He was 39 and died arguing about having unprotected sex with a teenage girl who'd been sex-trafficked? Why do I get the impression that he was probably travelling around regularly looking for this fetish and eventually it cost him his life and we're supposed to feel sympathy for him? I feel for his victim!
@@TomikaKelly Inevitably, a victim-blamer turns up in my replies. She was a sex-trafficked teenage girl under the control of a pimp who'd just shot someone to death over $100 right in front of her! Do some research into the impact of abusive relationships upon the psychological state of girls and women. Pimps are experts in maintaining exploitative situations through manipulation and control and through violence, fear and mental abuse. In court she detailed the violence that he inflicted against her and during sentencing the judge said that he'd enslaved her. Blame abusers, not their victims.
Well you heard it from the horse's mouth... You don't want to work for the white man. I believe that's why the prisons are overflowing. That's just me.
Not to defend him, but nothing in the actual story indicated that he knew she was underaged. But if he knew, then I don't feel sorry for him. I kind of don't anyway. He was taken out arguing over wanting to go raw with a working girl, and you know he likely had women that he slept around with without needing to pay for it, meaning he could have been spreading disease around.
Both men were predators, and the fact that the sister is placing blame on a child turns my stomach. In my opinion the trash took itself out. I’m glad that the little girl is free. Next!
@IllObserveAndReport, I love your post. You are absolutely 💯 right. It's disgusting how this collective of people 👨🏿👩🏿 conduct themselves. I make it a point to have minimal interaction with these people.
Crime Watch Daily and Chris Hansen are ok with it. They want us to sympathize with him. Yet throw other men who chased after imaginary fake underage kids they create in a vacuum into prison.
That's the story... You know they use fake pictures on those ads right? Why would you post your minor in their so the feds can easily have reason to pull up on you? 🤦🏻♂️🤣 This was HER story. Most likely they just flat out set him up. They literally stole everything on him.
💯 One thing is for certain for real men is that we know if she’s a female or not and if she’s of age! I don’t give passes to dudes that get caught with transmissions or underage girls!
I'm sick of his sister painting Chef Doug out to be some upstanding hero. He was tricking with underage girls in abject poverty. I remember this case, great police work, but in all honesty, I dont have sympathy for Doug. At his age, he should have been settled down with a woman his age & not exploiting teen girls. 🤬🤬
@semplybalanced3210 you ain't lying. It's an instinct that alerts our brain to place someone in an age category 🤷🏽♀️ that's why alot of older people get compliments if they "look" good for their age.
I just commented something similar… it’s an epidemic nowadays, a lot of “red pill” successful black males don’t want to get married, let alone to someone around their age. It’s sick… but at the end, it doesn’t work out. Even if they don’t end up like Doug, they end up like one of my uncles… he was married treated his wife horribly, divorced, played the field for years BUT ended up getting sick. Was found basically passed out alone in his apartment. He’s alive but very sick and needy. Always begging people to cook him homemade food and spend time with him. Now if he would have settled down and stayed with his wife, he wouldn’t be begging for company and home cooked meals. Sad
Poor young girl? I seriously doubt that. If she killed someone, they would try her as an adult. If she had sex with someone older, then suddenly she's a child, an innocent victim. Prosecutors want to have it both ways and they get it.
@@vettech_ I'm not. Women just do not like to be held accountable for their actions that get them into bad situations. Women do not like to be held accountable for ANYTHING.
@@jasonx-ray3921. Why should she be accountable for the actions of two grown men? Y’all stay talking about accountability. Where is yours? Yall want women to take the blame for how yall behave? Are you serious? 😅😴🚮
His family's reaction tells me everything I need to know about how he was raised and how he felt entitled to have sex with a broken, manipulated little girl
@@bryangman1975 what do u think this 16 yr old looked like she was 25? talked like she was 25? It is not hard to spot a child even if the child lies. likely cant drive either, drives like crap, has no money. dozens of possible red flags. Doubt this sex workers pimp gave her much. she was prob pretty much a sex slave, not a sex "worker". She too young for this crap. Even if she was of age, prostitution is illegal. a prestigous guy like a man in uniform serving his country should be able to easily find a woman his own age. Why pay for it when you got titles like that?? because he knew she was under age and he is lying about not knowing her age. it is obvious. This marine chef was evil and he deserves what he got for exploiting a child. Why are you playing defense on a pedophile? I am all for murrica and respecting our men in uniform, but even monsters can wear uniforms. 1 bad apple doesnt ruin the whole bunch for me but he was a bad apple. Freaking evil to even want to do this. You definitely are the problem for defending a pedo.
@@bryangman1975 in retrospect u might be talking about the marine chefs family. The adjective little makes it seem like ur defending the pedo because the marine definately aint little, nor is his family who raised him little. They are all grown adults who are not innocent or little. They are all grown and big enough to know better.
So this creep is a predator but a bunch of teary eyed people are talking about his salads and how he used to "light up a room"? Disgusting. That poor girl.
@@ceoatcrystalsoft4942 UNBELIEVABLE that so many idiots will make instant judgements with none of the circumstances in the case. I’m objective and I read that the girl had lived with scumbag Trayvon for more than a year and her family had tried to get her to come back home but she chose to stay of her own free will time and again. What do people think that when guys (not myself) hire women for sexual acts at 4 in the morning drunk that they carry out stringent ID checks and background checks on them lol?😂 IF he knew her and knew the situation before hand then I have no sympathy but I’m not aware that this is the case. All the “Poor girl” comments lol like she didn’t try and cover up the murder at first. It was only due to experienced and excellent Police interrogators that managed to break her after 7 hours of bullshit! That girl then asked for complete immunity which is rare in a case where she had gone to great lengthlengths to to initially cover up the crime but also then prevented the investigation. Strange she knew EXACTLY where the body was without actually setting foot in that garage which tells me she helped put him in there because there is no way Trayvon the scumsucker lifted that guy into a dumpster alone.
The man who SAed me when I was little died a few years ago, and people, all of whom know what he did to me, still sing his praises like he was an angel sent straight from heaven.
@@ceoatcrystalsoft4942It doesn't matter, he put himself in that situation. All he had to do was walk away. He got oral sex that should have been it when she said no. Why would he want unprotected sex from a sex worker any way. That's dangerous because of all these diseases out here. He lived a wreck less and paid for it with his life being taken . No he didn't deserve to die but he should have left.
@@ceoatcrystalsoft4942if he wasn’t trying to buy ass he wouldn’t have been in such a position in the first place, play stupid games and I promise you’ll get a comparable prize
As a navy vet, I hate when people use military service to get respect regardless of wrongdoing. That man didn't deserve to die but he needed punishment had he lived because he was assaulting a minor. His family needs to recognize that through the grief.
@@joesphclifton9730There is no indication that he did, but men(and women) shouldn’t be having sex outside of marriage! If he was saving his self as a holy temple for God he wouldn’t have fell prey to these perverted demonic sexual society that plagues mankind and esp the black community!
@@microlithic8354. It don’t matter. It’s nasty all around. From the unprotected request to arguing over $50. No wonder why these girls stay away from these types of guys in that business. These specific group of men be soo stingy. Be wanting the most for nothing instead of just investing time into an actual relationship. Stingy folks 🤮🤮
A predator got killed during an illegal transaction. His accolades do not matter here; man had a whole other side to him. As they say, "you die looking like the decisions you've made".
She's definitely a victim, but she IS ALSO a perpetrator. She didn't just "wItNeSs" a murder, she was an accomplice after the fact helping to move the deceased's body and not reporting anything to the police.
Not to mention the "victim" was engaging in seeking under age prostitutes, the cooking angel that he was. BS. Another episode he may have wound up on a couch in front of Chris Hansen with some BBQ, beer, and rubbers. Come on people.
PEOPLE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO STOP SAYING " UNDER AGE SEX WORKERS "... THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO SUCH THING... THEY ARE CALLED RAPE VICTIMS... PERIOD !!!!!!!!
Same! I was shocked and shook when I found out what happened and WHY. He had a nice the girls age he was soliciting from. Knowing what he did had my mind all over the place. So disturbing.
He would be alive if he wasn’t trying to solicit unprotected sex from a minor. I love my family, but trying to sleep with a child whether they are willing or unwilling is disgusting! I would never blame the child blame the grown person!!!!!!!
Two things can exist at the same time. You can be both a victim AND a perpetrator. Being first to the victim Olympics doesn't make you any less of a criminal.
@@TomikaKelly 16 year old girl is a kid, a child. She didn't kill the guy. She helped hide the body and such but she didn't shoot him. He didn't deserve to die but he had no business getting a BJ then sex from a minor, cmon people...
The sister said the minor wasn’t a victim? Her brother was a popular chef. I’m sure he could take his pick of women. He chose an underage girl to take advantage of, then tried to take further advantage of her by shortchanging her over 50 piddly dollars. Her brother played a stupid game and won the ultimate stupid prize.
