Not at all. All you need is the timing n the skill to use.. If i see valir in the enemy team all you need is patience for him to use his skills. When it's on cooldown it's way too easy to kill. Personally with me if i see a good valir in enemy hero i track him everytime and wait for my time to ult him
True af, more than his damage the slow and the DOT is painful af, like, bro just LET me go. As a fighter/assassin, I'm doing all calculation to find a opening but this dude with his purify ult and gtfo-of-my-face skill 2 literally spoil everything.
I'm an Edith player and I just miss out on teamfights (Clearly a very big Mistake) Just so I can attack Their backline if there's a valir, Cause there's a high chance the Valir already used up all his skills in the middle of the teamfight, and it surprisingly works.
IDK why, but playing valir gives the vibes of being a psychopath. Your opponents try to kill you, but all their efforts go in vain, and you slowly start to expunge the life out of them as they try to run away, but all they do is helplessly wiggle around. Good valir completely dominates his enemies, with little chance for a pushback. They can't fight back, they can't run away, just watch themselves burn slowly.
I think the reason people are confused is because of repetition,as in you already said “watching” but then you again added “to watch”. This is like saying “personally” and after adding “for me”.@@Mythic_Immortal97
There are a ton of counters to yin. Martis, thamuz, terizla, lunox, karrie, valir, aldous, argus, sun, jawhead. Hell, even balmond can be a counter to yin. And sometimes assassins like alucard, ling, and hayabusa as well. Among marksmen, wanwan really excels against him. And edith ofcourse is too tanky for him.
Nana was probably picked first then someone Picked Cyclops and Harley. Out of those 3 Nana has the best kit to be the Roamer. Happens to me a lot of times.
That's crazy. I just randomly saw this video pop up on my recommended, and never thought I would see myself in one of betosky's videos xD (yes ruby is pretty good)
True he have few extremely annoying counters,but it's only 3 really counters. Mia late game,Argus little late,Wangwan. Others you can over smart. Camp for wasting skills,delay use skills in ult atd, or finish game very quickly. In solo rank not full 5 counters for good keep yin not feeded. I am feeded in all ranks. In bad situations or good situations. Rule 0: Try pick Yin last. 1. Rule for Yin Never pick Yin,if enemy pick Mia. (If is team bad and you not finish game,Mia is ultra counter) Rule 2. Be extremely smart in picking heroes to domain. Rule 3. Not use always all skill fast in domain. Against blinking heroes use later. With Blood axe you can heal all HP fast. XP tip: Rule 4: in Earl try harass strong fighters with 1+( 2 for leave). And wait to half HP for last 1+2+ult+ fast 2+1. Dead. Like jungle focus on farm and objectives primarily,sometimes if see free kills,pick him. And Last if enemy pick Estes Yin give him Yinfobia.😂😂
@@Mysecretlife21never really had trouble with yin as estes, i usually use purify as my battle spell anyway and i build def items most of the time so I don't get bursted down
As a main Valir since my beginnings, I must say that being able to go with endurance is the best part of playing with him, in addition to making life impossible for melee heroes 🗣️👍
Just bought Valir didn’t realize how fun he is to play. He’s always down for a fight and I’ve definitely already stolen a few lords and turtles with flickering in lol
Am gonna say it if no one wants to, bro ur just too good in the game when I play this game using this hero's like u do I still can't be a little bit closer like u
Ahhh yes the magic defense item COD. lol even betosky doesn’t understand betosky . He says I have the “cloak of magic” (aka silence robe… a component item) and proceeds to show “clock of destiny”. 10/10 voiceover and visuals.
It's kinda strange that Valir is not being picked anymore, even at lower ranks, i've been on a Rank grind and yeah, no signs of any Valir users. And as a Fighter and Assassin main, im actually happy that valir wasn't being picked. 😅😆 Finally got to Legend but the struggle begins cuz i really to experience to be in Mythic, and my friends and classmates are speedrunning to get there. 💀
YOU SHOULD BE PRO PLAYER . BETO. BIG FAN HERE. I WATCHED ALL YOUR VIDS. OVER AND OVER AGAIN. I KNOW YOU WILL BE THE BEST PRO PLAYER.WHAT IS HOLD YOU DOWN?
