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Live Streaming Audio - How to use an Aux Mix
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- Опубліковано 21 тра 2018
- In this video I'll show you how to use an Aux feed from your sound board for your live streaming audio. First I'll show you how to connect the mixer to your camera, and then I'll show you some methods for mixing on an AUX output.
Several comments have mentioned phantom power connected to the input of the mixer. The R800 does not output phantom power on it's Mic input. (It only works with battery operated condensers or dynamic mics.) If you're camera does have phantom power on it's mic input, then you may need to use a phantom power blocker: amzn.to/2Mg9pRT
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Hi first thank you for taking the time to share all of this imformation, my Church only started streaming due to the cov 19, we have a GL4000 Allen and Heath analog desk with additional equipment eqs, effects, delays and compressors.After watching your video with the Q16 I was wondering how to go about doing the similar on the analog desk.
Should i come from the aux on the desk into the eq then to input on the compressor and out from the compressor to the input on the camera?
look forward to your advice
@@Fragilecoconut yes, that sounds like the right path and should work fine.
Hi can I send you message to your email ? for my question ?
How did you connect the mixer to the kive stream? Usb?
This is gold! Great advice, as I'm a church multimedia guy. I did this for my church and had to figure all of these on my own, which took a long time. Having this video would've eliminated a lot of guesswork and trial & errors. I remember how we had to figure out how to eliminate ground loop on camcorder as well. What a hard lesson to learn, as we heard this awful buzz coming from our uploaded church service, which we couldn't get rid of. Later, we used DI box instead with ground lift, but I'd definitely try Ebtech Hum Eliminiator in the future.
"For 90% of situations, the mix for the room and the mix for the stream are different." "You've got to think like you're mixing for a recording."
Extra points for PANNING -- use that stereo field to sweeten up that mix!!
Yes, Yes, Yes! Thank you so much for reminding us of the basics!! ;)
RE: Lead Vocal getting buried, my preference is still to have the main vocal "pop" out front -- backup vox get panned / more FX.
A criticism from my early years was that I would mix too "loud" for other peoples' tastes, so I've learned to mix from a "subtractive" approach: Instead of always thinking, "what needs to be LOUDER," I think, "What can I decrease in my mix, so other sounds are more prominent?" It's a great method to quiet a soundstage full of wedge monitors, you can reduce straining your ears in a personal IEM -- easy to quickly reduce a muddy mix.
This was the video I needed to see. I was so confused about how to mix the aux send but now I’ve got it. Thank you so much.
I have seen this video many many times and every time I come back it helps me somehow! We are now learning about mixers. Thank you so much for your help! May God bless you
These are the best tutorials out there! Especially on live streaming. Thanks!
Great video, glad to finally find a video that delves deep into the live streaming of a live band with musicians and vocalists most are about spoken word streams and do not give so many detailed suggestions. Looking forward to digging into more of your vids to get myself better educated on the entire live music live streaming process. Very much appreciated!
Hello Steven. You have answered to some of my questions that’s I’ve been looking for. Thank you. God bless you and your family.
Great video. Thanks for all the info. Our church has just started livestream here in fiji and your videos are just what I've been looking for.
Absolutely fantastic content Ballast Media! Found your channel while searching for techniques to improve our livestream audio in OBS. Really appreciate your concise and detailed explanations...you're an excellent teacher. Can't wait to try some of your suggestions for improving not only our stream sound but also our PA sound, both FOH and on Stage. Thank you very much.
I am so glad I found you! Hands down the most practical help given for churches. Thanks!
Great to hear you will do a room mic video, that is the stage we are about to get to. I've "hit that bell" to be ready for the upload.
Bizarre how similar our setup is to your video, Taking a Aux from a Qu24, channels 9&10, first into a low end camcorder, then discovering we needed an attenuator (line to mic). Now upgraded to a Blackmagic TVSHD.
The iPad control app for the Qu desk has been perfect for me to mix a stream and leave the main house PA operator to do his job.
