So as said at the start....hate making these. But it happened so need to be addressed. the water parameters in this tank just swung so badly very fast. I've never had this before so didn't read the signs that the shrimp were telling me. A few dying initially and then all being completely still...Inow know for the future and can show this to you guys as well so you don't make the same mistake I did. I'm still not sure what caused the parameter swing as all the other tanks are perfect, but thankfully, I seem to be on top of it now. Equipment (all links affiliate): Tanks: US amzn.to/2SOocHG UK amzn.to/2SPA24i Light: US (similar) amzn.to/2SNgbm7 UK amzn.to/2Fn9aW Asta Light: US amzn.to/3k9EmpY UK amzn.to/3p5XUPY LED FLoodlights: UK amzn.to/31KQwgQ amzn.to/359rp9J Racking: Shelving: US amzn.to/2SrYZ5k UK amzn.to/2GFWKJ2 Airpump (filter): US amzn.to/31z8FA9 UK amzn.to/37GIoUa Filter Sponges: US amzn.to/3dQLUfM UK amzn.to/3dS2k7K Media Bags: US amzn.to/34Kaf2N UK amzn.to/3lAj3z1 Stainless Lily Pipes: US amzn.to/2FqHpvR UK amzn.to/2RlfrnC Filter: US amzn.to/3iNeVtW UK amzn.to/2Fo774a Hardscape & Plants: www.aquariumgardens.co.uk/
Haven't had time to watch yet, but will later. Just to say this happened to me when I overfed fish in same tank. Changed from flakes to denser granules and a bunch of carbon rili shrimp died. Thanks for your vids!
I like how u upload videos everyday ! Im became addictive to ur channel always checking for new videos so keep it up great job probably best fish youtube channel out there
@@MDFishTanks Help Others is the key, And the reason your channel is the best for freshwater aquarium hobbyist and on its way to 500k subs. MD your enthusiasm and videos as well as plants, equipment and supplies from aquarium co-op are the reason my tanks are so successful. Keep up the great work and awesome content.
So I think the reason the shrimp deaths happened is due to the aquasoil. Usually whenever I do a new planted tank, I let the aquasoil age for about a month before I add any livestock. The ammonia tends to spike around week 2, and again around the end of week 3 before it evens out. During this time, I usually get some plant melt and pH fluctuations as well, which can contribute to instability in the cycle and smaller ammonia spikes. On another note, I actually loved the appearance of the algae in Timmy’s tank! At least the parts on the rocks, it looked very natural and helped bring the green background around towards the front 🥰
@@SpiritAquatics ammonia will turn into nitrites and then nitrates so in the long run it will take out the ammonia as well once the beneficial bacteria breaks it down. also he said etc and he isnt wrong plants can also take up ammonia in smaller quantities and use it as their source of nitrogen. dont correct someone when ur not correct yourself.
Im so happy you also show some "fails" and dead fish situations. All the other youtubers only show amazing tanks and fish and makes you feel that all goes well to them and they do all well while in the mean time a lot of people (beginners and pros) always experience this type of situations. .. thx alot !
@@MDFishTanks Can you do some sort of quick update on all the tanks you have? Just like 5 minutes or something in one of your next videos. I swear when you pan the camera I see tanks I forgot what they were. Doesnt have to be too detailed but I'm sure a lot of your audience would appreciate it
I have always read and found personally that shrimp must go in a well established aquarium. Moving a seasoned filter and or adding beneficial bacteria does not constitute well established a well established aquarium.
I agree, especially with Caridina. Usually the active substrates take a month or two to settle down and work properly. I'm not even sure this filter was properly seasoned, it really should have been running in a tank with similar bioload for a few weeks prior, or slowly adding shrimp until it was built up. Suddenly dumping 40 shrimp into a a few week old tank is a recipe for disaster.
Actually the test result is kind of weird. If the tank is not cycled, he shouldn't see the high nitrate unless he is dosing nitrate as fertilizer. I've never seen both high ammonia and nitrate readings like that. Bio-load is definitely not an issue. I had a few hundred CRS in a 10g before. I don't know how frequent he feeds but it seems like he is overfeeding when he does feed. The way he drained all the water that came with the shrimp and just dumped them into tank also made me cringe a little...
So sorry for your loss... looks like you did some quick action and now tank is fine again. Thanks for sharing your good and the bad. And CONGRATULATIONS 👏 on your 200k subscribers ! What a milestone!! Looking forward to more videos.
Bummer about the shrimp! At least you found the problem and did something about it before it got worse! Happened to me when I first started keeping shrimp
Dead and dying shrimp and fish is all part of the hobby, and I think it's great that you're showing that side of things, because lots of us (myself included) have experienced this and it can be devastating. Thank you I feel less alone.
I laughed so hard when you said "Who am I kidding, we all know its gonna be full of pearlweed" XD That and the red root floaters are really signature plants of yours ;)
I find shrimp hardly need feeding, once or twice a week and not a lot! Maybe add some beneficial bacteria in and feed less to help the issue 🤷🏻♀️ Good luck, love your vids!
Sad to hear about your shrimp, but not surprised! Tropica recomends to sysle the soil: Aquarium Soil is further an active bottom layer that lowers the pH value and slightly affects the water chemistry. We recommend that you change 25-50% of the water min. twice a week during the first 4 weeks after establishing the aquarium. They leak a lot of nutritions and ammonia the first days. Bet that is what spiked it, and killed em.
It's either this or the massive amount of other bio-active substrate compared to all of the other tanks. The solution is to move the shrimp to a cycled tank until this one is stable, not endless water changes. Absolutely no blame on the videographer, we've all done stuff like this when starting out; the lesson learned in this situation should be that any organic material or fertilizer going into your tank has the potential to cause elevated ammonia levels and set off this chain reaction. This is especially deadly with caridina, cause they are super super sensitive to ammonia. Bad luck mate, but the fact of the matter is they're not going to survive in this tank until it's cycled unless you do water changes every freakin day.
