For what? you can't just investigate them because you feel like it. Better yet, don't buy a home where there's an HOA. Or if you live in one rally the neighborhood to not pay dues and remove them. I used to live in a neighborhood with an HOA, I don't now and never will again. No HOA chips in on my mortgage payments so they have no say as far as I'm concerned.
Agreed. I had my reservations.. Was renting for a few years a condo..like the neighborhood, opted to purchase when timing was right. Bought TownHome in same development..11-12 years ago.. All my qualms confirmed.😮😢.. Love our space ..fed up with “THEM”.
That's why I'm having a hard time getting a house. Every move in ready or new home is HOA and is driving my mad because I don't want any HOA. It's frustrating having to pay an extra tax to people for them to tell me what to do and steal from me too! C'mon man😒
Also should include manufactured home parks. A lot of them come up with phony rules based of misinterpreted state laws. Or the make up things quoting them as laws when research shows nothing at the state, county or local level. A lot of the folks there are living on a fixed income and have no other other options.
@@bobm1394 Why car mechanics? ....so that you can be swindled into paying hundreds if not thousands of dollars to a car dealer every time you bring your car in for service?
@@miamiliving6625- 18,000 units x $359 means they’re collecting $6,462,000.00 a year. They should be charging $50 a year instead of $359. The goal of the HOA should be to have enough money to cover the cost of maintaining the pools and landscaping. There’s not a snowball’s chance in Hell that costs anywhere close to the money they’re collecting.
@Saint Michael it was 44.5$ a month or close to that number. the 4 million missing aren't just what we paid they also took a loan for 2 millions and we don't know why they took the loan. now we have to deal with money stolen from us and its us home owners who have to pay the loan
@@Dannysphotography not how it works.... you better have a legitimate gripe or you will be held in contempt and charged BTW... FTC has zero to do with it ;-) im sure we're all impressed with your misuse of an agency you have overheard.
I'm TERRIFIED of buying a house with an HOA, and it's getting harder and harder to find one that isn't part of an HOA. WHEN is the damn gov't going to step in and STOP this insane abuse?!
Don't do it...trust me when I tell you, I woke up one morning and there was a man in my front yard with a wooden 1966 ruler moving it left and then right. So I walk outside and asked him what he was doing, and he said he was from HOA and he was measuring the grass. I don't remember the exact height that was allowed but he was finding 1 blade 1/16" taller than the rest and once he had a particular number in.a 3x3 sq. he informed me that I was in violation and I would be receiving the boards decision. $800 because there was 5 blades over the number allowed which was total disregard for the standards approved by the board and because there was complete and total disregard he doubles it from the standard $400 to $800. It's never ending
This is true. My brother moved into a condo and the condo was going into foreclosure less than a year after he moved in. The board misappropriated the funds and it took over 2 years to replace the board and hire lawyers to right the ship. SMH
I love our little made up HOA, we each pay $50 a month for a couple of neighborhood kids (12-17yrs old) to do the landscaping, snow removal and minor maintenance. Great bunch of hardworking youths.
Remember that story about the lady who got sued by the homeowners association because she wanted documentation of what they were spending and she almost went to jail. There’s some kind of weird laws that you’re not allowed to see what the HOA is doing. I’m glad these people got caught, but there are probably many many more doing the same thing
Those are the type of people that buys a home without reading HOA rules and bylaws. Then instead of just selling home home and leaving they cause drama and trouble for themselves. Must be a very nice place when they don’t want to sell and move on. What’s ironically amusing to me and what I’ve always noticed is it’s probably a really nice place because of the HOA.😂😂😂😂
I know a person that worked the HOD. AND FREQUENTLY WENT ON CRUISES TRIPS TO DISNEY, And drove a new car every yea.when I asked how she was able to afford it She Said she inherited A lot of money .now I know who from.
Imagine paying an exorbitant amount of money for a home, only to pay even more money to people that tell you what you can and can’t do in your own home….. insane
Amen. I will never understand it. Ever. I've owned my own home since 1978. My second home for the last 35 years. I would never give up my rights to do whatever to my home and property to a HOA. The POWER they have given these boards are ridiculous and anti-American. In addition most being criminal.
It's really about money in the end. HOAs are far more prevalent in areas with strong county govt and weak or non-existing city govt. The developer plop down a bunch of houses and mark them up with amenities provided, without the county needing to provide additional maintenance to the neighborhood infrastructure...and many people have false sense of security that hoa rules retain home values, which isn't really true. Often those amenities fail or are run down once the neighborhood ages and no longer keeps value...the developers leap frog to the next farm field and start anew...
The homeowners need to get their money back,I Don't understand why people have to listen to another person about what they can do at a home they work to pay for!!! Good people in this world know how to take care of their homes without instructions from somebody else
Freeze ALL OF THEIR BANK ACCOUNTS, seize all of their assets.. to include their homes, cars, jewelry, any other monies and valuables .. Sell and give back to the victims! Plus give them a minimum of 10 years in prison! That should teach them! Sorry for their children but they should've thought about their children before ruining other folks lives! This needs to stop!
@@everythingisfine9988 Their families get zero of their money and assets! Zero! I'm sure their paychecks covered their lavish vacations, food and private jets! Anything else was from stolen money! Therefore, must be returned to the folks they stole from! The family gets NOTHING! If minor children are involved, let other family take care of them. Even the minor children are NOT entitled to stolen money/property/assets! Period! The kids can thank their criminal parents for ruining their lives! God bless!
Not disagreeing with you but it's not ever a slam dunk going after an HOA. I'm sure you've read through a few CC&Rs and Bylaws before. These declarations and agreements only serve the HOA's interests.
Thanks to the owners that protested, investigated, and made the legal system work. CONGRATULATIONS ❤️ 🎊 Is only the start, all that money stolen is needed,and most likely will never be recovered.
I once got fined by my HoA because kids in the neighborhood found a "free" table at the end of someone's driveway and thought it was a good idea to pull it to their house, well it was too heavy for them and it ended up in my side yard. fined $200 for littering. tried to fight it but i dont have time or effort to fight it with lawyers. that's when i realized i made the mistake of living in an HoA
@@MM-fh6kp and where are most poor neighborhoods located? In democrat controlled cities. It's not one side or the other that's the problem, it's both sides that are the problem, the sooner your come to that conclusion, the happier you'll be.
Not a surprise. My mother-in-law's HOA dues went from $195 a month 20 years ago to $700 today. Now she is provided a gym, tennis courts, a pool, garbage collection (although she has to actually drive her garbage to one of the nearby bins and it's collected there) and snow removal, but to me, that's $300 a month, not $700 and always suspected they're stealing money. I'd NEVER buy a home in an HOA. It's the worst of both worlds: you have to pay for everything, but someone else tells you what you can do to your own home!
Well, try to sell it now with $700 monthly attached? It de-values the house completely. I saw a nice house in Texas - modern, nice lot, big lake nearby so you can swim, fish and have a boat. There was a golf course there as well but membership was extra. Homes were set on this golf course. It was near by Dallas. The HOA there was back in 2014 - $500 for a big pool they had there, club house, and there was a restaurant there also. If you dine there you paid for meal like in any restaurant. I asked the agent who gets profits from that restaurant. He says HOA does. My question was why will I sponsor a restaurant for a private business? He said that is part of the package........what package - extortion racket? I could afford this house since my previous house was paid for - but this HOA was a replant. No way I will let someone extort money from me and sponsor a restaurant for them. No homes were selling there - wonder why.......I cannot imagine how much HOA is there today - double, tipple - will not be surprised.
Imagine giving tax money to people that are not the gov while also being able have your home dictated by random neighbors. Why would anyone wanna live in an HOA home
When I lived in Florida I always steered cleared of HOAs and never had a problem with my neighbors. I moved to Maryland and have constant problems with neighbors (loud music, illegally parked cars, etc). Living in Maryland, an HOA would probably be worth the money.
Yep I've owned several homes and I made sure every realtor knew no HOA. Don't ask to show one don't even mention it no HOA. F anyone having legal authority over my house.
@@Ifyoureadthisyouaregai My daughter pays that for her condo in So Cal. They do absolutely nothing with it that I can see besides a pool guy once a week. Throws some chlorine in the pool and leaves.
