. My only thing is I think the battlefield graphics could've been more detailed, and the character units could've been better as well, especially when class changing.
Rune Knight's Class portrait looks so generic. I understand they are supposed to be faceless, but the general design is so generic, plain, like disposable random troops. Very disappointing considering how glorious character portraits/ designs are.
If the easy mode of this game has no time limit in conquering the continent, Imma farm the heck out of those enlightenment scrolls lmao Imagine a Rune Knight with a ton of spells and abilities omg
@@TheStellarArcade I checked the fan wiki and the monsters class changes are a little disappointing, and there's no scorpions, my favorite, lol, but it's already magical that we have this game.
@@phucluu100 , interesting. I think the monster classes have been flushed pretty nicely. One big example if the basic Dragon being able to class up to any element Dragon of your choice. Keep in mind the Wiki is new and still being built, so there is room for additions.
Noticed when changing class knight is far less useful. I try and use every knight. On harder difficulty. It’s hard to give up a middle class in a group that needs that healer or spell user class. In a group of 3 sometimes it’s best. Or move knights around. Found it’s easier to let them be till 16. Then persue other classes but some movement needs to happen as far weaker low tier. On hard difficulty can easily get fucked up. Usually I form a team. One healer. One dps and one tank. It’s a pain in the ass to try and switch a healer😮 into a dps or tank. So avoid it.and focus on monsters. To take those role’s. My point is if trying to switch from dps to a tank for example. Need to move troops around. And be ready, baby it till useful .for 5 levels at least.
It's not less useful if your monster team is able to compensate for the loss your leader takes when switching classes. Example, if you lose any healing abilities after switching, then Unicorns/Angels can more than make up for that. You shouldn't be switching classes anyways before mastering Healing Spells. The idea is to Master your Class so Spells and Passive Abilities carry over. This makes it far easier to switch classes without losing support from the previous. Also, consider a leader's stats before making a change. You would never want to cross a low STR Mage into a Tank or Melee DPS (unless you want to experiment). You don't always need the "Holy Trinity" of Tank/DPS/Healer on your squads. Monsters are meant to fill those roles that are lacking.
I think the Monk models look the weirdest. I get the low budget argument, however some of these need an overhaul, lol. Still got some time though before release. We'll see. ;)
do you think raising knight level is better from the new Training Ground feature or bring them to battle? in the old game I remember there was not that feature and only way to raise knight is we have to bring it to combat.
Training Grounds seem to be really effective until a knight reaches level 11. My strategy would be to train them to level 6, change class, then level to 11. Enlightenment Scrolls are ideal here so you can cross at level 5 and stop the training grounds at level 10.
Omg, they are x2 Green now instead of non elemental?! Ugh... Also seem that + 20% Hit rate from the Samurai/ Shogun Kit is now "Accuracy Up" given to Monk??
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Which console is it going to be on
@@Choji25 Nintendo Switch only
@@Choji25 , Nintendo Switch
Do you think it will worhty for long play? Does the quest work like ps1?
@@sadjkt48 , The Quest system works much better in this. Each castle has different locations you can quest your knights and also send them and their monsters to Training Grounds to level up. Knights will also always come back from questing the following turn. So yes, it will be worthy of high replay value.
I just got this game last week. Already hooked and playing my first nation, the Holy Gustava Empire!
Same! Enjoy it! 😎👌
Same here gustava
Fire Emblem 3 houses brought me over to the switch, now Brigandine is keeping my interest piqued. I hereby crown switch Emperor of the tactical genre! Here is hoping they keep that momentum going!
Cross-classing is great in the original game when done strategically without compromising too many stats for the final highest class a run knight will stick to.
Or have wicked units like Lilith or Lucifer for "versatility!" :))
Yeah, I also prefer cross-classing between classes with compatible stat growths. A good example of that is what he did with Elena, changing her from a hunter to a dancer (both classes focus on STR and AGI). The bad news is that you won't be able to get versatility with a single class anymore (Liliths and Lucifers don't exist in this game), so cross-classing is almost a necessity here.