You are awesome at explaining and showing things! Thank you so much for uploading such videos.
Looking forward to the room mic video! I'm a high school student who is the sound head for our productions, and the choir director and I want to live stream the choir shows on top of recording them. As far as room mics go, I'm going to look into using some PZM's, omnis, or our AKG 414's. Thanks for the video.
Your videos have helped us a lot, thank you!!
Cannot thank you enough for making this channel. It has helped me so much!
Hey Brother Stephen you are very fantastic am Pastor with a 50 members congregations and we have been working on our live stream for our Choirs and our preaching for the good voice vocal mixer for our Facebook live stream but I was listening to your lecture at UA-cam about the audio good sing control thank you for your great wisdom, God bless you brother.
Wow!!! Such wonderful worship!
This is such a great tutorial! Thank you!
Your video has provided a lot information that was lacking in our live feed mix. I will certainly be implementing your ideas now. I also clicked on that bell for more videos. God bless!
Glad you found it useful!
I have learned so much from you! Thank you so much! You are an awesome teacher!
Thanks Mate - this has been very helpful specially right now! God bless you
This was very good in that I am just getting into the audio portion of live-streaming. Until I get this understood I will use the house sound. I will invest in the items you mentioned. Thanks
Thanks for all the help on the private messages! God Bless you 🙌🏽🙏🏽
Thanks for this. So far we are using one laptop for our sound and audio at our small church :) as we research on how to improve on our output. We'll get there!
Great information! Thanks again for another helpful video.
Great information! Thank you. I need the line adapters NOW!!
this videos are pure gold! subscribed!
Amazing presentation love the video man
Thank You sooooo, much brother! Really need it, this information!
Great video helped us much in our new setup
This video is gold.
Best video and tutorial ever! Life saver
Really helpful advice. Thanks!
THIS IS SO TIMELY AND HELPFUL, I've subbed to your channel. Thank you, I understand *so* much more about live stream audio. We're gonna attempt to live stream once we're able to meet again in our church building after weeks of streaming from my house (our church doesn't have wifi). I'm really grateful to people like you who make the process so clear & simple to understand.
Great and brilliant content
Great video 👍
What a blessing. Thanks!
i am so impressed .. Good Job
Great video, thanks.
Hello, super great video and very helpful of what our church would like to do in the future. We currently have a Yamaha TF 5 digital mixer and was wanting to either get a separate small mixer just for the live stream as you suggested or if possible connecting the mixer to a computer with a DAW. But there's not a lot of great videos that talk about how to work a DAW. Maybe you can make a video on that in the future, as your videos are very straightforward and easier to understand than others. Thank you and keep up the great work!
Start with these: 1: ua-cam.com/video/uHd9Y5oQVuk/v-deo.html, 2: ua-cam.com/video/LiG03MiX7_I/v-deo.html 3: ua-cam.com/video/rOSAymbwsCY/v-deo.html 4: ua-cam.com/video/7YJsR5ty6D8/v-deo.html Let me know if there is something specific about mixing in a DAW that you are looking for?
Thank you. Very clear. Looking forward to the room mic video.
Waiting for this video to. Would be know how you mix the room mics for livestream and also for in ears mix...
A great help! Thanks!
Yes!!!! Great video!!!!
Great video! Tks and God bless u.
Really helpful... Thx
Appreciate all your experience sharing with us. We are just starting out live-streaming we have pretty good quality on Facebook but our audio seems to be off. Very distorted through the preaching mic. It ok sound but definitely needs some help. I watched most of your videos on audio. But any suggestions I would appreciate it.
God bless you brother Thank you
Good job! I was just explaining this same concept to a fellow church a couple of days ago. I'm going to send the guy this video. They are still using an analog mixer. I could imagine someone who isn't familiar with digital consoles could be really confused by this. Do you think you could make a follow-up video explaining the same process on an analog board?