@@kylefalk8616 guaranteed that's what it was. I was watching the video of him redoing the tank and thinking there's no way that's gonna end well with those super delicate shrimp then came across this video. Not to mention the new soil with no biofilm for the shrimp to munch on.
Sad to find after all your care. I’m v new at this, but wondered, as Trey Reppe said, that the substrate is deeper than your other tanks? I read up a little, someone uses a bbq skewer to poke holes and release the gases that build up in it. Now I’m worried, my substrate is deep, I’m going to lower it. Thanks for sharing, we’re really enjoying the content.
Timmmy! Timmy. Love Timmy. Cant wait for the Aranchu crew tank- (swimming...) lalala, lalala. Thanks for this. Super helpful- always think I'll avoid the pitfalls then find myself frantically searching videos for advice. Carry on! Cheers to you and yours from the States.
"When pH drops to a low level, below pH 6, the beneficial bacteria can become dormant or even die, with the result that ammonia and nitrite begin to accumulate and fish start to suffer. If you have very soft water with a low level of carbonate hardness (kH) this can happen quite rapidly so regular partial water changes are absolutely vital if you have this kind of water." This is a possible reason I am not entirely sure there is more testing is required to make a judgment.
Please dont give up on your shrimp. Unfortunately it takes a well seasoned tank. I would never add caridina until a tank has been running for two months at the least. Thanks for showing people a valuable lesson.
You should try adding just a few more plants, not so much that it knocks off the scape but you need to stay on top of dead organisms in the tank and making sure that the plants are taking care of the ammonia in the tank.
I saw a vid where you fed them all the shrimp king food that you have. Did you remove the leftovers? So sorry for your loss. Anyway, I'm always here to support. Fan from the Philippies!! Much love
Man that sucks about the shrimp. I guess that's the hazard with keeping a nano tank with soft water. I'm glad you were able to catch it and save most of the shrimp though. I wouldn't be surprised if it was overstocked and that kicked everything off like you said. I think a good general rule is to keep 5 shrimp per gallon unless your tank is super well filtered. Regardless, I'm looking forward to what you do in the future. Always have to keep going right? You have so many cool projects coming up and I can't wait to see them all.
Drip back in large water changes in the future, you will have a way better change of survival after. Myself, and many other shrimp breeders do this and it's the best way to do large water changes. I do 10% a week and drip mine back also on my regulars. Glad they are doing better. Hope this helps, sorry for your loss.
Shrimp are particular when it comes to water parameters. Even if your ammonia, nitrate, nitrite are zero... you will still need the right Gh, Kh, and tds. They might not die right away in wrong parameters, it can take time. Good luck. 🍀
Great idea to use the Asian tanks water to refill the shrimp tank as apparently shrimp can be sensitive to putting tank water from the tap straight into the tank even with dechlorinator! Keep up the great work mate 👍🏻
Caradina shrimp need different water parameters to neos ( neos can adapt to caradina parameters) it did look all rushed. Caradina ideally need a mature set up. Not just a cycled filter. Also when drip acclimating them in it would have been better to do it from the tank you was putting them in. 40 shrimp won’t have much more of a bio load than 20. It was pretty much a brand new set up - that’s prob why they died. Should have checked your water tests. GH & KH & PH as well as the others. Also when adding water back into the tank it really should have been dripped back in to avoid any shock to the shrimp. (I only keep Caradina shrimp & im still learning) I like your honesty & willingness to learn & hope you enjoy keeping shrimp but it’s very different to the majority of all your other tanks.
They are very sensitive to the ammonia, I agree that it may have been too many for a tank that hasn't been established very long. A cycled tank and an established tank are 2 different things. I recommend adding an ammonia monitor they have some that stay in the tank it hangs with a suction cup and changes colors with ammonia spike. Also the Bacter AE is really good to add, since it's a new tank especially as it will help microflora grow that's a good source for the shrimp.
Hi MD, I'm so sorry about your shrimp. I know how hard it is not knowing how a beloved fish dies. Sometimes when you put down aquasoil or sand there will be pockets of air in that layer, and what happens is ammonia will build up in those air pockets. If some of those pockets burst from plants being moved, or the tank being shifted, the ammonia will be let into the water column. to prevent this all you have to do is put about an inch of water down on top of that layer and then using tweezers you can stir it all up and get all those air pockets out. I hope this helps, though I'm not sure if this was the cause of your problem. Best of luck
First and foremost MD so sad about your shrimp yep you're right that's part of the hobby that's part of the love in this game but I'm sure you'll do better next time we learn every day every single day we learn and secondly congratulations on your 200,000 subscribers and counting wishing you many many many more years to come and please don't ever leave the hobby I've learned so much from you you've inspired me to become an even greater hobbyist and love this hobby even more so congratulations once again and onward my friend!!
Hey MD, just to let you know that Prime or other dechlorinators can neutralise the ammonia and nitrite for up to 24 hours. So if you encounter another situation like this, you can use dechlorinators until you get the water parameters back in healthy levels. You can test this by putting a couple of drops of Prime into the tested tank tubes, the color should change back to 0 levels.
I had the same thing happen. I test my water one to two times a week because of it. I also started to drip the water in after a water change. This was a tip from another Shrimp keeper in Norway. He drips the new water in the tank so there is no big change in the water temps and conditions. It takes much longer.
Hi MD! We can only learn from our mistakes! I was thinking could it be the thicker layer of aquasoil leaching ammonia in the water? That on top of smaller water changes not to shock the shrimps and a small sponge filter? I noticed that you have a lot less aquasoil in other cubes Big follower from Belgium, love your content and looking at your growth rate, you are doing great things! Take care, Luigi
You’re seriously the best bro. You inspired me to to get into planted aquariums. I always look forward to seeing your videos. Thanks for always being so personable, amazing content 🤘🏼
I’m pretty sure most active substrates tend to cause an ammonia spike when they’re first put in an aquarium. I know ADA does, and I usually have to let it sit and do water changes for a month before it stops. I think the fresh tropica soil you added might have caused the issue.
