Irish Stew From 1900 & The Irish Potato Famine
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"'Luck of the Irish to you!"
The luck of the Irish, historically: *Not good*
It’s like saying the Luck of the Africans. It doesn’t get you very far.
That's what that saying means, when something unfortunate happens you say "Luck of the Irish". So technically when Americans say it they're wishing back luck on people.
yeah "luck of the Irish" sounds like an insult from the British
@Al Koholik
I think it's just an old school, low-key way to tell people to fuck off.
I mean, the other way of looking at it is that the irish still exist, despite a large amount of cosmic effort to not let that happen. So "managing to survive your darkest moments," could be a way to spin it.
On the Choctaw thing, last year there was a donation drive in Ireland that raised around 3 million euros to go to the Navajo and Hopi nations for COVID relief as thanks for the aid we got during the famine. A lovely little way to say thanks!
Plus Ireland is one of the most generous nations per capita - and there are lots of agricultural development programs that the Irish take part in. (I did my masters there and learned a lot about their system)
(tears)
This is the greatest story I've had the great opportunity of learning this week.
Wanishi. If I remember correctly it was also the irish lacrosse team who gave up their slot to the Mohawk could play the game that they created for the Creator delight.
I weep every time I think about this & all the comments that were like "we remember." 😭
Im a Newfoundlander. Over 80% of our population is descended from Irish citizens who emigrated here from the 1600’s onward. My Nan used to make this exact recipe once a week (Wednesday) to get thru the “hump” day. Only she used moose meat. Not mutton; although sometimes we had it. It’s like giving your insides a warm and loving hug. Drink a cup of tea after, and you are ready to fall asleep on the couch while watching the news. I miss my Nan. She passed away two months ago at 93. This made me think of her. (Edit: She added carrots and turnips in the stew tho)
I will try this like your Nan made!
The really messed up part was that even though people were dying by the side of the road with grass stains on their mouths, the English landlords were STILL exporting huge amounts of food to England that could have fed the Irish populace.
That and the callous disregard for human lives are why a lot of people see the Famine as an attempted genocide.
Not to mention that English landlords keeping all the other crops is the sole reason it became a monocrop in the first place. The crop failure never could have become a famine if not for English oppression.
Nobles of any sort have a tendency towards trashdom, it is often true even now in England as we commoners are often reminded in times of adversity.
@Rusty Howe Protestants man, the prostestant part of Germany also voted for hitler
I have no love for the English, but there were some lords who bankrupted themselves to help their tenants during the famine. Profiteering and the idea that poor people deserve to suffer and that God wants wealthy people to stay wealthy is just human nature.
@@daffyf6829 it's human nature to help each other. We have archeological record proving that.. It's Christian prosperity gospel you're thinking of.
Teacher: What was the parasite responsible for the Irish Potato Famine?
Student: English landlords.
Teacher: (beat) I'll accept that answer as technically correct.
In the immortal words of Jerry Reed, "When you're hot, you're hot."
Amen!
"The best kind of correct!" -Futurama
Preach!
unfathomably based
The Choctaw sending aid. That's probably one of the best examples of "I give, not because I have much, but because I know what it is to have nothing".
Well said indeed - those who have nothing are the ones to share - it has been my experience throughout my life. Thank you for an excellent comment
I felt that
In 2020 the Irish, stating that they were “paying it forward” with their aid from the Choctaws in mind, took up a very sizeable donation with which to aid and assist the Navajo and Hopi who were suffering greatly at the time. It really is a beautiful thing.
Charity, though a great deed from any source, will always mean more coming from those that have less.
Another bitter irony is that Andrew Jackson, whose parents were Ulster Protestant immigrants, was the man who, first as a general and then later as President, was largely responsible for the ethnic cleansing of huge swathes of native American tribes in the South earlier in the century (notably Choctaw, Cherokee and Seminole) to open up the region to settlement by white people. That’s why you find his name given to many cities and counties in the South, such as Jacksonville, Florida, Jackson, Mississippi, Jackson County Alabama, etc., a real swell guy.
Living in Oklahoma (And also being Choctaw and Chickasaw) I learned about the famine and the help given when I was in Oklahoma History. And the Irish have been really good back. Love my Irish ☘️ friends
I am a (quoting Life of Brian) "red sea pedestrian" and my "soul sister (now soul mom)" is Lakota. We joke that we are just from different tribes! (Love the Irish too).
I'm Chickasaw too! I never see our tribe even brought up anywhere lol, so I was surprised and gleeful to see your comment (a year later)
The Irish stew my family makes now has all the same ingredients, but just adds butter at the end. We also sear the meat first. It's a recipe that my great grandmother wrote down, but it's supposedly from the first Irish ancestor of ours that came to America in the 1910s, right after WWI.
Could you please share the recipe? 🙏🏽
God Bless ✝️
Do the share the recipe please.
does it taste good
@bina nocht LMAO
WW1 was from 1914 -1918
"Jack Trevelyan was put in charge of Government relief. He did not believe in government relief".
Ah, British politics hasn't changed much in 200 or so years.
Nice to see the baton has been taken up by America
@@casinodelonge I learned it by watching you, Dad!
Oh come on. When was the last time someone in the UK starved to death?
@@sextwister seeing as how mental health is treated in the UK, probably once a month.
@@redreboot483 Probably more frequently than that.
The Choctaw raising the money to help the Irish, despite having so little at the time, was really incredible. It says something that people can identify kindred spirits and want to support each other no matter the distance.
In 2020 the Navajo and Hopi nations held a donation drive to help their communities affected greatly by Covid. Irish people donated more than 3 million dollars as thanks for the Choctaw's help 170 years ago.
@@cacamilis8477 Wow!
