@@TSFAHTPS So, are you using Amplitube and ToneX apps that come with the Tonex Pedal or did you buy the apps separately and use them only with other audio interfaces (in this case "Audient iD44 - i don't know what that is, must look it up)? It's all terribly confusing at times.
I didn't hear you saying anything about the how to set input gain, before Tonex and Amplitube. IK Multimedia has big issues with the input gain for different models. It should be a +12dB boost for Tonex and more or less for Amplitube depending on the models. Just to make them sounding like the real amps for same amount of gain.
That would absolutely make a huge difference!! I didn’t want to get into it in this video as it’s a long enough video as it is…but yeah changing mics and mic placement makes a huge difference
It seems clear to me here that there is a major major difference in the stereo width of the two presets. Its not presence youre pickin up on, its forwardness, literal spatial direction. The amplitube was spread across multiple mics and in my studio it sounds left leaning in the stereo field. The tone X is smack dab mono and super focused.
How come the Models (Amplitube) sound more like the real deal to me than the ToneX Models that are actual Captures of the actual Amps, right? But Amplitube sounds way more like the real Amps when i used to play them Live.
The amplitube sounded awesome, but every time you switched to tonex it was just more convincing to me. It sounded closer ever time, but then again you had the reverb on the amplitube and not om tonex
Interesting. I too spend endless hours comparing Tonex and AmpliTube and Tonex within AmpliTube. I spent a lot on 3rd party TONEX captures and although they sound good I may well sell them and the TONEX: AmpliTube sounds sufficiently good to me and is so mega-tweakable (and... tons of pre and post-effects, built in looper, 8 track recorder, easy midi control etc etc).
My only wish for these collections is that IK Multimedia starts doing more DI captures. I love having the flexibility of swapping cabs and I find that I tend to get weird results if I do that with anything that's not a DI capture. I was chatting with someone at Amalgam and they said that after doing ToneX captures for a little over a year now, they're of the opinion that the DI captures sound more authentic. To my ear/taste, they do tend to sound slightly better. This collection sounds pretty great, regardless. I really like the "Luke Boogie" capture; sounds great with my Strat single coil neck pickup. I plan on getting a ToneX one for live performance as I think that's where the captures really shine; that's about as far as I'm willing to go for using digital live at the moment ;)
Do you mean like just the amp without the cab? Because a DI is a direct input, meaning your guitar without amplification at all. If you're talking just the capture of the amp I can say that every Mesa Boogie amp capture in the ToneX Mesa Boogie reference amp pack contains the amp with and without a cab so you can use your own IR.
@@fivefingerfullprice3403 Every amp in the collection has some DI captures, yes, but not every single full capture/setting (amp and cab) has an equivalent DI capture.
To me it’s really more interesting what the software sounds like with the cab sounds that come with it…in the end if you use different IR loaders and apply EQ you can make all of them sound the same
@@TSFAHTPS it was more when you are comparing them and saying the kids sound different here and there when really a good way how to test the amp models is to use the same speaker/mic as they are a huge part of the tone. So something like a static ir or the built in cab sim in amplitube would do best in comparing the amps. Using 2 completely different signals chains essentially is obviously never going to get you close.
That’s kinda how I felt…ToneX almost had a 3 dimensional quality to it…and more weight/body…but I was really surprised about how good AmpliTube sounded…really impressed
It has a different sound because you should turn off the mic/cabinet thing from amplitube. Tonex replicates the sound of the amp you ear. Amplitube has an extra step which is adding microphones and then record them and you hear what the recorded mic is. Different thing :/
ToneX sounds more like a real amp and Amplitude sounds congested. I personally never liked Amplitude for that reason. It just sounds muddy and not enough clarity. I think the ToneX has is a better system.
Os dois são ótimos timbres mas como você disse parece que estão numa frequência de médios diferentes e pra resolver isso , teria de colocar um equalizador parametrico pós amplificador, aumentar o ganho e a curva de medio ao máximo é fazer uma varredura no knob de médio pra encontrar a frequência.
Would be interested to see the direct captures in AmpliTube using the same cab, to see how much of an impact is from the cab!
Very nice tones.
1:20 What is your "interface"?????
@@coolmacatrain9434 Audient iD44
@@TSFAHTPS So, are you using Amplitube and ToneX apps that come with the Tonex Pedal or did you buy the apps separately and use them only with other audio interfaces (in this case "Audient iD44 - i don't know what that is, must look it up)?
It's all terribly confusing at times.
I didn't hear you saying anything about the how to set input gain, before Tonex and Amplitube. IK Multimedia has big issues with the input gain for different models.
It should be a +12dB boost for Tonex and more or less for Amplitube depending on the models. Just to make them sounding like the real amps for same amount of gain.
