Ford Quick Tips #65: Diagnosing Tire Noise Concerns
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I have noticed in recent years that even if a tire wears down evenly they will get extremely noisey at about half way. It's a billion dollar business. I worked at a tire/auto shop for 4 years
I'm having that exact problem of inner tire wear & cupping - but it is only happening on front driver side...
Could it still just be tire only problem or is it less likely as the wear is only only present on one side (the tires are winter tires, so definitely soft).
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ome worst tier you will ever get!
I changed my wheel bearings, u-joints, and center support bearing without inspecting my tires. What an expensive mistakes. Good thing I found your video. Thank you!
You can spin it and put a light behind it, you will see bounce in the edges clearly.
In an effort to figure out what is the cause of my road noise with my 06 Scion tC I have watched numerous of videos on wheel bearing and tire noise and you my friend have articulated what to look for better than anyone else. Thank you!
fat smoky burnout my smooth them right out :)
great video. I first heard noises after a cold snow storm, thought it to be a wheel bearing, or brakes. took to a auto shop, was told the shocks where bad and tires where wearing bad. i changes the shocks, but still i hear the rhythmic noise (like a soft chop/ thump). My question is, do the tires need immediate change now or will they wear down in time?
Dude..thanks I did not know this affects tyre noise..change all 4 and quiet AF.
God bless you I learned a lot from this channel 🙂
Tire separation and blistering are also a concern. I've seen "NEW" tire blister and separate pretty early in their life especially on tires that have been sitting in a warehouse for years before installation. Make sure to check the date codes on the tires carefully. Try not to buy "New" tires that are over 5 years old.
If they separate at highway speed, it's not fun... Trust me on that.
@@johndough9187 hope your still with us.... (i feel like im talking to a ouija board typing this)
I am, thanks. But it was like you see on NASCAR when they lose a right front and turn right, hard.... only in a dually 4x4 on the interstate... Ever seen a dually at 70 mph with 3 wheels in the air, 2 in the dirt and one gone? Fortunately down here in Mississippi I was at a spot with a big wide grassy shallow ditch/shoulder and didn't hit anything. But I can still show you the skid marks.... on my seat. They were almost new tires, but defective. Bought 6 and 5 of them separated, shed the tread, or exploded before they got old. Cooper brand. I then got to talking with an engineer friend who was familiar with Cooper's manufacturing techniques, and let's just say you couldn't give me any more of them.
Thanks for your time and making things easier to comprehend I know that a 93 T bird is going to be hard to find the issue what I can say is that it is not the tires and this thumping sensation and noise from the rear passenger side can't hear it until car has been city stop and go for about two miles and taking a chance on free way it was loudest and continue to get loud when I was steadily pace but would stop if I let off the gas as I got almost home I noticed it wasn't as bad or loud. The car has been stored under car port for almost year and half before I bought it
The first thing done brake inspection informed me that I have to do a break fluid contaminated flushing and break pads are still OK but discontinued. can you please let me know what you think about this and what would you start looking at if you want to ask about anything else let me know Anu time.. thank you very much for your time and consideration
Amazing how these new tires are rated at 60,000 miles, but realistically they wear out half way and produced the road noise. My Lexus has only 35,000 miles (still the OEM Michelin tires) and I'm starting to hear these "woosh woosh" sound when I let go of the accelerator. Rotating them doesn't seem to help. Now I'm going to try feeling them to see if cupping is the problem.
I’m a commercial vehicle mechanic with many years of experience. I’m having trouble with my own car at the moment. I thought it was a wheel bearing I replaced one front bearings but the noise was still there. I have checked my tyres and there is cupping on them all, funny thing is they are wearing very evenly apart from the saw tooth effect. I suppose it’s down to not rotating the tyres early enough. They aren’t cheap tyres but low profile continentals. Good info here, thanks.
Those have so much weather checking on them I would make them replace those tires first thing anyway. Weather checking (dry rot) causes cracks, which let water in and rust the belts
You just finally explained the noise when i slow down. I thought it was rotors or my bearings wearing out but my car is a 2022 i had a hard time believing my bearing was out already thank you!
My 97 F150 was fine until I took it in for a recall in 97. They said they screwed up and knocked the weight off the driveshaft and had to replace it. After that, it made that wop wop sound. I took it back several times but they said it was the tires and I would have to deal with Firestone. That year I got a company car so I drove the truck very little for 6 years. The tires dry rotted so I had 4 brand new Goodyear tires put on the truck. Guess what. I still have the exact noise coming from the rear. Same sound, same volume, louder at slower speed but the same wop wop wop. Only difference is that now there is no warranty and the dealership says oh well. Any ideas?