How true that is! Check out the Kindred Spirits sculpture in Ireland, if you haven't yet. Edit: That'll teach me to comment before I finish the video. 🤦
This always reminds me of the parable of the widow whose gift from her poverty was more dear to God than the rich man’s gift out of his surplus.
Recently the Irish national lacrosse team gave up their spot in a world tournament to an Iroquois national team who would have otherwise not been able to participate. I know the Iroquois are not the Choctaw, but Max's video reminded me of that. It's interesting to see Ireland's friendship with Native Americans still exists in many ways today.
The Choctaw donating to the Irish is so very touching.
My mom grew up poor, the grandchild of Irish immigrants, and she often survived on a diet of potatoes and buttermilk. My great-great grandparents immigrated with my great-grandmother during the famine and continued farming until my mother left farm life and moved to Los Angeles. I left L.A. and went back to farm life, much to my mother’s horror.
Is there anything you miss? I don't miss much - not the beach; I have the snowy plains - not the crowds; I have neighbors - not the sun; I have the changing seasons and clean air - not the access to immigrant foods; I learnt how to cook.
The only thing I worry for is my children: my steady is _'Original'_ American as my foreign friends and family have said, but I'm *_Not;_* I worry for my children who will have to be on their toes like I have for my entire American career.
Good for you!
The story about the Choctaw made me teary-eyed. What an incredibly generous thing to do for a people so horribly treated.
I can’t remember what the incident was, but the Irish eventually repaid that debt to the Choctaw, with interest
@SmittenKitten It's quite astonishing the way mankind manage, throughout history, to package together the good, the bad, and the truly horrific...
@@nicadi2005 It's absolutely incredible. Sometimes the bad tends to overwhelm one's mind, but looking at people who've not only been oppressed, but also dehumanized, not just rise above their labels, but through goodwill and charity alone show their oppressors exactly what humanity can be at its best gives me incredible hope. That doesn't take away from the vile things anyone has been through, but is a testament to how good they are. My thoughts got away from me there, so apologies if this is rambly and/or off topic.
@@landonalger6633 I read about that!! After this episode, I went to read more! Incredible.
@@landonalger6633 I read that the Irish "paid it forward" by coming to the aid of the Navajo and Hopi Nations last year, as they were sorely affected by the pandemic. Previous to that,, they had established an annual scholarship for a Choctaw student to study in Ireland.
"I asked six different people from Ireland how to say it and they all gave me something slightly different" yep that's definitely correct
It's so weird. Only recently I found out just how different the pronunciations of words are. I'm from the northern part of the Republic, and I've heard someone from Cork say phrases in Irish that I barely even understood but when I realised what it was it was like a whole other language. So weird that almost every corner of Ireland has utterly different sounding accents and pronunciations of the same thing. Must have been crazy visiting people hundreds of years ago.
@@GodsHelix This is the same all over in nations that old. Once upon a time you could tell people from just a few miles away because they spoke slightly differently. A nation the size of Ireland would have had dozens of dialects all different. Another example is France. Breton French is different to that of the north which included a lot of Dutch, and in the south there was Basque and many, many more.
@@truckerallikatuk Also, Romanian has something like this. Every region has its own version of a word, in Moldavia people sound russianlike, in Oltenia they sound turkish and in Transylvania they sound Hungarian.
I was on a quest to learn to pronounce my own name for years and just gave up after a while. It's incredible.
Lol the fear of the day of your leaving cert Irish exam and you hear the voice on the CD being from another province :L
I've only heard about how we were neglected, not about all the help my ancestors received from people around the world. I'm shocked and want to say thank you to all those nations and peoples who helped the Irish during their time of need. I may not be here without that help, seriously. So sincerely, thank you
A reason it's not as well known is because a lot of aid was blocked or taken by England. A lot of the help people around the world sent never reached the Irish. I remember one story about another Native American tribe sending some cattle to Ireland as a gesture of good will even though it wasn't a lot, and the English government was like "No." and just took it themselves.
Learned about this growing up as an American, the one thing our schooling loves to teach us about the rest of the world is "Fuck England", and well, it's better than nothing.
To give so much despite having little is far more compelling than those who give only when they have plenty.
The Choctaw and the Irish people's friendship is so wholesome.
Just a quick note for the Americans: When these historical records (and even modern records) in Britain refer to "corn" being shipped out of Ireland they mean grain (wheat, barley, etc). Grains were known as corn long before America was re-discovered. American corn is known as maize.
Corn is usually the word for the main grain-like food people use in the region. Basically the food they mainly make their flour from.
@@lady8jane 'Corn' literally means grain. It is cognate with 'kernel' and both come from the same anglo-saxon roots. It just so happens that in the US it came to take on the meaning of maize because like you say it was the main grain in many places.
Hmmm learn something new every day. Thanks
@@catocall7323 Exactly! Same in some other languages btw. German for example uses "Korn" in the same way.
Thanks for the context!
Boil 'em.
Mash 'em.
Stick 'em in a stew.
*Spits*
PO TAY TOES
this is my favorite episode, and i've been watching you since your beginning. my grandfather was born on the choctaw nation before statehood, and his grandparents were some of the choctaw there when they sent the donation. every irish person i have ever met has had to say thank you to me when they find out that i am part choctaw, and they have done so much to help out the choctaw still living there and other indigenous american tribes in trougle.
i plan to make it to county cork someday to see the bowl made of feathers.
yakoke, max.
I regularly rewatch episodes of Tasting History but I always come back to this episode in particular because I can’t get over the juxtaposition of the tragic and cruel history of the Great Hunger (An Gorta Mór) with Max’s description of this being the “happiest” meal he’s prepared for the show. That captures one of the most difficult but beautiful parts of history, I think; that even in periods of darkness, people were able to find and make joy for themselves and others. Even in the darkest moments of history, someone is having one of the best meals of their life, and vice versa.