He didn’t know the man was there. Wonder what would have happened if the boyfriend wasn’t there🤔. Horrible to die with everyone knowing your dirty little secrets
I agree if the facts support that scenario however there is (as always) a lot of knee jerk reaction and assumptions being made in the comments when we don’t know the exact circumstances. I’m just being objective here, did the Chef know these people previously or has he maybe just got home buzzzed and rung a number on the internet?? If he knew ahead of time who she was and the situation well I’d have little or no sympathy however we don’t know this. We don’t have the Chef and former Marines version remember ONLY the scumbag killer and his girlfriend who they say is trafficked (due to her age) but I did read that there was serious doubt raised about this and that she lived with this guy of her own free will. As bad as it all sounds for the marine let’s not forget he was shot in the back and put in a dumpster and then dumped for the sake of 50 bucks. Try telling the difference between a girl who’s 17 and a girl who’s 18 or even 21 when you’re drunk. He likely wouldn’t have known the age of the woman but if he did that’s not good. I had to laugh at Trayvon the scumsuckers reaction to those charges lmao!😂 “Yeah I murdered a guy in cold blood so what? Yeah I shot him in the back like a true coward so what? Yeah I put his body in a dumpster and threw him away like trash so what? Yeah I’m a cold blooded, disturbed and sick individual and you can call me a murderer or an evil killer but don’t EVER say I trafficked an underage woman!”😱 That’s outrageous!!!😂🤣
He probably had multiple women his age, no excuse for being this shortsighted at his age and risking his brand over some tail 😳 Lust is a real spirit 😔
The girl was underaged whether she lived with her boyfriend or not. Her boyfriend victimized her and the chef victimized her. But in this world women and girls are marginalized and always treated as though they are the power-brokers and the guilty when someone (a man) gets hurt or killed. Women and girls the world over are powerless when up against males. This is a fact, period.
@@garethtaylor1470no matter what you are saying HE SHOULDNT HAVE BEEN TRYING TO BUY SEX. He got the number from back page he didn’t even live in that area so no he didn’t just stumble across a number to a pizza parlor that he wouldn’t even see a listing for. He wanted some ass and rather than finding a respectable woman to get it from he wanted to pay for it and tried to refuse payment which resulted in his death he gambled with his life for nothing this wasn’t his first rodeo he asked to have unprotected sex and a person child or not and it didn’t end the way he expected
A "victim" that murders a potential "criminal" who then robs/steals from them, moves the body, commits CC fraud, tries to cover up the murder, etc is definitely a murder suspect also. She never stated she was forced to help dispose or cover up the murder.
Bait click. Then the family although we know they miss their loved one they need to get their heads out of their a**es. You brother/son was as horrible as they come and his bs caught up with him. My family was correct. There are quite a lot of horrible crazy people serving in the military. That is why he keeps his head down and do what he does.
@@imhereforitall9218 my sister who served for almost 20 told me the same thing. The military is where the real psychopaths go to get their lives to improve, but it never does.
If she’s not a victim bcs she was selling herself, he’s not a victim for participating in her being trafficked. Dude was paying an underage girl for sex and he still wanted to violate her boundaries. Yeah, great guy.
@JamesDeWalt909 yeah, no. You clearly don’t know what the definition of trafficking is. Sex trafficking is defined by the Trafficking Victims Protection Act of 2000 as “the recruitment, harboring, transportation, provision, obtaining, *patronizing, or soliciting* of a person for the purpose of a commercial sex act.” So no. She was the victim of trafficking and he was patronizing and soliciting sexual services. Just say you don’t know what trafficking is and go. It’s ok not to know.
@JamesDeWalt909lots of women die when trying to leave their pimp and they are usually forced and manipulated into getting involved in the sex trafficking she was a literal teenager getting controlled by a grown ass man It’s the same thing as a child molester convincing a little kid that committing sexual acts on them is ok and to go along with it and hide it 🙄
Thank you. Because they talk about this 17 year selling herself, but they don't accept the fact that this " good man " went to that house to pay her for oral sex, and wanted more... 🙄🙄 I'm sorry, but if he was such a good man, why was he there trying to get laid for money??? Sickening 🤮🤮
Welcome to the black community. Black men who do the bare minimum of finding a stable job will always have hordes of women defending every disgusting thing they do to the women and children they hurt.
This family is in denial, this so called respected grown man was paying for sex with an underage girl and yet the underage girl is in the wrong. Ridiculous…. A lot of predators are out there wholf dress on sheep clothing
@@DrNurse2 It's the girls fault. This was a robbery murder setup. That wasn't their house. I doubt they did anything sexual tbh. The girl lying on her bf too. She's getting away with murder.
As a veteran, I must say…. Stop glorifying people just because of their military service when they do stuff like this. There’s no point in fighting for freedom if you’re also going to partake in HUMAN TR4FICKING. Seriously, get a grip
In my opinion you aren’t any better veteran. Thats the wrong attitude to have. You never suppose to belittle anybody what he chose to do outside the service was wild but I don’t be with the trashing other military people you sound the the chiefs that go around hazing junior sailors that don’t rank up fast enough
@@EMT_RickSo do a lot of people, but that doesn’t mean you go around sleeping with underage girls in sex trafficking, I mean you can literally tell she’s underage.
So let me get this straight. His family wants her to get the death penalty. No holding him accountable for trying to cohorts a minor into unprotected sex? Yeah he shouldn’t have died but he did put himself in that position to die especially after arguing with some random pimp
This!! These sex rings almost exclusively rely on underaged run aways. If he was making real money why not use escort service. Trying to save money as a pervert.
@@Karl-dd4omShe is 16!!! Still a minor! And 17 is still a CHILD!💯 She was sex trafficking her.💯 And it's interesting how BM calls a 24 yr old basketball player, who IMPREGNATED multiple women, a boy and child but call girls 14 and up adults. she is still a child.💯 Stop calling black girls grown women when she is NOT!
@@Karl-dd4om Yes in Texas, the legal age of consent is 17. In Michigan, it's 16. However, being trafficked for sex is a crime regardless of the age of the victim. Sex trafficking involves exploiting individuals through force, fraud, or coercion for the purpose of commercial sex acts, and it is illegal under both state and federal law. Therefore, if a person is being sex trafficked in Texas, the age of consent does not apply, as the act of sex trafficking itself is a criminal offense.
@@salemworld86 Is prostitution illegal in Texas? If not, where's the crime? You just cannot presume that he was aware that she was underage and exploited by a Pimp.
Chef Doug shouldn't have been buying prostitutes in the first place. And, if what they say is true, he had the nerve to complain about the girl wanting him to use protection. He decided to fight over his right to a refund of a transaction that was illegal in the first place. He just left a club or party and didn't have enough game and finesse to meet a woman there and bring her home. Instead, he decided to go on seedy back page and roll the dice. It is shocking that he didn't have AIDS, Herpes or Syphilis doing that kind of activity. Bottom line, don't do illegal activity and you better your chances of survival. There is no honor among thieves. The people you're doing crime with have no loyalty to you. You're all shady people, just some more shady than others.
@@candicedarbyfox7524 My theory is that it wasn't over money but the victim was worried she'd be arrested (hence her "I was scared" ' comment) Doug probably bragged about being in the military how beloved he is and definitely could of taken that guy Attempted to blackmail both into accepting his offer or he'll go to the police and used "Who do you think they'll believe you two strung out addicts and prostitutes or a military vet with honors with a successful catering business?" To make them comply Since it's worked with others, his killer waiting til he was walking away then shot him in the back Since he was found shot in the back it kinda gives my theory some credibility because that guy wasn't gonna take a big and tall marine and live And guarantee hes been paying prostitutes and pimps for years (his sister even said it's been going on for 37 days) And usually pimps who trafficking teenagers or adults won't risk killing someone unless they're new at it which we know the killer was which is why he was shocked when he was told he was gonna be arrested for sex trafficking because he probably started in sex trafficking not too long ago
Sex trafficking is defined by the Trafficking Victims Protection Act of 2000 as “the recruitment, harboring, transportation, provision, obtaining, patronizing, or soliciting of a person for the purpose of a commercial sex act.” So he was indeed a sex trafficker. Not only was he paying her for sex, he wanted to go beyond what she was consenting to, so he was trying to assault her as well.
If a 15, 16, “17” year old can be held as an adult for murder murder than why not sex with murder and cover up, hypocrites? Let all teen aged murderers/sex crimes no matter then circumstance OR GENDER be let free and come to live with all those that think all things are black or white. 😂
To the victims sister, the underage girl IS A VICTIM‼️ Also, your bro is to blame as well cause he should not have been involved in sexual acts with an underage girl. Hold him accountable as well. TF
That minor isn’t a sex worker, she’s a human trafficking victim. I understand the chef’s sister is hurt but YOU DO NOT VICTIM BLAME! The chef didn’t deserve that, he did do something terrible though.
@Karl-dd4om Age of consent in any state is null & void when sex trafficking is involved. Being trafficked for sex is a crime regardless of the age of the victim. Sex trafficking involves exploiting individuals through force, fraud, or coercion for the purpose of commercial sex acts, and it is illegal under both STATE and FEDERAL law. Therefore, if a person is being sex trafficked in Texas or any state, the age of consent does not apply, as the act of sex trafficking itself is a criminal offense.
@@Karl-dd4om He did commit a crime regardless of her age. Sex trafficking is defined by the Trafficking Victims Protection Act of 2000 as “the recruitment, harboring, transportation, provision, obtaining, patronizing, or soliciting of a person for the purpose of a commercial sex act.”