Question betosky, if you're a mid laner is it really necessary to roam? Because if you did there's a lot of minion and gold that can be wasted in the mid lane once you roam. Thank you in advance.
I am not Betosky, but I think I can answer ur question as a player who usually plays the midlane. Mages don't always have to roam as it can be a waste of time, like, you roam to another lane only to get killed is an example, but roaming to another lane and u help ur team secure an objective (turret) and maybe also a kill is very beneficial not js for u but ur team as well. Mages can provide good cc skills and damage output. Also, some mages can provide vision which is crucial when it comes to achieving victory. But, remember that u r also responsible for ur own lane which is the midlane and do ur best to always clear minions waves, last hitting minions, and not having any of ur turrets destroyed. I hope that answers ur question!
I mean u should look for Ur counter part ..... Move Ur steps according to enemy mage .. mages have early game advantage with cc and AOE damage... So Ur fighter and mm will have hard time if u don't rotate to their lane but enemy mage went there for assistance... If u rotate with Ur enemy mage then both opponent and u will lose the equal amount of minions which will keep the farm balance...
I recommend doing quick and fast ganks. Maybe poke the enemy mm while the minions in mid are still coming down the lane. Make them low so your jg can finish them off easier. Force them to recall etc. Missing a couple minions out is OK if you can get a kill or two from the ganks you are gonna do or significantly slow down enemies' farm.
Ngl i love seeing Valir. As a fighter or a tank, because im a tank main and seeing valir focusing me and forcing his skills just means my team can dive him. Also radiant armor first item is the filthiest thing to ever exist. It also holds up just fine lategame (usually radiant armor kinda useless lategame due to genius, etc...like against harley athena is way better for lategame than radiant so against harley i dont even build radiant, just straight up athena) Against Valir i play Johnson or Belerick cause both are good. For exp you can go Terizla or Thamuz because again, both are tanky and as long as you draw his attention instead of your team, its good. Radiant armor will buy you a lot of time, even in lategame. Just dont overextend solo too far because valir also has a slow so he'll slowly melt you.
I use Zhask whenever I see opponent pick Yin. Yesterday he kidnapped me and he got killed. The second time he kidnapped me, he still couldnt so he only do a crying emoji whenever he sees me and kidnaps our mm instead lmao
I'm a big beto fan. Learnt a lot from him but his valir is a bit rusty. Too many first skill miss coz of minions also valir can stun really bad if u land your first and 2nd skill well
You should try Ruby, for me, Ruby is one of the best EXP Hero right now in this meta, one of the reason the 2 items, brute force breastplate, war axe and bloodlust axe, just by combining these three, you will be tanky enough while dealing enough damage to kill anyone.
Man, I love playing against a Valir(Cecilion/Novaria main). As a Cecilion, he pushes me away to the perfect attack range and is usually the main cause of death for his team because of that. Then, as a Novaria, my favourite thing to do is poke him for no reason with my balls. Am I killing him? No. Is it useful? Kind of. Is it fun, and does it give my team vision? Hell yeah! But he's also the main reason I stopped playing close range characters in classic, man he's so irritating to deal with...
Every time I play minotaur a valir shows up and he keeps cooking me to the point where my presence in the game became medium rare
Yeah, but remember, this is just a game. It's not worth having a *beef* over.
I'm loving this interaction 🤣
It's rare for me🤣
Y'all cooking hindu god 💀💀💀
As a mino main I too suffer from being overcooked by this flame boi.
The pun is...
Well done...
Damnit... =-=
I hate going against valir especially as a Fighter.