MD have a look at what substrate are you using and try to change it with a substrate for shrimp, that should keep your parameters in check, also check your PH daily to monitor water fluctuations Or maybe the strain of shrimp that you bought is not that good( it happens when the shrimp were just imported and did not adjust to the water, temperature here in the UK) Good luck mate awesome job!!!
Hey dude, It's Stephen Singh from Bristol - England. I can safely say your not doing anything wrong, you are doing a wonderful job in the fish keeping world, I have met and know experts who make big mistakes in the fish keeping world, there are numerous reasons why these things happen, Fish keeping is like gambling - It's either win or lose, I lost my favourite female beta fish not so long ago and nitrate and nitrite were the reasons behind it, so this is just a message to say keep going don't give up and I'm offering you a lot of reassurance and support and comfort, I'm not saying it's ok because my fish died it's ok your crustal shrimps did too, I'm saying mistakes happen whether it's our fault or not. That is the fish keeping world common area's. (MISTAKES OCCURING) lots of love - Stephen Singh from Bristol England, My mum says I'm a mistake she regrets giving birth to me !!!
Unless you have tested the water frequently from the start it will be difficult to pin point the issue. 1. Filters are not established enough for the bio load. 2. Ammonia continuing to leach from new tropica soil added plus small water vol will exacerbate this issue. 3. Sudden increase in bio load - shrimps, food, plant die off are contributing factors. Recommend, daily water testing for the next week and dosing beneficial bacteria including frequent water changes if levels rise. Or you may also consider adding a small amount of established media or substrate to tank. Just lying it on the relatively new substrate will help. Good luck
I know what your going through. I recently started my first shrimp tank. Just 15 cherry shrimp from Petco. Lost a few and felt terrible. I feel like it’s my inexperience that cost the little guys their lives
5:40 "little timmy doesn't produce a lot of waste" I learned, the hard way, that too few nutrients can also cause algae to grow and bloom. The plants quickly utilize what they can and the nutrients that are left over go to feeding algae. The algae can eventually take over. There is an imbalance of nutrients, so the plants cant fully utilize all the nutrients. Like needing to wait for a straw to sip your drink.
I have a suggestion for the Amazon tank. As you use Otocinclus in almost all your tanks you could do something really cool with them in the Amazon tank, as that's where they are from. For some time now I've had my eyes on the Otocinclus cocama or zebra Otocinclus. It's a beautiful fish with white stripes that contain a shade of blue. They are more expensive than say Otocinclus vittatus but still not crazy expensive, here they are 15 euro's a piece and most fish stores should be able to order them in, at least in the Netherlands. I really think it will add that little bit of uniqueness to the Amazon tank. Also for the rocket killies, I've housed them with blue dream and yellow shrimps and they don't seem to bother them. They might snack on one occasionally, but the shrimp numbers have always been on the increase for me.
Hello MD, I just found your channel and i love it. Even more cause you are honest showing fails. Having crystals Every morning starts with a ltl prayer when entering the room With that tank. I have plenty shrimp tanks with plenty differierent shrimps. But its alltimes the crystals causing this panic moments. One day everything is awesome And they are breeding, but the next day entering the room is like “omg, what happened now again?” I am most of the time not able to address the reason really. The tanks are running stable for month and all of the sudden, all babies are dead, or the adults struggle.. Or i for some miracle lost all females while The males did well… Just a short picture of years with crysals…. They keep shocking me. 😂 May i ask you for the brand of the tests you used? They look way better than the ones i use. Please keep doing this channel. I love it.
I live in a soft water area and I test GH and KH and use shrimp cubes to get a higher KH to buffer the water so I don’t get PH swings. So the beneficial bacteria doesn’t crash or anything go out of balance. Keep measuring everything in that tank to check it because likely that one water change isn’t likely to fix the issue. Massive spikes like that have a cause :( sorry for your loss. Shrimp are great but sensitive. 20 isn’t too much if the tank is stable. I have a colony of approaching 40 in 5gal including babies and it’s fine.
Hi MD, I love that you keep it real with us! Maybe a tip for the next time you have to do such a big waterchange on your shrimps; try to drip the new water in, that way the shock is less aggressive😊 But I hope you will never have to use this tip🙈
Frankly speaking, true shrimp breeders always cycle tank for 1 month minimum, regardless of using everything old. Your tanks are way too new for any shrimps. Fishes can handle but shrimps need extremely stable paramaters. Max 10% weekly wc.
CRS are heavy (Gh high and Kh low... what) One tip for nitr.te control: floating plants. They can handle all of the nitri/ate very well and provide grazing place so shrimp are able to eat some of the surface biofilm. You just have to be carefull when throwing away the owergrowth (cuz baby shrimp love to hide in these)
Hey MD, Maybe a driftwood in the tank would be great..You yan see them climbing up and down which looks cool Maybe a waterfall with very low flow could you more insights into their acrobatics..Happened to see one on the channel "Foo the Flowerhorn"..
A small tank is as you said very easy to upset the balance in. Compared to the other tanks it has less plant mass which and more shrimp. So I would at least try to increase the plant mass. I've had the most success with heavily planted shrimp tanks (mostly just moss and floaters) and doing the 3 shrimp for each liter rule (with the minimum starting size being 10l) I got told by someone that kept and bred shrimp for decades. This way you can maintain a healthy breeding colony with a buffer for if something goes wrong.