@lancestone4409 She had no pimp. It was a robbery setup. The bf had no idea she was going to flip on him. She lived at home with her parents , and she returned to following the murder. She isn't a victim at all. There's more information out here about this case. They thought they could use a self-defense claim in stating he tried to violate her, but the bf didn't know she was going to claim he trafficked her.
He was a trick with an underage girl forcing her to do some thing she didn’t want to do and then didn’t even want to pay for it….he didn’t deserve the ultimate price but hard to feel that bad for him
@@LaLagunz187 yes she did and looked like she realized she was just re routing her anger but deep down she knows it was not just her fault I am sure so a bit sad she still needs to throw that blame. And the boyfriend had guns....the kid lived in fear I am sure.
@@danamama6766 100% agree, and she has every right to feel how she does. It's easy for us to judge without bias, but we aren't the ones who have to love that nightmare. I couldn't imagine looking at my brother's killers and thinking anything good, and 17 is a kid but not far from an adult and the sister saw a young woman instead of a girl. Mind you she still has to unpack that her brother was soliciting not only prostitutes, but underage ones off Backpage. That's even if he actually knew how young she was. I'm not sure why he would think a 17yr old would be having ADs on craigslist. Im still trying to give him the benefit of the doubt
Drugs don't descriminate, people do. The reason people are so shocked by all these people being on drugs is because they always expect it to look a certain way.
Im black and ill tell you the communitys mindset is they are NEVER guilty. Im sure it happens in others but this is mine snd i know it very well and wont lie. No matter what you do, you are always a good person and life is harder on you because of your skin. Any choices you made whether it be not finishing school or commiting a murder is because your black. Thats generally the mindset ror everything's not for all but for a large majority. Thats why most i can even speak to, its like talking to a brick 🧱 walls and asking it to move. No acceptance of responsibility and therfor no changes 🤷 just a never ending cycle. Its sad really cause you always hope for more but growing up in it you realize your waste 100 lifetimes. You can only deal with people who WANT change and as much as they scream they do I know most arent actually willing to do it because it would take admitting faults.
If a 16 year old shoots and kills your child or your mother tomorrow, are you going to give them "grace" if they claim to uave a sob story after being caught? 👀🤡
@@TomikaKelly - Right! Everyone's a victim until they get caught. She is 16 and knows right from wrong and Dana is well within her right to not forgive her for her part in disposing of her brother's body because I know I wouldn't, victim or not!!
Dana's brother NOT being 16 also knew right from wrong!!! What if a grown man abused his power on your family member, underage or not!!! Think about what you're saying 🤦🏽
In the Chef Doug case not trying to victim shame but why leave a club full of grown women to pay for a 17 year old girl escort… things to make you go hmmm 🤔
@@757Princess it seemed like God took the real victim out of the situation and took men like this out of that young child’s life to be 16 and forced to do sex work is a crying shame and God said enough….for the sister at least she made it so you could bury your brother and told you were he was people need to understand that’s still a child
Exactly..but he wanted some baby kitty some baby meow..yet the sister doesn't see anything wrong with that. Victim blaming she should be ashamed of herself. Her brother shouldn't have been out there doing underaged girls.
That 16 year old can't think like a adult,she had to be scared 😳 of the guy she was with,the guy that got killed shouldn't have been TRICKING with a little girl
So she is a black male worshipper because she is angry about her brother being killed by a person he didn’t know? I’m not sure if people know how back page works……………I’m pretty sure you don’t know the prostitutes you are calling up. Sort of like the strip club……………most times, you don’t know the strippers or their ages. AND, AND……..strippers can lie about themselves, just like prostitutes. My cousin jameisha would lie to grown men all the time about her age when we were growing up. So in that situation, is it her fault or theirs? How can you know what you never knew? * Most black women really are angry at men when they are alone. With that thinking, I better not cry if any black male I know dies, that could be considered worshiping
She’s the literal definition of a victim. Your brother might have been a good cook and an ex marine but he was a pervert first and foremost ma’am. If the tables were turned and she was your niece or daughter your tune would be so different.
For those saying the chef didn’t do anything wrong: Sex trafficking is defined by the Trafficking Victims Protection Act of 2000 as “the recruitment, harboring, transportation, provision, obtaining, patronizing, or soliciting of a person for the purpose of a commercial sex act.” Not only was he trafficking her, he attempted to sexually assault her when he tried to go beyond the acts she had consented to. Great guy.
The girl alleges that he attempted to sexually assault her. However, that has not been proven. In fact, we don't even know if he solicited sex from her at all; maybe he was helping her and her boyfriend with something that had nothing to do with sex, but they attempted to rob him and killed him in the process.
14:35 lady are you nuts? She was a child and she was TRAFFICKED!!! She’s absolutely a victim, and your brother helped to victimize her. Travon wasn’t her boyfriend, he was her pimp.
this is why man needs to find a woman he loves and marry her. a married man with a wife with accountability and support will not call a sex worker at 3am in the morning.
I would see clips here and there about Chef Doug, but not this detailed on how he died. Now that I know how he died, I have absolutely no sympathy for him or his family. He was a pedophile that preyed on young girls and knowingly had sex with them. This wasn’t his first time and to blame the victim is vile.
He knew that girl was young, that's what he was meeting up with her in haunted houses. Even if he did decide to do something strange with some change, you don't just go to people's houses, you don't know, you go to a hotel. He died because he's cheap, he wouldn't pay for a room and didn't want to pay for services.
High schoolers consent to having sex every day... There was an entire series, 16 and Pregnant, that followed minors who consented. It's difficult to verify the validity of her trafficking story, but what it isn't difficult to verify is that she was, in fact, an accomplice to murder after the fact and that she did stay quiet about it for 37 days.
@@BagBaby False. 16 is the age of consent in Michigan and there is no law on age difference. She could sleep with a 50 year old if she wants to. See this link and see for yourself: aspe.hhs.gov/reports/statutory-rape-guide-state-laws-reporting-requirements-1
@JamesDeWalt909Thousands of women who do it out of desperation or because they are being forced into it, not only women but children as well. You should inform yourself about sex trafficking.
You can be both a victim AND a perpetrator, "pEri0d". 🙄 She was BOTH. She was an accomplice to murder after the fact. She went home instead of to a police station after helping to move his body.
@@TomikaKellyif trafficking was involved than it's important to take into account the possibility that she faced coercion and feared reprisals from the pimp... which is probably why she didn't come forward.
We have a problem in this country. We have no difficulty labeling a child a child when they are murdered. However, when a sex crime is involved everyone wants to know more facts before classifying the child as a victim or a predator. Crime Watch referred to this child as a "Young Woman"---that was deliberate. Our country is sick and perverted and our children are not safe.
A lack of accountability from the family. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. This girl was the victim of both those men. If she was their daughter, sister, cousin, etc, they’d be singing a different song. Sorry for their loss, but he was wrong.
I don't care what someone does for a living. People from all walks of life have been caught doing inappropriate things with kids. People need to stop acting like people who "serve" the country are some kind of gods. It's just a job, like any other job. They get paid and have benefits. People who try to compare them to the real armies of war that actually had to fight so their loved ones wouldn't get murdered or sexually assaulted without pay and benefits... I guarantee none of them would serve for free with no benefits like the real soldiers did back then.
his first mistake was going inside a house off of backpage at 3 in the morn. his second mistake was getting into a confrontation in someone's house he doesnt know from a can of paint. his final mistake taking it outside instead of taking his loss and got the hell out of there.
What loss? He was arguing about not being able to have unprotected X with an underaged girl who was being forced to be with him. The sister wants to talk about the choice that child had? She wasn't the criminal in this, her brother was. Grow up.
I get his sister loves her brother but.. to be mad at a teen who was being sex trafficked? Really? You wouldn’t even know what happened had she not been honest. Imagine how terrified she was to tell the police after watching her pimp kill a man over what $100? Seriously tho. That’s messed up. You should be mad at your brother for messing around with buying sex and the people you have to interact with in that situation. Be mad he wanted to pay a teen for sex. Seriously. Be mad he put himself in that situation for a teenager that’s pedo shit. Come on.
Do we know for a fact that he definitely knew she was underage? You can be both a victim AND a perpetrator. She was BOTH. She was an accomplice to murder after the fact. She went home instead of to a police station after helping to move his body.
@@TomikaKelly and so was chef Doug. He can be a victim and a perpetrator as well can’t he. And furthermore.. human brains aren’t fully developed until 25.. I wonder what kind of situation one would have to be in to find themselves being sex trafficked.. especially as a young girl.. not good. Doug here was a successful adult not being forced by a man with a gun to have sex with strange grown as men.
@@TomikaKelly and what do you think she thought would happen to her if she went to the police..? Her “boyfriend” aka her pimp killed a grown ass huge man over $100 blow job. What would he do to her for snitching on him for murder seriously put yourself in her shoes. For real. She ended up doing the smartest thing which was get immunity first.
Regarding the fentanyl segment… What’s really insane is when an addict hears about somebody overdosing on a suppliers’ dope… They actually WANT THAT specific dope!! The fact that somebody overdosed on that particular heroin makes it more appealing to an addict. Just goes to show how the mind works when somebody is deep in addiction. And I’m speaking from experience… I’ve been clean almost 4 years.