FYI: Your Aux output sounds like the L and R are out of phase. Toward the end, it is corrected.
thank you so much for the video. I will be happy if you could help explain how to connect the xlr cables from the mixer through the hum eliminator. It was not so clear which cable went where. My church purchased the QU 32 and i want to help improve on the sound.
Thx for vid we was having same issue with buzz
Good content. At my church we started improving our Livestream last year. First problem is low bandwidth internet connection. Should be resolved soon. The other two is dry vocals getting streamed and no AR Mics. Should resolve this soon. Not sure what you think about this been using subgroup 3&4 instead of a post fader aux send for Livestream. Drums and piano only assigned to sub 3&4. Will do the same with AR Mics.
Thank you very much!
Very good
Thank you!!! God bless
Thank you!
Awesome God bless you
Thank you very much. Thanjs
Nice job man! Can I do same prosses in android phone instead of camera?
Thanks for this concise, informational video. Could you elaborate on how you got Aux output to be in Stereo, that too, with reverb effects? We're looking to get the sound of the keyboard in Stereo and also pan some vocalists with reverb and echo effects, but we're unable to do so in our Aux mix using the Soundcraft UI24r, a fairly advanced mixer. So I think this is something to do with the concept rather than the equipment.
The Qu has stereo aux sends, but essentially the same thing can be accomplished by using 2 aux outputs, and varying the volume to one or the other to pan between them.
Great video! Do you know of any software that can be used to remotely control the mixer on PC?
hello, my church is now trying to set up live streaming and I have been nominated to figure it out, and so far your videos are being a big help but I would like to know if the R800 works with phantom power or not, if there is a way to get it to, how? thanks.
Hey thank you
Thanks
Do you recomend using a stereo Direct Box instead, to ground and adapt sound level?
Hello Steven, thanks for one more teaching, greetings from Angola .. But do you like to know or why do dozens or main volume of Aux for the live stream very low?
i have a yamaha TF5 and yet i want to leave a very stable volume. How can I do it?
Great video, thanks!
"Only" one thing: from 5:39 you have a serious Phase issue! In Mono sum there are many phase cancellation on it!
Yes, I'm aware. Going to be doing a new series on audio for live streaming eventually.
Thank you for this information.
My question is on the cable number 1. Where can I buy one that can be longer than 6 feet. Or is there anyway to extend it.
Thank you
Awesome
Now you have me thinking.
1. Can you adjust the levels separately for you aux sends vs the house sends? Meaning your low, medium and high pass filters plus other adjustments to the inputs. We have house mics but there are kids in the back those mics pick up and ruins the video. Also what do you use or how do you add lyrics to the bottom of the screen for those watching. Thank you for your answers. We have the 32 port version of this board.
That was really informative. I have a situation in my livestream where I'm using a standard Mike trying to pick up quality sound bad idea. Getting good audio from a channel off my mixer is challenging because mixer is in the sanctuary. Can't move it do you have any suggestions on how to get a standard good mix? Good headphones?
You can try using some isolation headphones like these: amzn.to/2D6v7Fs Then use the recording each week to inform your decisions going forward. Evaluate how much low end you had, room mic volume, etc and make adjustments knowing what you heard in the headphones and what it actually end up sounding like on the recording to inform each other and help get a better mix.
i have the exact same mixer at our church. do i need to fiddle with any settings to output into ie your 9/10s internally, like direct them to the 'mixer' or can i just plug them in and change it while only pressing the mixer button on the bottom right and voila it works?
Your videos are very helpful! I'm still new to all of this- so If we don't need a hum eliminator, would we just plug the shure A15LA into the mixer which is then plugged into the dual female XLR cable, then into the camera?
michellevideos Yes!
Can we this set up in Panasonic V785 Handycam ?
Hi sir, could you please explain how video camera is connected to laptop. will the usb cable connected between cam link device and laptop takes care of audio as well as video at the same time. or do we have to do separate connection for audio.