He's gonna be more annoying after Radiant Armor nerf
You can't block his HP based dmg anymore
Not at all. All you need is the timing n the skill to use.. If i see valir in the enemy team all you need is patience for him to use his skills. When it's on cooldown it's way too easy to kill. Personally with me if i see a good valir in enemy hero i track him everytime and wait for my time to ult him
Argus is a good counter or martis. Martis skill cant be pushed by valie while argus have a slow and double dash
As an xborg main, I love seeing valir as an opponent, none of his skills do anything against me when I decide to ult him
@@mg79852 for Martis yeah i guess it works but argus not sure. Never tried both the hero's..
Valir is literally every melee fighter's worst fear
yeah similar to vexana my older brother calls me to ban her every match since he plays melee heroes.
@@user-rf2zm5yj1ryour brother is correct, same with valentina, near instant terrify is just annoying
Not fear, just annoyance
True af, more than his damage the slow and the DOT is painful af, like, bro just LET me go.
As a fighter/assassin, I'm doing all calculation to find a opening but this dude with his purify ult and gtfo-of-my-face skill 2 literally spoil everything.
Say,name some melee heroes for me,I am new to the game,and I wanna try this game out
Nothing makes me more happy than seeing a tanky hero underestimate me and get absolutely melted. Valir is so crazy
That's me with Fredrin XD
I'm an Edith player and I just miss out on teamfights (Clearly a very big Mistake)
Just so I can attack Their backline if there's a valir, Cause there's a high chance the Valir already used up all his skills in the middle of the teamfight, and it surprisingly works.
building him with tank items is hella fun, baiting out cc skills when your team doesnt have a tank 😩👌
If they have Rafaela, you are done 'cause slow movement can be lifted through her 2nd skill (healer)
IDK why, but playing valir gives the vibes of being a psychopath. Your opponents try to kill you, but all their efforts go in vain, and you slowly start to expunge the life out of them as they try to run away, but all they do is helplessly wiggle around. Good valir completely dominates his enemies, with little chance for a pushback. They can't fight back, they can't run away, just watch themselves burn slowly.
Perfect psychopath... To deal with..
I kinda think that's on you buddy. But that's a valid point I got to admit
@SweetieTTO right? It brings out an inherent tedency. But I don't think I need to worry. I am becoming a doctor myself
As a Yin player i'm proud to see that even Betoski recognize our value😁
U guys r annoying af.
Only in solo rank bro.... Only in solo rank
Yeah when I go trio, yin goes afk lol 😅@@nurik7208
@@nurik7208 frfr yin is just mostly effective in the lower ranks like epic, because u'll most likely face enemies with no actual synergy
As a Yin user i can kill any hero valir ezzzz
Be pround Yin, you are strong
-Valir the Goat
Vagoat🗣🙏😤
y/in
4:46 great timing "magic? no, song of fire!"
Watching Betosky play is really entertaining to watch!! [Edit: had to edit so someone can read properly.]
What are U even saying dawg
@@FloyydL it’s just great to watch him, I may have to edit my comment later to not confuse the others
bro does not speak english
@@rpgman1238 okay .^.
I think the reason people are confused is because of repetition,as in you already said “watching” but then you again added “to watch”. This is like saying “personally” and after adding “for me”.@@Mythic_Immortal97
7:40 tough boot and clock of magic but Destiny icon appeared 😂
Thats what Im thinking to
where clock of destiny in his build though?
@@kouhaikun8936prolly miss icon tho. Besto said clock of magic but the destiny icon appear
It was already shown and you are still a perfectionist! Ironic
Lunox, Argus and arguably Sun are definitely Yin's kryptonite. He can kidnap them and they'd still have 1 up on him 😂
not sure about lunox amd argus but sun surely is annoying to go against as yin. since yin skill prioritize sun's clone.