How did you find out? Was there no audit being done? I ask because I suspect this is happening where I live. They keep changing banks. Any suggestions would help.
HOA's need to be totally abolished across the Country. My HOA is corrupt too. Old ladies running it for over a decade that won't step down, and they fine anyone for lawns that are one inch high.
Initially, I thought HOA was just an organization that pays for gardening service to keep the street and some yards clean as well as security to keep unwanted people out of your neighborhood. The fact they can sell your house without your consent is mind boggling to me let alone tell you want you can and cant do on your own property.
Legally it's not that simple, It all starts with a disagreement, then a fine, and then when you don't pay the fine, they place a lien on your property, sue you, and then if they win force foreclosure. Only certain states allow a HOA to do this.
When you don’t pay your property taxes your house can eventually be sold without you consent as well. What’s mind boggling is people that buy a home with an HOA without reading the rules and bylaws. It’s all there. People are their own worse enemy.
This is one of many reasons I will never EVER buy a home with an HOA. I'm a firm believer in doing what I want with the property I own and pay taxes on. Nobody will tell me what to do with my property. I don't see how people can stand for these types of situations.
The board members where I lived broke the rules…boats and RV’s in front yards, work vehicles visible from front, no garage doors just a carport, cut trees down when they wanted….it went on and on til two committed suicide, one killed his wife her lover and himself. Unhinged power hungry nitwits
@@jondoh3471 That's not something I would do personally but if someone owns a house and they want to do that then they should be able to do so. I'm a firm believer that people can do what they want with their property, doesn't matter how I feel about it.
I agree with you, I sold my house with hoa, I will never buy another one now I live in the country happy no one can tell me what color I should paint the front door of my house.
I belonged to a homeowners association in Gwinnett County Georgia that had a summer long fight with an HOA that had a sex offender on the board of directors. (Long story of corruption.)Because of that I will never buy a home in any HOA again. The neighborhood we moved to after that had disbanded the HOA as soon as they were able. I loved living there. The people were friendly, the homes were kept up Better than in the HOA. I would guess that 90% or more of Homeowners associations are either corrupt or run by little people with ego problems.
I'm convinced that most HOA officers were either audio-visual helpers or pushed the floor mops at halftime during basketball games when in high school.
luck you. I agree we have seeing this in our place. one fraud the IRS already. other's are narcisists who are seeking attention at all cost. OUR's . the law does not protect us.
I used to feel the same way until I moved from Florida to Maryland. I have constant problems with neighbors around here with loud music and illegally parked cars, abandoned cars, etc. At least an HOA would stop people from living like this.
We buy in HOAs so we don’t have look at junk collecting neighbors. Every single basic neighborhood I’ve drove through has had THAT neighbor. Down south being the worst because of the bars and plywood on the windows. Some neighborhoods are just unpleasant to look at. Junk cars, old appliances, long grass, ripped up tarp flapping in the wind, burn barrels, broken play sets, etc…. HOA is there to protect assets. They are paid to make sure one neighbors junk doesn’t bring down the value of the neighborhood. If things start to get out of hand the HOAs remind them that they signed an agreement and if they don’t fix their problem they will get fines everyday until it’s paid and if it’s not paid the HOA goes after the money in court when they house sells or switches beneficiaries. Some people don’t mind living next to filth. Some do. I personally can’t stand living next to people that burn trash so I live in an HOA where people can’t do that and my air stays clean.
@@seadragon1456 That's why I bought my place out where I have no neighbors..I can't live all stacked up like most people do, and I'll be dammed if anyone tells me what kinds of flowers I can plant, or what color my house can be..
I lived in a HOA community for 7 years. Got tired of the BS and sold and moved. Would never live where there is a HOA again. They actually sent me a letter for having my garage door open when I was not entering or leaving.
@Not That Ron Johnson: They may have actually been doing you a favor!🤣🤣 Never a good idea to leave your garage door up! It is just asking for Theft....and if you left your garage door unlocked, then that is an Invitation For Burglary!!
I pay $400 HOA a month in Condos built in the 1970s, there are probably about 150 units in my community. There is absolutely no way $60,000 a month is being spent on maintenance.
Nope. You are correct. My HOA does dumb things like resurfacing the pool right now that doesn't need it. I'd rather have lower HOAs. Not everyone uses the pool.
@@TheFrenchPug and our pool season is unrealistic..people’s working don’t get to use…especially for the constant cost of maintenance [I smell BS] Meanwhile lacking funds for proper exterior maintenance ,landscaping [dirt mowers🤦🏾♂️] ,on-site maintenance man died few years ago and things really went south , he oversaw the contractors working on OUR property s.. kept a level of standard acceptable for most [those concerned about their investment]… Rob Warner was a good dude[RIP Robbie], he took pride in our development as if it was his.
I moved from a house in GA with no HOA (tons of freedom to paint my house any color)... to TX. Not only high HOA but now I get to drive to a community mailbox and they let u know when to put ur trash can on the curb🥴 needless to say, we're looking for land to build and get away from people.
@@johnnyflores1978...and they want to increase every year too😭 I hope u all find a peace in ur upcoming new home. It'll prolly be another 3 years before we move😭
Definitely, I owned a condo in Temecula. Ca. , and all of them were on charging outrageous fees so I sold. We managed to fire both the management company, and the gardner .
I can assure you this has been happening in many other HOA's in Miami and many other cities in Florida. There needs to be a legit entity that can monitor and audit all of them frequently on a state level with full transparency. HOA's are a plague without constant supervision by the state. There are too few of them working for the state. My mother is paying $330 per month in community that still has delpelated shuffle boards and unused poker tables in the main lobby at the club house that nobody uses. They dont even bother to do all the gardening in front of the units or grounds. Sickning!
The state legislature will never let a bill that would create a HOA-monitoring entity to make it to the governor’s desk. These HOAs no doubt pay a lot of money to ensure they remain as autonomous as possible.
@@archiesauls3672 You are correct. This is why even though one association gets caught, another can keep doing it. Every time they raise the cost of their fees it's due to insurance costs or additional repairs because they don't have enough of our money to fix it. My mother pay nearly 400 per month in an old 1970's villa.
This is the reason WHY, I would NEVER buy into a home situation that requires admittance into an HOA. It's onerous, userous, and at best unscrupulous towards the resident homeowner-members.
Got family members who lived in one went to their house one time was harassed by their security staff, told them that I'm never going back there again, I'm disable so saw a lot of American with Disabilities act code violations,, I file a complaint against them, It cost them almost 200K in fines just laugh when I got the letter
Yep, I don't understand why you would spend all that money for a house only to be told what you can and CAN'T do. No WAY would I do that! It's a racket!
My brother got a notice about a 10 inch brown spot on his grass back by his cedar gate. The kid that mowed his grass spilled some gas when he filled his mower. The HOA had to walk from the sidewalk to the gate to see it. So my Big Brother got a can of green spray paint and fixed it.
Yeah, I have friends that live in a very strict HOA. No one can park vehicles on the street or even in their driveway after 9 pm. Their cars always have to be garaged at night per the HOA.
Living in a HOA community is like living in an apartment complex but you have more rooms, a garage and a back yard. Management do whatever they want and raise prices to fit their needs but also babysit you. They demand more money and you literally have no say in what services they’ll decide to add or remove to maintain the community as well as no idea if vendors chosen give the management kickbacks. If you live in one, enjoy your stay and you deserve whatever good or bad you get. Lol
Like the lady said this is going on all over the place.. It should not take this long to charge arrest and put these types in prison. time means they just steal more and more likely get away with it..