So true! I come from poor sharecroppers that were of French and Scotts Irish decent. My 3rd great grandmother came to America as an orphan through New Orleans. Times were hard and their food was poor people’s food but they learned to make what they had taste good. The food of my people and heritage is always the best and most comforting and has stood the test of time!
"I asked 6 different people from ireland how to say it and they all gave me something slightly different"
Thats the most irish thing i've ever heard.
It’s Ireland. They says it hows they say.
I was expecting 8 different pronunciations myself out of 6 people.
That checks out
Well there are 4 Dialects of Irish one for each Of the provinces
Yeh that’s called accents. The British isles (by that I mean the archipelago) is rich with accents
If Hello Fresh wants my money, they should have Max design a Tasting History line of meals.
That would be amazing!!
Oh my GOD that's an amazing idea
Depends on how much garum they'd add in.
Brilliant! I would get it and gift others to all my friends and family. Maybe get together with the weird explorer and send out exotic fruit boxes, too
Proper Spartan cuisine!
Ironically I’m both Irish, Choctaw and Lakota. Those are the main genetics along with a little bit of English. That donation to the Irish from the Choctaw nation is quite interesting. My grandpa is from Oklahoma where the Choctaw are and my grandma is from the Rosebud reservation in South Dakota. Not a 100% but I’m pretty sure my moms side came here from Ireland in the mid 1800’s from Ireland, from the famine. Crazy mang
Being Irish myself this episode is close to my heart ❤
I still make Irish stew with only potatoes and onions on occasion, so simple and yet so very comforting.
Sending you love my Irish brother from sligo 🇮🇪
Me: “Yay! Tasting History. What delightful nuggets of history await?”
10 minutes later: “$&@“?! Trevelyan! You suck!”
Seriously. I got so mad researching this episode.
@@TastingHistory I loved the tone when you said "I hate you..".. but if you had said "I'm disappointed in you" the whole 'Dad tone' would have resonated a bit more. LoL
What so sad is that he reminds me of many modern-day US politicians.
Trevelyan was English but I was a little sad to find recently he was apparently of Cornish descent.
@@paulohagan3309 given that my grandmother's grandfather had the same last name, he shames the honorable name of Trevelyan.
When my husband and I were in college, and generally starving, living on student loans, I once scraped our last three or four dollars that we'd collected from recycling. I had to buy food that would last us for a couple days until we got paid. I came home, and shouted to my husband, "Potatoes!" I was thrilled because a huge bag was on sale. Potatoes are always there when you're hungry.
They truly are one of the best most filling staples ever. And if you are even luckier to get the ones with the orange hue to them (yams/sweet potatoes), you are eating a super food with an absolute shitload of nutrients for you! Amazing food stuff right there. :)
Did you used to hang out on an asian horror movie site?
Indeed. And rice.
@JennyLS - I know exactly what you mean. We lived on Social Security survivor benefits when I was a kid, a truly tight income. The money arrived monthly. The first thing my mother bought was a 20lb bag of potatoes to have when the rest of the food ran out at the end of the month.
@@bobross4886
Rice doesn’t have much nutrition in it though. That’s why many brands fortify it to make it a little better, but a lot of dumb people don’t read the package properly or respect the instructions, so they rinse their rice off a ton which strips away all it’s fortification lol.
My whole life, every time I have a pot "simmering" and it looks and sounds like that, my dad will freak out, tell me it's boiling, and turn down the heat to nearly nothing. It's so infuriating and my father will take HOURS longer to cook anything on a stove than anyone else. I'm glad to feel vindicated.
I recently made this stew whilst watching this video, all while dressed in my very own Irish sweater and keeping time with my Irish shamrock pocket watch.
My parents loved it. Though I did have to use American bacon here.
Another one showing culinary ignorance... it is side bacon. Get over yourselves.
Huh, landlords who don't live in the areas that they own and still expecting people to pay exorbitant rent during a crisis of some kind.
Good to know some things never change
The entire state of Pennsylvania was once owned by the descendents of William Penn (then living in England) and refused to budge on anything related to rents when Ben Franklin was sent to negotiate such...
Well in California its not even the landlord's fault. Good luck buying a property, building a house and renting it out for a profit.
@@sextwister it's mostly Chinese billionaires in Cali now.
Wait, you're telling me there's a class character to manufactured famine? Surely not.
Let's kill all the landlords! Or was it lawyers? I've never been good at Shakespeare.
(Yes I know it was actually a tribute to lawyers as the guardians of people's rights, let's not get bogged down in details.)
I had a friend in college who was a bit homesick and was always talking about his Irish grandmother's cooking. My room mate and I spent a whole week preparing an stew for him. The beef got packed in some spices, salt and shallots to help tenderize and cure it, pushing the rub down into the bowl and applying fresh every day for a week. After, you cubed it, seared it in a dutch oven, added mirepoix, potatoes and cabbage, dumped the rub on top and cooked it low and slow for about 2 hours, adding a 3 cups of dark ale for the last 15 minutes.
When he came into out apartment that evening for our weekly card game, he teared up before both feet had crossed the doorway.
What true great friends you were to go to such lengths to bring him a touch of home! You no doubt made him happier than you could imagine!
My god now I'm weeping as well... You are such a great friend, bless you and your heart!! 💞
Please please give us the recipe!
@@cecilyerker It's been about 5 years since I've made it. I'll have to hunt a bit, but if I find it, I'll post it here.
Speaking as a homesick Ex-Pat, you guys are amazing!
I read a book called Angela's Ashes back in highschool. Highly recommended if you're looking for a glimpse into the life of an Irish man growing up in the early 1900's. It's fantastic, it's heartbreaking, it's honest. It's a great read.