My favorite is Ninja Gish with Wizard's magics mastered.
Your videos are clear and well spoken/put together, and the information is useful and interesting. I hope your channel, and this game take off like a rocket!
There is a tactical RPG made by some great people over on Steam called "Troubleshooters: Abandoned Children" that is so good its hard to see how its only a niche title other then people just don't know it exists. Its like a hybrid of fire emblem meets Persona. Check it out when you have the time, and if you talk to the devs, tell em "Steel Midnight" recommended you. They may even give you a key so you can review it as well if you tell dandylion you have a gaming channel.. Keep up the quality work.
Only quality over here, yo! ;) Thanks for the kind words!
Yea, I'll definitely reach out to the devs to see about a review for the game. Thanks for the heads up on it. Never heard of the title until now. I'll reach out! Cheers!
Woow this is awesome. I have been playing brigandine since 2000. I wonder if someone like Aldis can be found through quest mode .
There are knights like that. Dyzenys and Anemone being a couple of them.
Forgot this game was releasing until I stumbled on this video. What a exciting surprise. I was usually a casual brigandine player so all this is cross class stuff is new to me. Thanks for the guide
My pleasure. 😁👌
I would have liked to see knight classes that needed hybrid builds. For example, Dark Knight could have required mastery in Knight and Berserker, as a nod to how you got a dark knight in the old game.
I definitely have build vids planned in the future so I'll definitely incorporate those after I have access to the full game. That way I can cover a bunch of builds, if not ALL of them in one video. I may split it into Country specific vids to highlight individual knights.
To go all out offensive knight, I prefer main Sword Master/ Champion ability.
SM skill to do massive damage with 50% chance of critical + champion critical extra damage will be huge.
They work so well together. I'm definitely gonna have at LEAST one of those combos in every playthrough I'd say. I wanna experiment with a top notch Caster Class soon.
I also think that Sword Master/Champion will be possibly the most offensive combination, but it's not as good as you think (the Critical Damage Up from the Champion doesn't carry over to other classes). To get the most out of it, you need to master the Sword Master class (which gives you HP Recovery B and Critical Rate Up B) and then switch to Champion (to get Critical Damage Up and Accuracy Up S).
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That works the other way around too but the design of champion character is somwhat....ugly though.
Which one between the two has a better Pre-Move attack? Or the same massive dmg?
@@SmoothDesigner The Sword Master's skills aren't still fully known because there isn't one in the continent (the "class" menu lists the skills/spells and abilities of all classes, but doesn't describe their powers or MP costs). Also, since pre-moves usually cost MP now, that also has to be taken into account. However (if the Brigandine wiki is right), it looks like Sword Masters will deal more damage (but, like i said before, the Critical Damage Up ability from the Champion doesn't carry over to other classes) . Here are their movesets:
Champion (skill name/power/mp cost/description):
Divine Blow - 125 - 0 - Normal Attack. Deals moderate damage to a single adjacent enemy unit. Pushes the enemy back by 1 hex (if the hex is unoccupied).
Maximum Rush (pre-move) - 230 - 100 - Deals massive damage to a single adjacent enemy unit. (2.3 power/MP)
Vacuum Uppercut - 125 - 30 - Deals moderate damage to a single adjacent enemy unit. Recover HP equal to 20% of damage dealt. (4.1 power/MP)
Fighting Focus - X - 45 - Increases your Attack for a limited number of turns.
Sword Master (skill name/power/mp cost/description):
Refined Fang Slash - 135 - 0 - Normal attack. Deals major damage to a single adjacent enemy unit.
Refined Iaido Blade (pre-move) - 185 - 60 - Deals massive damage to a single adjacent enemy unit. (3.08 power/MP)
Idle Flash - 250 - 140 - Deals massive damage to a single adjacent enemy unit. Critical damage +50%. (1.78 power/MP)
Swift Stance - X - 25 - Increases your AGI for a limited number of turns.
So Sword Masters have more powerful attacks, but Champions's attacks also have added effects (like pushing the enemy or absorbing HP).