I put on gloves and did feel the cupping. Very helpful video! 3Q (means Thank you)!
I think I recognize that neighborhood & the 08 Escape ; ) Thanks for the help on this one Brian.... New tires are installed and she's happy with her quiet car again... Paul....
Nice good to hear.
@@FordTechMakuloco excellent vidéo. Because I have a noise from 40 mph and up, first I have changed the front wheel hub bearings and the axle bearings because I think it was the bearings! So the noise is gain here ! I think now these are my front tyres ! It s incredible ! It seems to the bearings noise but it s not ! So thank you!
Nice video. Lots of good information on tires. #TireManufacturesMatter I worked in a tire shop for a few years and put on many a tire and fixed many a flats. I've always been impressed with Toyo tires. It's the only tire I'll put on my personal vehicles. They aren't top of the line like Michelin, but they are way better than factory rubbers, and not too far behind Michelin IMO. There are plenty of good tires out there but people really should buy the best tire they can afford, and should try to save money to buy even better tires if they can.
Over 30mph road noise is louder than the engine. I've been over inflating two of the tyres once a week because of rim leaks. I knew I'd likely cause uneven wear but didn't know about this noise.
Mondeo's 17 years old with only 40,000 miles, so I didn't expect the bearings to be worn, although I really don't know if this is possible.
Thanks for the explanations, I'll get on it as soon as.....
Hi Brian. I've looked and can't find a video on changing OEM bulbs (turn signal, interior backup, etc) in your library. I have a 2011 F150 XLT super crew and I put LED's in last weekend. This in turn cased the rapid blinking like a bulb is out. I saw videos saying that I need a LED compatible relay switch, which I bought. I just can't find the location of the old relay to replace it with the new one. Then I found a video that said the 2011 F150 uses a computer to control the blinker speed. Can you advise? Thanks for your time. Matt.
Got some at Walmart and I'm getting a humping skipping noise I Kno it's the tires I ask them to change them and they won't. Said they don't see anything wrong with them .. good year realiant... But can a Bent rim cause it ?
I find when I have more people in the car the noise is less?
very very helpful! thank you very much. I have mercedes s550 the air ride airmatic suspension system, does that require any special tires? what would u recommend? thnx
I have Firestones on my 95 F150 and they are noisy unless the alignment is perfect. Fantastic grip in the rain though.
Gives me a good reason to do a burnout.
ANY reason is a good reason to do a burnout!
Thanks for this very helpful video! My original set of tires were running out. I had to replace them in few months, unfortunately/fortunately, a front passenger side's tire inflated. So I replaced it with a used tires, by the time I was getting ready for a new set. With that used tire, I had some grinding noise between 20mph to 40mph. Has you recommended to feel the tire, before I even touched it, I noticed that its TREAD PATTERNS was Asymmetric while the rest of the tires were Symmetric ! I did some researches and found that, both shouldn't be mixed on one vehicle. So I re-replaced the Asymmetric one and Voila! The noise is gone!
my truck make noise and vibrant after 55 mile to 70 if i take out the pedal speed get louder
This video is so informative! Thanks bro
Does worn out suspension and old differential fluid affect tire noise?
I have this problem and I changed my tires and I still have the noise 😢.
i don't have a tire problem. i just like watching your videos. thanks for sharing!
Yes Brian it did help. Thanks!! Love this s channel!!
Great tips thank you
If ur wheel barring is going will it make ur tire look like it is Lenin out
Wish i watched this before installing 4 new bearings and still having a lot of noise 😅
I just changed the transmission..
This is a very good video, thanks for the help !
I've been dealing with this issue on my 2014 Mustang GT since it was new. I've had the alignment done at least three times and rotate the tires every 5,000 miles. I'm still running the factory Pirelli PZero Nero tires. The original 18" tires and wheels I swapped out fairly early with a like new set of take off 19" factory Mustang rims and that had the same Pirelli tires on it and it didn't take long for the noise to start because of the feathering of the front tires hence the multiple front end alignments which were pretty much within factory specs each time. The factory 18" developed this feathering problems before I swapped them out with the 19" tire and wheel setup. The question now is what is a better quality tire to put on when I go to replace the current tires? Michelin? The tire noise is so loud now that it's no fun driving this car with the windows up. Car only has about 32,000 miles on it.
