The sarcasm Hamill brings to the character is perfection. I read this near the end of my enlistment in the Corps and I read this character in my mind as a salty vet that pointed out the stupidity of the brass in charge. The whole book read like it could have actually been a real event. Max Brooks wrote a well crafted piece of art. Brad Pitt and hollywood fucked it up. An animated movie of this would be awesome.
"The sky was red that day. All the smoke, the crap that'd been filling the air all summer, it put everything in this amber red light. Like lookin' at the world through hell-colored glasses. That's how I first saw Yonkers..."
Hamill is so brilliant at portraying someone telling a story that he already knows the terrible ending to, so bitter, like he's been waiting to deliver this rant his entire rant.
@@elitemook4234 It doesn’t matter what damage you do to the body of World war Z zombies unless you hit the brain. For some reason his zombies don’t seem to suffer from concussive blasts.
@@cryamistellimek9184 Brooks comes from the school of Romero style zombies which are like slow walking tanks. It’s a refreshing return considering modern zombies are now super fast
Jesus Christ... This is SOOOO accurate! I can totally see the Army doing this dumb shit, lol! Keep in mind, this is the same Army that spends 2 hours clearing marble sized rocks from a vehicle line on rocky concrete with 30 people.
@@indamicks I swear, ask any soldier what his day to day life was like on Deployment and they'll tell you at least 50% of it was bullshit fuck fuck games. Shit squad, smoke sessions, Latrine guard, inspections, cleaning everything with anything, etc.
I gotta give Brooks credit; he did his homework for this. The one and only thing he got wrong is that the Army killed Land Warrior back in like 2012 or something, and this was written before that happened if I'm not mistaken.
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He got alot of stuff wrong, even his own rules. He says zombies are immune to overpreasure and that is why military munitions didn't work here, but later in the book it shows a bunch of zeds die when a cars gas tank goes up. He also doesn't seem to know that steel rain would have, as the name suggests, rained down on the zombies heads.
@@elitemook4234 Alright, two things. Gas tanks blowing up results in not just an explosion, but also a fireball. Fire works on zombies. Secondly, they make it pretty clear that the steel rain did kill a large amount of zombies, just not enough. Because while fatal head wounds can happen from shrapnel, it's not like it's a guaranteed kill on every zombie in the blast zone since shrapnel is random.
Luke Skywalker has been in those harsh days where he has had to conquer the most fierce command posts, so... I know what he’s talking about regarding this command post
Honestly I’m really surprised they dug trenches like I get it’s for press but really trenches? Zeke will literally just pool ontop of any soldier unfortunate enough to be in one. If you are going to try and use trenches to fight zombies then put them up front and fill it with plastic explosives or thermite or even both. If they dug trenches up front they could have at the very least used the excess terrain that was dug up to build large mounds almost like hills and surrounded with sand bags or even just walls(assuming they were using excavators I pray those men weren’t told to pull out shovels for this bs) that way they could have at least some high ground and not get surrounded by zack so easily.
Hell, just put the trenches between you and Zeke and fill it with flammable shit. Then when Zeke gets close set it on fire, let Zeke do the body cleanup for you!
I've got a friend who joined the marines because he was homeless at the time. He did one stint, took the GI bill, got himself a masters in city planning and never looked back. He told me the most accurate way to describe military life is that quote from Generation Kill. "You know what happens when you get out of the Marine corps? You get your brains back."