That has been turned into a movie as well. I've seen it. If you haven't, should check it out. Black 47 is also high on my list of Irish historical movies. My Irish ancestors came over to the new world in the 1750's so luckily missed the great famine.
Such a beautifully written and fascinating book. He also wrote some sequels which are also fascinating.
We here in Ireland know the truth about McCourt. In short, he's full of it!! Everyone knows he was out and out lying about his growing up to the point that he was sued many times for slandering families he named in the book. His father was from the north and made little money, but his mother's family were well off and his family never suffered like he claimed. Had he wrote it as a fiction, it would have been alright. His brother also wrote some books that were far better reads.
@@KeshHarpomgosh, I never heard of this before! Angela's Ashes has been one of my most favorite books. If this is true, I'm so sad.
Thank you
As someone from Ireland , thank you for sharing this part of this wee island’s history.
Irish stew is something my mum would make in the cold months of Autumn and winter. In it there’s beef, parsley, carrot, onion and lots of potatoes, it’s cooked in a pot for several hours until the potatoes break down and are soft, so the stew is a thick consistency. It’s wonderfully comforting and filling 💛
What the Choctaw people did for the Irish is so incredible. Brought a tear to my eye.
It's like everyone except the British weren't turds to the Native Americans.
@@jamesthompson7694 the ottomans wanted to help. But Victoria stuck her fat ass into the situation.
Shout out to uncle garry waylon white deer. Go buy his merch!
Me too
@@alanpumphrey9639 You should be the one writing history textbooks
It’s a real testament of character when someone with so little gives to someone with nothing. Another episode well done.
In my experience in the non-profit sector around food insecurity specifically, those who understand lack are the ones who give back most reliably. I think when we understand a need intimately and personally, we want to help with whatever little we have to give wherever we can.
I've been poor most of my life and i, and my grown kids!, will share with those who need it.
@@annbrookens945No one eats cake until everyone has had bread it should be, but most brains are not wired that way.
@@zipbangcrash Well said, and so very true.
It is sadly those with barely enough means to survive on their own that donate to those in more need. Even if you look at massive donations and sponsorships to help the disadvantaged from Carnegie down through Bezos (and before, but nothing comes to mind at the moment before the steel barons), it's a tiny percentage of free spending money than those who have little to begin with. A PR move more than anything out of benevolent motivations.
Might not be far enough back in history but soup kitchen reminded me of this. We are part Cherokee and my family survived the Trail of Tears because one son was left with a white farm family to hide. He had a “falling down sickness” and they knew he wouldn’t survive the trip. He ended up in Chicago and 10 or 11 of my family died on the Trail (1 we aren’t certain about yet). This relative was my great grandfather so my grandfather and mom were raised there instead of home. My grandfather told us of growing up before and during the depression. If you have ever seen the “Our Gang” or “Little Rascals” that was the time of his childhood as well. He explained that Al Capone soup kitchens kept him and his mom from starving. I know it was just PR to Capone but they wouldn’t have survived without them. He also said the lack of seasoning made most folks feel worse. It was bad enough to be eating a bowl of cabbage soup(and grateful to have that) or something similar and then to not have any salt or pepper to at least help it have some taste.
One of your best! My family are both Choctaw and Irish, among other nationalities, and are well aware of the wonderful history of which you have so fortunately reminded us! Thank you!
Meat: good
Potatoes: good
Meat and potatoes: *angelic chorus begins to sing*
~~~Tale as old as time...~~~
Idk if I was meant to hear Joey from friends when I read this comment, but I did 😂
@@katelillo1932 me too. Jam: Gooood! hahahah
@@katelillo1932 Some inspiration was taken from him 🤣
Meat & potatoes & onions: **angels descend from above to spoon-feed you the mana-like meal as divine light shines upon you**
I am highly impressed by the effort Max makes to get the pronunciations of foreign words correct. It’s such a little thing, but the effort to consult professionals and be willing to learn is just so cool to see. We never stop learning after all!
Thank you 😊
@@TastingHistory puppy kiss for you ❤️❤️❤️💯💯
go raibh maith agat max, grá ó éirinn
@@TastingHistory Not sure what you do yourself or whether you'll see this, but knowing the International Phonetic Alphabet really helps you understand what's going on in your mouth. It looks pretty scary, but it's not that hard, and it's super useful if you're ever doing anything with any sort of pronunciation in any language
Plus, Celtic languages have a long history of suppression, so it's super nice to see them getting proper respect!
The donation for $170 from the Native Americans who had already endured so much from all of these Europeans-I went back and listened that three times. That is one incredible group of people. Cried listening to that portion.
I watched this when you first released this and 2 years later, I made the stew for St. Paddy’s day. It is, as you said, the happiest meal I’ve had. Sláinte to you Max!
There was a farmer in the town I used to live in who had a HUGE surplus of potatoes he had grown. instead of selling it, he bought time on our local news to let people know that anyone struggling to get food was more than welcome to come to the stadium and get 15lbs of potatoes. He also told us that this was his way of helping those with little during the pandemic when he had more than enough to share.
Awww 🥺❤️
Now that’s top notch🇨🇮🇨🇮🇨🇮
That's so awesome!
it's also the case that there was a massive potato surplus as there was no demand due to the pandemic, so a lot of potato farmers literally had tonnes upon tonnes of potatoes that no one wanted to buy. Giving them away is cheaper than disposing of them. Still, good on him.
👍🏻❤❤❤
I straight up forgot this was a cooking channel when you went into the history portion until you said "What is not a downer is that wonderful bowl of Irish stew!"