Wow I think im having the same issue on the same exact car . It's been months . But I suspect it's more than tires . Mine pulls, steering wanders , plus the tire humming
@@cbreezyovo6126 Mine doesn't pull or wander but the tire noise is insane. I've only driven it a couple of times since I posted a reply four months ago because the noise irritates me so much. I can't afford new tires right now so the car just sits.
Very good tip. Thanks for that.
Im a technician for a fleet of about 350 E350's. We recently bough 50 2016 E350's Dual Rear Wheel and they came with Michelin All season tires. At 80PSI Front and Rear we averaged 8-12k Miles on them. They we're way too soft of a tread to handle the weight of the vehicle plus load. They all had the exact same tread wear as you just showed.
MusTang Nick guess there just putting the cheapest tires on factory vechiles
I bought a set of Michelins for my '06 E350 and was really disppointed in the treadwear. They wore evenly but only lasted about 25K.
I should mention that our replacement tires are firestone trans force and we average 20-30k miles on them. Without any scalloped wear.
ratbert86 Michelin tires have an especially soft compound for ride comfort and grip. Not all of their tires have this compound but if you put these tires on your vehicle and expect long tread life, you will be disappointed. I use these tires on my Lincoln Town Car since the sidewall flex is part of the soft ride of the car but 35K is about all the life I get out of them. I have to pay extra for the ride.
These were 10 ply truck tires, same as what is spec'd for the van. I've owned these vans off and on for the past 20 years (they're essentially unchanged since '92) and used to be able to get 40K+ out of a good set.
I’ve had this issue for about a year on my truck (2004 Ford Ranger XLT). Been getting worse over the past couple months when I was finally able to physically see the cupping. I kinda figured this was my issue but you just confirmed it my man. Thank you, now time to get some big boy tires 😂
People just don’t rotate. Those non-directional Contis would be perfectly quiet if rotated every 5-7k miles.
At last, positive information on what to look for ,so many tire noise videos (TYRE in UK !) are ambiguous, and don't help at all, thanks UK
I discovered my tyre /bearing noise was under inflation by 3 lbs all round, I must have inflated them on a hot day a few weeks ago to correct pressure 30 lbs ,now the weather is cooler they were underinflated to 27 lbs hence the increased noise.
I inflated them to 30 and added 1 lb for luck,its like driving a different car (Honda Civic) much quieter and smoother.
I have a 2008 f150 and driving the truck today while acceleration it starts to make a rattlesnake style sound any idea maybe?
Man those junk Continentals that Ford had for factory fitment on those Escapes are total trash. Always will be. Rear shocks on those Escape are also notorious. Michelin LTX M/S and new shocks and you will be golden
great advice, just bought my 2011 ford escape with 60000kms and all 4 tires are like this, brutal noise. Next set will be rotated every 2nd oil change just to be sure. thank brother, great video!
ive got amg gla45 2017 ..got a tyre slapping sound ..sounds like a rock in the tyre groove .or tyre moveing on the bead squishing sound...second set of tyres doing same thing .drive for 5 minutes goes away ..continental 20 inch standard . its like the tyre has to warm up to shut up ..anyone else hear this for 5 min ..through it into a few corners and is quiet. no noise at all .
Best best video i had this issue i check it with lot of tyre dealers they failed to identify the problem of noise in my tyred tomorrow i am going to change all the four tyres. Best video thanksss
My f250 had funny wear patterns on front tire...had that Wa, Wa, sound and they got very loud....come to Find out, the shocks were way over due for replacement it was just like you said........GREAT VIDEO...Thanks
Can needing a alignment cause that
I remember the welts on the sidewalls of the Firestone tires back when I worked assembling the Ranger/Mazda pickups 1996-1998, I was told it's just the seams, I said I've installed tons of tires and never recall indentations like those! We used Continental and Good Year tires on those models and neither had the issues the Firestone's did. Ford always had issues with front tire wear on all their trucks, I-beam, independent especially the radius arm suspension!Again another great video! Thanks
If my tires are low in Psi could it possibly be making noise. Or it’s my wheel bearing. I have 215/35/18 and a little camber wear.
My 13 f150 recommends motorcraft orange coolant. do I have to use that or is there another brand that is equal? is dexcool the same?