I had a massive nitrite spike in one of my tanks once caused by aquatic compost leaching ammonia and nitrite into the water and it took a good month to settle, even with a very established large canister filter. Seachem prime is good if you have ammonia spikes (in conjunction with water changes of course) as it stays active in the water for a couple of days. On the more expensive side but you need hardly any of it.
I guess, the problem was the aclimation period before you put in live-stock. I know you always pre-cycle your filters, but sometimes the bacteria settle somewhere else in the cycleing tank. When the filter is then "cycle" it does not hold enough bacteria colony to cover your new tank. When you then put in a lot of fauna into it, the ammonia spike is going to happen, sooner if the live-stock is great and the filter is sterile, later when the live-stock is great but the filter is a 30% bacterial capacity. I will suggest to always acclimate your tank to 5x live-stock for 2 weeks. This is the average time for the nitrate cycle to cycle once. Good luck in the future! On another note, just change your water more often, you might loose 1-2 animals, if oyu have sensitice shrimps but its less than 5/25.
My Shrimp seller always preaches to remove the wheights from the plants which you use to keep them down and hold them together for shrimp Tanks... didnt do it before and paid the price
Amount of shrimp is not the problem as it's about 10/gallon. Shrimp are very sensitive. Any change in water parameters can be dangerous. It's recommended with neocaridina or caridina to use purified water and add in the proper amount of minerals. Using something like Seachem Equilibrium to get a TDS of around 220.
@@Hellacop6 look how many tanks this man has and had. There where a lot of tanks, and like 96% succes. I think hes good with shrimp and fish. Look at his tanks, he knows what he's doing
If you've put the shrimp in the same day as scaping the tank you will put them in danger. New substrate almost always cause an ammonia spike within the first week to get the plants going.
(Translated with the help of an online translator) it is better to underfeed shrimp than overfeed Them. In addition to the food that you give them, they eat bacterial plaque on plants, dead plant particles. The aquarist bred expensive shrimps for sale, costing more than 20 euros apiece. He told me that he fed the shrimp 2 times a week. Even if you feed the shrimp once every 10-14 days, nothing will happen to them. The number of shrimp colonies is regulated independently, unlike fish. The number of shrimps is usually undulating - at some point there is a surge in the birth rate of shrimps and their large numbers. Then comes a period of decline.
I am here in the U.S. and like your channel and aqua-scaping. I have red cherry shrimp and my initial batch died on me and I couldn’t figure out why until I read an article that indicated that the conditioner that you use for your fish still may not remove all of the bad snuff for shrimp out of the water, so I don’t know if they sell this product in the U.K. but if they do I have not lost a shrimp since using it and they are multiplying like little rabbits. Seachem Prime Fresh and Saltwater Conditioner
So as said at the start....hate making these. But it happened so need to be addressed. the water parameters in this tank just swung so badly very fast. I've never had this before so didn't read the signs that the shrimp were telling me. A few dying initially and then all being completely still...Inow know for the future and can show this to you guys as well so you don't make the same mistake I did. I'm still not sure what caused the parameter swing as all the other tanks are perfect, but thankfully, I seem to be on top of it now.
Equipment (all links affiliate):
Tanks: US amzn.to/2SOocHG UK amzn.to/2SPA24i
Light: US (similar) amzn.to/2SNgbm7 UK amzn.to/2Fn9aW
Asta Light: US amzn.to/3k9EmpY UK amzn.to/3p5XUPY
LED FLoodlights: UK amzn.to/31KQwgQ amzn.to/359rp9J
Racking: Shelving: US amzn.to/2SrYZ5k UK amzn.to/2GFWKJ2
Airpump (filter): US amzn.to/31z8FA9 UK amzn.to/37GIoUa
Filter Sponges: US amzn.to/3dQLUfM UK amzn.to/3dS2k7K
Media Bags: US amzn.to/34Kaf2N UK amzn.to/3lAj3z1
Stainless Lily Pipes: US amzn.to/2FqHpvR UK amzn.to/2RlfrnC
Filter: US amzn.to/3iNeVtW UK amzn.to/2Fo774a
Hardscape & Plants: www.aquariumgardens.co.uk/
Haven't had time to watch yet, but will later. Just to say this happened to me when I overfed fish in same tank. Changed from flakes to denser granules and a bunch of carbon rili shrimp died. Thanks for your vids!
I also do keep shrimps and for me u should actually keep algae in your tank, keep them healthy evwn tho your plants dont like it
I like how u upload videos everyday ! Im became addictive to ur channel always checking for new videos so keep it up great job probably best fish youtube channel out there
You sure there wasn't any death, plant or shrimp, that may have cause the spike? That tank should be big enough for 80-100 without an issue
Gh and kh?
Always the real deal no matter what the outcome is, MD is real and upfront about every aspect of his studio.
I do try to be. I'm still new to this game and learning as I go so think it's best to show everything and help others.
@@MDFishTanks Help Others is the key, And the reason your channel is the best for freshwater aquarium hobbyist and on its way to 500k subs. MD your enthusiasm and videos as well as plants, equipment and supplies from aquarium co-op are the reason my tanks are so successful. Keep up the great work and awesome content.
I always feel weird "liking" a video when the animals die but I do like how MD shows the good with the bad. It helps us all learn.
So I think the reason the shrimp deaths happened is due to the aquasoil. Usually whenever I do a new planted tank, I let the aquasoil age for about a month before I add any livestock. The ammonia tends to spike around week 2, and again around the end of week 3 before it evens out. During this time, I usually get some plant melt and pH fluctuations as well, which can contribute to instability in the cycle and smaller ammonia spikes. On another note, I actually loved the appearance of the algae in Timmy’s tank! At least the parts on the rocks, it looked very natural and helped bring the green background around towards the front 🥰
Throw in some floating plants to suck up the extra ammonia etc.
on it. nice one.
They'll take up the nitrates for sure. I'd also add more fast growing stem plants too...can never have too many in a nano tank for shrimp.