@@jenniferthompson6280 nahhhh… it’s because to an addict, the thought process would be something like this: “that shit John od’d on must be some really, reeeeeeally good dope! Got to get me some of THAT!” An addict isn’t trying to subconsciously die, we just want the best, most strongest dope available. You see, in our minds we rationalize by saying: “Well ok, ‘John’ may have overdosed on that dealer’s shit, but it won’t happen to ME, cuz I just won’t take as much per dose.” See what I mean? When an addict is deep into their addiction… We don’t think clearly. We just comprehend the fact that there’s some really good dope going around… SO good that somebody od’d on it as being a good thing, instead of a very bad and dangerous thing. Again, I do speak from experience. I’ll be honest and say that much. I was able to turn my life around, go back to law school and finish what I began because I had very good, patient, and loving people in my support system. I think God for them every day, and I also do my best to help other addicts that I meet, because I understand them. Thank you for responding. :-)
They want it because it's stronger for the same price and they can do less at a time. Not because they want to OD. People were typically dying because they were getting heroin not realizing it was or had been mixed with fent.
He was 39 and died arguing about having unprotected sex with a teenage girl who'd been sex-trafficked? Why do I get the impression that he was probably travelling around regularly looking for this fetish and eventually it cost him his life and we're supposed to feel sympathy for him? I feel for his victim!
of course. same way it begins it ends.
Word up!!
Did he for sure know that she was underage? Why didn't she go to the police instead of going home after the murder?
@@TomikaKelly Inevitably, a victim-blamer turns up in my replies. She was a sex-trafficked teenage girl under the control of a pimp who'd just shot someone to death over $100 right in front of her!
Do some research into the impact of abusive relationships upon the psychological state of girls and women. Pimps are experts in maintaining exploitative situations through manipulation and control and through violence, fear and mental abuse.
In court she detailed the violence that he inflicted against her and during sentencing the judge said that he'd enslaved her.
Blame abusers, not their victims.
Well you heard it from the horse's mouth... You don't want to work for the white man.
I believe that's why the prisons are overflowing.
That's just me.
SHE WAS 16 AND PIMPED OUT: THATS a victim Ma'am.
They talk about him like he's some angel.🙄 He was out molesting kids ma'am!!🤦🏽♀️ *Black Male Worshipping* is a dangerous character trait to possess!
How would he know!
@@Karl-dd4ommisogynist
@Karl-dd4om by not participating in human trafficking, which is well known many are children.
@@sssttt90 exactly!
' Beloved Marine' 'Shot to death after hiring underage...' Spot the problem.
It’s a sarcastic title considering his family act like he didn’t do anything
exactly what I was thinking. His family is a clown troop.
Did he know she was underaged?
@@biggordo482 giving she was 17 she more then likely was telling her John’s she was early 20’s
Not to defend him, but nothing in the actual story indicated that he knew she was underaged. But if he knew, then I don't feel sorry for him. I kind of don't anyway. He was taken out arguing over wanting to go raw with a working girl, and you know he likely had women that he slept around with without needing to pay for it, meaning he could have been spreading disease around.
If they’re “underage”, THEY ARE NOT A SEX WORKER!!!!!!
For real. Journalists using this type of misuse of language seems like they want to normalize this sort of evil.
The age of consent in Michigan is 16. So it's not a case of underage.
@@andreabennington Morally questionable lawfully legal 🤷♂️
@@andreabennington and the age of consent is 1 day old in some lawless countries?? 16 is a child in my definition. I am sorry you feel otherwise.
@andreabennington In the Bible belt, it's younger than 16. The evangelicals are so quiet about it.
Both men were predators, and the fact that the sister is placing blame on a child turns my stomach. In my opinion the trash took itself out. I’m glad that the little girl is free. Next!
She prob still doing it
I came here to say just this. She has some nerve.
Typical in this community,the dudes are coddled and are exempt of all accountable from both 👨🏾🦱👩🏽.
Girl set it all up
@IllObserveAndReport, I love your post. You are absolutely 💯 right. It's disgusting how this collective of people 👨🏿👩🏿 conduct themselves. I make it a point to have minimal interaction with these people.
He lost his life over $50. Smdh. On top of that she was clearly a child and he still wanted to get down. His family is sick and in denial. Smdh
Exactly.
Crime Watch Daily and Chris Hansen are ok with it. They want us to sympathize with him. Yet throw other men who chased after imaginary fake underage kids they create in a vacuum into prison.
Exactly like it’s sick and knowing you have nieces around that age as well then your definitely sick
That's the story... You know they use fake pictures on those ads right? Why would you post your minor in their so the feds can easily have reason to pull up on you? 🤦🏻♂️🤣 This was HER story. Most likely they just flat out set him up. They literally stole everything on him.
🎯🎯🎯😒🥴
I don’t care how old a teenage girl may look. As soon as they talk for 3+ min, you know you’re dealing with a teenager and not an adult.
He didn’t go to talk to
@@GrapesodaorExactly. She was sexually objectified. So, no long extensive conversations.
???
The average modern women sounds like a 12yo.
Lies
I’m also a former Marine! However I have absolutely no sympathy for a pervert
Exactly
Well said, Simper Fi
💯 One thing is for certain for real men is that we know if she’s a female or not and if she’s of age! I don’t give passes to dudes that get caught with transmissions or underage girls!
You have no heart
@@LilXancheX no heart for a sick pervert
Beloved marine and underage in the same sentence is wild. We dont claim people like this in the corps smh
That's what I thought 2,
Who are you kidding? The U.S military earned its reputation and status off grape, robbery and murder
Exactly everybody only want to look at the fact that he was killed not the fact that he was paying to sleep with underage girls
Sure y’all do. The military is full of degenerates hiding in plain sight!
Doesn't seem like he knew she was underage. Seems like they were trying to shake him and it may have gone wrong.
I'm sick of his sister painting Chef Doug out to be some upstanding hero. He was tricking with underage girls in abject poverty. I remember this case, great police work, but in all honesty, I dont have sympathy for Doug. At his age, he should have been settled down with a woman his age & not exploiting teen girls. 🤬🤬
Was it ever confirmed that he definitely knew that she was underage?
@@TomikaKellyhe knew. Stop playing the fool.
@semplybalanced3210 you ain't lying. It's an instinct that alerts our brain to place someone in an age category 🤷🏽♀️ that's why alot of older people get compliments if they "look" good for their age.
@@TomikaKellyR kelly stop the bs
I just commented something similar… it’s an epidemic nowadays, a lot of “red pill” successful black males don’t want to get married, let alone to someone around their age. It’s sick… but at the end, it doesn’t work out.
Even if they don’t end up like Doug, they end up like one of my uncles… he was married treated his wife horribly, divorced, played the field for years BUT ended up getting sick. Was found basically passed out alone in his apartment. He’s alive but very sick and needy. Always begging people to cook him homemade food and spend time with him. Now if he would have settled down and stayed with his wife, he wouldn’t be begging for company and home cooked meals. Sad
That poor young girl being taken advantage of by 2 grown ass men sickens me, no F's given for Doug
Poor run away half of all blakkk women got hard luck story for there bad decisions.
Poor young girl? I seriously doubt that. If she killed someone, they would try her as an adult. If she had sex with someone older, then suddenly she's a child, an innocent victim. Prosecutors want to have it both ways and they get it.
@@jasonx-ray3921why are there so many of you creeps in the comments
@@vettech_ I'm not. Women just do not like to be held accountable for their actions that get them into bad situations. Women do not like to be held accountable for ANYTHING.
@@jasonx-ray3921. Why should she be accountable for the actions of two grown men? Y’all stay talking about accountability. Where is yours? Yall want women to take the blame for how yall behave? Are you serious? 😅😴🚮
His family's reaction tells me everything I need to know about how he was raised and how he felt entitled to have sex with a broken, manipulated little girl
Little criminals that lie and play victim.
@@bryangman1975 another pdfile. A 16 yo is a traffikd victim. You are the problem
@@bryangman1975 what do u think this 16 yr old looked like she was 25? talked like she was 25? It is not hard to spot a child even if the child lies. likely cant drive either, drives like crap, has no money. dozens of possible red flags. Doubt this sex workers pimp gave her much. she was prob pretty much a sex slave, not a sex "worker". She too young for this crap. Even if she was of age, prostitution is illegal. a prestigous guy like a man in uniform serving his country should be able to easily find a woman his own age. Why pay for it when you got titles like that?? because he knew she was under age and he is lying about not knowing her age. it is obvious. This marine chef was evil and he deserves what he got for exploiting a child.
Why are you playing defense on a pedophile? I am all for murrica and respecting our men in uniform, but even monsters can wear uniforms. 1 bad apple doesnt ruin the whole bunch for me but he was a bad apple. Freaking evil to even want to do this. You definitely are the problem for defending a pedo.
@@bryangman1975 in retrospect u might be talking about the marine chefs family. The adjective little makes it seem like ur defending the pedo because the marine definately aint little, nor is his family who raised him little. They are all grown adults who are not innocent or little. They are all grown and big enough to know better.
