ikr...? navigating masterfully all around Sky Harbor Airport and even down University Ave through ASU Tempe (with all the goofy College Kids tumbling off their skateboards and into the crosswalk). 👏
Waymo doesn't operate in all weather conditions. It operates in all conditions you see in LA. Which is... Like two? Arid and dry 95% of the time and rain the other 5%. Not really too impressive.
Ahh okay. When I heard $4300 loss per car I was like that's pretty damn good for a low volume startup! 43 THOUSAND dollar loss on each car is ... not quite as good.
Almost every EV car being sold is NOT,...not a full production vehicle. Only Tesla and BYD are making full production vehicles (200,000 per year). If you buy a Honda Ye, it may be discontinued like the BMW I-3 and the Chevy Bolt.
After watching Motor Trend do a long interview with JD, it seems like Rivian is making the right moves. Lucid is just burning cash and looks like it will crash and burn. Rivian is burning cash, but seems to be truly building a foundation for great success.
Lucid has a near bottomless pit of funds. Compared to the other projects MBS is trying to fund (trying to build mega cities in a middle of a desert), Lucid is comparatively cheap. As long as Middle East is producing oil, Lucid will be funded.
It seems to me police vehicles would benefit the most with EVs. This would boost donut coffee shops' revenue by providing a charging station at their stores; gives the officers more excuse to stop for coffee and donut.
Jokes aside.. cybertruck would be gold as they could catch all cars plus pit and ram them with minimal loss.. whistlindiesel proved it and video of the test crashes
Police vehicles would be a good application of a plug-in-hybrid. Cops don't have time for dounts and coffee,...they are performing a dangerous job while serving their community. 95% of Police Officers are GOOD-GUYS and do their job to keep us safe 👈🏾
Smart move by ford to sell the Explorer hybrid to the police. The police should really go fully electric, but these hybrids will help to reduce cost a lot for those that still think they need ICE vehicle
Tesla and BYD are each producing over a million EVs per year. Rivian and Ford's EV output combined are not a tenth of that per year. I am a Rivian advocate, but for now they are a cash incinerator.
@@vorlon81 Deepal is a subsidiary of Changan, while Honda's JV partners are Dongfeng and GAC. It will be Changan's JV partners such as Mazda who will have rebadged Deepals, such as the new Mazda EZ-6
The future for auto assembly line workers is humanoid robots. Shawn Fain, you won the most recent strike against the big 3 auto companies, but you lost the war. You can’t unionize a robot! You will be in the unemployment line in 5 to 10 years.
6:07 Theft claims may be lower, but what about damage claims from theft attempts? Because these cars have a reputation now, and they'll still get broken into in order to _try_ stealing them. That's the real issue. Learning that _some_ of the cars have been upgraded merely turns it into a game of chance for car thieves.
"We took a regular robot arm that is bolted to the floor that is capable of extremely rapidly and accurately moving sheet metal plates and replaced it with an awkward humanoid robot that can't actually perform this task, costs radically more, but makes people unfamiliar with how robots work think we're an AI company". Could we please stop reporting on the clearly fake bipedal robot stuff? You might as well go back to reporting on NFTs given how real any of this actually is.
Why would anyone use a humanoid robot on an assembly line other than to intimidate workers and unions. Any assembly line robot without perform any humanoid robot
What's even more absurd about Musk's idea is that the maintenance of a floor full of humanoid robots will be done by engineers making 2x or more what the traditional assembly line worker makes not even counting assembly line stoppages due to half-a$$ed output from non-optimized robots. "Why is the door attachment bot trying to attach wheels instead!"
Atlas (of Boston Dynamics/Hyundai Mega Corp fame) says it's going to give all these phony bots the "People's Elbow"... "DO YOU SMELL THE CIRCUITS THAT THE ATLAS IS COOKING...!!!" (best Ai/synthesized Duane Johnson voice)
Robots will replace auto workers. Present day AI is a myth! Robotic technology like self-driving technology is advancing and robots will incrementaly start replacing human workers on the assembly line. Robot workers can easily perform repetitive actions 👈🏾
🤔 I’m wondering why WAYMO’s car is so dated? And then if you had an EV police interceptor, wouldn’t the slightest damage to the cruiser in a pit manoeuvre write off the vehicle?
They only make 57,000 units per year. Of course they lose money at such a small output. Once they get to the point of selling 150,000 per year they will flip the profit story. Hope they make it.
@@danubiosalas4231 yup. It’s pretty intense. You have agility, BD, TRI, Baidu, Hyundai. As someone actively working in the field everyone agrees that the progress Figure has made is nothing short of impressive although their stack is based on BD’s open source research but the talent level there is quite strong and doing tasks untethered and with such dexterity is nothing short of of extraordinary. Just take a look
If you have to upgrade production line after producing only several thousand cars, perhaps you should upgrade your engineers and get some with experience in car manufacturing?