@@yukansimi7664 Trust me, I played against Yin A LOT of times using Lunox and he's never been a threat
@yukansimi7664 argus sure is annoying if they have ult but argus is a food to yin without ult
That goes with khaleed too, if yin cant oneshot khaleed, then that sand mf will just sit in yin's domain and heal himself !! Annoying
There are a ton of counters to yin. Martis, thamuz, terizla, lunox, karrie, valir, aldous, argus, sun, jawhead. Hell, even balmond can be a counter to yin. And sometimes assassins like alucard, ling, and hayabusa as well. Among marksmen, wanwan really excels against him. And edith ofcourse is too tanky for him.
Great gameplay as usual! Looking forward to Ruby gameplay 👍
I don't play ml anymore but your videos are very relaxing to watch
Yes.. please try Ruby next. Although you don't play her that often, I still learned alot from your videos and apply on her. Also worked 😍
Waiting for ur yin game play... Folower since frst day
Nana was probably picked first then someone Picked Cyclops and Harley. Out of those 3 Nana has the best kit to be the Roamer. Happens to me a lot of times.
Yes I’d definitely watch a video of you playing ruby next!
I'm feeling bad today bit I still waited for your new vid
Nice vids! Any tips for the best roles in solo rank?
Betosky WTF, man? Why are your videos so short these days? I really love your content❤ and it's so good it doesn't deserve to be so short😢
That's crazy. I just randomly saw this video pop up on my recommended, and never thought I would see myself in one of betosky's videos xD (yes ruby is pretty good)
You're that amazing Ruby player?
@@itgirl8674 I'm just an average player haha, but yeah I was the ruby in this video :D
@@NewKFCWhoDis Beto commented you. You're an amazing player indeed.
oh, good performance. I have a little request, can you give his Id. please
This hero is every fighter's kryptonite.
Mm are scared of yin but mean while valir be like who wtf is yin
Countering yin is easy with some cc skills
Not very smart yin
I have 80% wr myth honor.
True he have few extremely annoying counters,but it's only 3 really counters.
Mia late game,Argus little late,Wangwan.
Others you can over smart.
Camp for wasting skills,delay use skills in ult atd, or finish game very quickly.
In solo rank not full 5 counters for good keep yin not feeded.
I am feeded in all ranks.
In bad situations or good situations.
Rule 0: Try pick Yin last.
1. Rule for Yin
Never pick Yin,if enemy pick Mia.
(If is team bad and you not finish game,Mia is ultra counter)
Rule 2. Be extremely smart in picking heroes to domain.
Rule 3. Not use always all skill fast in domain. Against blinking heroes use later.
With Blood axe you can heal all HP fast.
XP tip:
Rule 4: in Earl try harass strong fighters with 1+( 2 for leave).
And wait to half HP for last 1+2+ult+ fast 2+1.
Dead.
Like jungle focus on farm and objectives primarily,sometimes if see free kills,pick him.
And
Last if enemy pick Estes
Yin give him Yinfobia.😂😂
@@Mysecretlife21never really had trouble with yin as estes, i usually use purify as my battle spell anyway and i build def items most of the time so I don't get bursted down
Valir also hard Counters Balmond and Alice since you can spam nod and ice queen wand. Plus the Second skill can push them back once they get too close
Okay I am definitely buying valir
That Ruby got some guts to be running a full damage build lol
Atleast she got maniac lol
3:55 so we're not gonna talk about how Valir was running like he had a V8 engine in this instance?😂
8:57 ngl, Ruby kinda good rn, I wanna try her
AYOO MY MAN??!?
Huh?
Hello bro i'm back shout out from malaysia thanks for the advance video 😊❤
0:35 I sometimes build dom ice or necklace instead of antique, necklace passive also helps a lot, though I use him on tank emblem
A small editing mistake at 7:47 where it was supposed to show the cloak of magic but instead it was the clock of destiny
You should play ruby next she's really good and fun❤❤
Lol your editor thought cloak of magic was the clock of destiny xD
See @7:40
As a benedetta main,
I love going Against Valir.