Hi... tks for your work on this... mainly in this times where the church will be dependent of streaming... it has been difficult to find this AJA utap hdmi capture... would you have another good option?
If you are on PC, the legato HD60s works fine amzn.to/3epSH0a
really useful! if we run the camera off a battery, would we still need the hum eliminator?
No, only if both devices are connected to AC power.
Hi you have a awe some set up with qu -16 i have same unit but my problem my mix out only 1-, 7-8, and 9 are only working the others not. Do you have preference settings.? Thank you in advanve
hey wanna ask..if im just using a smart phone as camera for live stream,where or how to connect it to the main mixer.
Thank you for this video. A question: if you have multiple cameras, do you need a line adapter and hum eliminator for each audio going to camera? or there is another way? Thank you
If your audio is coming from a mixer, you just need to set that up for the one camera that is going to be bringing your audio in to the video system.
Can we use Di box substitute to Hum eliminator?
Could you help how I can do it?
I want to produce amateur mp4 videos wihout depend on computer. I want to do it through a camera only. I d like to buy a a canon or other. Can you recommend any model able to record myself playing guitar on my sofa and also record the guitar signal coming from Aux Out my guitar processor?
The issue here is. My headphone use Aux Out of my processor too. I cannot connect both. p2 + headphone . I need a camera with headphone out to listen what is coming from Aux in of camera. Thanks
Hi Ballast. Fantastic video very easy and straight forward to follow, question my Church has the GL 4000 desk, i use 9 and 10 Aux output to send the audio to a ipad which does not allow me to send to much as it hits peak and when listening to the stream the sound is very low.
Can you help me to a way i can get a better and louder sound.
Thank you
Compression is the solution to achieve louder average levels. Unfortunately for it to sound decent it's best to apply compression at several levels (not just one on the mix bus) and that will be hard to do with an analog desk. Do you have any compressors available for you to put on inserts?
@@BallastMedia Hi Steve.
First thanks very much for replying and also your advice.
The Gl4000 has sends and returns instead of the single insert.
We has two Personus ACP 88 compressors and I use one to compressors the Lead vocals and the bvs and the other one is on the drums, but this is for the house mix and not the stream.
Could I go from aux 9and 10 into the BSS 966 Eq and then to the compressors and out for the compressors to the Ipad? Would that work.
Thank you very much and blessings on you and your ministry. IJMN 🙏
do you go from your mixer main outs or aux outs? Is there an impedance problem with using the main outs?
10/10
Hello Sir! Thank you for your contribution to make life easy. I would like to help my church in doing livestreaming, but i prefer audio wireless transmission from mixer to camera, or to my computer (through OBS studio). Is there a way ?
Again thank you for sharing, God bless you!
You can try using this (amzn.to/364k5NF) and this (amzn.to/3mRRZMy to transmit audio wirelessly.
Thank you Ballast Media 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾 How we’re you able to take multiple mics and mix it down to a stereo pair ??
In this video I'm using a set of AUX outputs from the mixer. The aux send controls of the channels become the mix for that output.
That music - I got more into than the video😂
Hi Steve, been watching your videos from way back, I've probably watched all of your videos and it helped me in setting up my church's Livestream.
My setup
1) NDI HX Camera on the iPad (connects via WiFi), previously used an omnidirectional mic connected to the iPad.
2) OBS PC with NDI(connected via LAN)
Last week we decided to pick Audio from the FOH Mixer into OBS and Dutch the audio coming from the iPad, there was sync issues, I tried to offset the sync using audio delay but we had situation where it synced perfectly and later got out of sync. I concluded the NDI HX connection over the WiFi is the culprit, so now I've decided to connect via LAN.
My concern now is, we are planning on adding a second iPad for audience view, how do I manage the audio? If we sync audio for the main camera, do we have to sync audio for the secondary camera? Considering that the audio source (FOH Mixer audio) is essentially the same in OBS.
Yes, you need to delay each input to your slowest source. If something is in sync and then gets out of sync, that's usually due to buffering. The computer wasn't able to keep up for some reason and had to buffer.