Rivian needs to get some one to stream line their production cost of the will never make money. Amazon will take over and have a van company😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The fun with Rivian is even if they earn money on each one sold they will not be profitable as a company because they spend nearly 4b a year for SG&A and R&D across the year. Meaning even if they sold 60k units it would require a profit of over ... wait for it... $66k per sale.
Hi Elon. Please tell us how many companies have committed to buying flOptimus. Are these companies the same ones that have committed to being FSD licensees?
What is optimus? An industrial robot? Others have used those for decades... Is this the same thing as Musk giving a tour of Freemont's stone-age, run-down factory and pretending that the old (battered, dented) logistics robots they had there were Tesla inventions even though they were probably old ones left from Toyota, the same kind as everyone even in small Mom&Pop businesses have used in warehouses? I remember Tesla having plastic bags and cardboard boxes of parts scattered around, employees using who knows what clothes, jeans etc., and still using pen and paper on the line!!
Tesla and BYD are selling over a million vehicles per year. Tesla and BYD are selling very reliable vehicles. I have never heard a Tesla owner complain about the build quality of their vehicles. I don't like Musk either, but Tesla is without a doubt the only successful AMERICAN EV manufacturer and is THE most successful EV manufacturer in the WORLD 👈🏾
On the EV negative gross margin subject: Read the Elon Musk biographies and look at what Tesla had to do to survive getting the model S to market and improving build quality. Look at the model 3 production hell. Musk was involved and modified dozens & dozens of attributes of the manufacturing line. He noticed a robotic arm installing bolts was moving too slow, and waited at the arm until a technician could be found who knew how to access the control panel and edit the code. The arm went from 20% speed to 70%. Musk also had removed additional unnecessary code that spun the bolt in reverse twice. Elon spent untold hours questioning every requirement, deleting unnecessary parts, optimizing, speeding up and then automating. I question if the leaders at other EV manufacturers are willing to go as hard core, or have people in lower echelons that have that culture inculcated in them. If they don’t, will they survive everything that nearly killed Tesla?
Assuming those stories are correct as told from Musk (who exaggerates everything), spot optimization of a production line typically creates pressure in other areas. More likely what happened is that the engineers / technicians placated Musk and reversed his "improvements" once Musk found a new shiny problem to "solve".
Tesla NACS (SlowCharger) News: Adrian promised 350 kW in 2016! NACS cooling towels on sale at Walm*rt 2 for $5! 24pk NACS cooling water $1.99 at Krog*r this week! 1 can of freeze spray to achieve 300 kW only $17.19 at Digik*y!
Nothing beats the Chevrolet Tahoe police unit😂❤❤
If the Rivian R2 doesn't have a special "D2" edition, what are we even doing here?
I have an idea what the back up sound should be.😅
Disney lawyers would pounce on them so hard. 😊
The Honda Ye S7 looks great!
Waymo is so good. I used it in Phoenix and I can’t wait for it to come to Vegas where I live
ikr...? navigating masterfully all around Sky Harbor Airport and even down University Ave through ASU Tempe (with all the goofy College Kids tumbling off their skateboards and into the crosswalk). 👏
Waymo doesn't operate in all weather conditions. It operates in all conditions you see in LA. Which is... Like two? Arid and dry 95% of the time and rain the other 5%. Not really too impressive.
Where does FSD work without a driver? I will wait.
Correction to per vehicle loss, stated was $4300 corrected is over $ 43,000 about the same as one year ago.
Ahh okay. When I heard $4300 loss per car I was like that's pretty damn good for a low volume startup! 43 THOUSAND dollar loss on each car is ... not quite as good.
Ouch!
The Honda Ye series should be sent out around the world, those look great…
Almost every EV car being sold is NOT,...not a full production vehicle. Only Tesla and BYD are making full production vehicles (200,000 per year). If you buy a Honda Ye, it may be discontinued like the BMW I-3 and the Chevy Bolt.
After watching Motor Trend do a long interview with JD, it seems like Rivian is making the right moves.
Lucid is just burning cash and looks like it will crash and burn. Rivian is burning cash, but seems to be truly building a foundation for great success.
Lucid has a near bottomless pit of funds. Compared to the other projects MBS is trying to fund (trying to build mega cities in a middle of a desert), Lucid is comparatively cheap. As long as Middle East is producing oil, Lucid will be funded.
Both are cash incinerators,...BOTH! For Rivian, I would say get a new management team. For Lucid,...get some butter,...it's toast!