All OVER these HOAs are pseudo micro governments..Most are ”operating“ by dirtbags who want to be just as corrupt as city, state ,and fed “officials “ aka ROGUES. Bunch of “some animals are more important than others animals” head asses. I’ve been living in an association where the residents… DO NOT give a damn…the past boards were horrible…the residents conduct themselves AS IF the board run things…and the residents act like renters with no say or concerns, don’t show up to meetings 150 units maybe 15-20 at meetings.. Unscrupulous individuals make their way to “the board”..and pilfer coffers. Mismanaging [theft]💰💸💰💸💰💸. Some body’s doing deals ,low ball offers to do landscaping [dirt mowers] ,shortest pool season I ever seen, building [outside exteriors, shoddily repaired and or painted.. Clubhouse outdated not renovated, [shag carpet on floors since the era built{73}, the arrears of associations fees means no FHA loans in development which means,investors,who buy too high , then try to pass the overages back onto their renters, over market rent..eventually the renter stops paying cause [rob Peter to pay Paul] It’s not sustainable. We bought after renting..it turned where it was practical to buy so we are….Love our space..get along with a lot of my neighbors… I’m NOT the one for BS ..I Am constantly asked to” be on the board “…by many neighbors as we discuss OUR situations. I DO NOT rule by committee.SORRY. I would reform ,then become vilified. I’m polarizing. Love me or hate me..your choice… [ I REALLY FOR REALS DGAF]..I Call BS to its face…and don’t back down…. Time for my own acreages…..planet🤔⁉️
Happens all the time. We had to hire a management company to take care of the HOA dues instead of the president of the board. The management company embezzled over $27,000 into her own account. So we changed the management company. The new management company embezzled $4000 into his own account. It was crazy. Now we have had a great management company for the past eleven years.
How did you find out? What is/was the process and who did you hire to do it? Our HOA only sends proposed budget/actual budget/expense sheet…..it doesn’t go into debt of actual check numbers and who was paid….one year there was $20,000 plus that was not accounted for
We have been questioning how the funds of our HOA have been spent. We were informed that there are no reserves. Wish someone would do an investigation into ours. Watching the are go into decline over the years is very saddening.
Get involved! There may be a retired accountant living there. Go door to door. Mail flyers to residents. And by law, they have to give you copies of their budget and Contracts. I think it is FL statue 718 for HOAs.
@@OceanLife772HOA’s are like the mafia. You complain and you get targeted. And you sign over the power if you buy a house in their neighborhood. I’d never buy a house with a HOA. I’d never live in a big city either.
Look at by- laws. You may have the right to call for an independent audit. Contact the lawyer on this case and see what he suggests you do in your location. He may know someone.
how can you fight if the laws protect them ? happening in ours. they do huge mistakes, insure themselves and we pay millions for their mistakes. we can't have insurance for us. IF we say anything they threat us to take us to court. now because a mistake that we are sure was made because someone made money somewhere we have a bill of 6 mil to pay. and this is just the beggining. they got away again. The law is not in our side.
Every HOA needs to have different members (or hire a firm) to do an audit of the books each year. This is what happens when you put other peoples money in someone else's hands. Try to get rid of the HOA as a whole for a year and see what happens, you might be better off.
"an audit each YEAR"? tOO LATE. you need an "on-going" public statements accessed on line. In fact, in LAW, as a member of a union you can ask to see the books ANYTIME IN Canada, as an example. And with digital data today, it would work.
why would anyone vote democrat? Its the same thing. They are promised peace and safety and security, you can vote yourself in, but cant vote yourself out.
Some of us want our property to actually increase in value, have amenities, and a fairly clean place to live. It’s worth it to me. Never had any major issues with my hoa. I don’t want to have the nicest house on the street and have two dilapidated houses on each side.
@@Tearflavoredcereal LOL, and you have any actual evidence HOA properties increase in value faster than other properties? Have you always been a sheep?
I bought my 2nd house in an HOA sub. Since I was hardly there, it was just an annoyance. But, when I decided to make it my permanent and ONLY home, the nightmare began. I recently won a seat on the board because I needed to keep the board members on power trips in check and oversee every dime spent. Sad that this retired person is now working for free just to make sure the HOA is honest.
I had a couple of friends in similar situations. They were older guys who bought into an HOA neighborhood. They joined the Board so they had some say in what was going on. Both of them eventually ended up quitting the Board because of the stress and arguments that ensued.
I lived in an hoa where we knew the ones who were stealing had home owners on the payroll who were spies for the board members that were blatantly stealing. It got to the point we had to majority vote them out of office and elected the homeowners who we thought were looking out for the home owners because they were hoa savvy so we thought they would be better. After a couple of years they never called the cops to investigate because we figured a hundred thousand was stolen. Only one reason they didn't want an investigation and that is their hands were dirty and the cops would find that out if there was an investigation. We were north of The Hammocks. It seems the Kendall area has a lot of thieves which makes sense because of the money involved.
we have a lot of cubans in Kendall!!! at least you were able to vote them out!!! we in the hammocks couldn't even when court got involved we still cant vote to remove them.
@@wskywsorry to break the news to you hun, but the biggest crooks in Florida aren’t Cuban… it’s people like trump! Have you seen where Jered and Ivanka live? Do you know how they got the money to pay for that Florida island mansion?! What ever you think “Cubans” are stealing is peanuts compared to what trump and his cronies are taking!
Well these are the people coming across the water but let them tell it they made Miami what it is today. Yup, turned it into a corrupt city and making it hard for everybody else. Once again, me no speake engla 3th world Miami Dade County. 😆
Except that, the Hammocks is the Colombian neighborhood...Try the DRUG CARTELS on for size, sweetie...BTW...Americans just LOVE getting HIGH and love them Cartels...Cubans don't bring hardly any clothes on their backs, never mind any drugs...So Americans hate them hard working Cubans and love the "South of the Border, Christmas Kings Gifters"...RACISTS are ANTI-AMERICAN TRAITORS...One in the mirror, go check...
@@v.l.c3979 I beg to differ...My one son is half Honduran and can only hire these new Cubans because he says the Latin Americans have such Hate, Envy and deep embeded RACISM, that they can't do the jobs right...Deviant and entitled minded...Just too much of a mess to bother with...Even among their own...Cubans want the American Dream but in the way it was in Cuba before Castro...They'll stay at the job and save until they can move on to their own businesses or learn a new trade and find a higher paying job...Besides, they listen and learn easier, because the RACISM, Envy and Hate, doesn't get in their way...Besides, Cubans don't drink on the job and the Latin Americans do and are a liability...It's not RACISM for my son against his own Honduran family...It Safety and ease...And, he's got newly arrived Cubans on lists, to work for him...Good workers too...Easier to hire personell...My other son is Cuban American and German...He also has his own business and always has problems because he will try one every now and then and they always seem to be the biggest problems on his agendas...He's learning from his older brother the HARD way...
I have a buddy who sells a lot of homes as a realtor. He says that the number of people who don't want to buy in a neighborhood with an HOA is going up significantly. If that continues those neighborhoods value will drop with the demand (eventually).
I live in Venice Isle Estates in Venice Florida and I believe this is happening here also. We have millions of dollars in escrow for emergencies yet every homeowner was charged over $600 each to pay for the insurance deductible for hurricane Ian in 2022. The money we have in Escrow is supposed to psy for that because hurricane damage is considered an emergency. It's like the money in escrow is gone without us knowing. I personally want the board members here investigated!
That is despicable! Well I’m sure other HOAs are scared to deaf right now. They should be thrown under the jail. It’s hard to find people who are honest these days because the crooks are embedded in the scheme already. Crooks are always present where there’s money. It’s terrible.
HOA are scams they can sell ypu hpuse with out consent and will tell you what to do with your house and if you have dead grass you will get fined they are picky and monsters.
@@badpop987Might be deliberate and more of an expression of AAVE which pronounces death as deaf instead of actually meaning deaf. Or it’s autocorrect. Commenter comes off as too thoughtful to have actually messed up the meaning of a common and obvious expression.
I think this is extremely common in Florida. They’ve been getting away with it for years. They’re sought after positions among the grifter communities. HOAs and property management companies are a hotbed of criminal activity.
So true, some communities are like a fraud board! No gates, no cameras, not good infrastructure but you need to pay the HOA in advance when you buy a property, sometimes they ask you for 2 years in advance and the properties do not look good. They need to investigate more communities.
Our HOA is about money as well! It’s unbelievable what they are doing. We are paying into our HOA only to get fined by the HOA? How does it make sense! We live in a well established neighborhood and everyone is pretty much always looking out for each other and it’s well kept yet these people don’t bother to clean our bathrooms and parks that are supposed to be managed by them.
Beneficiaries of a Trust, Escrow, or HOA require transparency. Ideally, any member of the Association should have immediate access to monthly accounting. This is their Association and their right. The State of Florida needs to write new HOA laws that will give peace of mind to the beneficiaries of these Trusts. After all, isn't that the primary reason for HOAs i the first place?