@@johnripper683 understand what you're even talking about that girl is not little. pedo means before puberty
So this creep is a predator but a bunch of teary eyed people are talking about his salads and how he used to "light up a room"? Disgusting. That poor girl.
That girl should be in prison for life. No one forced her to stay but she chose to
@@ceoatcrystalsoft4942
UNBELIEVABLE that so many idiots will make instant judgements with none of the circumstances in the case.
I’m objective and I read that the girl had lived with scumbag Trayvon for more than a year and her family had tried to get her to come back home but she chose to stay of her own free will time and again.
What do people think that when guys (not myself) hire women for sexual acts at 4 in the morning drunk that they carry out stringent ID checks and background checks on them lol?😂
IF he knew her and knew the situation before hand then I have no sympathy but I’m not aware that this is the case.
All the “Poor girl” comments lol like she didn’t try and cover up the murder at first.
It was only due to experienced and excellent Police interrogators that managed to break her after 7 hours of bullshit!
That girl then asked for complete immunity which is rare in a case where she had gone to great lengthlengths to to initially cover up the crime but also then prevented the investigation.
Strange she knew EXACTLY where the body was without actually setting foot in that garage which tells me she helped put him in there because there is no way Trayvon the scumsucker lifted that guy into a dumpster alone.
The man who SAed me when I was little died a few years ago, and people, all of whom know what he did to me, still sing his praises like he was an angel sent straight from heaven.
@@ceoatcrystalsoft4942she was being sex trafficked she could not leave, and I don’t think most 16yo being trafficked have many places to go
They probably violated her as well or some other kid
He tried to force a CHILD to have UNprotected sex, and then became upset when the CHILD refused.
She never said she was a child when she lured him there
@@ceoatcrystalsoft4942 really?
@@ceoatcrystalsoft4942It doesn't matter, he put himself in that situation. All he had to do was walk away. He got oral sex that should have been it when she said no. Why would he want unprotected sex from a sex worker any way. That's dangerous because of all these diseases out here. He lived a wreck less and paid for it with his life being taken . No he didn't deserve to die but he should have left.
@@ceoatcrystalsoft4942Exactly!
@@ceoatcrystalsoft4942if he wasn’t trying to buy ass he wouldn’t have been in such a position in the first place, play stupid games and I promise you’ll get a comparable prize
As a navy vet, I hate when people use military service to get respect regardless of wrongdoing. That man didn't deserve to die but he needed punishment had he lived because he was assaulting a minor. His family needs to recognize that through the grief.
Thank you for your service ❤🙏🏽.
The proper due diligence would be to research the age of consent law for Michigan.... age 16 is the legal age for sexual consent in Michigan
I mean did he know her age? Unless they can prove you knew her age then 🤷🏽♂️
@@joesphclifton9730There is no indication that he did, but men(and women) shouldn’t be having sex outside of marriage! If he was saving his self as a holy temple for God he wouldn’t have fell prey to these perverted demonic sexual society that plagues mankind and esp the black community!
@@microlithic8354. It don’t matter. It’s nasty all around. From the unprotected request to arguing over $50. No wonder why these girls stay away from these types of guys in that business. These specific group of men be soo stingy. Be wanting the most for nothing instead of just investing time into an actual relationship. Stingy folks 🤮🤮
A predator got killed during an illegal transaction. His accolades do not matter here; man had a whole other side to him. As they say, "you die looking like the decisions you've made".
Interesting quote
Well spoken 👏
She was forced into prostitution at age 16 and witnessed a murder but some how she's not a victim.
Interesting logic.
She's definitely a victim, but she IS ALSO a perpetrator. She didn't just "wItNeSs" a murder, she was an accomplice after the fact helping to move the deceased's body and not reporting anything to the police.
Not to mention the "victim" was engaging in seeking under age prostitutes, the cooking angel that he was. BS. Another episode he may have wound up on a couch in front of Chris Hansen with some BBQ, beer, and rubbers. Come on people.
You know how yall are at 16. Stop playing
She was an accomplice and wasn't forced to do it. She could have left any time but chose to stay
It was a set-up. Simple.
PEOPLE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO STOP SAYING " UNDER AGE SEX WORKERS "... THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO SUCH THING... THEY ARE CALLED RAPE VICTIMS... PERIOD !!!!!!!!
All sex workers are rape victims. It's not just like any job.
U know how they do it they say certain words and phrases to normalize it
True, plus if they are underage, they are a child
Exactly
Notice only men say that. To normalize it and victim blame.
I followed this him on IG prior to his death. Once the truth came out it really upset me how his sister ignored the fact that he was a creep.
Same! I was shocked and shook when I found out what happened and WHY. He had a nice the girls age he was soliciting from. Knowing what he did had my mind all over the place. So disturbing.
@@naiapaiaful There's nothing wrong with inter-generational relationships. It was wrong of him to do what she didn't want to do.
@aiojcxs0932czxlkm
Bro, if she was underage, then yes it is! That'd why he's dead!
Let that weirdo think that. He'll eff around and find out!@@SteelerzReignSupremeII
He would be alive if he wasn’t trying to solicit unprotected sex from a minor. I love my family, but trying to sleep with a child whether they are willing or unwilling is disgusting! I would never blame the child blame the grown person!!!!!!!
I know his family is upset but the girl was being pimped out at age 16. She was the first victim.
True that woman is blinded
Two things can exist at the same time. You can be both a victim AND a perpetrator. Being first to the victim Olympics doesn't make you any less of a criminal.
@@TomikaKellyShe was being sex trafficked by a murderer, you can’t be serious
@@TomikaKelly 16 year old girl is a kid, a child. She didn't kill the guy. She helped hide the body and such but she didn't shoot him. He didn't deserve to die but he had no business getting a BJ then sex from a minor, cmon people...
She chose to be there. She could have left anytime but choose to do this
The sister said the minor wasn’t a victim? Her brother was a popular chef. I’m sure he could take his pick of women. He chose an underage girl to take advantage of, then tried to take further advantage of her by shortchanging her over 50 piddly dollars. Her brother played a stupid game and won the ultimate stupid prize.
He didn’t know the man was there. Wonder what would have happened if the boyfriend wasn’t there🤔. Horrible to die with everyone knowing your dirty little secrets
I agree if the facts support that scenario however there is (as always) a lot of knee jerk reaction and assumptions being made in the comments when we don’t know the exact circumstances.
I’m just being objective here, did the Chef know these people previously or has he maybe just got home buzzzed and rung a number on the internet??
If he knew ahead of time who she was and the situation well I’d have little or no sympathy however we don’t know this.
We don’t have the Chef and former Marines version remember ONLY the scumbag killer and his girlfriend who they say is trafficked (due to her age) but I did read that there was serious doubt raised about this and that she lived with this guy of her own free will.
As bad as it all sounds for the marine let’s not forget he was shot in the back and put in a dumpster and then dumped for the sake of 50 bucks.
Try telling the difference between a girl who’s 17 and a girl who’s 18 or even 21 when you’re drunk.
He likely wouldn’t have known the age of the woman but if he did that’s not good.
I had to laugh at Trayvon the scumsuckers reaction to those charges lmao!😂
“Yeah I murdered a guy in cold blood so what? Yeah I shot him in the back like a true coward so what? Yeah I put his body in a dumpster and threw him away like trash so what?
Yeah I’m a cold blooded, disturbed and sick individual and you can call me a murderer or an evil killer but don’t EVER say I trafficked an underage woman!”😱
That’s outrageous!!!😂🤣
He probably had multiple women his age, no excuse for being this shortsighted at his age and risking his brand over some tail 😳 Lust is a real spirit 😔
The girl was underaged whether she lived with her boyfriend or not. Her boyfriend victimized her and the chef victimized her. But in this world women and girls are marginalized and always treated as though they are the power-brokers and the guilty when someone (a man) gets hurt or killed. Women and girls the world over are powerless when up against males. This is a fact, period.
@@garethtaylor1470no matter what you are saying HE SHOULDNT HAVE BEEN TRYING TO BUY SEX. He got the number from back page he didn’t even live in that area so no he didn’t just stumble across a number to a pizza parlor that he wouldn’t even see a listing for. He wanted some ass and rather than finding a respectable woman to get it from he wanted to pay for it and tried to refuse payment which resulted in his death he gambled with his life for nothing this wasn’t his first rodeo he asked to have unprotected sex and a person child or not and it didn’t end the way he expected
Chef Doug’s family is blaming the child being trafficked instead of their relative who died arguing about the price of unprotected sex.
a girl running away with her boyfriend who says away to make money and she agrees is not traficking thats all willing lmao
wait he went to the hood to try to force an under age girl to have unprotected relations and we should mourn him
Of course he was a pillar of the community the fact he even had a job and was in the marines lmaoo
@@sweatergod5386 where's your trailer park?
At 14:33 "She's not a victim as far as im concerned she was selling herself", shit your brother was buying it.
Yep he risked it and lost his life
🎉facts
Right she was a child.
I don't think she was trafficked. I think it was a set-up for a robbery.
A "victim" that murders a potential "criminal" who then robs/steals from them, moves the body, commits CC fraud, tries to cover up the murder, etc is definitely a murder suspect also. She never stated she was forced to help dispose or cover up the murder.