Hello. Thanks for all the videos. I'm still having some issues with the way the live stream sounds. We are using the single camera method with the canon and the U-tap. I am also using the hum eliminator and the line adaptor. However, our live streams still give off some humming sounds. What do you think it might be? and how do you recommend we resolve this?
We use a Behringer XAir mixer, and all of our instruments are connected directly to the mixer. Do you think that could be the problem? I saw a video where you had amps in some other room, and microphones on those amps. Why do you do that? Let me know, thanks.
Any chance you have a video posted somewhere? Can you go to my facebook page and send me a message there with a link? facebook.com/stephenballastmedia
Thanks for video. How would you suggest live streaming church service from QU-24 to iphone or ipad for Facebook Live? Should I utilize usb output on mixer to device or should I use an analog output through a mix bus with xlr to 1/4" or 1/4" to 1/4"? I have direct boxes to reduce to mic level or I can purchase equipment used in your video. I realize I will have to setup usb routing if you recommend usb route. My question is not about how to set mix bus as mirrored main or independent as you have covered that very well but as a hardware question. The distance from mixer to ipad/iphone is 20 to 30 ft. Thanks
I don't think you'll be able to run USB from the QU to an iPhone or iPad because it requires a specific driver from A&H. (I may be wrong, have you tried connecting the USB to your iPad to see if the audio device shows up?) You'll most likely need to go analog and use an analog audio interface in to the iDevice. If you can find one that takes line level all the better, I've connected a generic Lexicon audio device to an iPad and it worked.
Help please! I have a Panasonic an AG-HVX200 and a couple of more newer small Sony camcorders. I am working in stream labs and I have been able to establish all the cameras in the feed with video and audio but I am having a lag issue. I am using my Presonus 16.4.2 AI Along with a Yamaha MG 16 XU, the latter one being our direct streaming soundboard as the pre-cylinders does not have HDMI or USB outs. We are a six piece band and we are looking to of course live stream but also to improve on the quality of our work. Our biggest issue is that we are having a lag that we can’t seem to offset even following the general UA-cam tutorials that claim to be able to fix it but have not in our case. So if you could give us any pointers on how to fix the lag issue and also how we might be able to better incorporate our personas board. We are using a Razer Ripsaw and a cheap HDMI along with a digital conversion unit to get the Panasonic feed into a digital format. So lagging is our biggest issue. We input our audio into the direct inns on cameras Which is then running to stream labs. Nothing we have done seems to help and I really did think that running it straight in the camera where it would join with the video and give us something closer to reality, but that has not happened! Any help you could give would be greatly appreciated! Thanks for your time
Great videos! I am mixing for a small church that has one house board (Behringer x32). I am running my social media feed out of a dedicated mix bus aux out to a Roland V-1HD video mixer and then out to AverCaster HD. Duet Plus. I am not getting the volume I need on my pastor’s mic over social media. I am running it post fader and have to max out my aux send on his mic to the bus feed. All my music feeds have plenty of volume it’s just his mic that is too low. Thanks for any advice!
Couple things to try. Bring your music mix down a bit, and turn your whole aux master up. Maxing out his aux send it's really a problem if you need to. Also, you can try duplicating his channel, one for house and one for video mix, then turn up the gain on the channel used for the video mix.
Ebtech HE-2 Hum Eliminator seem not recommending passing Mic Level signals thru it...
Hi Steven! Been really enjoying your videos! What’s your suggestion when you are forced to be far away from the mixer and have the ATEM mini eighth inch input? I know there are some issues when you start running longer cables. Thanks!
What distance are you talking? To run audio long distances you want to run balanced, so probably the simplest solution would be to run balanced from your mixer and then convert from balanced to unbalanced for the connection to the Mini. If it's a really crazy distance, or through multiple rooms, etc then you could go dante over a network. Use this to ingest audio (amzn.to/3nu8LT0) and this to output to your Mini (amzn.to/2I2GrXu)
@@BallastMedia Thanks for the reply! Yes, we were thinking of a longer connection that could potentially stretch 50 ft or so. Thank you for the suggestion, we'll have to look into Dante as a possible solution for audio. Thank you again for your extremely helpful videos!
