Batu Kutelia - State Capture of Georgia and its Political Institutions by Russia is Nearly Complete.

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  • Batu Kutelia has over a decade of experience in international relations, and currently serves as a Senior Fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute. He is a former Ambassador to the USA and former Head of Georgia’s Foreign Intelligence Service. He is a member of the board at the Atlantic Council of Georgia and Professor at the Alte University, Tbilisi, Georgia. He was co-author and TV co-host of the Foreign Affairs talk show at the Mtavari TV in 2020-2021. He is frequent contributor to the major national and international TV, printed and online media on the issues of national and international security, Russian hybrid warfare, defense and security sector reform and policies.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 177

  • @junj0u
    @junj0u Місяць тому +26

    Thank you for bringing people’s awareness to this. Trying to convince my father to understand the destructive ambitions of Russia…

    • @aachoocrony5754
      @aachoocrony5754 Місяць тому

      You mean the destructive ambitions of the USSA. Their second coup attempt in Georgia unlike the first will fail. Thanks to the people of Georgia waking up.

    • @18_rabbit
      @18_rabbit Місяць тому

      yep, so many westners have no concept of the steady-state grinding machine that Ru/ussr always was. Basic anthro, sociology can inform on this, if ppl need deep dives i guess! But it's obvious to any student of history!

  • @phillee2814
    @phillee2814 Місяць тому +14

    Great guest, and bonus marks for citing Sir Isaac Newton in pointing out that force needs to be countered by an equal force just to remain stationary, and a greater force to push it back.

  • @daveslater
    @daveslater Місяць тому +8

    No one seems to care more about a positive Ukraine outcome than President Zelenskyy, Jens Stoltenbuerg and your cadre of passionate guests. Wake up everyone of us!

  • @DarkestAlice
    @DarkestAlice Місяць тому +2

    Thank you, Jonathan and Batu Kutelia, for this very engaging conversation. I am thankful to Jonathan for drawing the strings together. We need to be very clear about the interconnections of the current conflicts and about who is pulling those strings. Silicon Curtain contributes to lifting the veil of darkness. Thanks!
    🇺🇦 Перемоги та миру всім українцям! 🇺🇦

  • @sweetlord3672
    @sweetlord3672 Місяць тому +18

    They very nearly did this in poland. A lot of information is now surfacing about various connections between PiS (the recently defeated anti EU government) and various Russian services. The journalist to speak to is Tomasz Piątek (also to be found and on tube). the same playbook as Orban.
    In fact, all the eurosceptic parties in the EU have Russian connections

    • @PandemoniumMeltDown
      @PandemoniumMeltDown Місяць тому +3

      Enemies of the state(s).

    • @DSAK55
      @DSAK55 Місяць тому +4

      They very nearly did this in America. A lot of information is now surfacing about various connections between GOP and various Russian services.

    • @18_rabbit
      @18_rabbit Місяць тому +6

      @@DSAK55 that's right! i'm an american of centrist orientation for my whole life until now that i'm becoming more liberal, and i was a student of international politics long ago. Ru is clearly influential in american conservative circles in the most insidious and dangerous ways. The connections were very clear starting ten years ago.

    • @dubbelhenke854
      @dubbelhenke854 Місяць тому

      ​@@DSAK55It's truly scary. Proven bribery to EU politicians, interference in American politics etc. 25% of the recent Russian budget is secret. Small wonder.....😢

    • @sweetlord3672
      @sweetlord3672 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@DSAK55turns out Clarence Thomas like to holiday in Russia, too

  • @alex990ism
    @alex990ism Місяць тому +7

    very good interview, great guest, very straightforward and to the point with no bs

  • @normandduern2413
    @normandduern2413 Місяць тому +10

    Very informative exposition of a very under-reported subject.