I had an HOA at a condo in Hawaii try to tell me I had to check in a girl I brought home from a beach bar. I told him he was out of his ever loving mind. He threatened to have her car towed from my driveway. I said call Five O before you call a tow truck. He left me alone after that. Pay a quarter mill for a condo and some aholes think they are in charge.
As a BoD Member at our community, I'm glad these people got caught. We've worked hard to keep everything done legally AND in the open. It happens, so please be involved, know your rights and the FL/your state statues governing HOAs & Co-ops. We've had 2 years of correcting bad decisions from previous boards (nothing illegal - just really dumb decisions) and working to accomplish needed repairs neglected from previous managers/Boards. I'm glad we came in during COVID- it gave us time and impetus to go over financial and repair records. We're finally moving forward for our community (of which we all live in).
thank God the 23 year old building I manage in Canada has lots of Engineers and retired professionals. Free help!! People forget most so called HOA's are volunteers. We don't use that term in Canada. But you DO have issue with our management company not really interested in contractor oversight: match the invoice to the job and they cut a check.
Joining and let alone paying a Homeowners Association to control what you can and cannot do defeats the purpose of owning your own home. You may as well rent a place if you like rules and restrictions because you're not in control. People have far better things to do than worry about what their neighbors are hanging on their clotheslines.
Sorry, the HOA rules state that you can't have a clothesline. You can't wash your car on your driveway, and your flowerbeds are 4" too wide. While you're at it take down that flag on your front porch. Don't put your holiday decorations up earlier than one week in advance, and take them down no later than two days after the holiday. You can't have solar panels or Dish TV where they can be seen from the street. Don't leave a water hose out in the grass, they have to be spooled on an approved hanger that's hidden by a bush.
Any fee happy HOA needs to be independently audited. The moment they are hesitant or state "Trust us", they need to have multiple independent audits. Any HOA needs complete transparency with their monies, fees and handling of fines. I'm on an HOA board and all the board members do services for the HOA at our own expense. We take no compensation, nothing.
EVERY HOA in every state needs to be investigated!!!
@@LeoL-bi8rhthen they need to make one!
I agree! 100%
what a drama queen....you clearly have no clue what you're talking about
People need to stop moving into HOA properties.
For what? you can't just investigate them because you feel like it. Better yet, don't buy a home where there's an HOA. Or if you live in one rally the neighborhood to not pay dues and remove them. I used to live in a neighborhood with an HOA, I don't now and never will again. No HOA chips in on my mortgage payments so they have no say as far as I'm concerned.
Glad to see the people at HOA getting what they deserve criminal charges against them.
Yeah great. WHAT ABOUT THE MONEY???
@@jameylane1591 the court can make them pay it back like restitution they would have to pay
@@acethedriver2895 Highly unlikely they have any money at all.
Money probably is hidden in Mexico.
@@jameylane1591 the court can have them make monthly payments not paying would be back in jail plus they need to pay back the money they stole.
Another reason to stay away from HOA homes.
Facts
Agreed.
I had my reservations..
Was renting for a few years a condo..like the neighborhood, opted to purchase when timing was right.
Bought TownHome in same development..11-12 years ago..
All my qualms confirmed.😮😢..
Love our space ..fed up with “THEM”.
That's why I'm having a hard time getting a house. Every move in ready or new home is HOA and is driving my mad because I don't want any HOA. It's frustrating having to pay an extra tax to people for them to tell me what to do and steal from me too! C'mon man😒
HOAs are those who peaked in high school
HOA is the most beautiful of all scams… Designed to keep out “Undesirables” ( migrants and minorities ) its legal grift!
HOA should be illegal in AMERICA !!!
Also should include manufactured home parks. A lot of them come up with phony rules based of misinterpreted state laws. Or the make up things quoting them as laws when research shows nothing at the state, county or local level. A lot of the folks there are living on a fixed income and have no other other options.
And insurance companies. And car mechanics.
@@bobm1394 Why car mechanics? ....so that you can be swindled into paying hundreds if not thousands of dollars to a car dealer every time you bring your car in for service?
Why is an HOA collecting 4 million dollars in the first place? That’s outrageous!
Cleaning a pool and mowing lawns is expensive
@@garysgarage.2841- I’m quitting my job and moving to Hammocks to open a pool cleaning/landscaping business.
Cause they have 18000 units!
@@miamiliving6625- 18,000 units x $359 means they’re collecting $6,462,000.00 a year. They should be charging $50 a year instead of $359. The goal of the HOA should be to have enough money to cover the cost of maintaining the pools and landscaping. There’s not a snowball’s chance in Hell that costs anywhere close to the money they’re collecting.
@Saint Michael it was 44.5$ a month or close to that number. the 4 million missing aren't just what we paid they also took a loan for 2 millions and we don't know why they took the loan. now we have to deal with money stolen from us and its us home owners who have to pay the loan
Way more “HOA” boards need to be investigated about this!😡😡😡
because YOU say so?
sht, you don't even own property... sit the f down son
file complaints with the state attorney generals office and then the federal trade commission
@@Dannysphotography not how it works.... you better have a legitimate gripe or you will be held in contempt and charged
BTW... FTC has zero to do with it ;-)
im sure we're all impressed with your misuse of an agency you have overheard.
I'm betting only 1% get caught. HOAs are a ripoff.
@@AdamChanddler
All these HOAs need oversight. They are private governments operating in the open with impunity.
They need to be illegal
or, in a capitalist small govt world, consumers need to stop buying hoa homes.
They need to be abolished, we already have a government. Cities already have codes.
Correct. My HOA board decided that members can only attend one mtg per year, and they are incompetent.
@@whatever3773We don't live in that world, so why are you talking about it?
I'm TERRIFIED of buying a house with an HOA, and it's getting harder and harder to find one that isn't part of an HOA. WHEN is the damn gov't going to step in and STOP this insane abuse?!
Don't do it...trust me when I tell you, I woke up one morning and there was a man in my front yard with a wooden 1966 ruler moving it left and then right.
So I walk outside and asked him what he was doing, and he said he was from HOA and he was measuring the grass.
I don't remember the exact height that was allowed but he was finding 1 blade 1/16" taller than the rest and once he had a particular number in.a 3x3 sq. he informed me that I was in violation and I would be receiving the boards decision. $800 because there was 5 blades over the number allowed which was total disregard for the standards approved by the board and because there was complete and total disregard he doubles it from the standard $400 to $800.
It's never ending
@@nickseviltwin1580 That's definitely crooked. Just looking for money to pocket.
@@mitchmiller7204 oh yeah and it was always something but when I saw him crawling around my front yard with the wooden folding ruler, that was it.
The big guy is getting his 10%, if his people step in, he'll take more.
They aren't.
This is going on in almost all of these associations. Just like our government, these people insulate themselves from public scrutiny.
@Vixelia I don’t get the last part, does the HOA own or have the title to their homes as well?
@Autumn Leaf no but they can put a lien on your home and basically take it through the bank, it's super messed up
This is true. My brother moved into a condo and the condo was going into foreclosure less than a year after he moved in. The board misappropriated the funds and it took over 2 years to replace the board and hire lawyers to right the ship. SMH
exactly. an hoa is a mini microcosm of a communist nation.
I love our little made up HOA, we each pay $50 a month for a couple of neighborhood kids (12-17yrs old) to do the landscaping, snow removal and minor maintenance. Great bunch of hardworking youths.
Remember that story about the lady who got sued by the homeowners association because she wanted documentation of what they were spending and she almost went to jail. There’s some kind of weird laws that you’re not allowed to see what the HOA is doing. I’m glad these people got caught, but there are probably many many more doing the same thing
Those are the type of people that buys a home without reading HOA rules and bylaws.
Then instead of just selling home home and leaving they cause drama and trouble for themselves.
Must be a very nice place when they don’t want to sell and move on.
What’s ironically amusing to me and what I’ve always noticed is it’s probably a really nice place because of the HOA.😂😂😂😂
Wrong dude!!! Look up FS 720.
My HOA in Florida handed us papers at every meeting telling us where the money went
It’s awful in Florida as far as HOA fees go. The amount of theft over the years is mind boggling!
I know a person that worked the HOD.