I was so engaged with the history then suddenly I go THE STEW
Love your channel Max!! You give us so much context and make the information "palatable"
That’s the best compliment I can get 😁
I was so sucked in i literally forgot about the food
Glad I still hold on to what this channel actually is... Compelling history anyways, keep it up!
Me too!
"You give us so much context and make the information 'palatable' " Ayyy lmao
Im not even Irish and somehow I was really moved that he loved it so very much. Also, the Choctaw story made me want to cry... such a beautiful gift
My grandmother was from Kerri Blu Ireland & her mom from County Cook. I grew up eating Irish Stew. My great grandmother made hers much like your recipe. My grandmother added carrots and stout to her's as budget permitted.
I was a bit surprised by the "If you're still watching..." like... I had never once even considered closing an episode of Tasting History until the very very end.
He has good delivery keeps you wanting more. Like good food 😁
Same here ;o)
He knows from his UA-cam metrics how many people leave the video at which points.
Imagine growing food during a famine and having it sent away to the people BLAMING you for your famine...
It's as strange as going through a global pandemic and people refusing to isolate and instead having huge house parties.
@@animesoul167 hahahahah i’m so glad we live in a time where everything’s totally fine and people aren’t doing stupid shit like that
@@animesoul167 ....it hurts because it’s accurate 😔
We now know the the plentiful food - grain and meat was stolen at gunpoint by the English army and shipped to England to feed the newly urban factory workers who in turn had been displaced from labouring in the countryside during the Industrial Revolution.
I mean, that doesnt sound all that different from modern capitalism and the treatment of the poorest of folks
Yep. My family arrived in Michigan in 1850, and oddly enough Irish stew has always always been a favourite meal in our house. Great episode!
You know the magicall thing about your shows Max? I am a mediocre cook who watches your shows for your humor and your wonderful retelling of history. Seems to me that if everyone watched your shows and learned from history, this world might be a better place!
I really appreciate that you don't shy away from the horrid parts of history when discussing this topic
Same thoughts
@dontcare I think that not getting into every bit of detail on something like this is acceptable so long as you don't imply that the bits you don't talk about never happened. This isn't a channel dedicated to cataloging the many, _many_ contemporary and historical atrocities of the English, after all.
💯💕
I'm a little Choktaw (mostly Navajo) and my grandma who the Choktaw came from wanted to see that monument before she died, but then Rona happened when we finally had the money for that trip, and she passed early last year.
I'm so sorry she did not get to fulfil that wish. Perhaps as the disease abates and/or vaccinations increase, one (at least) of the family can go and pay tribute to the great kindness of your people for her sake.
On a totally separate note, love your username. That and "Good tea; nice house" are perhaps my favourites
Sorry to hear it. In school we all learned about the donation as part of our history classes as an act of huge generosity. Although I think in my book it was noted as a "Native American" donation; I don't think Irish people in the 80's had much of an appreciated for the wide diversity of Native American cultures.
My brother's history book some 6 years later had been updated with the correct information by that point.
Now almost half a year later I'm still making this and it's the only UA-cam recipe that actually made it's way into my everyday cookbook. Me and my family love it.
I was in Ireland in 1995 and the Irish still held a lot of anger towards the British. Which is completely understandable. We got an earful every tour we took. A very calmly spoken and polite earful. They were all very friendly.
I believe that would be because of the troubles though.
@@padmanabhanvaidyanathan7182 The Irish have a lot to be angry about that predates the Troubles from all the way back to the Middle Ages. Most of what we heard about while in Ireland regarded the Irish Potato Famine, when the Irish were dying of starvation while the British were exporting food grown in Ireland for profit, and the repressive tactics used by the British when the Irish sought to gain their independence around 1920. The Troubles, which were mostly a Northern Ireland issue (we weren’t even ever in Northern Ireland), were the culmination of Irish anger towards the English, not the cause of it.
I don't know much about irish history, but what i know, i pretty much get why they are still angry.
I would be too
Angry at dead people... but directed at the living... useful
@@rebeccaconlon9743 Directed is too strong a term to describe it. Irish tour guides simply pulled no punches in describing what England did to them for centuries. They have every right. I believe one can continue to be angry even if the guilty parties are dead. I’ll never cease being angry towards my own country for its worst historical deeds (I’m not talking about my directed anger towards living Americans committing or encouraging present bullshit), but I’m not directing that towards anyone. Hell, I’d be one of that anyone. My ancestors were probably involved in some of those deeds.
Raise your hand if you're jealous of his husband because he gets to eat all this wonderful food that Max makes 🙋♀️
True but, on the other hand, they might come home and all that's there is a big bowl of kykeon!
I think I'm fine with living in the world where I don't have to come home to "Hi honey, I made cockentrice!"
both of them are lovely people...
Immunodefifiency and syphilic n*ggas be like
@@JohnDoe-oh2st Dude, what??
This actually looks like something I can cook....imagine that
*narrator voice* in fact, he could not cook it
@@dsadawrware Nothing is going to go wrong here. I'm perfectly capable of handling a few potatoes and some water.
@@symmetrymilton4542 You GO, Symmetry! A tip of the Guinness to ya!
@@symmetrymilton4542 Rooting for you!
You mean you couldn't make the cockentrice?
This is one of my favorite episodes Max! I am of Irish descent being over half myself ,my father full blooded with just one Scottish hair somewhere lol 😂🤷♀️ On my mother's side I have Choctaw Indian as well as Cherokee ❤ The pain and suffering of the poor people in this time was so devastating 😞 not to mention the heartless neglect they received ! Makes me so proud to have my heritage of such strong and proud ppl 🇮🇪❤🦅 One of the first meals I learned to make as a young girl was Irish stew ,I can't wait to try this one ☘😊🍽
THANK YOU for pointing out that lots of crops were grown in Ireland at the time... they just weren't accessible to the poor. People always seem to gloss over that when talking about the Famine. "Starving in the midst of plenty" hits the nail on the head.