Plants don't suck up much amonia but they will lower the nitrate levels
@@SpiritAquatics Diana Walstad joined the chat.
@@SpiritAquatics ammonia will turn into nitrites and then nitrates so in the long run it will take out the ammonia as well once the beneficial bacteria breaks it down. also he said etc and he isnt wrong plants can also take up ammonia in smaller quantities and use it as their source of nitrogen. dont correct someone when ur not correct yourself.
Im so happy you also show some "fails" and dead fish situations. All the other youtubers only show amazing tanks and fish and makes you feel that all goes well to them and they do all well while in the mean time a lot of people (beginners and pros) always experience this type of situations. .. thx alot !
gotta keep it real :)
Timmy is so cute.. he came running out for his food.. lolz
Noticed you dropped the sponge filter down to increase aeration/oxygenation. I’m sure that helped too👍🏻 glad you didn’t lose them all mate!👌🏻 good job
yeah dont know why i didnt do that sooner!
@@MDFishTanks Can you do some sort of quick update on all the tanks you have? Just like 5 minutes or something in one of your next videos. I swear when you pan the camera I see tanks I forgot what they were. Doesnt have to be too detailed but I'm sure a lot of your audience would appreciate it
I have always read and found personally that shrimp must go in a well established aquarium. Moving a seasoned filter and or adding beneficial bacteria does not constitute well established a well established aquarium.
I agree, especially with Caridina. Usually the active substrates take a month or two to settle down and work properly. I'm not even sure this filter was properly seasoned, it really should have been running in a tank with similar bioload for a few weeks prior, or slowly adding shrimp until it was built up. Suddenly dumping 40 shrimp into a a few week old tank is a recipe for disaster.
Fully agree!! Even though it’s still aquariums, shrimps are a totally different hobby. It takes some time to learn the “tricks”
Meanwhile I'm sitting over here with happy shrimp tanks cycled in a couple weeks....
Actually the test result is kind of weird. If the tank is not cycled, he shouldn't see the high nitrate unless he is dosing nitrate as fertilizer. I've never seen both high ammonia and nitrate readings like that.
Bio-load is definitely not an issue. I had a few hundred CRS in a 10g before. I don't know how frequent he feeds but it seems like he is overfeeding when he does feed. The way he drained all the water that came with the shrimp and just dumped them into tank also made me cringe a little...
Thank you for your honesty ,it can’t be easy sharing this
Thank you for sharing both sides of the hobby. It helps to hear that the pros have the same problems.
oh im no pro lol.
@@MDFishTanks hey youre a pro aquascaper in our eyes at the very least haha
Well this tank has more substrate than the others too. So maybe more susceptible to some ammonia spikes .
Trials, tribulations and late night interventions.... The essence of a true hobbiest. Good job sir
I love when you show the fails/mistakes it helps all of us learn from them. we need more people like you!
So sorry for your loss... looks like you did some quick action and now tank is fine again. Thanks for sharing your good and the bad. And CONGRATULATIONS 👏 on your 200k subscribers ! What a milestone!! Looking forward to more videos.
Bummer about the shrimp! At least you found the problem and did something about it before it got worse! Happened to me when I first started keeping shrimp
I love that you are real talk no matter good bad or ugly. You are the man, MD!
Congratulations on 200k. Awesome. Shame about the shrimp but thank you for showing us when it doesn’t go well too.
Dead and dying shrimp and fish is all part of the hobby, and I think it's great that you're showing that side of things, because lots of us (myself included) have experienced this and it can be devastating.
Thank you I feel less alone.
Heyy MD hope your back on track with shrimps!!glade to be the first one here!!!☺️lots of love and support from India mate!!!🙏🏼👍🏼🇮🇳
I laughed so hard when you said "Who am I kidding, we all know its gonna be full of pearlweed" XD That and the red root floaters are really signature plants of yours ;)
I find shrimp hardly need feeding, once or twice a week and not a lot! Maybe add some beneficial bacteria in and feed less to help the issue 🤷🏻♀️ Good luck, love your vids!
Sad to hear about your shrimp, but not surprised!
Tropica recomends to sysle the soil:
Aquarium Soil is further an active bottom layer that lowers the pH value and slightly affects the water chemistry.
We recommend that you change 25-50% of the water min. twice a week during the first 4 weeks after establishing the aquarium.
They leak a lot of nutritions and ammonia the first days.
Bet that is what spiked it, and killed em.
I love the troubleshooting videos too. Thanks for the honesty!
Surprised no one mentioned the cause could be due to all the root tabs that were used during the setup of the tank.
It's either this or the massive amount of other bio-active substrate compared to all of the other tanks. The solution is to move the shrimp to a cycled tank until this one is stable, not endless water changes. Absolutely no blame on the videographer, we've all done stuff like this when starting out; the lesson learned in this situation should be that any organic material or fertilizer going into your tank has the potential to cause elevated ammonia levels and set off this chain reaction. This is especially deadly with caridina, cause they are super super sensitive to ammonia. Bad luck mate, but the fact of the matter is they're not going to survive in this tank until it's cycled unless you do water changes every freakin day.
@@TwoTreesStudio I agree 100%
@@kylefalk8616 guaranteed that's what it was. I was watching the video of him redoing the tank and thinking there's no way that's gonna end well with those super delicate shrimp then came across this video. Not to mention the new soil with no biofilm for the shrimp to munch on.
Sad to find after all your care. I’m v new at this, but wondered, as Trey Reppe said, that the substrate is deeper than your other tanks? I read up a little, someone uses a bbq skewer to poke holes and release the gases that build up in it. Now I’m worried, my substrate is deep, I’m going to lower it. Thanks for sharing, we’re really enjoying the content.
Timmmy! Timmy. Love Timmy. Cant wait for the Aranchu crew tank- (swimming...) lalala, lalala. Thanks for this. Super helpful- always think I'll avoid the pitfalls then find myself frantically searching videos for advice. Carry on! Cheers to you and yours from the States.