Do you guys prefer rushing through the game, or taking your time?
Personally, though I do really love this new Brigandine, I don't like the "rush" thing, after finishing a very tedious Challenge mode, I have to say there are better ways to increase challenge other then taking away resources/knights and making you bum rush the game. I REALLY wish there was a harder difficulty without the time restraints or limitations on recruitable rune knights. Yeah, its supposed to offer a challenge (and it did!) but I would much rather have a hard mode without such limitations as time or number of knights, ect. Just wanted to see if anyone else felt that way....
Others definitely sympathize with you. I don't mind the time restraints on story, but Challenge Mode shouldn't have them.
As someone who played the original. I already know this. Ever seen a paladin Dinadan cast power to himself then casting holyword next turn. Mwah. Talk about cleaning 🏠.
Or making a Shinobi Gish but with Wizard's magics repertoire.
cortina(witch-saint), merriot(artemis-valk) usually the lv1s are the best to cross class
Observation on magic user classes:
tier 3 Wizard - male mage Kit - got nerfed hard in this new game without access to OG Druid/ Necromancer.
tier 2 - 3 Sorceress/ Witch got nerfed with Fallberg now being given to tier 3 Royal Knight originally Valkyrie.
Tier 3 Seraph is now designed to be more of a magic support role with the elimination Lucifer kit.
Would love to hear how people experience the Bard/ Minstrel/ Troubadour kit in the gameplay - the designated Green mage.
The buffs and react of the troubadour is surprisingly strong.
@@andrewhegstrom2187 but not always cost effective without MP grind
5:51 I always felt hesitant about cross-classing between melee/spellcasting classes (because their stat growths are usually not compatible), but I do admit the versatility could be interesting (since you're not useless once you run out of MP).
7:40 I understand why some abilites (like Dominate Sky and Shield Block) don't carry over to other classes (they're dependent on specific kinds of equipment), but I still think more abilities (the more "general" ones) should carry over (like Critical Damage Up, Sidestep, and Parry) - once again, it just feels they're doing that to enforce the "uniqueness" of each class, and not because it makes sense.
9:23 The enlightenment scroll is such a good addition! I agree that the optimal use of it would be on leaders who "lost" one proficiency level because they "overleveled" in the same class by a single level, but you can still take that to the extreme: I'm looking forward to seeing the "jack-of-all-trades" builds that are gonna come out of that (the 2nd producer letter said that the time limit gets lifted at some point, so it will be possible to keep questing until you get enough of those items) - bonus points if you do that with Jack :P
34:44 Even with the equipment being able to add elemental variety to the Ancient Dragon, I still feel weird about all of them being red-elemental: not only because they're negating the elemental choice you've made in the previous tier, but also because that feels like contradictory design (I mean, they let nightmares have spells from the previous tier despite the elemental shift from dark to white, so why not let dragons keep (some of) the characteristics of the previous tier as well?). I also don't understand why they're requiring promotion items for so many 3rd tier classes, and abolishing 4th tier classes (Lucifers and Liliths) altogether (I think regulating the level up/growth rate is a better way to impose barriers to classing up).
There's some other neat things about hybridizing mages and fighters besides not being useless with no MP. Like cutting through the frontline to get oneself placed in range of a critical damage spell, buffing another better positioned unit with Power or Halo, being a frontline healer that can evade & counter while tending to the team, etc. it's all so great!
Looks game was rushed, yet still a good game.
Do you reckon Is it worth to downclass and get the proficiency or no?
Yes, absolutely. Depends on the knight though. If you're trying to beat the game for the first time, I wouldn't worry about it too much. But you can get some busted builds this way.
So I'm curious. I've been allowing my heroes to get dual classes, but I run into an issue mid game where their heroes are mostly at tier 3 and none of mine are. Like, its nice that my berserker can heal and all, but when they deal 400 damage and i'm healing 100-200, it seems counter intuitive. I've dealt with this so far by baiting and focusing those heroes and killing them as quick as possible, so I can roam around their kingdom a few turns without dealing with them/earning the exp off their lvl 20+ heroes, but i'm wondering if there are ways that others deal with this issue.
edit: I also use 2-3 Pegasus an army as well as one healer hero and 2 or so specialty monsters: Imp/Mermaid/(sometimes demon), so I try to silent and charm when I can to put holes in their defenses.