AND FREQUENTLY WENT ON CRUISES TRIPS TO DISNEY, And drove a new car every yea.when I asked how she was able to afford it
She Said she inherited
A lot of money .now I know who from.
Imagine paying an exorbitant amount of money for a home, only to pay even more money to people that tell you what you can and can’t do in your own home….. insane
Paying to be a slave....
WE LIVE IN A SHEEPS 🐑 WORLD 🌎! DID THE MASKS 😷 NOT PROVE IT TO YOU!??
Amen. I will never understand it. Ever. I've owned my own home since 1978. My second home for the last 35 years. I would never give up my rights to do whatever to my home and property to a HOA. The POWER they have given these boards are ridiculous and anti-American. In addition most being criminal.
It's really about money in the end. HOAs are far more prevalent in areas with strong county govt and weak or non-existing city govt. The developer plop down a bunch of houses and mark them up with amenities provided, without the county needing to provide additional maintenance to the neighborhood infrastructure...and many people have false sense of security that hoa rules retain home values, which isn't really true. Often those amenities fail or are run down once the neighborhood ages and no longer keeps value...the developers leap frog to the next farm field and start anew...
The homeowners need to get their money back,I Don't understand why people have to listen to another person about what they can do at a home they work to pay for!!! Good people in this world know how to take care of their homes without instructions
from somebody else
You ever notice how when HOA board members are jailed or suffer other misfortunes, no one sheds a single tear for them.
Hard to know, since ive never heard of any of them being jailed before now...
HOA should be banned
So how do you pay for all the building's expenses.? Trash company, hallway and lobby electricity, elevator fixing, gardner, renovation.
@@afshinsooferian8616 allot of neighborhoods with HOA don’t have any of that stuff 😅
@@afshinsooferian8616 you’re confusing HOA with rentals slightly different.
@@afshinsooferian8616 Bro you big dumb!
@@afshinsooferian8616 ask the majority of homeowners that exist and don’t have to pay hoa fees how they manage 😂
Freeze ALL OF THEIR BANK ACCOUNTS, seize all of their assets.. to include their homes, cars, jewelry, any other monies and valuables .. Sell and give back to the victims! Plus give them a minimum of 10 years in prison! That should teach them! Sorry for their children but they should've thought about their children before ruining other folks lives! This needs to stop!
Nice hair
@@tinawindham6958 😎
Give them a minimum 20 years in Prison!!
Remove their hands. Hard to steal without hands
@@everythingisfine9988 Their families get zero of their money and assets! Zero! I'm sure their paychecks covered their lavish vacations, food and private jets! Anything else was from stolen money! Therefore, must be returned to the folks they stole from! The family gets NOTHING! If minor children are involved, let other family take care of them. Even the minor children are NOT entitled to stolen money/property/assets! Period! The kids can thank their criminal parents for ruining their lives! God bless!
I love the way the DA is now acting like they are there to help. Where were they before. This has been going on for years. Lock them up for life.
Not disagreeing with you but it's not ever a slam dunk going after an HOA. I'm sure you've read through a few CC&Rs and Bylaws before. These declarations and agreements only serve the HOA's interests.
@@preston74 I know. It's crazy. If I were their neighbor they'd be missing all the windows in their homes.
@@user-vi2dk1qz5f 🤣👍
Corruption is everywhere. In government and business as well. Don’t underestimate human greed.
@@Dept246 Bet they had some nice Christmases.
I’m a general contractor and I am yet to come across a board with decent human beings.
Throw them in prison and take their homes away from them too!!! Disgraceful and disgusting!
They can’t legally take their homes away lol.
They can if they violated the hoa rules. Do they have rules stating that you shouldn’t steal from your neighbors?
Thanks to the owners that protested, investigated, and made the legal system work. CONGRATULATIONS ❤️ 🎊 Is only the start, all that money stolen is needed,and most likely will never be recovered.
The people involved will have to sell their homes and the proceeds will go back to the community they stole from
They can always sell their homes to help pay for restitution.
@@neilkurzman4907 you have a firm grasp of the obvious of what I said before you. You just used different words lol
@@Ren-sg4rk
You assume I read your other words. they’re not in this response are they ?
But isn't it a shame they had to fight?
Don't give up. Just don't buy into an HOA. They suck. I was in one. Too many problems and issues to even list here. Just don't do it.
I was a property manager for hoa's and I agree with you 100%. I would never buy into a hoa community.
I once got fined by my HoA because kids in the neighborhood found a "free" table at the end of someone's driveway and thought it was a good idea to pull it to their house, well it was too heavy for them and it ended up in my side yard. fined $200 for littering. tried to fight it but i dont have time or effort to fight it with lawyers. that's when i realized i made the mistake of living in an HoA
This HOA should be dissolved immediately!
Finally!! This has been going on all over Florida! We have no clear consumer protection. Thanks Cathy Rundle.
Who's your governor 🤔.
@@frankrivera7460 fl the only state with HOA issues?
@@nunya2814 havent heard about any other state's HOA doing RICO 109..
What Ron DeSatan has not solved this? Must be in a poor neighborhood!
@@MM-fh6kp and where are most poor neighborhoods located? In democrat controlled cities. It's not one side or the other that's the problem, it's both sides that are the problem, the sooner your come to that conclusion, the happier you'll be.
Not a surprise. My mother-in-law's HOA dues went from $195 a month 20 years ago to $700 today. Now she is provided a gym, tennis courts, a pool, garbage collection (although she has to actually drive her garbage to one of the nearby bins and it's collected there) and snow removal, but to me, that's $300 a month, not $700 and always suspected they're stealing money. I'd NEVER buy a home in an HOA. It's the worst of both worlds: you have to pay for everything, but someone else tells you what you can do to your own home!
That's included in most people's rent! It should be $100 max!!
How many houses are in her lot x 700 per month x 12.
Well, try to sell it now with $700 monthly attached? It de-values the house completely.
I saw a nice house in Texas - modern, nice lot, big lake nearby so you can swim, fish and have a boat. There was a golf course there as well but membership was extra. Homes were set on this golf course. It was near by Dallas. The HOA there was back in 2014 - $500 for a big pool they had there, club house, and there was a restaurant there also. If you dine there you paid for meal like in any restaurant. I asked the agent who gets profits from that restaurant. He says HOA does. My question was why will I sponsor a restaurant for a private business? He said that is part of the package........what package - extortion racket?
I could afford this house since my previous house was paid for - but this HOA was a replant. No way I will let someone extort money from me and sponsor a restaurant for them. No homes were selling there - wonder why.......I cannot imagine how much HOA is there today - double, tipple - will not be surprised.
100th like and you are completely right
GREAT!
This should inspire a wave of audits throughout the whole country. These arrogant HOAs are notorious for their abusive ways.
i live @ 1 n Peurto Rico. 😡
This goes on every day, every where. I'm glad to see they got caught.
Imagine giving tax money to people that are not the gov while also being able have your home dictated by random neighbors. Why would anyone wanna live in an HOA home
When I lived in Florida I always steered cleared of HOAs and never had a problem with my neighbors. I moved to Maryland and have constant problems with neighbors (loud music, illegally parked cars, etc). Living in Maryland, an HOA would probably be worth the money.
Yep I've owned several homes and I made sure every realtor knew no HOA. Don't ask to show one don't even mention it no HOA. F anyone having legal authority over my house.
I bet all these people are democrats. I bet.
@@violinhunter2 I bet you think Trump is still president.
@@darkstorminc Aaaah, yes,.... How did you know that?
HOA should be DISBANDED all over the country
I live in the Hammocks , these fees have been killing us ! They need to drop them now that they got EXPOSED !!
How much is your HOA fee?
@@afshinsooferian8616 currently $339
@@Ifyoureadthisyouaregai My daughter pays that for her condo in So Cal. They do absolutely nothing with it that I can see besides a pool guy once a week. Throws some chlorine in the pool and leaves.
You bought the ticket... now enjoy the ride....
How did you find out? Was there no audit being done? I ask because I suspect this is happening where I live. They keep changing banks. Any suggestions would help.
HOA's need to be totally abolished across the Country. My HOA is corrupt too. Old ladies running it for over a decade that won't step down, and they fine anyone for lawns that are one inch high.