TIMMY !!! He's like having a Water Puppy!!!
I really enjoy that your always honest . In all of videos, hope everything turns around with tank.
love this video and how transparant you are with the process! loving the videos, and will binge watch a few more each day!
"When pH drops to a low level, below pH 6, the beneficial bacteria can become dormant or even die, with the result that ammonia and nitrite begin to accumulate and fish start to suffer. If you have very soft water with a low level of carbonate hardness (kH) this can happen quite rapidly so regular partial water changes are absolutely vital if you have this kind of water." This is a possible reason I am not entirely sure there is more testing is required to make a judgment.
Thank you for sharing your entire experience with so we can all learn from it. Great work 👍
Please dont give up on your shrimp. Unfortunately it takes a well seasoned tank. I would never add caridina until a tank has been running for two months at the least. Thanks for showing people a valuable lesson.
Sorry you lost some of your shrimps and thank you for sharing with us.
It's a learning curve for everyone.
Great vlog again 👍
You should try adding just a few more plants, not so much that it knocks off the scape but you need to stay on top of dead organisms in the tank and making sure that the plants are taking care of the ammonia in the tank.
Very sorry to hear about Pancho, but a big congrats on 200K! Now for 300k!
Check out Mark's shrimp. And is there copper in the fertilizer tabs?
Lol with the Adam Sandler clip 😂 we are all learning . Learning never ends 🌷
When do you have time to work and be a dad? You are so dedicated and I appreciate the time and education you put in your videos.
I saw a vid where you fed them all the shrimp king food that you have. Did you remove the leftovers? So sorry for your loss. Anyway, I'm always here to support. Fan from the Philippies!! Much love
Man that sucks about the shrimp. I guess that's the hazard with keeping a nano tank with soft water. I'm glad you were able to catch it and save most of the shrimp though. I wouldn't be surprised if it was overstocked and that kicked everything off like you said. I think a good general rule is to keep 5 shrimp per gallon unless your tank is super well filtered.
Regardless, I'm looking forward to what you do in the future. Always have to keep going right? You have so many cool projects coming up and I can't wait to see them all.
Drip back in large water changes in the future, you will have a way better change of survival after.
Myself, and many other shrimp breeders do this and it's the best way to do large water changes.
I do 10% a week and drip mine back also on my regulars.
Glad they are doing better.
Hope this helps, sorry for your loss.
As I follow you and your vlogs, I learn so very much... and I truly appreciate it!
Timmy is darn cute.
Congratulations on 200K subscribers. Well deserved mate.
Shrimp are particular when it comes to water parameters. Even if your ammonia, nitrate, nitrite are zero... you will still need the right Gh, Kh, and tds. They might not die right away in wrong parameters, it can take time. Good luck. 🍀
Great idea to use the Asian tanks water to refill the shrimp tank as apparently shrimp can be sensitive to putting tank water from the tap straight into the tank even with dechlorinator!
Keep up the great work mate 👍🏻
Sad to see you lost some shrimp take a step back mate it’s ok having all these tanks but things do suffer in time good luck
Caradina shrimp need different water parameters to neos ( neos can adapt to caradina parameters) it did look all rushed. Caradina ideally need a mature set up. Not just a cycled filter. Also when drip acclimating them in it would have been better to do it from the tank you was putting them in. 40 shrimp won’t have much more of a bio load than 20. It was pretty much a brand new set up - that’s prob why they died. Should have checked your water tests. GH & KH & PH as well as the others. Also when adding water back into the tank it really should have been dripped back in to avoid any shock to the shrimp. (I only keep Caradina shrimp & im still learning) I like your honesty & willingness to learn & hope you enjoy keeping shrimp but it’s very different to the majority of all your other tanks.
Mate....your managing alot of tanks.....thanks for keeping it real. Glad your have solved this issue.
They are very sensitive to the ammonia, I agree that it may have been too many for a tank that hasn't been established very long. A cycled tank and an established tank are 2 different things. I recommend adding an ammonia monitor they have some that stay in the tank it hangs with a suction cup and changes colors with ammonia spike. Also the Bacter AE is really good to add, since it's a new tank especially as it will help microflora grow that's a good source for the shrimp.
Hi MD, I'm so sorry about your shrimp. I know how hard it is not knowing how a beloved fish dies. Sometimes when you put down aquasoil or sand there will be pockets of air in that layer, and what happens is ammonia will build up in those air pockets. If some of those pockets burst from plants being moved, or the tank being shifted, the ammonia will be let into the water column. to prevent this all you have to do is put about an inch of water down on top of that layer and then using tweezers you can stir it all up and get all those air pockets out. I hope this helps, though I'm not sure if this was the cause of your problem. Best of luck
First and foremost MD so sad about your shrimp yep you're right that's part of the hobby that's part of the love in this game but I'm sure you'll do better next time we learn every day every single day we learn and secondly congratulations on your 200,000 subscribers and counting wishing you many many many more years to come and please don't ever leave the hobby I've learned so much from you you've inspired me to become an even greater hobbyist and love this hobby even more so congratulations once again and onward my friend!!
Hey MD, just to let you know that Prime or other dechlorinators can neutralise the ammonia and nitrite for up to 24 hours. So if you encounter another situation like this, you can use dechlorinators until you get the water parameters back in healthy levels. You can test this by putting a couple of drops of Prime into the tested tank tubes, the color should change back to 0 levels.
I personally think... that it's the substrate releasing ammonia and the reason, that tank is affected, is because it has more substrate 🤔
yep and root tabs, one of these is 100% the reason
@@TwoTreesStudio oh yes... the root tabs also and a fair few of them, if I remember rightly
Great video mate, keep up the amazing work, sorry about the loss of some of the shrimp. Keep up the amazing work tho
I had the same thing happen. I test my water one to two times a week because of it. I also started to drip the water in after a water change. This was a tip from another Shrimp keeper in Norway. He drips the new water in the tank so there is no big change in the water temps and conditions. It takes much longer.