Why is the title written like we are supposed to feel bad for him wtf
Bait click. Then the family although we know they miss their loved one they need to get their heads out of their a**es. You brother/son was as horrible as they come and his bs caught up with him. My family was correct. There are quite a lot of horrible crazy people serving in the military. That is why he keeps his head down and do what he does.
@@imhereforitall9218 my sister who served for almost 20 told me the same thing. The military is where the real psychopaths go to get their lives to improve, but it never does.
Have you seen the Family's reaction LMAO Acting though he was a regular Joe LMAO
idk? I didn't even feel like it was. weird u thought that
Because she lied about her age. It does not state anywhere that the backpage ad stated she was underage.
Yo Report This Video! If They Are Glorifying Evil Behavior and Silencing Victims it is a HATE CRIME
If she’s not a victim bcs she was selling herself, he’s not a victim for participating in her being trafficked. Dude was paying an underage girl for sex and he still wanted to violate her boundaries. Yeah, great guy.
She’s the criminal
@@pale_saint she was a victim of trafficking. He was one of her victimizers🤷♀️ just bcs he ended up dead, doesn’t mean he didn’t commit a crime too
@JamesDeWalt909 the definition of trafficking proves that wrong. 🤷♀️
@JamesDeWalt909 yeah, no. You clearly don’t know what the definition of trafficking is. Sex trafficking is defined by the Trafficking Victims Protection Act of 2000 as “the recruitment, harboring, transportation, provision, obtaining, *patronizing, or soliciting* of a person for the purpose of a commercial sex act.”
So no. She was the victim of trafficking and he was patronizing and soliciting sexual services. Just say you don’t know what trafficking is and go. It’s ok not to know.
@JamesDeWalt909lots of women die when trying to leave their pimp and they are usually forced and manipulated into getting involved in the sex trafficking she was a literal teenager getting controlled by a grown ass man
It’s the same thing as a child molester convincing a little kid that committing sexual acts on them is ok and to go along with it and hide it 🙄
The way they were speaking so positive about this dude in the beginning I had to re-read the title and make sure I read it right.
Exactly
Thank you. Because they talk about this 17 year selling herself, but they don't accept the fact that this " good man " went to that house to pay her for oral sex, and wanted more... 🙄🙄 I'm sorry, but if he was such a good man, why was he there trying to get laid for money??? Sickening 🤮🤮
Play stupid games......
Welcome to the black community. Black men who do the bare minimum of finding a stable job will always have hordes of women defending every disgusting thing they do to the women and children they hurt.
Frfr same here lol
Another predator off the planet - sounds like justice was served.
Lmao they really put "beloved military chef" in the title instead of "pedophile" 💀💀💀
This family is in denial, this so called respected grown man was paying for sex with an underage girl and yet the underage girl is in the wrong. Ridiculous…. A lot of predators are out there wholf dress on sheep clothing
It’s “a wolf in sheep’s clothing”
What’s a “wholf”?
The AA community celebrate dysfunctional behavior and it glorifies criminals.
Legal age of consent in Texas is 17 and 16 in Michigan. Again it's the boyfriends fault.
@@DrNurse2 It's the girls fault. This was a robbery murder setup. That wasn't their house. I doubt they did anything sexual tbh. The girl lying on her bf too. She's getting away with murder.
I don’t understand why a man who seemed to have everything and “the life of the party” couldn’t find a woman that would do all that for free?
Greed
A lot of black men issues is thinking with the little head instead of the big head, I’m still working on it
@@MrETOWN82 get you a good woman and settle down
@@Peace2dagawdz ur right
@@MrETOWN82 good luck 🍀
As a veteran, I must say…. Stop glorifying people just because of their military service when they do stuff like this. There’s no point in fighting for freedom if you’re also going to partake in HUMAN TR4FICKING. Seriously, get a grip
Thank you for your service.
@@me-pz5yi 🤓 thanks for your support
In my opinion you aren’t any better veteran. Thats the wrong attitude to have. You never suppose to belittle anybody what he chose to do outside the service was wild but I don’t be with the trashing other military people you sound the the chiefs that go around hazing junior sailors that don’t rank up fast enough
He died as a result of his sins. He voluntarily went THERE to PAY for sex. He’s not the saint his family makes him out to be. 😡
A beloved ex-Marine doesn't ring true in this story. Many people are not as 'squeaky clean' as their families think they are.
Exactly! I wondering if all his traveling for catering was the only thing going on🤔😐 sounds like he definitely had a lot of skeletons in his closet
Exactly, as a human being he made a bad choice.
Trying to get quick nut cost him his life.
He had a family that loved him
@@EMT_RickSo do a lot of people, but that doesn’t mean you go around sleeping with underage girls in sex trafficking, I mean you can literally tell she’s underage.
So let me get this straight. His family wants her to get the death penalty. No holding him accountable for trying to cohorts a minor into unprotected sex? Yeah he shouldn’t have died but he did put himself in that position to die especially after arguing with some random pimp
This!! These sex rings almost exclusively rely on underaged run aways. If he was making real money why not use escort service. Trying to save money as a pervert.
The age of consent in Texas is 17!
@@Karl-dd4omShe is 16!!! Still a minor! And 17 is still a CHILD!💯 She was sex trafficking her.💯 And it's interesting how BM calls a 24 yr old basketball player, who IMPREGNATED multiple women, a boy and child but call girls 14 and up adults. she is still a child.💯 Stop calling black girls grown women when she is NOT!
@@Karl-dd4om Yes in Texas, the legal age of consent is 17. In Michigan, it's 16. However, being trafficked for sex is a crime regardless of the age of the victim. Sex trafficking involves exploiting individuals through force, fraud, or coercion for the purpose of commercial sex acts, and it is illegal under both state and federal law. Therefore, if a person is being sex trafficked in Texas, the age of consent does not apply, as the act of sex trafficking itself is a criminal offense.
@@salemworld86 Is prostitution illegal in Texas? If not, where's the crime? You just cannot presume that he was aware that she was underage and exploited by a Pimp.
Sooooo i’m supposed to feel bad for a predator? Ummm no way
What kind of delusional family is this. It's sad, but if he was not paying for sex from a child.... he would not be dead.
Chef Doug shouldn't have been buying prostitutes in the first place. And, if what they say is true, he had the nerve to complain about the girl wanting him to use protection. He decided to fight over his right to a refund of a transaction that was illegal in the first place. He just left a club or party and didn't have enough game and finesse to meet a woman there and bring her home. Instead, he decided to go on seedy back page and roll the dice. It is shocking that he didn't have AIDS, Herpes or Syphilis doing that kind of activity. Bottom line, don't do illegal activity and you better your chances of survival. There is no honor among thieves. The people you're doing crime with have no loyalty to you. You're all shady people, just some more shady than others.
He probably could have met WOMEN, he just didn't want to, he was more interested in CHILDREN. Disgusting!
Well said
@@candicedarbyfox7524Thank you. 😊
@@candicedarbyfox7524
My theory is that it wasn't over money but the victim was worried she'd be arrested (hence her "I was scared" ' comment)
Doug probably bragged about being in the military how beloved he is and definitely could of taken that guy
Attempted to blackmail both into accepting his offer or he'll go to the police and used "Who do you think they'll believe you two strung out addicts and prostitutes or a military vet with honors with a successful catering business?" To make them comply
Since it's worked with others, his killer waiting til he was walking away then shot him in the back
Since he was found shot in the back it kinda gives my theory some credibility because that guy wasn't gonna take a big and tall marine and live
And guarantee hes been paying prostitutes and pimps for years (his sister even said it's been going on for 37 days)
And usually pimps who trafficking teenagers or adults won't risk killing someone unless they're new at it which we know the killer was which is why he was shocked when he was told he was gonna be arrested for sex trafficking because he probably started in sex trafficking not too long ago
@@candicedarbyfox7524❤
The fact he was a marine and was indeed in the business of under age sex trafficking his honor is definitely diminished. Period. Semper fi. 💯
I think maybe you typed this before fully watching, as he was indeed a chef, not a sex trafficker.x
Sex trafficking is defined by the Trafficking Victims Protection Act of 2000 as “the recruitment, harboring, transportation, provision, obtaining, patronizing, or soliciting of a person for the purpose of a commercial sex act.” So he was indeed a sex trafficker. Not only was he paying her for sex, he wanted to go beyond what she was consenting to, so he was trying to assault her as well.
@@missmo463 That's her part of the story to get a milder sentence, unbelievable!
@@Karl-dd4om she wasn’t charged at all, so no. She didn’t need to lie to get a lighter sentence bcs there wasn’t going to be any sentence.
@@missmo463She did need to lie, because of her lie she wasn't charged!
That first guy, hard to feel particularly sorry for him.
We are really calling a child that was r worded “under age sex worker”? He’s not a Marine
And he knew she was 16? Woman at 16 look like they are 18-20 . Anyone can say they are 18 and be 16 . Looks like majority of people are low IQ on ehre
Victim blaming a child is crazy
the only victim is deceased
If a 15, 16, “17” year old can be held as an adult for murder murder than why not sex with murder and cover up, hypocrites? Let all teen aged murderers/sex crimes no matter then circumstance OR GENDER be let free and come to live with all those that think all things are black or white. 😂
No dude was a sex offender.