Initially, I thought HOA was just an organization that pays for gardening service to keep the street and some yards clean as well as security to keep unwanted people out of your neighborhood. The fact they can sell your house without your consent is mind boggling to me let alone tell you want you can and cant do on your own property.
Legally it's not that simple, It all starts with a disagreement, then a fine, and then when you don't pay the fine, they place a lien on your property, sue you, and then if they win force foreclosure. Only certain states allow a HOA to do this.
I bet it's unconstitutional. A lot is about to change for the better.
It’s where Karens and Darens go to fulfill their entitlement.
When you don’t pay your property taxes your house can eventually be sold without you consent as well.
What’s mind boggling is people that buy a home with an HOA without reading the rules and bylaws. It’s all there.
People are their own worse enemy.
@@mariantreber8055
Yeah theft is usually a bad thing. 😂
It's about time, legal organized crime!👍
The new Cartel!
This is one of many reasons I will never EVER buy a home with an HOA. I'm a firm believer in doing what I want with the property I own and pay taxes on. Nobody will tell me what to do with my property. I don't see how people can stand for these types of situations.
The board members where I lived broke the rules…boats and RV’s in front yards, work vehicles visible from front, no garage doors just a carport, cut trees down when they wanted….it went on and on til two committed suicide, one killed his wife her lover and himself. Unhinged power hungry nitwits
💯
Just don't paint your house pink with a white picket fence.
@@jondoh3471 That's not something I would do personally but if someone owns a house and they want to do that then they should be able to do so. I'm a firm believer that people can do what they want with their property, doesn't matter how I feel about it.
I agree with you, I sold my house with hoa, I will never buy another one now I live in the country happy no one can tell me what color I should paint the front door of my house.
HOA's are a joke. It's extortion and does not benefit the homeowners who pay from $80 to $500 or more a month. Where is all that money going.
I belonged to a homeowners association in Gwinnett County Georgia that had a summer long fight with an HOA that had a sex offender on the board of directors. (Long story of corruption.)Because of that I will never buy a home in any HOA again. The neighborhood we moved to after that had disbanded the HOA as soon as they were able. I loved living there. The people were friendly, the homes were kept up Better than in the HOA. I would guess that 90% or more of Homeowners associations are either corrupt or run by little people with ego problems.
I'm convinced that most HOA officers were either audio-visual helpers or pushed the floor mops at halftime during basketball games when in high school.
How did they dispand their HOA??!! I'm sure there are lots of others that would want to do that.
@@COBARHORSE1 Very good question. People who are stuck with HOA's need to look into it.
luck you. I agree we have seeing this in our place. one fraud the IRS already. other's are narcisists who are seeking attention at all cost. OUR's . the law does not protect us.
Why anyone would join a HOA or even buy a house in an HOA is beyond me...
I used to feel the same way until I moved from Florida to Maryland. I have constant problems with neighbors around here with loud music and illegally parked cars, abandoned cars, etc. At least an HOA would stop people from living like this.
@@kensmith2796 My city ordinances do a fine job where I live in Texas. Maybe it's the town/state and not the lack of an HOA
We buy in HOAs so we don’t have look at junk collecting neighbors. Every single basic neighborhood I’ve drove through has had THAT neighbor. Down south being the worst because of the bars and plywood on the windows.
Some neighborhoods are just unpleasant to look at. Junk cars, old appliances, long grass, ripped up tarp flapping in the wind, burn barrels, broken play sets, etc….
HOA is there to protect assets. They are paid to make sure one neighbors junk doesn’t bring down the value of the neighborhood. If things start to get out of hand the HOAs remind them that they signed an agreement and if they don’t fix their problem they will get fines everyday until it’s paid and if it’s not paid the HOA goes after the money in court when they house sells or switches beneficiaries.
Some people don’t mind living next to filth. Some do.
I personally can’t stand living next to people that burn trash so I live in an HOA where people can’t do that and my air stays clean.
@@seadragon1456 That's why I bought my place out where I have no neighbors..I can't live all stacked up like most people do, and I'll be dammed if anyone tells me what kinds of flowers I can plant, or what color my house can be..
@seadragon1456 you'd be a nightmare neighbour. Good riddance.
I lived in a HOA community for 7 years. Got tired of the BS and sold and moved. Would never live where there is a HOA again. They actually sent me a letter for having my garage door open when I was not entering or leaving.
Did you know that the rules of an HOA can be changed? You can always petition the board and your neighbors.
Or run to be on the board yourself.
When we were in search for a new home, we told our realtor don't even THINK about showing us properties in an HOA.
where are you finding a house without hoa?
@Not That Ron Johnson: They may have actually been doing you a favor!🤣🤣
Never a good idea to leave your garage door up! It is just asking for Theft....and if you left your garage door unlocked, then that is an Invitation For Burglary!!
@@georgeandy6923 I don’t need anyone minding me.
Makes me glad to not be under HOA. Perhaps this community should vote to disband HOA
I pay $400 HOA a month in Condos built in the 1970s, there are probably about 150 units in my community. There is absolutely no way $60,000 a month is being spent on maintenance.
Nope. You are correct. My HOA does dumb things like resurfacing the pool right now that doesn't need it. I'd rather have lower HOAs. Not everyone uses the pool.
@@TheFrenchPug and our pool season is unrealistic..people’s working don’t get to use…especially for the constant cost of maintenance [I smell BS]
Meanwhile lacking funds for proper exterior maintenance ,landscaping [dirt mowers🤦🏾♂️] ,on-site maintenance man died few years ago and things really went south , he oversaw the contractors working on OUR property s.. kept a level of standard acceptable for most [those concerned about their investment]…
Rob Warner was a good dude[RIP Robbie], he took pride in our development as if it was his.
Fees for pocket expenses.
@Vixelia June 2023 moving to Texas. 🤞
400 is like paying rent for something you already own.
I moved from a house in GA with no HOA (tons of freedom to paint my house any color)... to TX. Not only high HOA but now I get to drive to a community mailbox and they let u know when to put ur trash can on the curb🥴 needless to say, we're looking for land to build and get away from people.
Yeah here in houston its bad we are moving out of this HOA run neighborhood who wants to pay these people fees forever
@@johnnyflores1978...and they want to increase every year too😭 I hope u all find a peace in ur upcoming new home. It'll prolly be another 3 years before we move😭
Yup. This goes on in HOA’s all over the place. Never again will I own a house in an HOA. They are simply not regulated properly, or at all!
Restitution from those criminals ? How are the criminals going to pay back the HOA ?
That would be a great follow up story.
CITATIONS AND FINES 😂😂😂
The good thing (maybe the only one) when HOA board members are caught losing lawsuits is that many of the lose their homes.
This is an extreme case, but there are a lot of lesser crooks in condominium associations.
Definitely, I owned a condo in Temecula. Ca. , and all of them were on charging outrageous fees so I sold. We managed to fire both the management company, and the gardner .
I can assure you this has been happening in many other HOA's in Miami and many other cities in Florida. There needs to be a legit entity that can monitor and audit all of them frequently on a state level with full transparency. HOA's are a plague without constant supervision by the state. There are too few of them working for the state. My mother is paying $330 per month in community that still has delpelated shuffle boards and unused poker tables in the main lobby at the club house that nobody uses. They dont even bother to do all the gardening in front of the units or grounds. Sickning!
Is it a condo,house,or old folks home?
Makes a difference.
In Florida, really....imagine that.....to all the legit honest hard working people in that state I'm sorry you live in such a corrupt state.
The state legislature will never let a bill that would create a HOA-monitoring entity to make it to the governor’s desk. These HOAs no doubt pay a lot of money to ensure they remain as autonomous as possible.
@@archiesauls3672 You are correct. This is why even though one association gets caught, another can keep doing it. Every time they raise the cost of their fees it's due to insurance costs or additional repairs because they don't have enough of our money to fix it. My mother pay nearly 400 per month in an old 1970's villa.
Try the whole country
This is the reason WHY, I would NEVER buy into a home situation that requires admittance into an HOA. It's onerous, userous, and at best unscrupulous towards the resident homeowner-members.
I agree...but lots of people have little choice with all the new builds
Got family members who lived in one went to their house one time was harassed by their security staff, told them that I'm never going back there again, I'm disable so saw a lot of American with Disabilities act code violations,, I file a complaint against them, It cost them almost 200K in fines just laugh when I got the letter
@@bryanthompson12 Agreed.