The whole setup of Yonkers was based around arty and airpower doing the actual killing while the tanks and soldiers looked cool for the cameras. This is why the tanks were given sabot rounds, why the soldiers were given impractical MOPP4 biohazard suits and were not supplied with a convoy of ammo trucks, and it is why they were all stood in trenches in front of the hoard like idiots instead of being placed on the roofs of the surrounding buildings or engaging in hit and run tactics- they weren't expected to have to do anything. And if not for the author suddenly making the zombies magically immune to shrapnel and explosions, even though zombies in that same book died when a car’s gas tank went up, they wouldn’t have needed to do anything but look cool for the camera. Yonkers comes down to contrivance and the author pulling rules out of his ass when it suited him to fulfil a predetermined conclusion. He needed the military to lose Yonkers or else the book would have ended so he gave them the idiot ball and hand waved basic logic and the lore that he himself established on how his zombies were supposed to work- (modern military munitions would not be less effective than a car’s gas tank exploding) so that the guys on the ground would be ‘shock and awed’ by the zombies, panic and run away. That’s all there is too it.
They weren't "Immune" to shrapnel, it's even said "it's not like Zack skipped through the barrage unscathed". The issue is that Shrapnel depends on either killing with a body hit or wounding with a limb hit. Neither work on Zack. If they have an intact brain, and some way to drag themselves, they will keep coming. Unless you get a lucky shot on the head, that Shrapnel ain't doing shit. Even the gas tanks weren't that much more effective, only reason they were was a more potent explosion, and more shrapnel. If anything it made Zack more dangerous, since it basically turned a bunch of them into "living" landmines. Plus, the biggest reason for the route, was that thanks to Land Warrior, the soldiers could see all 8 million Zeds, streaking in one long line from Yonkers all the way to Times Square. They didn't think they could kill that many, especially when word starting circling around, again thanks to Land Warrior, that the Zeds weren't dying to Headshots (that was wrong, but panick makes you a little stupid). So, everyone started running, and it got worse when thanks, again, to Land Warrior, everyone could see one of their guys get brutally killed in full detail from some Zeds that were behind the lines by accident
@@ntfoperative9432 Describing a contrivance straight doesn’t stop it being a contrivance. Case and point, land warrior does not work the way it did in the book. The entire set up was contrived to make the military loose because if they'd won the book would end. At the end of the day Zombies are nothing more than humans which lack everything that makes humans even remotely hard to kill. And the author (and you) really don't appreciate what modern munitions do to a human body.
@@elitemook4234 and you missed the point. The zombies were never a threat, they were never meant to be a threat. The threat was human nature. At Yonkers, from the soldiers perspective, the guns weren't doing shit, because even though they probably still did kill hundreds of Zeds, there were millions more waiting to take their place. Plus it's explained, pretty thoroughly, why the munitions weren't as effective as usual. One, in 2006, when the book is set, the main tactic when using artillery was not destruction, it was shock and awe; scare your enemies, make them lose the will to fight; zed don't get scared, doesn't get shock and awed. Two, the balloon effect wasn't nearly as effective because the Zeds blood was basically gel at this point, so it negated the shockwave, something that happens in real life. Three, sudden nerve trauma, "God flicking your life switch" was nearly as effective because it depends on the shockwave shutting down your organs, mainly your heart; Zed don't need his heart, only his brain, meaning he isn't nearly as affected by SNT. Four, and the one you've been waiting for, shrapnel. Shrapnel, by its very nature, is unpredictable; normally that's not an issue, because humans are very fragile beings, put enough holes in them and they die; Zed's different, they only need their brain, that's it, so unless you get lucky and some shrapnel pierces the Cranial cavity, Zacks not going down
They should of made this a mini-series with the exact same story/reporter narrative. It would of been dope.. especially yonkers as maybe a two part season ender Brad Pitt ruined it
The audio book has actors and actresses (Mark Hamill, Alfred Molina, Martin Scorsese) playing the characters being interviewed while Max Brooks plays himself.
Not every Military leader had that information it was top secret no one but the President and the Joint Chief probably knew actually what the threat was and at the time is was getting out of control even then.
Ah, Mark Hamill. Always a good choice.
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The sarcasm Hamill brings to the character is perfection. I read this near the end of my enlistment in the Corps and I read this character in my mind as a salty vet that pointed out the stupidity of the brass in charge.