Have you tried spell vamp/fighter-all red emblem on valir? He's quite annoying to deal with hahaha.
As a main Valir since my beginnings, I must say that being able to go with endurance is the best part of playing with him, in addition to making life impossible for melee heroes 🗣️👍
Try vexana nexttt
Just bought Valir didn’t realize how fun he is to play. He’s always down for a fight and I’ve definitely already stolen a few lords and turtles with flickering in lol
Bro that thumbnail is cooking
Am gonna say it if no one wants to, bro ur just too good in the game when I play this game using this hero's like u do I still can't be a little bit closer like u
What is the name of the background music at the beginning of the video, I have been trying to search for the song for so long to no avail
Ahhh yes the magic defense item COD. lol even betosky doesn’t understand betosky . He says I have the “cloak of magic” (aka silence robe… a component item) and proceeds to show “clock of destiny”. 10/10 voiceover and visuals.
nice music! what song is that?
Excellent video but the video is poorly translated into Spanish, the subtitles appear in another language I hope my comment is read and thank you
3:55 This is what I like about Mathilda. You can easily Gank the other lanes faster thanks to her second skill.
Whenever i play valir, i feel like i am a walking inferno, just burning and melting everyone around me, especially the tanky heroes.
Reminds me of my Wanwan against yin😂
Waiting for next Yin gameplay, hopefully Beto will use him again when AOT is out
Finally beto learning from me 😂
lots of uploads let’s go
Betosky when will you finally use odette bro please its very good when you know how to use her
YES PLS PLAY RUBY
7:46 I was a bit confused here because Betosky showed Clock of Destiny lol
Please do revamped Aurora pretty please~ 😅😁
Beto, can u play yu Zhong in the next video
It's kinda strange that Valir is not being picked anymore, even at lower ranks, i've been on a Rank grind and yeah, no signs of any Valir users. And as a Fighter and Assassin main, im actually happy that valir wasn't being picked. 😅😆
Finally got to Legend but the struggle begins cuz i really to experience to be in Mythic, and my friends and classmates are speedrunning to get there. 💀
YOU SHOULD BE PRO PLAYER . BETO. BIG FAN HERE. I WATCHED ALL YOUR VIDS. OVER AND OVER AGAIN. I KNOW YOU WILL BE THE BEST PRO PLAYER.WHAT IS HOLD YOU DOWN?
I would have expected yin to go jungle in this video since he is far more a menace in this role
Video 128 of requesting Betosky to play Moskov
Yep, most definitely.
Valir got that hellfire Rizz..lol
BRO THIS MUSIC!!!
„I kinda want to try ruby now“
You freaking should, she doesnt get seen often
In the thumbnail ma boi valir got some rizz
I have a feeling Betosky is going to play Fanny when the AoT skins come out. Fingers crossed. 11
Beto can u make a Clint gameplay please that would help me alot thank you :)
Question betosky, if you're a mid laner is it really necessary to roam? Because if you did there's a lot of minion and gold that can be wasted in the mid lane once you roam. Thank you in advance.
I am not Betosky, but I think I can answer ur question as a player who usually plays the midlane. Mages don't always have to roam as it can be a waste of time, like, you roam to another lane only to get killed is an example, but roaming to another lane and u help ur team secure an objective (turret) and maybe also a kill is very beneficial not js for u but ur team as well. Mages can provide good cc skills and damage output. Also, some mages can provide vision which is crucial when it comes to achieving victory. But, remember that u r also responsible for ur own lane which is the midlane and do ur best to always clear minions waves, last hitting minions, and not having any of ur turrets destroyed. I hope that answers ur question!
I mean u should look for Ur counter part ..... Move Ur steps according to enemy mage .. mages have early game advantage with cc and AOE damage... So Ur fighter and mm will have hard time if u don't rotate to their lane but enemy mage went there for assistance... If u rotate with Ur enemy mage then both opponent and u will lose the equal amount of minions which will keep the farm balance...