Thanks for the video
re: Catch can installation - I am planning on getting this catch can combo, so i went to inspect my engine before installing. I noticed on the PVC intake to the passenger side turbo, the "nub" you drilled into is already accessed by what seems to be a 2 inch rubber hose, clamped to the end of the nub. It is factory, and leads back into the turbo area I am not quite sure what it is connected to. What should i do in this case? i took a picture of it so I can email it to you. thanks in advance- John
I had that same noise you described in the beginning of the video really bad, so I bought 4 new tires but still have the noise, but a lot less with the new ones, but it gets worse when I make turns, any ideas? I think I need n e w shocks in the back , but the noise is also in the front. Any ideas anyone? Thanks .
I replace my tires afew month ago and I have a noise in my tires I replace the bearing and cv axles and noise still the . One of my tires is having curb damage but I did valance and alightment I'm totally confused .. I don't know what to do .. I'm gonna put my bad tire on the rear and if not work I'm gonna change my front end bushings . If not work I'm gonna pray for a miracle 😯
I have a GMC Terrain and I have the same problem, in my case I have Yokohama winter tire and they are directional, how to rotate those ones all four tire has the same inner edge wear.
Is this a problem with just the continential tires or the escapes? I have a '10 escape with new michelins from ford and I haven't had a problem with them for the past 20k miles or so
Why should rotating the tires make any difference ?
Tires on the steering axles get more wear and tear than the fixed axels, if you rotate them you get longer life from them because they wear more evenly as where if you didn't rotate them the steering axel rubber would wear more quickly.
Sounds logical.Thanks.
Welcome, ironically Scotty Kilmer had a video posted today on the same subject..."great mind" !
I just changed my tires for winter and they're doing that noise.
Is it dangerous? I can live with noise, I'm a student and don't have much money.
Thank you very much... Very nice video.. Had the same problem with new tires and wasn't sure what is the cause.
I have cupping happening to my truck front tires on the Centre and inner edge. It makes sense that it would happen on the back if your shocks are shot but could that also be bad shocks on the front?
hey man I got.a 86 ford. put a new moter in an it.still.bubbling back in the over flow jug keep pressure. on it
14 escape - changed out stock tires for Yokohama avid ascends and the noise and ride were dramatically improved. The difference is staggering really.
sometimes in a hard curve it goes away im lost had the front end shaken down and I got a bad upper ball joint control arm and tie rods but I dont think thats it the tires are fine so its minor
Cant a noise cause be from the sticker glue that comes with a brand new tire?
I changed my tires but that noise is still there. Rim damaged?
Great info. Having this issue on a used vehicle with newer tires.
Very informative video. You mention about shock absorbers being a cause of tyre problems. Would you be able to show a video on how to change them?
I'd buy new tires anyway because they usually dry rot before you have uneven wear.
What about the the wobble sound coz of bearings ans how to differentiate
Awesome video man
First off, thank you for all the great F-150 knowledge!
I've got an 02 F-150 5.4L 4x4 and I've got the infamous "Death Wobble" and I haven't a clue what to do next. What I've done: new stabilizer and bushings, new control arm, new ball joint (front driver side), new brake calipers, rotated tires. NOTHING HELPED! The front tire wobbles uncontrollably. I'm running out of time and money.
PLEASE HELP A SINGLE DAD OUT!
Ever get your issues fixed?
this is my first time using federal ss595, and when u started talking about performance tires...i lost it. never had tire noise before, thank you for the great video
Great video . Lots of help in the comments also👌
Brief and to the point! Great helpful information!
Continental tires suck in my opinion. Installed True Contact on a Grand Marquis. Even with KYB mono shocks, lots of balancing, alignments, good front end I get a bit of speed sensitive steering vibration on some roads. Tire has no obvious issues, even rotated back to front. Continental said some roads and some suspensions will cause a bit of vibration.
alb12345672 I've got them on two of my cars there ok. There sport tires a good.
Would this drastically effect gas mileage
He said "you want an all-terrain tire." Maybe for a truck or SUV, but probably not for a passenger car or minivan.
+John Dough All season I mean I think the point was made don't get a speciality tire unless needed.
Thank you for this video. Will start getting tire rotation with oil changes.
What are your thoughts on dry rotating tires, in the close up of the tire you can see a little rot starting, would you recommend tires or would it have to be a lot worse??
Those minute cracks are nothing I have seen trucks with 15k miles on them have this issues they would have to be much much worse to be an issue.