The whole book read like it could have actually been a real event. Max Brooks wrote a well crafted piece of art. Brad Pitt and hollywood fucked it up.
An animated movie of this would be awesome.
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I think a tv series would be more appropriate, it would allow each interview to be throughly explored. Imagine one interview per each episode.
Tv show that is like interviews with recreations like those old tv shows
I’m curious, why do you blame Brad Pitt? He didn’t write the movie.
@@AQS521 i thought he did
"The sky was red that day. All the smoke, the crap that'd been filling the air all summer, it put everything in this amber red light. Like lookin' at the world through hell-colored glasses. That's how I first saw Yonkers..."
I live in the sf bay area. Back in 2020 that's exactly how it looked for a week or so it was wild. (Wildfires)
Hamill is so brilliant at portraying someone telling a story that he already knows the terrible ending to, so bitter, like he's been waiting to deliver this rant his entire rant.
In a nutshell, Yonkers ended up as the biggest screw-up in U.S history.
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The author would have you believe that a car's gas tank exploding is more damaging to the human body than military grade munitions.
@@elitemook4234 It doesn’t matter what damage you do to the body of World war Z zombies unless you hit the brain. For some reason his zombies don’t seem to suffer from concussive blasts.
@@cryamistellimek9184 Brooks comes from the school of Romero style zombies which are like slow walking tanks. It’s a refreshing return considering modern zombies are now super fast
@@alexanderthegreat1270 and are somewhat alive human's
The only battle left out of the book was Aztec pyramids I wish max put it in
how cool wold that be . we need to ask Netflix
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Whas that mentioned somewhere in the book?
@@chadm1937 yeah, in the chapter about the role of Castles during the war - but it was a brief mention
Jesus Christ... This is SOOOO accurate! I can totally see the Army doing this dumb shit, lol! Keep in mind, this is the same Army that spends 2 hours clearing marble sized rocks from a vehicle line on rocky concrete with 30 people.
very true
@@indamicks I swear, ask any soldier what his day to day life was like on Deployment and they'll tell you at least 50% of it was bullshit fuck fuck games. Shit squad, smoke sessions, Latrine guard, inspections, cleaning everything with anything, etc.
As they say "the army is always prepared for the last war"
I gotta give Brooks credit; he did his homework for this. The one and only thing he got wrong is that the Army killed Land Warrior back in like 2012 or something, and this was written before that happened if I'm not mistaken.
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@@indamicks I've read the whole book, I was just making the point that the author did a good job with the information in the chapter.
@@PhoenixT70 yes defo
He got alot of stuff wrong, even his own rules. He says zombies are immune to overpreasure and that is why military munitions didn't work here, but later in the book it shows a bunch of zeds die when a cars gas tank goes up. He also doesn't seem to know that steel rain would have, as the name suggests, rained down on the zombies heads.
@@elitemook4234 Alright, two things. Gas tanks blowing up results in not just an explosion, but also a fireball. Fire works on zombies. Secondly, they make it pretty clear that the steel rain did kill a large amount of zombies, just not enough. Because while fatal head wounds can happen from shrapnel, it's not like it's a guaranteed kill on every zombie in the blast zone since shrapnel is random.
Luke Skywalker has been in those harsh days where he has had to conquer the most fierce command posts, so... I know what he’s talking about regarding this command post
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It should have been a TV show with the interview then showed the episode like band of brothers
We have a saying in the UK "lions led by donkeys."
One of my favorite actors, voicing my favorite part, of one of my favorite books.
Was 2020 just my punishment for getting such a blessing?
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Mark did a great job with this.
If only they'd asked someone from New York... We would have told them "nah bro F*CK the saw mill parkway I don't even like it WITHOUT zombies"
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Love it
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They used artillery with air burst rounds which is completely useless against the undead the US thought the shockwave would've put em down.
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thats of course nonsense.