"How to make an Irish supper...
-get a load of vegetables
-get a big pot
-get a load of stout
-put the vegetables in the pot
-drink the stout
-forget about the dinner"
-Leather Jacket Guy
I'll be having that
been there.
I am currently in China teaching American immigration to my majority Chinese student class. My students were struggling on the concept of why there were so many Irish descendants in America. I tried to find some videos, but were unsuccessful. I am using this tomorrow!
It’s pretty accurate!
Don't forget to mention the cruelty and genocides of the English oppressors and also draw a parallel to the Chinese treatment of Tibetans, Uygurs and other minorities. Best of luck mate!
@@LoLMasterManiac That would be a *fantastic* way to piss off students & faculty & get fired & possibly deported. China is *VERY* sensitive about nationalistic matters; we're talking about mobilizing en masse to systematically attack people who admit that Taiwan is a country, or that traditional Chinese martial arts aren't effective for real fighting.
Also... that stuff has nothing to do with what they mentioned, and they're under no obligation to act as a vehicle for your political agenda. If you want to teach Chinese students about this stuff so bad, go to China & do it yourself.
@@Wazzen563 Gotta love humanity: willing to delude themselves to whatever lie just so they won't tace the ugly truth...
@@LoLMasterManiac Um.... Are you trying to get this guy arrested? Are you that naive or foolish? Just curious.
Very insightful and educational and very respectful to the Irish and the heartbreaking event that was the famine, so as an Irish woman I want to thank you Max you told our story with heart and made me proud
Fun fact! The biggest St. Patrick's Day in the British Isles is in Liverpool, not in Dublin.
Also, the food being shipped out also occurred in the Scottish Highlands (and troops were also sent in).
Dublin is not part of the British Isles.
Thank you so much for mentioning the relationship between the Irish and Choctaw Nations, as a descendant of both, it means a lot to me
Just reading about the story brought me to tears.
Genocide makes strange bedfellows.
"and some Salt-n-Pepa." I caught that Max! A tip of the hat to you, good sir.
whatta mighty good man
@@oldfrend 🤣
For anyone who's not from U.K English and Irish stews are equally delicious. Lots of love, spuds, and (white) pepper. Unbeatable.
The Choctaw factoid brought tears to my eyes. What a beautiful, caring, selfless act of love. 😭😭😭
probably the reason you got different answers for the irish at the start of the video is because there are different dialects of irish from different areas of the country that survived as bastions of the language when it was being killed out by the british
Don't forget scottish and Manx Gaelic which also have the same words and sounds but spelled/pronounced different.
The British were attempting to kill anything non British sadly. Not much has changed - 'see Brexit!
Yea, my very first thought was "DIALECTS" and then "I wonder if one of them was in the dialect I've been learning (Ulster)".
@@MudHut67 I was being facetious. As a Brit I apologise!
@@peteinuk The European Union has had awful effects on many countries in Europe, I will not fault the British for wanting to leave.
As a Russian, I sympathize with the Irish A LOT, and even more so after this dish, since we used to eat a very similar stew when I was a kid and we were struggling. If there is a god, then potatoes sure are his blessing.
Thank the Andes peoples who invented them.
Historians have written that the most valuable item from the New World (Peru) to arrive in Europe was the potato.
@@BoBo-ti6jh indeed
@@Myzelfa of course, why would I exclude them from praises for something they cultivated? :)
My grandfather Who was born in 1913 passed away some years ago. His last name is MCcarty. He use to tell me about his father's father when I was a young lad. The MCcarty family supposedly came to America because of the potato famine. My grandfather married a Dalton in the south, and my mom married a Ball from Gatlinburg. Irish blood runs deep in my family as well as Nordic and some French. This stew looks amazing, and it's on my list of thing to eat very soon.
Victoria was known as the famine queen in Ireland. On the west coast of Ireland most of the houses are brightly painted. The reason for this supposedly is when Victoria die they were told to paint the doors black. The Irish being the Irish painted their house is brilliant colors sounds like something the Irish would do.
This is so much like the Caribbean beef stew I grew up eating, which requires NO water. My mother was emphatic about this when I was a kid and she taught me how to make it: NO WATER, at all. The juices of the meat, and those released by some of the vegetables as the dish STEWED for a long time, over a very low fire, would be more than enough.
I do something similar but I make it in my lidded casserole in the oven, that way its guaranteed not to burn and you can leave it all day.
as an irish person living in ireland i'd like to really commend you on not only your pronounciation but the history!! ireland exporting plenty of goods and foods during the famine is often extremely overlooked so thank you
We may be related, just fyi
Definitely overlooked. When I learned that part when I did a project on this topic I had to pause and absorb it all. That really changes everything.
"I stole Trevelyan's corn
"So the young might see the morn.
"Now a prison ship lies waiting in the bay." The Fields of Athen Rye
the relationship between the indigenous peoples of north america and the irish is as beautiful as it is sad. united in oppression and suffering, even across an ocean- and it persists to this day, too.
"It's kind of like...too horrible not to be true"
That resonated on a deep level. We would get along quite well.
Prefacing a hearty meal with a traumatising story and finishing with poetry afterwards - perfect Irish table manners lmao. Happy Paddy's day!
So true!
The reason why St. Patty'sDay is bigger in US than Ireland is the same reason why Cinquo de Mayo is bigger in US than in Mexico: the Collective Marketing Ingenuity of the American Alcohol Industry.