Hi MD!
We can only learn from our mistakes! I was thinking could it be the thicker layer of aquasoil leaching ammonia in the water? That on top of smaller water changes not to shock the shrimps and a small sponge filter? I noticed that you have a lot less aquasoil in other cubes
Big follower from Belgium, love your content and looking at your growth rate, you are doing great things!
Take care,
Luigi
this soil does not leach ammonia. The ada soil...this is tropica. and thank you very much :)
You’re seriously the best bro. You inspired me to to get into planted aquariums. I always look forward to seeing your videos. Thanks for always being so personable, amazing content 🤘🏼
Congrats on the 200k subs bro
The Timmy came running for the food! So cute! 😍
Its the new aquasoil you put on top, after you scaped it. It leeches ammonia for a few weeks, to kickstart the cycle.
I’m pretty sure most active substrates tend to cause an ammonia spike when they’re first put in an aquarium. I know ADA does, and I usually have to let it sit and do water changes for a month before it stops. I think the fresh tropica soil you added might have caused the issue.
MD have a look at what substrate are you using and try to change it with a substrate for shrimp, that should keep your parameters in check, also check your PH daily to monitor water fluctuations
Or maybe the strain of shrimp that you bought is not that good( it happens when the shrimp were just imported and did not adjust to the water, temperature here in the UK)
Good luck mate awesome job!!!
just a piece of advice; shrimp like oxygen, put the sponge filter lower in the tank
Hey dude, It's Stephen Singh from Bristol - England. I can safely say your not doing anything wrong, you are doing a wonderful job in the fish keeping world, I have met and know experts who make big mistakes in the fish keeping world, there are numerous reasons why these things happen, Fish keeping is like gambling - It's either win or lose, I lost my favourite female beta fish not so long ago and nitrate and nitrite were the reasons behind it, so this is just a message to say keep going don't give up and I'm offering you a lot of reassurance and support and comfort, I'm not saying it's ok because my fish died it's ok your crustal shrimps did too, I'm saying mistakes happen whether it's our fault or not. That is the fish keeping world common area's. (MISTAKES OCCURING) lots of love - Stephen Singh from Bristol England, My mum says I'm a mistake she regrets giving birth to me !!!
Unless you have tested the water frequently from the start it will be difficult to pin point the issue.
1. Filters are not established enough for the bio load.
2. Ammonia continuing to leach from new tropica soil added plus small water vol will exacerbate this issue.
3. Sudden increase in bio load - shrimps, food, plant die off are contributing factors.
Recommend, daily water testing for the next week and dosing beneficial bacteria including frequent water changes if levels rise. Or you may also consider adding a small amount of established media or substrate to tank. Just lying it on the relatively new substrate will help.
Good luck
I know what your going through. I recently started my first shrimp tank. Just 15 cherry shrimp from Petco. Lost a few and felt terrible. I feel like it’s my inexperience that cost the little guys their lives
5:40 "little timmy doesn't produce a lot of waste" I learned, the hard way, that too few nutrients can also cause algae to grow and bloom. The plants quickly utilize what they can and the nutrients that are left over go to feeding algae. The algae can eventually take over. There is an imbalance of nutrients, so the plants cant fully utilize all the nutrients. Like needing to wait for a straw to sip your drink.
Excited about the new Amazon scape....got a new 45 gallon I'm planning to do Amazon as well! Love your channel, btw.
I have a suggestion for the Amazon tank. As you use Otocinclus in almost all your tanks you could do something really cool with them in the Amazon tank, as that's where they are from. For some time now I've had my eyes on the Otocinclus cocama or zebra Otocinclus. It's a beautiful fish with white stripes that contain a shade of blue. They are more expensive than say Otocinclus vittatus but still not crazy expensive, here they are 15 euro's a piece and most fish stores should be able to order them in, at least in the Netherlands. I really think it will add that little bit of uniqueness to the Amazon tank.
Also for the rocket killies, I've housed them with blue dream and yellow shrimps and they don't seem to bother them. They might snack on one occasionally, but the shrimp numbers have always been on the increase for me.
Hello MD,
I just found your channel and i love it.
Even more cause you are honest showing fails. Having crystals Every morning starts with a ltl prayer when entering the room
With that tank.
I have plenty shrimp tanks with plenty differierent shrimps. But its alltimes the crystals causing this panic moments.
One day everything is awesome
And they are breeding, but the next day entering the room is like “omg, what happened now again?”
I am most of the time not able to address the reason really.
The tanks are running stable for month and all of the sudden, all babies are dead, or the adults struggle..
Or i for some miracle lost all females while
The males did well…
Just a short picture of years with crysals….
They keep shocking me.
😂
May i ask you for the brand of the tests you used? They look way better than the ones i use.
Please keep doing this channel. I love it.
you should drip your water back into the shrimp tanks when doing a water change, this makes the change in water perameters happen slower
I live in a soft water area and I test GH and KH and use shrimp cubes to get a higher KH to buffer the water so I don’t get PH swings. So the beneficial bacteria doesn’t crash or anything go out of balance. Keep measuring everything in that tank to check it because likely that one water change isn’t likely to fix the issue. Massive spikes like that have a cause
:( sorry for your loss. Shrimp are great but sensitive.
20 isn’t too much if the tank is stable. I have a colony of approaching 40 in 5gal including babies and it’s fine.
Hi MD, I love that you keep it real with us! Maybe a tip for the next time you have to do such a big waterchange on your shrimps; try to drip the new water in, that way the shock is less aggressive😊 But I hope you will never have to use this tip🙈
40 shrimp isn't a problem. It's how quick you added them, to a small tank small filter, the bioload was too much all at once.