They both sound incredible. Amplitudes Mesa Triple Crown is the best amp I have ever played or heard. Digital or Real.
These captures are pretty special! Never had the chance to try a real one…one day!!
I wonder if changing the mic placement might be the key.
That would absolutely make a huge difference!! I didn’t want to get into it in this video as it’s a long enough video as it is…but yeah changing mics and mic placement makes a huge difference
It seems clear to me here that there is a major major difference in the stereo width of the two presets. Its not presence youre pickin up on, its forwardness, literal spatial direction. The amplitube was spread across multiple mics and in my studio it sounds left leaning in the stereo field. The tone X is smack dab mono and super focused.
How come the Models (Amplitube) sound more like the real deal to me than the ToneX Models that are actual Captures of the actual Amps, right? But Amplitube sounds way more like the real Amps when i used to play them Live.
Yeah I was really quite surprised how good Amplitube sounded…they both sound great in my opinion
The amplitube sounded awesome, but every time you switched to tonex it was just more convincing to me. It sounded closer ever time, but then again you had the reverb on the amplitube and not om tonex
Amplitube sound awesome but the Tonex is more precise and "in your face" :)
Interesting. I too spend endless hours comparing Tonex and AmpliTube and Tonex within AmpliTube. I spent a lot on 3rd party TONEX captures and although they sound good I may well sell them and the TONEX: AmpliTube sounds sufficiently good to me and is so mega-tweakable (and... tons of pre and post-effects, built in looper, 8 track recorder, easy midi control etc etc).
You can put the tone X as a live unit though ...
@@colinparks619 True, but my performing days are over....
My only wish for these collections is that IK Multimedia starts doing more DI captures. I love having the flexibility of swapping cabs and I find that I tend to get weird results if I do that with anything that's not a DI capture. I was chatting with someone at Amalgam and they said that after doing ToneX captures for a little over a year now, they're of the opinion that the DI captures sound more authentic. To my ear/taste, they do tend to sound slightly better.
This collection sounds pretty great, regardless. I really like the "Luke Boogie" capture; sounds great with my Strat single coil neck pickup. I plan on getting a ToneX one for live performance as I think that's where the captures really shine; that's about as far as I'm willing to go for using digital live at the moment ;)
Do you mean like just the amp without the cab? Because a DI is a direct input, meaning your guitar without amplification at all. If you're talking just the capture of the amp I can say that every Mesa Boogie amp capture in the ToneX Mesa Boogie reference amp pack contains the amp with and without a cab so you can use your own IR.
@@fivefingerfullprice3403 Every amp in the collection has some DI captures, yes, but not every single full capture/setting (amp and cab) has an equivalent DI capture.
@@jeremyroberthickey Ok I think understand what you're talking about.
Please for the love of god compare using the same cab and using the cabless version of the tonex
To me it’s really more interesting what the software sounds like with the cab sounds that come with it…in the end if you use different IR loaders and apply EQ you can make all of them sound the same
@@TSFAHTPS it was more when you are comparing them and saying the kids sound different here and there when really a good way how to test the amp models is to use the same speaker/mic as they are a huge part of the tone. So something like a static ir or the built in cab sim in amplitube would do best in comparing the amps. Using 2 completely different signals chains essentially is obviously never going to get you close.
Tonex has much more body, like a real amp. Amplitube sounds great but lacks that body in the lower mids and mids IME.
That’s kinda how I felt…ToneX almost had a 3 dimensional quality to it…and more weight/body…but I was really surprised about how good AmpliTube sounded…really impressed
just settings in mid side are not equal thats it. amplitube more stereo in your test - try it in headphones .
It has a different sound because you should turn off the mic/cabinet thing from amplitube. Tonex replicates the sound of the amp you ear. Amplitube has an extra step which is adding microphones and then record them and you hear what the recorded mic is. Different thing :/
Dude what 😂 both of them are going through cab Sims have you ever actually heard an amp modeller without a cab? It sounds awful
ToneX sounds more like a real amp and Amplitude sounds congested. I personally never liked Amplitude for that reason. It just sounds muddy and not enough clarity.
I think the ToneX has is a better system.
Tonex are I think just direct ready made patches by other person...AT5 gives us to be more creative 🎉🎉😊😊
you can be as creative as you want with Tonex too.
@@roberteismann1929 how ? I guess knobs doesn't respond much and the various fx/post fx pedals and models also not there as in AT5...
Os dois são ótimos timbres mas como você disse parece que estão numa frequência de médios diferentes e pra resolver isso , teria de colocar um equalizador parametrico pós amplificador, aumentar o ganho e a curva de medio ao máximo é fazer uma varredura no knob de médio pra encontrar a frequência.