Immigrants missing home and celebrating their culture and heritage or capitalism bad. I wonder which one is closer to the truth
@@dylanb4494 Oh it is Capitalism. I read about this before. I am not sure if they celebrate St Patty's Day in Ireland, but they didn't seem to celebrate Cinquo de Mayo in Mexico when I lived there.
Yes because we celebrate Saint Patrick's day and not Saint Patty's day. The only Patty I know of is Patty from The Simpsons.
@@alexandercampbell7903 They do actually celebrate Staint Patricks day in Ireland because they saw it as a celebration of Irish heritage and wanted to incorporate that celebration into Ireland.
@@dylanb4494 @Alexander Campbell There's probably some truth to both of your theories.
My guess is that some people started missing their countries, and celebrated cultural heritage more than in home just to feel like home. Then when American capitalism saw an opportunity to make money, they overly commercialized it.
Capitalism is more reactionary than creative.
This stew looks divine! Have you ever tried making a Dublin Coddle? It's made with potatoes and leftover breakfast foods as a way of not wasting food. But it's delicious with a bit of dill and Irish butter!
I have direct ancestors who were Choctaw and removed who were on the trail of tears, as well as Irish ancestors who dealt with the potato famine in County Cork. When my mom told me about the donation some years back I was floored. Just amazing to me, and they had suffered so much themselves!
"Michael they have taken you away,
For you stole Trevelyan's corn
So the young might see the morn,
Now a prison ship lies waiting in the bay"
Low lie the fields of Athenry
@@yriafehtivan Where once we watched the small free birds fly
This was a fascinating, if incredibly heartbreaking, history to learn about. I knew some of it, as part of my family are from Ireland, but didn't really know the ins and outs of how callous the british government was. My great-grandma would have been horrified though at the idea of peeling the potatoes, because she said that was were all the goodness lived, and she would have boiled a whole ham leg to feed her sons who worked on the London docks!
Thank you for enlightening me on the Irish and Choctaw Indian and the whole Irish famine dilemma❤️
Gym Leader St. Patrick taught trainers about the holy trinity by using Dugtrio's trinitarian form.
In Catholic school they definitely taught us that when it comes to saints, you gotta catch 'em all.
🤣
This is better than any Pokemon fact I could include!
Although I am now comparing Dugtrio's unknown lower body with the ineffability of the Trinity...
and he hates the Snake gym
I gotta send a screenshot of this to our new priest. He gave up Pokemon Go for Lent. :D
Irish and natives have a long lasting respect for one another.
Seeing the Irish donate to my people for covid has left such a warm feeling within me.
♥️♥️♥️
As a proud Irish man i am very happy to to see we do and will always have a lasting love for each other because inspite of invading nations and horrible treatment, we survive and persevere but never forget. the same with the Mexican people during the american mexican war where we fought on the american side, then found out how the mexicans were treated then changed sides and fought with the mexicans as we saw their plight as being very similar to our own.
Its fitting for two peoples who have felt the stings of oppression to bond together.
Watching from Ireland 😉,
We both have a difficult past,
Stay well.......
Thanks ROBERT 😉😉😉😉
@@robertfields4836 Uh
thats your own comment my dude
My Irish ancestor was a young lad about 16, (in the 1600's) was kidnapped by a English sea captain taken to the Va. Colony and sold as an Indenture servant. My Great Great Grandmother came over in 1845 with 5 children. (McCulley, Murphy, Neals)
The number of times I have tried to explain to people that the Irish were among the first slaves in the US. Indentured servant, ha! They would never be freed. No family, no money, no education.
Your Irish was on point. With variations of dialect and context, it was clear, understandable, and grammatically correct. A+
Interesting historical fact:
Part of the reason the Irish may have avoided going to the much closer Europe was because it was basically actively on fire with revolutions at the time. Like all of it.
And Sweden and famine dealt with the blight too. Minor scale compared to Irish, but 1 million swedes immigrated to USA in the period. In Denmark we were more lucky, because we had crop rotation, and potatoes was just become relatively recent addiction, but important crop, but still starvation in lower classes(but true heaven to compared to Ireland and Sweden). In Scandinavia the blight is called Potato pest, because of the lethality for the crop and people.
@@ellerikke3948 True, though Denmark was also dealing with one of the aforementioned revolutions (the March Revolution) and the first Schleswig War, so kind of a triple whammy there.
it's almost like losing a huge part of your food supply might have some difficult political consequences :/
@@OhSome1HasThisName That was not the cause of these revolutions. You may be thinking of the first French Revolution.
The 1848 Revolutions, including the March Revolution, were mostly about unfair representation.
@@G12G4 most historians agree the 1848 revs were at least partially caused by harvest failures across Europe in 1846/7 (esp the failure of potato crops)
Hey man, I lost my mother yesterday but I absolutely appreciate the distraction you’re giving me. It’s been really hard to calm down but just hearing you gently and calmly dictate out the ingredients and history of the dish has really made it easier for me to take my mind off of it.
Sorry for your loss amigo.
His voice is fantastically therapeutic. I'm sorry for your loss *hug*
Condolences on your loss.
*hugs from random internet person*
Hugs and condolences from Belgium.
Traditional Irish Music? My Little Armalite?, My Old Man's a Provo?, Kinky Boots? Me too, I love that traditional Irish music!
This basic concept works well with lamb, pork, chicken and beef. If you're a bit short on onion a leek will substitute. If you're a bit short on bacon a knob of butter and a bit of smoke salt will work. Using a half vegetable soup dice in the water will do wonders. If your pepper grinder is adjustable, set it to very coarse, and don't be shy with it. In fact, going all but ham-fisted on the pepper is preferable.
It really doesn't have to be any more complicated that this: Potato dice, meat dice, bacon/smoked ham, onion/leek, salt and pepper. Though I do think parsley works well as an addition.