Would love to see Ford offering dedicated police vehicles here in Europe,
And also from other automakers too
It seems to me police vehicles would benefit the most with EVs. This would boost donut coffee shops' revenue by providing a charging station at their stores; gives the officers more excuse to stop for coffee and donut.
Jokes aside.. cybertruck would be gold as they could catch all cars plus pit and ram them with minimal loss.. whistlindiesel proved it and video of the test crashes
Police vehicles would be a good application of a plug-in-hybrid. Cops don't have time for dounts and coffee,...they are performing a dangerous job while serving their community. 95% of Police Officers are GOOD-GUYS and do their job to keep us safe 👈🏾
Wow, Waymo is really proving robotaxis are going to do quite well when they are rolled out in meaningful numbers. That's quite the demand backlog!
Smart move by ford to sell the Explorer hybrid to the police.
The police should really go fully electric, but these hybrids will help to reduce cost a lot for those that still think they need ICE vehicle
Tesla and BYD are each producing over a million EVs per year. Rivian and Ford's EV output combined are not a tenth of that per year. I am a Rivian advocate, but for now they are a cash incinerator.
Anyone that wants to do anything wrong just needs an electric car to beat the Ford interceptors whatever drivetrain The dept chooses. So so sad
That Honda is rebadged Cadillac Lyric.
more like a Deepal s7
@@vorlon81 Deepal is a subsidiary of Changan, while Honda's JV partners are Dongfeng and GAC. It will be Changan's JV partners such as Mazda who will have rebadged Deepals, such as the new Mazda EZ-6
@@vorlon81 Honda Ye is their in-house design
Savings of 831 gallons of gas a year. Or the police should just use the model y, like the Pasadena Police Department, and use 0 gallons of gas.
The future for auto assembly line workers is humanoid robots. Shawn Fain, you won the most recent strike against the big 3 auto companies, but you lost the war. You can’t unionize a robot! You will be in the unemployment line in 5 to 10 years.
6:07 Theft claims may be lower, but what about damage claims from theft attempts? Because these cars have a reputation now, and they'll still get broken into in order to _try_ stealing them.
That's the real issue. Learning that _some_ of the cars have been upgraded merely turns it into a game of chance for car thieves.
"We took a regular robot arm that is bolted to the floor that is capable of extremely rapidly and accurately moving sheet metal plates and replaced it with an awkward humanoid robot that can't actually perform this task, costs radically more, but makes people unfamiliar with how robots work think we're an AI company".
Could we please stop reporting on the clearly fake bipedal robot stuff? You might as well go back to reporting on NFTs given how real any of this actually is.
re: "costs radically more, but makes people unfamiliar with how robots work think we're an AI company". NAILED IT...!!!🤙
Hyundai software update or recall ?? hahaha
BMW tests Robotoid Humans in South Carolina; there, I fixed it.
BMW doesn't test humanoid robots at all and this is a marketing scam. I fixed it again.
Still glad I ain’t human ❤
@@ethanwelner1230 Please do not take me literally.
I don’t know if I’d just repeat BMW’s word on those robots like that. Sounds like the obvious thing to hype with no proof
Why would anyone use a humanoid robot on an assembly line other than to intimidate workers and unions. Any assembly line robot without perform any humanoid robot
What's even more absurd about Musk's idea is that the maintenance of a floor full of humanoid robots will be done by engineers making 2x or more what the traditional assembly line worker makes not even counting assembly line stoppages due to half-a$$ed output from non-optimized robots. "Why is the door attachment bot trying to attach wheels instead!"
Atlas (of Boston Dynamics/Hyundai Mega Corp fame) says it's going to give all these phony bots the "People's Elbow"... "DO YOU SMELL THE CIRCUITS THAT THE ATLAS IS COOKING...!!!" (best Ai/synthesized Duane Johnson voice)
You use humanoid robots because they are replacing humans. There should be an IQ captcha before being allowed to comment.
@@phillyphil1513 Rock / Austin late 90's were so over. Those crowds were unbelievable.
Robots will replace auto workers. Present day AI is a myth! Robotic technology like self-driving technology is advancing and robots will incrementaly start replacing human workers on the assembly line. Robot workers can easily perform repetitive actions 👈🏾
🤔 I’m wondering why WAYMO’s car is so dated? And then if you had an EV police interceptor, wouldn’t the slightest damage to the cruiser in a pit manoeuvre write off the vehicle?
Rivian is killing lucid , fisker and cannot plus lordstowm
Well the Yee looked nice, yet another automaker building a more affordable EV NOT available in the US.
Awesome Ford Explorer Interceptor!