40 shrimp have an extremely negligible bio load. If I had to guess, it was the fresh tropica soil that caused the ammonia spike.
Frankly speaking, true shrimp breeders always cycle tank for 1 month minimum, regardless of using everything old. Your tanks are way too new for any shrimps. Fishes can handle but shrimps need extremely stable paramaters. Max 10% weekly wc.
thanks for the feedback :)
Couldn’t agree more, needs to calm down. Shrimps are sensitive.
@@MDFishTanks you are always welcome..😊 the reason is they need bio-film as much as algae, infact even more than algae. Best of luck.. Keep vloging..
He is being transparent tho 👻👻
It’s amazing that you have the guts to tell the truth. Your a great guy and accidents happen.🤷♂️
CRS are heavy (Gh high and Kh low... what) One tip for nitr.te control: floating plants. They can handle all of the nitri/ate very well and provide grazing place so shrimp are able to eat some of the surface biofilm. You just have to be carefull when throwing away the owergrowth (cuz baby shrimp love to hide in these)
Hey MD,
Maybe a driftwood in the tank would be great..You yan see them climbing up and down which looks cool
Maybe a waterfall with very low flow could you more insights into their acrobatics..Happened to see one on the channel "Foo the Flowerhorn"..
A small tank is as you said very easy to upset the balance in. Compared to the other tanks it has less plant mass which and more shrimp. So I would at least try to increase the plant mass.
I've had the most success with heavily planted shrimp tanks (mostly just moss and floaters) and doing the 3 shrimp for each liter rule (with the minimum starting size being 10l) I got told by someone that kept and bred shrimp for decades. This way you can maintain a healthy breeding colony with a buffer for if something goes wrong.
I had a massive nitrite spike in one of my tanks once caused by aquatic compost leaching ammonia and nitrite into the water and it took a good month to settle, even with a very established large canister filter. Seachem prime is good if you have ammonia spikes (in conjunction with water changes of course) as it stays active in the water for a couple of days. On the more expensive side but you need hardly any of it.
I'm super excited for the Amazon aquarium. Just based off of the stand I feel like it'll look like something from the zoo
I guess, the problem was the aclimation period before you put in live-stock. I know you always pre-cycle your filters, but sometimes the bacteria settle somewhere else in the cycleing tank. When the filter is then "cycle" it does not hold enough bacteria colony to cover your new tank. When you then put in a lot of fauna into it, the ammonia spike is going to happen, sooner if the live-stock is great and the filter is sterile, later when the live-stock is great but the filter is a 30% bacterial capacity. I will suggest to always acclimate your tank to 5x live-stock for 2 weeks. This is the average time for the nitrate cycle to cycle once. Good luck in the future!
On another note, just change your water more often, you might loose 1-2 animals, if oyu have sensitice shrimps but its less than 5/25.
My Shrimp seller always preaches to remove the wheights from the plants which you use to keep them down and hold them together for shrimp Tanks... didnt do it before and paid the price
Amount of shrimp is not the problem as it's about 10/gallon. Shrimp are very sensitive. Any change in water parameters can be dangerous. It's recommended with neocaridina or caridina to use purified water and add in the proper amount of minerals. Using something like Seachem Equilibrium to get a TDS of around 220.
This is why MD is good. It's hard to make this, but its good to share this. Thank youband love MD!
If he were that good shrimps wouldn’t have died. Has he at least cycled tanks? Always in a hurry isn’t good in this hobby...
@@Hellacop6 look how many tanks this man has and had. There where a lot of tanks, and like 96% succes. I think hes good with shrimp and fish. Look at his tanks, he knows what he's doing
And I don't think he is hurrying when you cycled tanks for a month.....
@@aqua2084 he hasn’t cycled lots of his tanks like the one with ember tetra...I mean having a lot of tanks doesn’t prove anything man. ;)
MD congrats on the 200K subs buddy! Keep it real.
go to 5:09 if u want to see Timmy coming out from the rock gaps, its freaking cute! hahah
If you've put the shrimp in the same day as scaping the tank you will put them in danger.
New substrate almost always cause an ammonia spike within the first week to get the plants going.
In the future you could drip in that water, make it take like 6 hours to fill up 3-4 gallons? Lookin great man
That’s why I don’t mess with the fancy shrimp.. they’re too sensitive.. Can’t be babying shrimp!
(Translated with the help of an online translator) it is better to underfeed shrimp than overfeed Them. In addition to the food that you give them, they eat bacterial plaque on plants, dead plant particles. The aquarist bred expensive shrimps for sale, costing more than 20 euros apiece. He told me that he fed the shrimp 2 times a week. Even if you feed the shrimp once every 10-14 days, nothing will happen to them.
The number of shrimp colonies is regulated independently, unlike fish. The number of shrimps is usually undulating - at some point there is a surge in the birth rate of shrimps and their large numbers. Then comes a period of decline.
I am surprised you haven't looked into a
Black Ghost Knifefish, I have 2 and they are amazing to watch.
Get well soon pancho. Hope to see him in the new studio soon
I had the same issue last week with my shrimp. Also, clipping plants can irritate shrimp as well.
Spinal Tap's 2nd drummer Mick Shrimpton suffered a similar mysterious death when he sponteanously combusted
I am here in the U.S. and like your channel and aqua-scaping. I have red cherry shrimp and my initial batch died on me and I couldn’t figure out why until I read an article that indicated that the conditioner that you use for your fish still may not remove all of the bad snuff for shrimp out of the water, so I don’t know if they sell this product in the U.K. but if they do I have not lost a shrimp since using it and they are multiplying like little rabbits. Seachem Prime Fresh and Saltwater Conditioner
You have become my favourite fish youtuber.. thanks for the content and keep it coming 👍
Not good , but good you show us everything which happens.