I was surprised to hear of the Choctaw Nation donating what they could to the Irish at the time. I have lived in Southeast Oklahoma where the Choctaw Nation has it's roots all of my life and can't recall ever hearing of that. This is why I love this channel, I can even learn things about history that's close to me and my family. (I have Native American and Irish roots so this is really cool.)
The Irish are familiar with the story!
Of course not. No decent people go on about the gifts they have made. The people who receive the gifts go on about it if the gift is particularly appreciated.
And then, during Covid-19, the Irish sent hundreds of thousands of dollars to the Navajo Nation and the Hopi Reservation in a gesture of thanks.
Being someone who works in an Irish pub, i can tell you, in the 4 months I've worked there, I've peeled over 9 times my body weight in potatoes
My half Irish grandma’s fried potatoes were fabulous. As a little kid I’d sit with her and I’d peel she’d slice!
This one is close to my heart. My great grand parents came from Ireland due to the famine… thank you.❤️
Max, thank you for this recipe. I have just made this Irish stew. Delicious! I would have normally added so much more to a Irish stew. But I stuck to this recipe, and it is so amazingly good. Recommend making double, it really is that good!
My grandmother was irish. She used to work in the family bed & breakfast/room & board. She used to make hominy w/a lot of pepper in it, fried cabbage, & fried apple pies as she used to cook for my mom when she lived w/us. These were all made from scratch. I sure do miss her cooking. Thank you max for the introduction to irish stew & the history.
Well I cried. My family heritage is native American and irish. This made me cry. And that they sent what little they had. I'm honestly floored. My family came together native and irish and then to know one side sent the other money... touching and inspiring.
The same for me, Irish and Cherokee
What makes this even better is during covid, Ireland sent 3 million euros worth of covid relief to native Americans
I'm French Canadian with Irish ancestry, most likely they came at the beginning of the famine from the records I could find. This bit really made me emotional, cause we rarely hear these kind of stories of support between Europeans and Native Americans. I wish I was thought these parts in school instead of regurgitating the same facts about tipis and mocassins every year. Our history is so rich, but so much has been hidden because of the colonial lense
In Sweden we have a sailors stew pretty close to this stew however we do not add bacon to it. For 4 servings: 500 grams of beef ( sirloin or silversteak) 2 onions, 7-8 medium potatoes (firm) 2 tbs butter, 1 tsp salt 1/2 tsp fresh ground black pepper, 33 cl dark beer, 300 ml water and a beefstock cube.
turn on the oven to 200 C peel and slice onions and potatoes, brown the meat in 1 tbsp butter put it on a plate and season with salt and pepper. fry the onions in the rest of the butter in the pan mix beer water and beefstock and let the cube melt. layer meat, potatoes and onions in a pan that can go in the oven pout over the beer mixture and put in the oven at lowest point and cook for about 45-60 minutes. Remove lid after 30 minutes, serve with chopped parsley, salty pickles and pickled beetroot. It can also simmer on top of the stove for about the same time but check it more often then. And like all stews it is better the next day :)
Omg you just make my day. I'm so addicted in these sad times to you hygge videos. I love the chahktaw (spelling?) Part of the story. It made me teary eyed. What a wonderful thing. Oh bless your little tartan socks. Much love and admiration from NZ.
My orphaned gg uncle was shipped off to Tasmania ~ maybe onward to Crimea at 14 ~ Bradley ~ many in Tasmania
When I lived in Galway, Ireland there was this place that served Irish stew, the stew was dark and when I asked why they said it was the Guinness, apparently the recipe is the same except they add Guinness instead of water, it was really good and now I'm back in my home country (Portugal) and I still make Irish stew with guinness.
Speaking of Portugal, you must do stone soup, there is a legend behind it and everything, very historically significant for Portugal.
Stone soup sounds very familiar, for some reason I think we read a story about Stone soup in Kindergarten or maybe Stone soup just happened to be in the story, idk.
Stone/ nail soup is so cross culrural, it’s wonderful
Omg the Irish stew with the Guinness sounds so good 😋!
OH MY GOD YES! Guinness in beef stew is one of the most wonderful things on the entire planet, I've done it that way ever since I was a kid (I was a weird kid)!
Something I've learned recently is that literally ALL stew is good with a can (or more) of beer in it! I've tried all sorts of stuff from IPA's, to stouts (my favorite), porters are good too, heck I've even used a regular ol' Budweiser before and even that made a substantial difference!
And plus, that way you can get the 4 pack, pour one in and drink the other 3 while all those wonderful stew smells are wafting around the kitchen :)
@@idontwantahandlethough Do you still use some water in the stew as well or replace it entirely with the beer? Irish stew with Guinness sounds amazing
13:04 Not gonna lie, this section about the donation from the Choctaw actually made me tear up. First time I've choked up from a history video on UA-cam. History continually shows us that it is those who have suffered the most that are the most empathetic to the suffering of others.
Go raibh míle maith agat as an rang stair iontach seo! Tá stair na hÉireann fada agus lán le stracailt agus fulaingt, agus cuireann sé áthas i mo croí, ag adharc ar an léiriú soléir seo den Gorta Mór.
Gaelige is mo chri ❤
Yeah, we passed our recipes down, we didn't really write them down too often over the 800yr occupation
My grandmother used to place the meat in the stew on a string, cook the meat and veg ans rhen pull the meat out and put pounds and pounds of extra potatoes into the massive pot, and cook thwm. When they were cooked, the 11 kids got the veg and potatoes and the adults got the stew with the meat. There just wasn't enough to go around, even in the turn of the century.
Also, the famine was not just a natural catastrophe due to blight. It had a lot of help. I'm so glad you mentioned why we were dependant on one crop when we grew lots of different crops ! Most don't mention it