@@letsgobrandon8375 who was a sex offender from this video exactly? Besides the pimp?
@@Monster-ed4rp oh so he didn't meet up for sex with an underage girl?
To the victims sister, the underage girl IS A VICTIM‼️ Also, your bro is to blame as well cause he should not have been involved in sexual acts with an underage girl. Hold him accountable as well. TF
I have a question: What about underaged male drug dealers, are they victims of drug traffickers? 🤔
She’s not a victim.
@thinkinsidetheboxsquarecir3303 Yes. Could be. Alot target the youngsters
@@naimahyara Da hell she ain't
Well. R.I.P.
I hope the teen is free full circle and able to live a better life.
Goes to show you how backwards and twisted,this world has become. I have no remorse for Chef Doug!! Period!! Sicko!!
That minor isn’t a sex worker, she’s a human trafficking victim. I understand the chef’s sister is hurt but YOU DO NOT VICTIM BLAME!
The chef didn’t deserve that, he did do something terrible though.
Her brother will never pay for using illegal, underaged human trafficking victims. What’s her point?
Agree!!!
The age of consent in Texas is 17! No crime committed by the chef!
@Karl-dd4om Age of consent in any state is null & void when sex trafficking is involved. Being trafficked for sex is a crime regardless of the age of the victim. Sex trafficking involves exploiting individuals through force, fraud, or coercion for the purpose of commercial sex acts, and it is illegal under both STATE and FEDERAL law. Therefore, if a person is being sex trafficked in Texas or any state, the age of consent does not apply, as the act of sex trafficking itself is a criminal offense.
@@Karl-dd4om He did commit a crime regardless of her age. Sex trafficking is defined by the Trafficking Victims Protection Act of 2000 as “the recruitment, harboring, transportation, provision, obtaining, patronizing, or soliciting of a person for the purpose of a commercial sex act.”
"They threw him out like trash"...well he hired an underage sex worker that was being sex trafficked..if it walks like a duck..
Right are we the only ones who believe pedos are evil
Did he know she was 16?
@@yolandawilson6619she was 17 at the time of the murder and her pimp was her boyfriend.
@lancestone4409 She had no pimp. It was a robbery setup. The bf had no idea she was going to flip on him. She lived at home with her parents , and she returned to following the murder. She isn't a victim at all. There's more information out here about this case. They thought they could use a self-defense claim in stating he tried to violate her, but the bf didn't know she was going to claim he trafficked her.
Trash
$50. A man is dead over $50 and a condom. Let that sink in. Doesn't get any lower than that.
He was a trick with an underage girl forcing her to do some thing she didn’t want to do and then didn’t even want to pay for it….he didn’t deserve the ultimate price but hard to feel that bad for him
Why are we supposed to be sad for a PDFFILE
He probably didn’t know she was underage
@@mime3879he definitely knew
Actually it’s Ephebophilia which is the primary sexual interest in mid-to-late adolescents, generally ages 15 to 19.
Dont women go around telling people not to judge others...🤯
@@carnellgalloway9314you probably would do the same he did, be careful you might end up just like him.
She’s definitely a victim she was a child. The sister is definitely projecting her anger.
Guarantee she doesn't protect her own children
at least she acknowledged that
@@LaLagunz187 yes she did and looked like she realized she was just re routing her anger but deep down she knows it was not just her fault I am sure so a bit sad she still needs to throw that blame. And the boyfriend had guns....the kid lived in fear I am sure.
@@danamama6766 100% agree, and she has every right to feel how she does. It's easy for us to judge without bias, but we aren't the ones who have to love that nightmare. I couldn't imagine looking at my brother's killers and thinking anything good, and 17 is a kid but not far from an adult and the sister saw a young woman instead of a girl. Mind you she still has to unpack that her brother was soliciting not only prostitutes, but underage ones off Backpage. That's even if he actually knew how young she was. I'm not sure why he would think a 17yr old would be having ADs on craigslist. Im still trying to give him the benefit of the doubt
Drugs don't descriminate, people do. The reason people are so shocked by all these people being on drugs is because they always expect it to look a certain way.
Im black and ill tell you the communitys mindset is they are NEVER guilty. Im sure it happens in others but this is mine snd i know it very well and wont lie. No matter what you do, you are always a good person and life is harder on you because of your skin. Any choices you made whether it be not finishing school or commiting a murder is because your black. Thats generally the mindset ror everything's not for all but for a large majority. Thats why most i can even speak to, its like talking to a brick 🧱 walls and asking it to move. No acceptance of responsibility and therfor no changes 🤷 just a never ending cycle. Its sad really cause you always hope for more but growing up in it you realize your waste 100 lifetimes. You can only deal with people who WANT change and as much as they scream they do I know most arent actually willing to do it because it would take admitting faults.
Thank you for being so honest and well spoken it does not suprise me this was written by a woman
I’m sorry Dana, but you do need to give that young underage girl grace, she was an underage girl being forced to become a sex worker.
If a 16 year old shoots and kills your child or your mother tomorrow, are you going to give them "grace" if they claim to uave a sob story after being caught? 👀🤡
@@TomikaKellythe difference is, her “boyfriend” aka her pimp pretty much forced her into it.
@@TomikaKelly - Right! Everyone's a victim until they get caught. She is 16 and knows right from wrong and Dana is well within her right to not forgive her for her part in disposing of her brother's body because I know I wouldn't, victim or not!!
Dana's brother NOT being 16 also knew right from wrong!!! What if a grown man abused his power on your family member, underage or not!!! Think about what you're saying 🤦🏽
Go help the minors!
In the Chef Doug case not trying to victim shame but why leave a club full of grown women to pay for a 17 year old girl escort… things to make you go hmmm 🤔
Because he wanted an ‘affordable’ option. Real escorts are $500 hr and NOT underaged
@@757Princess it seemed like God took the real victim out of the situation and took men like this out of that young child’s life to be 16 and forced to do sex work is a crying shame and God said enough….for the sister at least she made it so you could bury your brother and told you were he was people need to understand that’s still a child
@@757Princessthat part 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Thank you. My exact thought
Exactly..but he wanted some baby kitty some baby meow..yet the sister doesn't see anything wrong with that. Victim blaming she should be ashamed of herself. Her brother shouldn't have been out there doing underaged girls.
So his friends and family aren't concerned at all about him hiring a minor for sex?
I wonder how the sister would feel if she had a teen daughter hooking up with a 30 yo man. 🤔
That 16 year old can't think like a adult,she had to be scared 😳 of the guy she was with,the guy that got killed shouldn't have been TRICKING with a little girl
That sister is a piece of work. What a mammy. Her brother also committed a crime - he is accountable for his own death.
I agree. He abused an innocent child.
I feel bad for her daughters if she has any poor things
Well people in your community normally justify and protect the crimes their min commit. It’s nothing new
wht crime? 16 is legal in mi she was 17
@@forevermotiontezthe girl was trafficked, she didn't consent
The trash took him self out!
Themselves and the state saved a girl 😢
The sister needs realize he was wicked simple
I love how they're calling her an "underage sex worker" instead of a CHILD. That's wrong, very wrong.
A child that moves bodies and Robs men that come for sex.
Respectfully, he was trash. This man was a predator and lost his life for a $50 trick off.
Of course that worshipper doesn’t think a minor girl is a victim. Never mind the fact that her brother engaged in adult acts with a minor 🙄😒
Thank you! I just said pretty much the same thing. That girl wasn’t only a victim of the boyfriend, but ALSO a victim of Dana’s brother CHEF DOUG!
He might have thought he 17 year old was 18 or older. Is there evidence that he knew her age?
He basically ordered her offline. He knew nothing about her.
Sick family. Sick community
So she is a black male worshipper because she is angry about her brother being killed by a person he didn’t know? I’m not sure if people know how back page works……………I’m pretty sure you don’t know the prostitutes you are calling up. Sort of like the strip club……………most times, you don’t know the strippers or their ages. AND, AND……..strippers can lie about themselves, just like prostitutes. My cousin jameisha would lie to grown men all the time about her age when we were growing up. So in that situation, is it her fault or theirs? How can you know what you never knew? * Most black women really are angry at men when they are alone. With that thinking, I better not cry if any black male I know dies, that could be considered worshiping
She’s the literal definition of a victim. Your brother might have been a good cook and an ex marine but he was a pervert first and foremost ma’am. If the tables were turned and she was your niece or daughter your tune would be so different.
dgaf about marine or anything. he with underaged people. foh.
For those saying the chef didn’t do anything wrong: Sex trafficking is defined by the Trafficking Victims Protection Act of 2000 as “the recruitment, harboring, transportation, provision, obtaining, patronizing, or soliciting of a person for the purpose of a commercial sex act.” Not only was he trafficking her, he attempted to sexually assault her when he tried to go beyond the acts she had consented to. Great guy.
The girl alleges that he attempted to sexually assault her. However, that has not been proven. In fact, we don't even know if he solicited sex from her at all; maybe he was helping her and her boyfriend with something that had nothing to do with sex, but they attempted to rob him and killed him in the process.