  • @morgan9hough
    @morgan9hough Місяць тому +20

    So important to highlight the other countries in which Russia is undermining their democratic institutions

    • @aachoocrony5754
      @aachoocrony5754 Місяць тому

      That is the US undermining democracy in countries all along Russia and China's borders. Ukraine and Georgia are just 2 of them. Add Kazakhstan, Armenia, Myanmar, Thailand, Pakistan, Azerbaijan, Iran, etc etc

    • @phillee2814
      @phillee2814 Місяць тому +1

      @@aachoocrony5754 If the US or any of the Western allies were genocidal, as Muscovia is, the argument you are trying to make might have some merit.
      But as it is only the Muscovian empire which practices genocide (at least in Europe - the CCP must answer for Asia and other nations for Africa), the argument you seem to make fails utterly to have merit.
      🇺🇦Slava Ukraini!🇺🇦🇬🇧

    • @aachoocrony5754
      @aachoocrony5754 Місяць тому

      @@phillee2814 'some merit'? Read again and remember the list of countries. No one is fooled except people like you. The US is responsible for most genocides across the world, and that includes the current one in Ukraine. So in response as the proxy wars ramp up, you might have to fight against Mexicans armed w (superior) Russians and Chinese equipment. It's 50/50 at this point. Congratulations.

    • @aachoocrony5754
      @aachoocrony5754 Місяць тому

      @@phillee2814 the vast majority of Africa prefer the Chinese to the US. The same goes for Asia. The ones aligned (forcibly) w the US have a good chance of turning into another proxy, like Ukraine, which means it will be destroyed faster than Ukraine is being, because it is a real war, not an smo. And yes, that most likely means your front yard is game and turned into Gaza. Your hypocrisy doesn't fool a single country, not even our allies.

    • @18_rabbit
      @18_rabbit Місяць тому +1

      @@phillee2814 um, yes, but u left out the bulk of what any counter to that is, which is that the US supports clearly & only democratic free movements, human rights, etc in any country that is open to it. It's basic sociology, ain't complicated actually.

  • @Joe44944
    @Joe44944 Місяць тому +4

    Great guest as always!
    Thanks.

  • @robm.4512
    @robm.4512 Місяць тому +2

    This was possibly the best and most clearly stated exposition I’ve heard of Russian authoritarian methodology for the overthrow of nations.
    I find your “light touch” approach, that lets your guests speak fully, whilst keeping the conversation moving forward when necessary, very engaging.
    Thank you for presenting these pieces, they’re so important to keeping the world informed and cutting through the dross that floods the media spaces.
    Cheers, R. 😎👍🍻

    • @SiliconCurtain
      @SiliconCurtain  Місяць тому +1

      👍👍👍 our naivety in letting Russia get away with it is shocking.

  • @nadenek
    @nadenek Місяць тому +1

    Thank you Jonathon for finding another great guest to interview.

  • @terryhand
    @terryhand Місяць тому +1

    Excellent guest. I love his reference to Wolland's (Stalin's?) rather puzzling remark from the Master and Margarita. But more importantly he is absolutely spot on on about defeating Putin and the West's naivity.

  • @ibeetellingya5683
    @ibeetellingya5683 Місяць тому +4

    Heck, it's nearly complete in America. We are all Georgians.

    • @dubsar
      @dubsar Місяць тому +1

      From time to time people seem to forget that life is preferable to death. Millions are enlisted in useless wars and the gene pool is cleaned from self-destructive tendencies. It happened 90 years ago.
      Humans are still in the process of self-taming, and the process of pruning a few branches is ongoing. Give humans 140 more years.

  • @johncromwell2529
    @johncromwell2529 Місяць тому +6

    Thx for great interviews

  • @dsnewby
    @dsnewby Місяць тому +1

    As always fantastic guest & talk. I‘m astonished about the frequency that you produce your content with. Thank you 🙏

  • @5ty717
    @5ty717 Місяць тому

    As usual… and despite such a wide variety of talkers (this chap is so eloquent but would run the relay alone if he could) EXCELLENT. You are the -or one of the - greatest hosts. Thx Jon.

  • @Curtis-ev3tz
    @Curtis-ev3tz Місяць тому +3

    Very conscience evaluation, can't argue a single point!

    • @aachoocrony5754
      @aachoocrony5754 Місяць тому

      Lol. Try substituting Russia with the USSA and you are very near the truth. Yes, we're the baddies, not the Russians.

  • @agustinussiahaan6669
    @agustinussiahaan6669 Місяць тому

    Thank you, Jonathan.
    Good conversation and information.
    Support from Indonesia.

  • @djparn007
    @djparn007 Місяць тому +3

    Thank you, Jonathan. Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦

    • @aachoocrony5754
      @aachoocrony5754 Місяць тому

      Salva what? Does Ukraine look like it's thriving today?