Hoa's are all crooks, everywhere.
Yep, I don't understand why you would spend all that money for a house only to be told what you can and CAN'T do. No WAY would I do that! It's a racket!
All 5 Board members - that's some heavy duty corruption right there.
4 million I would say so
THUGS! Throw them under the jail!!!!
My brother got a notice about a 10 inch brown spot on his grass back by his cedar gate. The kid that mowed his grass spilled some gas when he filled his mower.
The HOA had to walk from the sidewalk to the gate to see it. So my Big Brother got a can of green spray paint and fixed it.
Yeah, I have friends that live in a very strict HOA. No one can park vehicles on the street or even in their driveway after 9 pm. Their cars always have to be garaged at night per the HOA.
when there is a pool of money just sitting there, discipline is thrown out the window.
This is a good example of how much money is extorted from home owners. Sickening.
Living in a HOA community is like living in an apartment complex but you have more rooms, a garage and a back yard. Management do whatever they want and raise prices to fit their needs but also babysit you. They demand more money and you literally have no say in what services they’ll decide to add or remove to maintain the community as well as no idea if vendors chosen give the management kickbacks. If you live in one, enjoy your stay and you deserve whatever good or bad you get. Lol
you deserve whatever good or bad you get. ????????
That last sentence had Hillary Clinton vibes.
Like the lady said this is going on all over the place.. It should not take this long to charge arrest and put these types in prison. time means they just steal more and more likely get away with it..
And all Cuban
All OVER these HOAs are pseudo micro governments..Most are
”operating“ by dirtbags who want to be just as corrupt as city, state ,and fed “officials “ aka ROGUES.
Bunch of “some animals are more important than others animals” head asses.
I’ve been living in an association where the residents… DO NOT give a damn…the past boards were horrible…the residents conduct themselves AS IF the board run things…and the residents act like renters with no say or concerns, don’t show up to meetings 150 units maybe 15-20 at meetings..
Unscrupulous individuals make their way to “the board”..and pilfer coffers.
Mismanaging [theft]💰💸💰💸💰💸.
Some body’s doing deals ,low ball offers to do landscaping [dirt mowers] ,shortest pool season I ever seen, building [outside exteriors, shoddily repaired and or painted..
Clubhouse outdated not renovated, [shag carpet on floors since the era built{73}, the arrears of associations fees means no FHA loans in development which means,investors,who buy too high , then try to pass the overages back onto their renters, over market rent..eventually the renter stops paying cause [rob Peter to pay Paul]
It’s not sustainable.
We bought after renting..it turned where it was practical to buy so we are….Love our space..get along with a lot of my neighbors…
I’m NOT the one for BS ..I Am constantly asked to” be on the board “…by many neighbors as we discuss OUR situations.
I DO NOT rule by committee.SORRY.
I would reform ,then become vilified.
I’m polarizing.
Love me or hate me..your choice…
[ I REALLY FOR REALS DGAF]..I
Call BS to its face…and don’t back down….
Time for my own acreages…..planet🤔⁉️
Likely in HOA's without a third party management company. The self managed HOA's are the worst.
@@juanalmos1959 ... Who vote republican.
Yes, the government and the authority don't care about corrupted operated condominiums because they cover up condominium funds theft.
My grandmother always said, when it comes to money the blind see and the deaf hear.
Happens all the time. We had to hire a management company to take care of the HOA dues instead of the president of the board. The management company embezzled over $27,000 into her own account. So we changed the management company. The new management company embezzled $4000 into his own account. It was crazy. Now we have had a great management company for the past eleven years.
How did you find out? What is/was the process and who did you hire to do it? Our HOA only sends proposed budget/actual budget/expense sheet…..it doesn’t go into debt of actual check numbers and who was paid….one year there was $20,000 plus that was not accounted for
Get a forensic audit every two years
Why would you live in an HOA?
@@reneportillo532 exactly! I feel zero sympathy for these people, you knew that you were getting into from the beginning! Don’t cry now!
There are us people who can’t afford to buy a house but small condos where always have HOA
Just another reason not to buy in a HOA neighborhood.
We have been questioning how the funds of our HOA have been spent. We were informed that there are no reserves. Wish someone would do an investigation into ours. Watching the are go into decline over the years is very saddening.
Get involved! There may be a retired accountant living there. Go door to door. Mail flyers to residents. And by law, they have to give you copies of their budget and Contracts. I think it is FL statue 718 for HOAs.
@@OceanLife772HOA’s are like the mafia. You complain and you get targeted. And you sign over the power if you buy a house in their neighborhood. I’d never buy a house with a HOA. I’d never live in a big city either.
Look at by- laws. You may have the right to call for an independent audit. Contact the lawyer on this case and see what he suggests you do in your location. He may know someone.
These HOAs should be regulated..damn there are so many nightmares around these groups
HOAs should be made illegal!
This is great news, and why people should fight against HOAs.
how can you fight if the laws protect them ? happening in ours. they do huge mistakes, insure themselves and we pay millions for their mistakes. we can't have insurance for us. IF we say anything they threat us to take us to court. now because a mistake that we are sure was made because someone made money somewhere we have a bill of 6 mil to pay. and this is just the beggining. they got away again. The law is not in our side.
Every HOA needs to have different members (or hire a firm) to do an audit of the books each year. This is what happens when you put other peoples money in someone else's hands. Try to get rid of the HOA as a whole for a year and see what happens, you might be better off.
"an audit each YEAR"? tOO LATE. you need an "on-going" public statements accessed on line. In fact, in LAW, as a member of a union you can ask to see the books ANYTIME IN Canada, as an example. And with digital data today, it would work.
How about just no more HOAs . That’s the biggest scam going in housing
Good and they should pay back the money.
Seize all their property and bank accounts.
I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would turn over control of their property to these pirates.
why would anyone vote democrat? Its the same thing. They are promised peace and safety and security, you can vote yourself in, but cant vote yourself out.
I profited greatly😂$$$$$$
Usually because it comes with the house and you have no choice.
Some of us want our property to actually increase in value, have amenities, and a fairly clean place to live. It’s worth it to me. Never had any major issues with my hoa. I don’t want to have the nicest house on the street and have two dilapidated houses on each side.
@@Tearflavoredcereal LOL, and you have any actual evidence HOA properties increase in value faster than other properties? Have you always been a sheep?
Unbelievable, it just doesn't stop.
Good for them ! More HOA needs to be investigated HOA must be banned, all types
Never EVER join an HOA, or buy a home that requires it!!❤
Its like renting a house 🤦♂️
I totally agree their rip offs…
I bought my 2nd house in an HOA sub. Since I was hardly there, it was just an annoyance. But, when I decided to make it my permanent and ONLY home, the nightmare began. I recently won a seat on the board because I needed to keep the board members on power trips in check and oversee every dime spent. Sad that this retired person is now working for free just to make sure the HOA is honest.
I had a couple of friends in similar situations. They were older guys who bought into an HOA neighborhood. They joined the Board so they had some say in what was going on. Both of them eventually ended up quitting the Board because of the stress and arguments that ensued.
Hall monitor
How do board members get their position? Do they campaign?
Now I REALLY have trust issues with the HOA!
I lived in an hoa where we knew the ones who were stealing had home owners on the payroll who were spies for the board members that were blatantly stealing. It got to the point we had to majority vote them out of office and elected the homeowners who we thought were looking out for the home owners because they were hoa savvy so we thought they would be better. After a couple of years they never called the cops to investigate because we figured a hundred thousand was stolen. Only one reason they didn't want an investigation and that is their hands were dirty and the cops would find that out if there was an investigation. We were north of The Hammocks. It seems the Kendall area has a lot of thieves which makes sense because of the money involved.
we have a lot of cubans in Kendall!!! at least you were able to vote them out!!! we in the hammocks couldn't even when court got involved we still cant vote to remove them.
@@wskywsorry to break the news to you hun, but the biggest crooks in Florida aren’t Cuban… it’s people like trump! Have you seen where Jered and Ivanka live? Do you know how they got the money to pay for that Florida island mansion?! What ever you think “Cubans” are stealing is peanuts compared to what trump and his cronies are taking!