First of all, let me commend you for crossing your berserker with a healer, lol. I don't see it that often, so kudos! So I found the best way to deal with a heavy hitting leader is the Weakness and Magic Down Spells, depending on the leader. Weakness on Rudo for example makes a HUGE difference in his power output and was a game-changer every time I faced him. I'd recommend evolving to Nightmares instead of Pegasus for the majority of your Unicorns. Yes, Halo can help a Low AGL leader to hit their big boy attacks, however I would run 2 Nightmares and 1 Pegasus per Team. 3 Nightmares if you don't need Halo. Other units can of course make use of Weakness and Magic Down, but you'll mostly want them to do damage. Nightmares are mostly supportive anyways, plus they keep the Heal and Cure spells.
Another way to deal with the issue is to abuse Magic Down and Status Effects because the lower the INT is on a unit, the more likely they are to be hit with Stone, Poison, or Charm for example. Dimension is also popular in this scenario. Take note if they have any means to CURE the status effects. If not, have fun! ;)
@@TheStellarArcade Nah, I meant the healing from the Knight. That WOULD be cool though to use your spin to win strat with area healing capabilities.
Thanks for the insight. I took care of the problem on easy by being really agressive and clearing the map before they build up, but I have a feeling that wont work with the harder difficulties.
@@STStillwell , You can still make good momentum on Hard Difficulty when you get more experience on the battlefield. You'll need to consider more of what the enemy can do in relationship to your positioning to succeed on harder difficulties. Example, I learned the hard way to NEVER position a unit, especially a Leader, within EXACTLY 4 spaces of an enemy unit who can cast Dimension. The AI will prioritze Damage over Dimension if you're within range of their Offensive Spells/Skills, such as Venom. Tim is a good example of this along with Tier 2-3 Demons, etc.
Really hoping the price of switch will be close to normal when the game officially launch
Just wondering do u change ur classes when ever u get a profiency level 5 for every character?
It isn't necessary at higher levels but if you want the most variety then yes.
Your getting me so hyped to get this I've not seen a game like this since tactics ogre I was told they had in depth stuff like this on ps4 they were wrong. Ty for getting me jonesed for this lol
That's what I'm here for. 😉
So i cross my monk to figther at lv 6. Now he is lv 10 but figther proficiency is only at 4. Should i just up the class on monk or level up to lv 11 to get my proficiency to 5? What is the harm of not max proficiency when cross classing before up the class tier?
So this has been one of Brigandine's known issues. Luckily, the devs put in an item you can Quest for called an Enlightenment Scroll, which ups your proficiency by 1 upon consumption. If you are unable to find one, then go ahead and Master your Proficiency at level 11. Better to get your Passive Abilities carried over now rather than waiting for a scroll.
kewl even without cross classing, I loved original legend of forsenia..but now with commanders able to Cross Classing? EVEN BETTER! thanks for making this video!!!
You're welcome!
how do I class up my rulers? When I first played, I chose Eliza and her faction. I noticed not long after that rival rulers were classing up, rubino to crown prince, Talia to grand mother, yet my Eliza never classed up to rose valkerie. I then started a new game as Prince rubino in hopes of his early class up....nope. Talia and now even Eliza classed up early to grand mother and rose valkerie, respectively. What gives? my rulers are almost max level now and nothing, can you help?
After consulting with the Discord, the consensus seems to be the player must conquer between 25-28 territories in order to class up (depending on the faction). Certain Story Events will take place for the class ups. The AI is designed to get theirs much earlier.
We need a DLC for this game!
Yes, bring back fafnir, lilith, lucifer, thor.
So have u played all the nations? Which one do u like the best? Holy gustava empire is pretty bad ass.