I never understood the Battle of Yonkers. Just a staggered retreat, take numbers, retreat and start again.
It was all for the press. It was supposed to show the public that the military was in control. But it backfired WAY too much.
Honestly I’m really surprised they dug trenches like I get it’s for press but really trenches? Zeke will literally just pool ontop of any soldier unfortunate enough to be in one. If you are going to try and use trenches to fight zombies then put them up front and fill it with plastic explosives or thermite or even both. If they dug trenches up front they could have at the very least used the excess terrain that was dug up to build large mounds almost like hills and surrounded with sand bags or even just walls(assuming they were using excavators I pray those men weren’t told to pull out shovels for this bs) that way they could have at least some high ground and not get surrounded by zack so easily.
Hell, just put the trenches between you and Zeke and fill it with flammable shit. Then when Zeke gets close set it on fire, let Zeke do the body cleanup for you!
You said it. It was for the press. No practical reason, just to look good
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USAMRIID assigns this book to prospective personnel, to study as a parable of a pandemic. The last few weeks show why.
really I did not know that thanks
how come when i listen to this on audible this chapter and all others with the character todd wanino are voiced by someone other than mark hamill?
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Is it the Complete Edition? There's different versions.
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I see a lot of chaps in various places say the depiction of the top brass is unrealistic, my only suggestion is: Enlist and then tell me that.
exactly
I've got a friend who joined the marines because he was homeless at the time. He did one stint, took the GI bill, got himself a masters in city planning and never looked back. He told me the most accurate way to describe military life is that quote from Generation Kill. "You know what happens when you get out of the Marine corps? You get your brains back."
The whole setup of Yonkers was based around arty and airpower doing the actual killing while the tanks and soldiers looked cool for the cameras. This is why the tanks were given sabot rounds, why the soldiers were given impractical MOPP4 biohazard suits and were not supplied with a convoy of ammo trucks, and it is why they were all stood in trenches in front of the hoard like idiots instead of being placed on the roofs of the surrounding buildings or engaging in hit and run tactics- they weren't expected to have to do anything. And if not for the author suddenly making the zombies magically immune to shrapnel and explosions, even though zombies in that same book died when a car’s gas tank went up, they wouldn’t have needed to do anything but look cool for the camera.
Yonkers comes down to contrivance and the author pulling rules out of his ass when it suited him to fulfil a predetermined conclusion. He needed the military to lose Yonkers or else the book would have ended so he gave them the idiot ball and hand waved basic logic and the lore that he himself established on how his zombies were supposed to work- (modern military munitions would not be less effective than a car’s gas tank exploding) so that the guys on the ground would be ‘shock and awed’ by the zombies, panic and run away. That’s all there is too it.
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They weren't "Immune" to shrapnel, it's even said "it's not like Zack skipped through the barrage unscathed". The issue is that Shrapnel depends on either killing with a body hit or wounding with a limb hit. Neither work on Zack. If they have an intact brain, and some way to drag themselves, they will keep coming. Unless you get a lucky shot on the head, that Shrapnel ain't doing shit. Even the gas tanks weren't that much more effective, only reason they were was a more potent explosion, and more shrapnel. If anything it made Zack more dangerous, since it basically turned a bunch of them into "living" landmines. Plus, the biggest reason for the route, was that thanks to Land Warrior, the soldiers could see all 8 million Zeds, streaking in one long line from Yonkers all the way to Times Square. They didn't think they could kill that many, especially when word starting circling around, again thanks to Land Warrior, that the Zeds weren't dying to Headshots (that was wrong, but panick makes you a little stupid). So, everyone started running, and it got worse when thanks, again, to Land Warrior, everyone could see one of their guys get brutally killed in full detail from some Zeds that were behind the lines by accident
@@ntfoperative9432 Describing a contrivance straight doesn’t stop it being a contrivance. Case and point, land warrior does not work the way it did in the book. The entire set up was contrived to make the military loose because if they'd won the book would end.