I recommend doing quick and fast ganks. Maybe poke the enemy mm while the minions in mid are still coming down the lane. Make them low so your jg can finish them off easier. Force them to recall etc. Missing a couple minions out is OK if you can get a kill or two from the ganks you are gonna do or significantly slow down enemies' farm.
@@Xens_UA-cam Thank you
@@ujwalghimire3743 Thank you
Beto sir can you please add what songs/musics you use in the video
entertaining watch as always
I wana know how many skins u have?
Ngl i love seeing Valir. As a fighter or a tank, because im a tank main and seeing valir focusing me and forcing his skills just means my team can dive him.
Also radiant armor first item is the filthiest thing to ever exist. It also holds up just fine lategame (usually radiant armor kinda useless lategame due to genius, etc...like against harley athena is way better for lategame than radiant so against harley i dont even build radiant, just straight up athena)
Against Valir i play Johnson or Belerick cause both are good. For exp you can go Terizla or Thamuz because again, both are tanky and as long as you draw his attention instead of your team, its good. Radiant armor will buy you a lot of time, even in lategame. Just dont overextend solo too far because valir also has a slow so he'll slowly melt you.
When you using jungler tank, slow exp and your opponent is valir💀
Not the newest of betosky viewers but not the oldest. Never thought to ask but wheres Beto from? I cant place the accent
Is popol still playable in gold lane or hes only good as a jungler now?
Still good as goldliner
Just be careful if you're against hanabi lol
Pregunta randon, Betosky , vives solo?? , podrías dar consejos para quienes se aventuran en esa travesía,.es un solo Q , pero más op xDDD
I use Zhask whenever I see opponent pick Yin. Yesterday he kidnapped me and he got killed. The second time he kidnapped me, he still couldnt so he only do a crying emoji whenever he sees me and kidnaps our mm instead lmao
7:47 I had the Cloak of Magic -> shows Clock of Destiny :D
Valir ma boy 😁😁😁
The pic be looking real Sus Beto
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As a yin Mainer I’m happy that betoski shows respect for a completely non-meta hero. But tbh isn’t valir more annoying than yin?
Have u ever tried exp odette?
Betosky, could you please link the songs you use in your videos?
Search up 'betosky background music' alot shows up
I once played valir exp and bullied a thamuz 😂 it was so fun
Valir is crazy in ranked, most of the time I'm either MVP or very close to it in the end
could you please play freddrin? he is still strong and nobody plays him anymore
Please what’s the title of the song between 7:43 to 8:58 Please I’ve been at it for weeks. Someone help me. Please
In my server valir is always banned 😅
why is the "ok" button on top of the chat button instead of being next to it?
Requesting betosky to use Lapu lapu day 1❤
I'm a big beto fan. Learnt a lot from him but his valir is a bit rusty. Too many first skill miss coz of minions also valir can stun really bad if u land your first and 2nd skill well
that yin clearly didnt know how to engage properly,
Does anyone know the music he's playing throughout the video?
Valir helped me for 3 seasons now.
Good counter against balmond, barats, yin and other fighters.
Missing the line when betosky say,
"One step ahead"
You should try Ruby, for me, Ruby is one of the best EXP Hero right now in this meta, one of the reason the 2 items, brute force breastplate, war axe and bloodlust axe, just by combining these three, you will be tanky enough while dealing enough damage to kill anyone.
Even if i know how to play around Valir carefully, my allies dont so i just ban him if given the chance
i love the part where betosky had the clock of magic
Valir my main this season
Man, I love playing against a Valir(Cecilion/Novaria main). As a Cecilion, he pushes me away to the perfect attack range and is usually the main cause of death for his team because of that. Then, as a Novaria, my favourite thing to do is poke him for no reason with my balls. Am I killing him? No. Is it useful? Kind of. Is it fun, and does it give my team vision? Hell yeah! But he's also the main reason I stopped playing close range characters in classic, man he's so irritating to deal with...