I'm currently uploading my Murelva LP, which is my 3rd. Gustava was my first and remains my favorite for now.
Im here to repfresh my self to play brigandine again.. used to play this game on the ps 1 favorate country is iscalio.. thank for the guide...
You're welcome!
So basically this brigandine cross class are the same system with the old brigandine from PSX
Correct, but they made it easier to to master classes by being able to quest for Enlightenment Scrolls. Really nice Quality of Life upgrade.
@@TheStellarArcade ah I see, i quite nervous when this game first showed up. I will buy it later, but I just got the feeling this new one will be a lot different than the old one
While interesting, single class characters are better in general. Why? You will always have the correct stats for the skills plus you wont have to change your items around for each class. Also, personally, i spam training asap with every character i can. Level has a lot to do with what you find in quests. Low level...yeah, youre not going to get above red arrow. you want at least 3 levels to find extra Knights with an efficiency, plus, you NEED to find those rare items that let you level up to the elite monsters.
I disagree. While I can see the benefits of stats in a single class, it's never going to trump Variety. That being said, there's no reason you can't do well without cross-classing, however opening up your options to deal with any given situation is far superior. The game encourages cross-classing for this very reason. The same thing can be said about Questing. Locations are based off Level AND your Class. Having characters that can bounce between Tier 2 classes and above covers a lot more ground to receive 3 rankings or more.
@@TheStellarArcade The benefit isnt worth it. You need Tier 3 in a class to get the star. Splitting up your classes so that you have a bunch of t1 is not a good strategy..sure, you will find lots of stuff at a broader range of locations, but its all going to be tier 1 or next to useless. To get tier 3 items, need lvl 20 and tier 3 class. After you get your tier 3 though, you can switch classes to cover more bases.
@@rpscorp9457 I know you need Tier 3 class and level 20 to get best results. I made a whole video on it. I never said that you should be crossing between ALL Tier 1s either. Majority of the time you will only be crossing between one additional class such as Barb/Monk or Dancer/Lancer. It very much is worth the effort for battles and questing and isn't hard to accomplish.
Hello guys, how to get proficiency after changes class ? Im on lvl 30 right now
Quest for Enlightenment Scrolls. They will up your proficiency by 1 upon consumption.
So basically can I change a lv 30 mage to a lv 30 dark knight once i hit the max level?
You would need to master the Knight Class first, but yes. Shoot for the level 5 Proficiency.
Does Champion still have "+10% Crit?" Would make that passive a staple to crossbreed with Dark Knight or Paladin 🤤
Champions have a Crit Damage Up passive, so it would be ideal to cross the Sword Master with Champion.
Can you still increase your profeciency level if you are lvl 30 already?
Yes you can. Quest for Enlightenment Scrolls or Rebirth Elixirs. Scrolls give you proficiency and Elixirs reduce your level without reducing stats.
PS or switch version?
I'm liking the PS version better. Smoother controls
I have yet to try the PS4 version. Just came out today so I may give a test run later.
I think all monsters should have 3 tiers. Just my opinion!
Agreed! Who knows. We may see that happen in later updates.
@@TheStellarArcade ahaaa! It may be possible. I did read earlier before the game released that they were not going to do any extra content or DLC, but who knows. Sounds like to me its getting popular, it comes out of the ps4 in December. It was just for switch at the time
And another thing what are ur pros and cons with the game? Is the highest u can level ur character 30?
Yes. Max level is 30.
The Pros and Cons would be a VERY long list lol. I'm actually compiling a video like that where the community is giving feedback on the game in Discord. Once I get a chance to access Challenge Mode, I'll be releasing that video.
@@TheStellarArcade I love the art and the soundtrack. My only thing is I think the battlefield graphics could've been more detailed, and the character units could've been better as well, especially when class changing.
Rune Knight's Class portrait looks so generic. I understand they are supposed to be faceless, but the general design is so generic, plain, like disposable random troops. Very disappointing considering how glorious character portraits/ designs are.