    • @susieroberts8175
      @susieroberts8175 Місяць тому

      @@aachoocrony5754 it's doing better than Russia, because Putin is a murderer and a coward.

  • @user-kw2vk2wu8t
    @user-kw2vk2wu8t Місяць тому +2

    Great, thanks!

  • @cg986
    @cg986 Місяць тому +2

    Amazing

  • @andrewthomson137
    @andrewthomson137 Місяць тому

    You always come up with important geopolitecs, Thanks.

  • @paulchambers3142
    @paulchambers3142 Місяць тому +1

    Very good guest covering a subject which has dropped out of the news.
    Russia will be defeated and will be reined in as far as other neighbours are concerned.

  • @shodan6401
    @shodan6401 Місяць тому +2

    "...it is impossible for Russia to remain in its current state... so we should not be afraid if Russia further de-colonizes"
    NOBODY is talking about this - we don't need just a victory for Ukraine, we need the complete defeat of Russia and the dissolution of its colonized territories.
    Siberia, Mongolia, Yakutz (don't @ me for spelling, that's not the point), etc. ALL of these territories are completely different cultural regions that are currently exploited by Russia for the profits of their resources to be sent to Moscow and they do not determine their own destiny.
    What we currently call Russia needs to be free from the dominance of Moscow and become independent states. No different than the breakup of the Austrio-Hungarian Empire.
    But no one in the West can even imagine this reality, let alone acknowledge its necessity. Russia breeds imperialists.
    The breakup of Russia is going to be inescapable - if this is not a goal, if this outcome is delayed after the Ukraine victory and the fall of Putin, then a full scale WWIII in Europe will be waiting for us in the future.
    Just like WWII was waiting for us after WWI.

  • @BogdanTestsSoftware
    @BogdanTestsSoftware Місяць тому +1

    In our current shock ridden world, the situation in Georgia is not shocking enough to generate enough clicks, hearts & minds to generate revenue for corporate media

  • @ikeshel
    @ikeshel Місяць тому +4

    Thanks!

  • @Silvius.2
    @Silvius.2 Місяць тому +4

    Russian not need occupies georgia militarily!
    Like belarus its not needed!
    Letting georgian thinking still be free🙉🙈!

  • @victoriahigman6802
    @victoriahigman6802 Місяць тому

    Very helpful man. Thank you

  • @myroslavabasladynsky4937
    @myroslavabasladynsky4937 Місяць тому

    Western democracies have been too slow to understand the threat that countries like Russia pose to their stability. Your guest understands the techniques used - most importantly, the insidious nature of Russian disinformation.

  • @davidgab4448
    @davidgab4448 Місяць тому +1

    Can we please have an interview with LazerPig? 😊

  • @martinwatts3796
    @martinwatts3796 Місяць тому

    Good guest, and I know for a fact he speaks all the truth. I live in Tbilisi.....

  • @WalterBurton
    @WalterBurton Місяць тому +1

    👍👍👍

  • @user-ue3qf2vd7l
    @user-ue3qf2vd7l Місяць тому

    Wouldn't want to just get along and everyone have a good time

  • @user-ue3qf2vd7l
    @user-ue3qf2vd7l Місяць тому

    When will Russia realise that if they would go away no-one will miss them

  • @terjeoseberg990
    @terjeoseberg990 Місяць тому

    Everyone stopped talking about Georgia. What happened with the protests and the Russian law?

  • @user-ue3qf2vd7l
    @user-ue3qf2vd7l Місяць тому +1

    Thanks a lot Russia and China as we live in the world

  • @victoriahigman6802
    @victoriahigman6802 Місяць тому +1

    I think Ukraine can teach us all about courage

  • @pcopeland15
    @pcopeland15 Місяць тому

    I have a question: Do political parties even exist in an age of social media? Political parties assume a program and platform. To contrast democracy with autocracy the democracies need to function in a recognizably traditional fashion. Does that still hold true? I saw all the protestors in the street in Tblisi. What is their organizational structure?

    • @susieroberts8175
      @susieroberts8175 Місяць тому

      Excellent point, and excellent rhetorical question.

    • @pcopeland15
      @pcopeland15 Місяць тому +1

      @@susieroberts8175 Self determination does exist however. I just think we and our parties are highly influenced by headlines and fleeting attention.