Brian, can you do a video on checking shocks or what to look for in a worn shock? I've always been taught that if a car continues to bounce after going over a dip, then the shocks are worn, but if the dip is absorbed and the car doesn't float or bounce, then they're good. My '03 Expedition has 215,000 miles on the original shocks and doesn't seem to be exhibiting any signs of worn shocks, but I guess that with today's shock technology, a bad shock might not always be as apparent as it used to be.
check for leaking shockss.
Not exhibiting any signs of worn shocks would seem to include the fact that they aren't leaking.
Excellent explanation... well done...
Yeah ima just do a fat burnout to even it out
Very good video. Thank you.
You just save me a lot of time and money. Thanks mate
had the transfer case and rear end lubed and im still getting some moaning around 45mph sounds like trans area uh oh
Try to check if you have the same tread patterns on all four tires. If you have a "Directional Tread" , make sure that they're correctly installed. I had the same issue until I realized that I installed a different tread pattern on one of the tires.
Thank you for the info, I was worried I had brakes or hub issues. When breaking I would get the growling noise and the breaks are new, I suspected tires.
Thanks 👍 very helpful video
Thanks. Subscribed.
Great Vid ! never thought of it THANKS
Some good advise on this video.
is it safe to drive uneven tire?
I just purchased a used 2009 Explorer. I noticed a light flapping noise on the front left tire. The faster I drove the faster the noise. Also I noticed when driving it, it was a real bumpy and shaky. I pulled over and I checked what Ford says to inflate to and It said 35 psi. I check the Tires and they all read 40 psi. I thought why would they inflate it to 40 when it says 35 ? I then start to deflate the tires to 35psi. The bumpy and shaky was gone but then I got a Tire sensor reading. And it's been on ever since. (about 2 weeks) Also I can't find the 5 digit code for the keyless entry. Looked everywhere, driver side fuse box with tiny mirror, rear passenger seat belt panel, computer module etc Nothing. Also place where I bought it from doesn't know either. It wasn't a Ford dealership it was like a Carmax place. I Call Ford, they want $120.00. I refuse to pay that. It's like they have a monopoly over it.
the box with the code is located next to the parking brake assembly.
I used bing to find this. I typed in (2009 explorer keyless entry code) and it was on a site called justanswer. You can read the steps on there on how to access the box.
I'll go look, God I hope it's there.
i looked there and found a sticker but the sticker had random numbers mixed with letters. and didnt see a 5 digit number all together.
At 26K if the shocks are worn out they are putting garbage shots on at the factory.
Hey wasn't saying the shocks are going out on the low mileage vehicles, he was giving reasons for cupping in General. I work at a Ford Dealership. The number one reason at low mileage is Lack of Rotation and Funky Tire Pressures. I see it every day. One tire at 24psi, one at 29psi, one at 32psi, and one at 38psi. People don't pay attention to their tire pressure. We just had someone that had a low profile set of tires and got a flat and drove on it and it shredded the inside of the tire. Also people that get their tires plugged when they get screws or nails in them at tire shops, alot of the time the tech just inflates the tire and puts it back on without even putting it to factory spec. This is usually noticeable when you are checking tire pressures and 3 have 32psi and the 4th has like 42psi. I always check tire pressures and set them to factory door specs unless stated not to by customers. We have a guy with a F250 and he likes his lower because he is getting up there in age and likes a smoother ride.
I decided to check the air in my truck tires a few days ago and was surprised at how bad they were.I keep an eye on these things but also pay a tire company good money for the tires and extra for them to take care of this kind of thing.The tires were all over the place and all low with one barely at 30.It was this very noise issue that brought out the tire gauge.It has gotten to where I can not trust anybody anymore.This includes my dealership who tried to send me across the country a quart low two days after an oil change.
Tyre Pornography :D
Another winning video!
Thx Bro!!
Any thing planned to show "very excessive" tire wear and explain in mid-depth the causes if possible the fix?
This was a great video for sure but sure wished there was mechanical fix included. Maybe even explaining how to visually check how the tires should look like from the sides when we do a walk around?
seems a lot of people don't know this.
I 100% agree that minimum wear or wear to both sides at the same time or too much wear in the center is owner induced.
Maintaining proper tire pressure and tire rotation is the key to long tire wear. A simple check once a month works.
I wanted to only concentrate on the noise aspect of this kind of concern and leave suspension wear and shock leakage inspection to a separate video. It seem doing it this way it makes it easier for folks to find what they are looking for.
FordTechMakuloco Yeah that's awesome. Your videos really are best.
I'm gonna go back through your videos to see what I probably missed.
Lolz.... you'd think by now I'd have'em memorized.
You rock bruddah.