I'm confused, maybe you can help me? I have a Radial J Iso that I'm trying to use to connect a camera to mixer and I can't figure out where to plug the XLR and 1/4 inch and what adapter is needed. I'm recording video from a brand new iPad. I know I need to get an 1/8 but with the Radial J ISO I don't know if it goes in the input or output. Any help would be appreciated!
how to use canon m50 for live streaming with stereo audio input?
We running livestream mix out an Aux. We have one XLR and need to connect that one XLR to ATEM Mini Pro. I'm seeing options for dual female XLR to stereo 1/8". How do we do single XLR to stereo 1/8"?
Right now we are running the aux from the board into a focusrite Scarlett and then that headphone into the ATEM Mini Pro. That seems to be adding an extra control/step.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Get the dual XLR to stereo 1/8" cable. Just connect one XLR, then in the Atem Control Software go to the settings and on the audio tab there is a setting to "split" the audio on the mic inputs. What this does is change the input from being a stereo left/right with one control, to being two mono inputs that are each routed to the stereo output. So you'll get your one channel of audio routed to the stereo output.
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Hi! Ballast Media, you are a wealth of knowledge and I thank you for your efforts. That said here is a question based on this video. When you turn the reverb up on 9 and 10 for the vocals is that not the same reverb that you would use for the LR mix? I guess what I'm asking is, is it possible to have different reverb levels on the same channel for the different aux?
Kind of depends on the capability of your board, but in this case the reverb level is just what is going to 9/10. I could use a different effects unit for reverb in the house.
@@BallastMedia I'm running the QU16 for the house and the live stream. As it is now the reverb is the same on every Aux as far as I know. I'm going to look into it some more. This video was very helpful. I think the long term solution for my church is going to look something like running the live stream through a DAW to get a better sound. Right now the audio quality is not great but it is working. Baby steps :)
@@arsenaultmusic1984 There qu16 has 4 effect units. Just use one for house and another for stream. Then only turn up the return of each effect unit in the mix you want it to go to.
Thank you for your videos, they are so helpful. My church is putting together a live stream set up but I am slightly confused. As of right now, we are just live streaming the sermon, no music. We are planning to do a one camera set up connected to a laptop. For that setup regarding the audio, would you suggest using the Behringer audio interface from the soundboard into the computer or using the set up you mentioned in this video? Also, would you suggest investing in a streaming software like VMix or just using OBS? Thank you so much!
Any kind of audio interface will have better sound then a cheap camera's preamps, so if your mixer has an audio interface, or you already have an audio interface, use that. You'll just have to do a little work in the streaming software to sync your audio and video, but it's not that hard and it's a one time thing. If all you need to do is stream, then OBS is fine, I would use that until you figure out something you can't do, and vMix can. Just be sure you have a decent computer, where most people get frustrated the first time with OBS is trying to do something beyond what their computer is capable of.
@@BallastMedia Thank you so much! I so appreciate your advice!
Hello again! I have my livestreaming set up with 2 PCs, the AJA U-Tap (which is amazing!), and everything runs and streams at 1080p 60fps.
My next step is to record my livestreams locally without using up CPU power on my streaming PC. I know I can split the HDMI output from my gaming PC into an external recorder (like an Atomos Shogun), but I want to capture my OBS overlays as well.
Do you think that having the livestreaming preview on OBS set to full screen on an HDMI output into an Atomos Shogun would be a viable solution?
Watch my video on optimizing OBS. In there I show you how you can stream AND record in OBS, while offloading one or the other encoding process to your video card. You'll need a fairly recent NVIDIA card to do it well. ua-cam.com/video/yTt5IxFWaEM/v-deo.html