I believe RIVN is losing $33,000 per unit sold at the gross margin level.
They only make 57,000 units per year. Of course they lose money at such a small output. Once they get to the point of selling 150,000 per year they will flip the profit story. Hope they make it.
Figure0.2 testing its robots at BMWs Spartanburg facilities. Pretty impressive what they have going. More so than Optimus or UBtech.
Have you seen the competition?
@@danubiosalas4231 yup. It’s pretty intense. You have agility, BD, TRI, Baidu, Hyundai. As someone actively working in the field everyone agrees that the progress Figure has made is nothing short of impressive although their stack is based on BD’s open source research but the talent level there is quite strong and doing tasks untethered and with such dexterity is nothing short of of extraordinary. Just take a look
Humanod robots can't join unions. The future of car factories.
Aren't Rivian losing $28,000 per vehicle? I think you understated it.
Someone recently said that building cars is hard. I remember a time when Elon was getting upset with the cash burn rate at Tesla until it stabilized.
43,000 per vehicle same as one year ago.
If you have to upgrade production line after producing only several thousand cars, perhaps you should upgrade your engineers and get some with experience in car manufacturing?
You should be constantly improving the line.
Rivian needs to get some one to stream line their production cost of the will never make money. Amazon will take over and have a van company😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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The fun with Rivian is even if they earn money on each one sold they will not be profitable as a company because they spend nearly 4b a year for SG&A and R&D across the year. Meaning even if they sold 60k units it would require a profit of over ... wait for it... $66k per sale.
Agree, Rivian is showing that large battery EVs with lots of tech is a money losing thing to sell.
Rivian up on lost Rivian is in big trouble
Optimus will make Tesla a trillion dollar company! Tesla has been using Optimus in its factories but you won't hear that here.
Hi Elon. Please tell us how many companies have committed to buying flOptimus. Are these companies the same ones that have committed to being FSD licensees?
Because obviously Tesla isn't a car company anymore. Oh look, iRobot coming soon!
You mean optimism
What is optimus? An industrial robot? Others have used those for decades...
Is this the same thing as Musk giving a tour of Freemont's stone-age, run-down factory and pretending that the old (battered, dented) logistics robots they had there were Tesla inventions even though they were probably old ones left from Toyota, the same kind as everyone even in small Mom&Pop businesses have used in warehouses? I remember Tesla having plastic bags and cardboard boxes of parts scattered around, employees using who knows what clothes, jeans etc., and still using pen and paper on the line!!
You sure about that?
I like my Tesla but. Elon is a drag … cars are cheap build at best and models and work van are lacking
So I understand the naysayers
Tesla and BYD are selling over a million vehicles per year. Tesla and BYD are selling very reliable vehicles. I have never heard a Tesla owner complain about the build quality of their vehicles. I don't like Musk either, but Tesla is without a doubt the only successful AMERICAN EV manufacturer and is THE most successful EV manufacturer in the WORLD 👈🏾
On the EV negative gross margin subject:
Read the Elon Musk biographies and look at what Tesla had to do to survive getting the model S to market and improving build quality.
Look at the model 3 production hell. Musk was involved and modified dozens & dozens of attributes of the manufacturing line. He noticed a robotic arm installing bolts was moving too slow, and waited at the arm until a technician could be found who knew how to access the control panel and edit the code.
The arm went from 20% speed to 70%. Musk also had removed additional unnecessary code that spun the bolt in reverse twice.
Elon spent untold hours questioning every requirement, deleting unnecessary parts, optimizing, speeding up and then automating.
I question if the leaders at other EV manufacturers are willing to go as hard core, or have people in lower echelons that have that culture inculcated in them.
If they don’t, will they survive everything that nearly killed Tesla?
Assuming those stories are correct as told from Musk (who exaggerates everything), spot optimization of a production line typically creates pressure in other areas. More likely what happened is that the engineers / technicians placated Musk and reversed his "improvements" once Musk found a new shiny problem to "solve".
Overpriced junk !
lol😂 which one ?
Tesla NACS (SlowCharger) News: Adrian promised 350 kW in 2016! NACS cooling towels on sale at Walm*rt 2 for $5! 24pk NACS cooling water $1.99 at Krog*r this week! 1 can of freeze spray to achieve 300 kW only $17.19 at Digik*y!
Dont forget to hold the cable when you are using the towel and the water trick. What is WRONG with people?
@@russh6414same people that modify suspension on Civics, Miatas and Subarus to spread the tires.
GM guys like to chew it. Driving chevy makes it taste good!
...all this time and still unfunny every time...
@@dertythegrower Do you need some cooling towels or cooling water? Why doesn’t Musk sell that at his SlowChargers?