@SunnyDiegoProduction trumph and his friends aren't even 30 people. but nearly each and every cuban in south Florida is involved in some scam
People should be too afraid of violent retribution to pull these kinds of stunts.
If it were my money, I'd be collecting fingers from the cocksuckers.
Well these are the people coming across the water but let them tell it they made Miami what it is today. Yup, turned it into a corrupt city and making it hard for everybody else. Once again, me no speake engla 3th world Miami Dade County. 😆
Better than your smelly racist azz!
Except that, the Hammocks is the Colombian neighborhood...Try the DRUG CARTELS on for size, sweetie...BTW...Americans just LOVE getting HIGH and love them Cartels...Cubans don't bring hardly any clothes on their backs, never mind any drugs...So Americans hate them hard working Cubans and love the "South of the Border, Christmas Kings Gifters"...RACISTS are ANTI-AMERICAN TRAITORS...One in the mirror, go check...
@@ladyaly864 Cubans that arrived in the United States around the 60s 70s 80s know about hard work these newcomers don't.
@@v.l.c3979 I beg to differ...My one son is half Honduran and can only hire these new Cubans because he says the Latin Americans have such Hate, Envy and deep embeded RACISM, that they can't do the jobs right...Deviant and entitled minded...Just too much of a mess to bother with...Even among their own...Cubans want the American Dream but in the way it was in Cuba before Castro...They'll stay at the job and save until they can move on to their own businesses or learn a new trade and find a higher paying job...Besides, they listen and learn easier, because the RACISM, Envy and Hate, doesn't get in their way...Besides, Cubans don't drink on the job and the Latin Americans do and are a liability...It's not RACISM for my son against his own Honduran family...It Safety and ease...And, he's got newly arrived Cubans on lists, to work for him...Good workers too...Easier to hire personell...My other son is Cuban American and German...He also has his own business and always has problems because he will try one every now and then and they always seem to be the biggest problems on his agendas...He's learning from his older brother the HARD way...
HOA shouldn't exist at all, but they are very powerful don't know why or how
The state gives an HOA that authority. An HOA only benefits the developer. There are no benefits to the homeowners. Been there done that.
NEVER purchase a home in an HOA!
I have a buddy who sells a lot of homes as a realtor. He says that the number of people who don't want to buy in a neighborhood with an HOA is going up significantly. If that continues those neighborhoods value will drop with the demand (eventually).
I believe it. These usual suspects always do this but throw other people under the bus as a cover up.
never buy a house with an HOA
easy to say when all new homes now have HOA.
I live in Venice Isle Estates in Venice Florida and I believe this is happening here also. We have millions of dollars in escrow for emergencies yet every homeowner was charged over $600 each to pay for the insurance deductible for hurricane Ian in 2022. The money we have in Escrow is supposed to psy for that because hurricane damage is considered an emergency. It's like the money in escrow is gone without us knowing. I personally want the board members here investigated!
That is despicable! Well I’m sure other HOAs are scared to deaf right now. They should be thrown under the jail. It’s hard to find people who are honest these days because the crooks are embedded in the scheme already. Crooks are always present where there’s money. It’s terrible.
HOA are scams they can sell ypu hpuse with out consent and will tell you what to do with your house and if you have dead grass you will get fined they are picky and monsters.
That’s REALLY scared.
What? Can't hear you...I'm scared to deaf.
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Bone apple tea… must be French benefits.
@@badpop987Might be deliberate and more of an expression of AAVE which pronounces death as deaf instead of actually meaning deaf. Or it’s autocorrect. Commenter comes off as too thoughtful to have actually messed up the meaning of a common and obvious expression.
HOA is a scam never buy a house with HOA
My new house has a great HOA, we pay and they leave us alone. My prior house hoa were terrible.
This shows what I've been saying about HOA that charge hundreds of dollars. Where is the money gong?
Why do you care? We're all going to die sometime anyway.⚰️🪦
I think this is extremely common in Florida. They’ve been getting away with it for years. They’re sought after positions among the grifter communities. HOAs and property management companies are a hotbed of criminal activity.
Years ago , Southern California something similar. It seems to be all over the USA. No solid oversight?
I used to play baseball at Hammocks Park next to Hammocks Middle School as a kid and Hammocks is a nice area and family oriented but this is a shocker
So true, some communities are like a fraud board! No gates, no cameras, not good infrastructure but you need to pay the HOA in advance when you buy a property, sometimes they ask you for 2 years in advance and the properties do not look good. They need to investigate more communities.
I knew it. Our HOA goes up all the time. No lift for three years No security. Cutback on services. Fees go up every year.
@Vixelia I feel we need laws that protect people. ALL people should be protected from these HOA scams. I am writing my Senator - as if he didn't know.
Our HOA is about money as well! It’s unbelievable what they are doing. We are paying into our HOA only to get fined by the HOA? How does it make sense! We live in a well established neighborhood and everyone is pretty much always looking out for each other and it’s well kept yet these people don’t bother to clean our bathrooms and parks that are supposed to be managed by them.
people need to move away
Sounds like you chose to live there
you paid for clout have fun sucking at it
Has anyone ever saw a HOA Financial Statement? ...tax documents?
Shining examples of integrity 😩 Yet they do no wrong. Disgusting!
Welcome to America
Outlaw all HOA . They should never be allowed to control anyone's property.
Beneficiaries of a Trust, Escrow, or HOA require transparency. Ideally, any member of the Association should have immediate access to monthly accounting. This is their Association and their right. The State of Florida needs to write new HOA laws that will give peace of mind to the beneficiaries of these Trusts. After all, isn't that the primary reason for HOAs i the first place?
I had an HOA at a condo in Hawaii try to tell me I had to check in a girl I brought home from a beach bar. I told him he was out of his ever loving mind. He threatened to have her car towed from my driveway. I said call Five O before you call a tow truck. He left me alone after that. Pay a quarter mill for a condo and some aholes think they are in charge.
Lol, I love a feel good 👍🏻 news story. 👏🏻
That HOA needs to be completely shut down
Welcome to every hoa in America.
As a BoD Member at our community, I'm glad these people got caught. We've worked hard to keep everything done legally AND in the open. It happens, so please be involved, know your rights and the FL/your state statues governing HOAs & Co-ops. We've had 2 years of correcting bad decisions from previous boards (nothing illegal - just really dumb decisions) and working to accomplish needed repairs neglected from previous managers/Boards. I'm glad we came in during COVID- it gave us time and impetus to go over financial and repair records. We're finally moving forward for our community (of which we all live in).
thank God the 23 year old building I manage in Canada has lots of Engineers and retired professionals. Free help!! People forget most so called HOA's are volunteers. We don't use that term in Canada. But you DO have issue with our management company not really interested in contractor oversight: match the invoice to the job and they cut a check.
NEVER trust your HOA or association. Every quarter ALWAYS get copies of balance statements signed by the treasurer.
Thank goodness.
If they learned their lesson they would destroy the concept of HOA's and stop trying to keep people out of community.
I swear these HOA and management need to be regulated.
The stealing happens in a lot of HOA's. These people were just caught!
Unfortunately, they will have a plea deal.... Probation and 1/3 of restitution
Joining and let alone paying a Homeowners Association to control what you can and cannot do defeats the purpose of owning your own home. You may as well rent a place if you like rules and restrictions because you're not in control. People have far better things to do than worry about what their neighbors are hanging on their clotheslines.
Sorry, the HOA rules state that you can't have a clothesline. You can't wash your car on your driveway, and your flowerbeds are 4" too wide. While you're at it take down that flag on your front porch. Don't put your holiday decorations up earlier than one week in advance, and take them down no later than two days after the holiday. You can't have solar panels or Dish TV where they can be seen from the street. Don't leave a water hose out in the grass, they have to be spooled on an approved hanger that's hidden by a bush.
150 years 😬🤐🤔😃😍 if she's hit with that sentence it would definitely teach a lesson... but they won't, would they?... hell yeah they should...
Any fee happy HOA needs to be independently audited.
The moment they are hesitant or state "Trust us", they need to have multiple independent audits.
Any HOA needs complete transparency with their monies, fees and handling of fines.
I'm on an HOA board and all the board members do services for the HOA at our own expense. We take no compensation, nothing.
if I had a dollar for every time this happened, I’d be on the board of an HOA.