  • @user-ue3qf2vd7l
    @user-ue3qf2vd7l Місяць тому

    All these people live in the neighbourhood and it's time to live in the world

  • @user-ue3qf2vd7l
    @user-ue3qf2vd7l Місяць тому

    Stop owning something that you cannot control

  • @Nenad-qz7zo
    @Nenad-qz7zo 26 днів тому

    A new democratic development as result of Russia- Ukraine war
    Through various programs, a new management class of the Russian Federation is being formed from the participants of the special military operation. Through the Time of Heroes program alone, 40 thousand military personnel have already entered the echelons of power, and 530 thousand SVO participants have been registered. They and their family members are provided with various benefits, free training in management, education, etc. About 90 thousand participants of the special military operation have already become part of government structures at the federal level.

  • @user-ue3qf2vd7l
    @user-ue3qf2vd7l Місяць тому

    Nobody is listening so good luck with getting justice and a peaceful life

    • @susieroberts8175
      @susieroberts8175 Місяць тому +1

      I'm listening, and I am part of a network.

  • @victoriahigman6802
    @victoriahigman6802 Місяць тому

    Please forgive our lack of help when you were invaded

  • @user-ue3qf2vd7l
    @user-ue3qf2vd7l Місяць тому

    Let's not forget Ukraine supplied 40 per cent of GDP for the Soviet Union and that's 40 million supplying almost half for 140 million and who keeps doing that

  • @halporter9
    @halporter9 Місяць тому

    Election in the fall?

  • @oldernu1250
    @oldernu1250 Місяць тому

    Men with guns are not often open to polite discourse. Western influence? People agree to be serfs or not.

  • @mat3714
    @mat3714 Місяць тому

    Algorithm

  • @ja1756
    @ja1756 Місяць тому

    Is the guest a brother of the Itv Gay guy on Father Ted and The Eurovision and lots of other own shows Can't remember his name but don't they look alike . Ah Father Doogle or Graham Norton 😄😊🫡

  • @user-ue3qf2vd7l
    @user-ue3qf2vd7l Місяць тому +1

    Get over your petty problems and realise Mother Nature Rules and whoever you are you are tiny and insignificant

    • @mvjh2277
      @mvjh2277 Місяць тому +2

      We are stewards of our Mother Earth.

  • @betterdonotanswer
    @betterdonotanswer Місяць тому +1

    26:30 Believing that Ukraine already escaped the fate of Georgia is a dangerous illusion or delusion. Ukraine remains the same captured state even now, during the Muscovite invasion. Zelensky himself and every single person in his administration all worked for Yanukovich, ousted president who fled to Muscovy in 2014. General Syrsky, the CGS of Ukraine, is a Muscovite officer infiltrated into ZSU back in 1990s.

    • @nigelgarrett7970
      @nigelgarrett7970 Місяць тому +1

      Try harder. Between 2010 and 2014 Zelenskyy was acting in and producing films. Zelenskyy claims Yanukovych offered him money in exchange for control over content, but this was refused. So please tell us how this is working for Yanukovych?

    • @SiliconCurtain
      @SiliconCurtain  Місяць тому +1

      Come on - if this was the case, they would not be fighting the war - they would have fled to Moscow along with the other puppets and agents?

    • @betterdonotanswer
      @betterdonotanswer Місяць тому

      Q: Try harder... So please...
      A: The Muscovites and intellectually related criters are not allowed to ask, beg or plead without permission.

    • @betterdonotanswer
      @betterdonotanswer Місяць тому

      Q: Zelenskyy was acting in and producing films...
      A: Zelensky was producing trash Ukrainophobic movies financed from the Muscovite budget directly, still aired in Muscovy. During the election of 2004 his trash Ukrainophobic comedy show campaigned for Yanukovich under the slogan «Youth for Yanukovich».

    • @betterdonotanswer
      @betterdonotanswer Місяць тому

      Q: Zelenskyy claims...
      A: Zelensky lies.

  • @user-ue3qf2vd7l
    @user-ue3qf2vd7l Місяць тому

    Not great english there

  • @V_Litty
    @V_Litty Місяць тому +1

    @69thSniffingBrigade Help99 Campaign when??