If the easy mode of this game has no time limit in conquering the continent, Imma farm the heck out of those enlightenment scrolls lmao
Imagine a Rune Knight with a ton of spells and abilities omg
Oh yes. This will happen! 🤘😎
Not to mention stats buff
That knight literally crush ruler on 1 vs 1
This game is great, and so your channel
Ty! Means a lot.
I hope the official game will have more of class changes
I didn't showcase all classes. There's already more here than in the Original.
@@TheStellarArcade I checked the fan wiki and the monsters class changes are a little disappointing, and there's no scorpions, my favorite, lol, but it's already magical that we have this game.
@@phucluu100 , interesting. I think the monster classes have been flushed pretty nicely. One big example if the basic Dragon being able to class up to any element Dragon of your choice. Keep in mind the Wiki is new and still being built, so there is room for additions.
That scroll is a good find! Open up lots of growth to knights. Though its rare, getting 5 at least is game changing.
So happy they gave that to us! It was always so disappointing that we couldn't Prioritize Rankings correctly. This will open up a lot more variety.
Noticed when changing class knight is far less useful. I try and use every knight. On harder difficulty. It’s hard to give up a middle class in a group that needs that healer or spell user class. In a group of 3 sometimes it’s best. Or move knights around. Found it’s easier to let them be till 16. Then persue other classes but some movement needs to happen as far weaker low tier. On hard difficulty can easily get fucked up. Usually I form a team. One healer. One dps and one tank. It’s a pain in the ass to try and switch a healer😮 into a dps or tank. So avoid it.and focus on monsters. To take those role’s.
My point is if trying to switch from dps to a tank for example. Need to move troops around. And be ready, baby it till useful .for 5 levels at least.
It's not less useful if your monster team is able to compensate for the loss your leader takes when switching classes. Example, if you lose any healing abilities after switching, then Unicorns/Angels can more than make up for that. You shouldn't be switching classes anyways before mastering Healing Spells. The idea is to Master your Class so Spells and Passive Abilities carry over. This makes it far easier to switch classes without losing support from the previous. Also, consider a leader's stats before making a change. You would never want to cross a low STR Mage into a Tank or Melee DPS (unless you want to experiment). You don't always need the "Holy Trinity" of Tank/DPS/Healer on your squads. Monsters are meant to fill those roles that are lacking.
Magic Knight is the best 😁😁😁
anybody here kind enough to hook me up with a physical copy.. it isnt available here in the uae..
ah so it has the same system as the classic one
Yes indeed, with some QoL improvements.
Mage models looks weird.. hahaha
I think the Monk models look the weirdest. I get the low budget argument, however some of these need an overhaul, lol. Still got some time though before release. We'll see. ;)
Thanks for this vid!
My pleasure. ;)
What console it's that
Switch
do you think raising knight level is better from the new Training Ground feature or bring them to battle? in the old game I remember there was not that feature and only way to raise knight is we have to bring it to combat.
Training Grounds seem to be really effective until a knight reaches level 11. My strategy would be to train them to level 6, change class, then level to 11. Enlightenment Scrolls are ideal here so you can cross at level 5 and stop the training grounds at level 10.
With the Switch being sold out, you're gonna be my fix for Brigandine Val. I'm counting on you to feed my addiction.
In the words of the great Turbo Man: "You can always count on me!" 😎👍
Wheres fafnir 😢
Sword Master is the new Shogun?
Yes
Precisely. ;) I will miss the Iai Slash though.
@@TheStellarArcade
Me too.
Well the similar skill is exclusive for bazoo knight this time.
Omg, they are x2 Green now instead of non elemental?! Ugh...
Also seem that + 20% Hit rate from the Samurai/ Shogun Kit is now "Accuracy Up" given to Monk??
This game reminds me of grand kingdom.
I've played that before. Great game!
Im here now on my ps4 pro hmm do i buy brigandine.. 50bucks.. From your reviews i see is my type of rpg. I love lots of party members. 😎
@@fairygamer77 , The PS4 version is amazing! Super Smooth. Highly recommend. ;)
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