@@SaintFort lol he literally found her on backpage but ok.
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@@SaintFort and there's a bridge for sale in Brooklyn
@@SaintFortuhm, he found her on a soliciting page ??? You’re jus trying to justify that men trying to sleep with a child.
14:35 lady are you nuts? She was a child and she was TRAFFICKED!!! She’s absolutely a victim, and your brother helped to victimize her. Travon wasn’t her boyfriend, he was her pimp.
this is why man needs to find a woman he loves and marry her. a married man with a wife with accountability and support will not call a sex worker at 3am in the morning.
Lol
A predator, not a victim 🎉
Womp womp, 17 does not mean death sentence
He had no business dealing with an underage girl.
It's crazy she is excusing her brother's behavior
High level mammy energy
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Mammying 101
@@lookatyou5809 yep
Black women 😊
Can’t believe the sister said that, and you don’t know what to place with that girl feeling violated has to defend herself very scary situation
Of course they dont think shes a victim. thats a child
His family is disgusting for wanting that underaged girl to be charged. No wonder his morals were so far off.
Why can a child get a driver's license at 16!
@@Karl-dd4ommisogynists can't stop sharing they are misogynists
@JamesDeWalt909 dude stay on topic. She was a trafficking victim
@@Karl-dd4om stay on topic. We're talking about a minor being sex trafficked
Who the hell asks for $50 back. And who the hell goes to that part of town.
That part. Everything about this was nasty
Chef Doug 🔥🍳🥓
A PERVERT
Stop using military service to cover for gross behavior....
Imagine killing a man and losing your freedom over a dispute over $50. smh
I would see clips here and there about Chef Doug, but not this detailed on how he died. Now that I know how he died, I have absolutely no sympathy for him or his family. He was a pedophile that preyed on young girls and knowingly had sex with them. This wasn’t his first time and to blame the victim is vile.
Exactly
Youd hate me if you knew my old charges
@@JoseRamirez-wv3plfrom this comment alone I’m pretty sure you’re already hated especially if your behavior is worst than Chef Doug.
@@JoseRamirez-wv3pl😂😂😂
@@TheSpiritRoom23right! They sound like a rapist smh
You can’t blame a kid for being pimped out
He knew that girl was young, that's what he was meeting up with her in haunted houses. Even if he did decide to do something strange with some change, you don't just go to people's houses, you don't know, you go to a hotel. He died because he's cheap, he wouldn't pay for a room and didn't want to pay for services.
For anyone wondering, the killer got sentenced to 60-100 years in prison.
Of the sex trafficked victim??! Smh
"She was selling herself"
Ma'am, she was a minor child, unable to consent.
High schoolers consent to having sex every day... There was an entire series, 16 and Pregnant, that followed minors who consented.
It's difficult to verify the validity of her trafficking story, but what it isn't difficult to verify is that she was, in fact, an accomplice to murder after the fact and that she did stay quiet about it for 37 days.
@TomikaKelly are you dumb?? Theyre pregant by OTHER TEENS not adults 😒
@@TomikaKellyconsented with other children not adults the age of consent has restrictions still a 16 year old can’t be in relations with a 30 year old
@@BagBaby False. 16 is the age of consent in Michigan and there is no law on age difference. She could sleep with a 50 year old if she wants to. See this link and see for yourself: aspe.hhs.gov/reports/statutory-rape-guide-state-laws-reporting-requirements-1
@@TomikaKelly the facts right here.
She’s a victim…period! Sorry for this family’s loss of a loved one. The sex trafficking victim is loved and valued as well.
They should’ve raised a better man
@JamesDeWalt909Thousands of women who do it out of desperation or because they are being forced into it, not only women but children as well. You should inform yourself about sex trafficking.
You can be both a victim AND a perpetrator, "pEri0d". 🙄
She was BOTH. She was an accomplice to murder after the fact. She went home instead of to a police station after helping to move his body.
She’s not a victim. She needs to be in prison for the next 20 years.
@@TomikaKellyif trafficking was involved than it's important to take into account the possibility that she faced coercion and feared reprisals from the pimp... which is probably why she didn't come forward.
He violated a minor. No sympathy for him. 🙄 I hope that GIRL is away from whoever trafficked her and is healing.
Some teenagers are growing up too fast.This is a sad situation
Yeah. The child trafficking victim is the real predator in all that. Definitely not the 2 grown men.
🙄🙄🙄
😂😂😂
Or, hear me out, alternate title:
“Sexual Predator Murdered by Child Prey”
She didn't even kill him yet everyone is treating her like the killer
His family is in denial. He tried to “hire” an underage sex trafficking victim.
We have a problem in this country. We have no difficulty labeling a child a child when they are murdered. However, when a sex crime is involved everyone wants to know more facts before classifying the child as a victim or a predator. Crime Watch referred to this child as a "Young Woman"---that was deliberate. Our country is sick and perverted and our children are not safe.
A predator that only a family in denial could love.
A lack of accountability from the family. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. This girl was the victim of both those men. If she was their daughter, sister, cousin, etc, they’d be singing a different song. Sorry for their loss, but he was wrong.
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I don't care what someone does for a living. People from all walks of life have been caught doing inappropriate things with kids. People need to stop acting like people who "serve" the country are some kind of gods. It's just a job, like any other job. They get paid and have benefits. People who try to compare them to the real armies of war that actually had to fight so their loved ones wouldn't get murdered or sexually assaulted without pay and benefits... I guarantee none of them would serve for free with no benefits like the real soldiers did back then.
notice how he was ok with taking the murder conviction but was shocked at trafficking? most murderers dont care about no ones life not even their own
his first mistake was going inside a house off of backpage at 3 in the morn. his second mistake was getting into a confrontation in someone's house he doesnt know from a can of paint. his final mistake taking it outside instead of taking his loss and got the hell out of there.
This is the most logical comment here
His only mistake was being a child rapist.
That $50 dollars cost him WAY MORE.
What loss? He was arguing about not being able to have unprotected X with an underaged girl who was being forced to be with him. The sister wants to talk about the choice that child had? She wasn't the criminal in this, her brother was. Grow up.
Look, “those guys” don’t exactly have the highest IQ or strongest level of self control
I get his sister loves her brother but.. to be mad at a teen who was being sex trafficked? Really? You wouldn’t even know what happened had she not been honest. Imagine how terrified she was to tell the police after watching her pimp kill a man over what $100? Seriously tho. That’s messed up. You should be mad at your brother for messing around with buying sex and the people you have to interact with in that situation. Be mad he wanted to pay a teen for sex. Seriously. Be mad he put himself in that situation for a teenager that’s pedo shit. Come on.
For real. If he'd kill a man over $100 then imagine what he'd do to her?
Do we know for a fact that he definitely knew she was underage?
You can be both a victim AND a perpetrator. She was BOTH. She was an accomplice to murder after the fact. She went home instead of to a police station after helping to move his body.
@@TomikaKelly and so was chef Doug. He can be a victim and a perpetrator as well can’t he.
And furthermore.. human brains aren’t fully developed until 25.. I wonder what kind of situation one would have to be in to find themselves being sex trafficked.. especially as a young girl.. not good. Doug here was a successful adult not being forced by a man with a gun to have sex with strange grown as men.
@@TomikaKelly and what do you think she thought would happen to her if she went to the police..? Her “boyfriend” aka her pimp killed a grown ass huge man over $100 blow job. What would he do to her for snitching on him for murder seriously put yourself in her shoes. For real. She ended up doing the smartest thing which was get immunity first.
@@TomikaKelly--- terrible take lol.... Tomika just missed the whollllle entire point....
I’m a SW and I can’t tell you how many people get ANGRY when they can’t pay you extra for bare
The real victim is the little girl.. the mom is disgusting defending that monster
Regarding the fentanyl segment… What’s really insane is when an addict hears about somebody overdosing on a suppliers’ dope… They actually WANT THAT specific dope!!
The fact that somebody overdosed on that particular heroin makes it more appealing to an addict.
Just goes to show how the mind works when somebody is deep in addiction. And I’m speaking from experience… I’ve been clean almost 4 years.
Maybe they are subconsciously trying to die
@@jenniferthompson6280 nahhhh… it’s because to an addict, the thought process would be something like this: “that shit John od’d on must be some really, reeeeeeally good dope! Got to get me some of THAT!”
An addict isn’t trying to subconsciously die, we just want the best, most strongest dope available. You see, in our minds we rationalize by saying: “Well ok, ‘John’ may have overdosed on that dealer’s shit, but it won’t happen to ME, cuz I just won’t take as much per dose.”
See what I mean? When an addict is deep into their addiction… We don’t think clearly. We just comprehend the fact that there’s some really good dope going around… SO good that somebody od’d on it as being a good thing, instead of a very bad and dangerous thing.
Again, I do speak from experience. I’ll be honest and say that much. I was able to turn my life around, go back to law school and finish what I began because I had very good, patient, and loving people in my support system.
I think God for them every day, and I also do my best to help other addicts that I meet, because I understand them.
Thank you for responding. :-)
They want it because it's stronger for the same price and they can do less at a time. Not because they want to OD.
People were typically dying because they were getting heroin not realizing it was or had been mixed with fent.
Oh my Goodness