At the end of the day Zombies are nothing more than humans which lack everything that makes humans even remotely hard to kill. And the author (and you) really don't appreciate what modern munitions do to a human body.
@@elitemook4234 and you missed the point. The zombies were never a threat, they were never meant to be a threat. The threat was human nature. At Yonkers, from the soldiers perspective, the guns weren't doing shit, because even though they probably still did kill hundreds of Zeds, there were millions more waiting to take their place. Plus it's explained, pretty thoroughly, why the munitions weren't as effective as usual. One, in 2006, when the book is set, the main tactic when using artillery was not destruction, it was shock and awe; scare your enemies, make them lose the will to fight; zed don't get scared, doesn't get shock and awed. Two, the balloon effect wasn't nearly as effective because the Zeds blood was basically gel at this point, so it negated the shockwave, something that happens in real life. Three, sudden nerve trauma, "God flicking your life switch" was nearly as effective because it depends on the shockwave shutting down your organs, mainly your heart; Zed don't need his heart, only his brain, meaning he isn't nearly as affected by SNT. Four, and the one you've been waiting for, shrapnel. Shrapnel, by its very nature, is unpredictable; normally that's not an issue, because humans are very fragile beings, put enough holes in them and they die; Zed's different, they only need their brain, that's it, so unless you get lucky and some shrapnel pierces the Cranial cavity, Zacks not going down
@@ntfoperative9432 Now you're just moving the goal posts.
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They should of made this a mini-series with the exact same story/reporter narrative. It would of been dope.. especially yonkers as maybe a two part season ender
Brad Pitt ruined it
Omg I thought it was mark Hamill
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The hell happen to the original channel with all the others
what channel buddy ?
@@indamicks there was another guy who put all the vids like u it had the great panic and all that jazz his last video was about a marine heli landing
@@boulderman1357 id say they where copy write striked so you tube took them down
@@indamicks HOWWW THATS SO STUPID ITS BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE
@@boulderman1357 if you go to a torrent site you can download the audio book ….but I didn't tell you that :)
Ok the Kevlar you can make a reasonable assumption for. If your shelling close to your lines its a good just incase measure
PLEASE 🙏LET MARK HAMILL NARRIATE THIS PART OF A MULTIPART MINISERIES BECAUSE BRAD PITTS MOVIE DOES NOT DO THE BOOK JUSTICE
facts
Which page is this ?
not sure but its around the time of the great panic .if that helps
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why couldn't they give us a movie close to the book or at least a show?
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I wish they would…
I’m a fuckin walking dead body
How did you get Mark Hamill?
The audio book has actors and actresses (Mark Hamill, Alfred Molina, Martin Scorsese) playing the characters being interviewed while Max Brooks plays himself.
does anyone know where i can download
the whole audiobook?
pirate bay torrent site
@@indamicks the link has no seeds bro.cant download
I've got a copy I pirated if you need a link. I can upload it to something.
Where can I find the whole book with this type of narration.
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how far is this into the book?
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Where's the rest,.. I'm looking for the complete set
youtube took them down im surprised its still up
@@indamicks sucks especially cuase the news on the Chinese Flu is just like the book
I've recently found it. But it's a simpler audiobook. Human voice alright, but not THIS great cast
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what happened to the 8 hour complete book?
you can find it on youtube I just loved this part
@@indamicks shit... Once apon time
@@booker9879 i don't understand buddy ?
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This is the only part of the book I didn't like. At this point the military had far too much intel on how zombies operate for this to feel believable.
Like Mark said, it was all for show. I’m guessing the generals were still thinking they could kill zombies with conventional artillery.
Not every Military leader had that information it was top secret no one but the President and the Joint Chief probably knew actually what the threat was and at the time is was getting out of control even then.
Page 92 in the book
The movie can not camper to the book the movie should have never been made
Todd was right 😮
Put PNB to sleeep
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