OUR FIRST TIME WATCHING BAND OF BROTHERS EP 4 | Replacements
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- Опубліковано 9 бер 2024
- A fresh group of paratroopers join Easy Co shortly before they drop into German-occupied Holland. The company is forced to retreat when met by a superior force, and the Allied plan to enter Germany through Holland before Christmas falls.
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Once you start watching historical events in retrospect, fiction doesnt matter as much. These are things real people endured. Its fun watching this with y'all.
He was color blind is why he told him to tell him when the color changes. This one took place in Netherlands. He was speaking Dutch except when he first came out of the cellor.
9:10 Occupied Netherlands, they were dutch under occupation.
9:35 They're dutch. Not German. This is the occupied Netherlands.
These are the American stories they stopped teaching in schools. True heroes! 🇺🇸
For 4,5 years people got executed, hungered, send too camps. Except the women whom hanged with the Germans. They had food, wine, safety. Even if they were just trying to survive, it was seen as betrayal. They got shaved, the collaborating men got hanged.
Everyone got it, during the occupation. My grandmother's niece wanted to bring drinking water to family, working in the fields.
She got shot of her bike by a German plain flying by. 14yrs old. So forgive them for taking some revenge.
You guys should check out the movie " A Bridge Too Far" bc it's about Operation Market Garden which is the operation that Easy company in this episode are participating in.
Important Fact: This is a historically based show ....they wont just keep a actor around for the sake of keeping them around.
So when Sobel comes back, thats because he ACTUALLY did....not because they wanted to give the actor more scene time.
They said they were in Holland when Winters told them about the mission near the beginning. And girl did you really ask why he was hiding from the Germans?? 😆
Maybe they just wanna be friends? :D
The Lieutenant that was shot when looking through the binoculars lived (like it said in the episode) he went on to work for the CIA later on his life after the war. One of the easy company guys who didn’t know he survived the gunshot wound later saw the lieutenant in the pentagon (or some other government building in Washington D.C.) and it really freaked him out. He thought he “saw a ghost” when he saw the guy working for the CIA.
My grandfather was a replacement in the Korean War but as a Marine for the 1st Marine division. He was a replacement for the men who fought in the Chosin reservoir (if you don’t know what that is, it’s a big battle famous in the Marine Corps.)
Holland (and other nations as well) does this really awesome “adopt a grave” program where citizens where the American cemeteries are located all take care of a fallen soldiers grave. They bring flowers to them, learn about them, and even connect with family members who still remain around like nieces, sisters, and other family members of the fallen. They really take care of our fallen boys there, they know that those men are resting in their new homeland, and those people take care of our men. It’s such a beautiful thing they do, and they take it VERY seriously.
"Quit looking at me like that! Am I alright??" Is one of my favorite moments. Between Winters and Nix, the care is there. Not bad for Nix, with bullet holes in his helmet, having never fired his weapon in combat. ♠
These weren't Germans, they were Dutch citizens liberated from the Nazis. These people were tormented, tortured, their Jewish citizenry were taken and transported to concentration camps,. The women and men who collaborated with the Nazis were considered no better than the Nazis as they didn't care less about their own people but took advantage of the Germans torturing their neighbors. I have to tell you I do enjoy watching you guys learn. Not many in this recent generation are very deep in history. I mean this was 80 years ago too but these are the kinds of things that people should never forget because when we do, we will repeat this disaster again..
Guys…details, details! They were sent to Holland to liberate the country.
@8:20 those aren’t German women. They’re Dutch, but they’re accused of being collaborators or just too friendly with the Germans. Later the guy offering intelligence to Winters says the women were lucky because they were lining the men who were accused of it up and shooting them.
Y'all should react to WW2 Over simplified. Give you a little context and just the scale.And magnitude of world war two
They are Dutch, NOT Germans. The people there are celebrating having been liberated from the German occupation of their country. And the replacements are only a few of the people you are seeing. The rest of veterans of the company.
It's so painful When people this young know nothing about nothing
Hi Sophie - @ 8:50, Easy Company wasn’t stopping by a parade. They took over a Dutch town that had been occupied by Germans, & the townspeople were glad to see them (the friendly American paratroopers) and were celebrating. As many others said, they were in the Netherlands (Holland)- didn’t get to Germany yet.
They’re in the Netherlands. The Netherlands were occupied for almost 5 years and were happy to be liberated by the allied forces
No spoilers. Just a couple of comments about this chapter:
- Sobel did not want to make E. Company the roughest one, he wanted to be feared by the whole E. Company, officers included. By that time, the E. Company were through the D Day and 90 days of combat. They don't fear Sobel anymore, and Sobet is scared of that, by his facial expression.
- The series is named Band of Brothers for a reason: no man behind, go for your mates missing in action, caring for each other. Real values on combat and outside battlefield. I miss those values, I hope we can have them back.
Germans never invaded England, though they held some Channel Islands. These are the Dutch; they are and they are punishing the women who collaborated with the Germans; male collaborators were killed. This happened in all the occupied countries.
The original Easy Company members were very young themselves. They casted them with older actors, probably because of all the dramatic heavy-lifting required by their roles, so top pros were needed.
The guy who escaped from the hospital to rejoin the company was Popeye Winn. He was the guy who apologized for getting hit when assaulting the German guns in episode 2.
That lieutenant wanting to be tapped when light turns green was color blind - red and green look the same to him.. He hid that so he can serve.
This episode starts when the men were back in England after D-Day and the weeks of battle following it. They spent something like three months in England resting, recuperating and training the replacements. Those three months were essentially the last time Easy and the other companies of the 101st with them would be off the frontlines and away from battle for more than a handful of days till the end of the war in Europe.
And the real life British tank unit misrepresented in this episode (44th Royal Tank Regiment) had no rest and fought all the way through Normandy in June, July and August. Far more battle experienced than the 101st at this point. They'd also previously been in North Africa, Sicily and the Italian mainland.
There was some TREMENDOUS confusion going on in this episode.
14:06 that was Lt. Peacock, replacement officer, same guy who asked Martin to tap him on the leg when the green light turned on.
The way y'all breaking down the timeline about being home for Christmas is perfect. Thinking about the time it took to get to where they are compared to how much is left is really draining. Cant wait for you to watch "why we fight"
War is a violent destructive act. Civilians always suffer and attempted acts of civility, such as trying to minimize damage to Netherland homes, costs soldier's lives. Same today as throughout history.
Now that you mention it, that’s gotta be a top five moment in that kids life. Imagine being a small child in wartime Belgium. Everything is rationed and you’ve never known any different. Then one night the GI joes appear and offer you chocolate.
7:24 yes, he's a replacement officer put in charge of 1st platoon I think (John Martin was 1st platoon Sergeant)
Winters: "Never put yourself in a position to take from these men"
Buck: "Alright...I'll throw left handed then..." 🎯 😉
Gotta give a like just for that opening.
I can relate to Popeye not wanting to miss the jump. when I joined the national guard at 18 (2007) I had what was called "college first" in my contract. Basically, I would be in the guard undepoyable until the end of college, then I'd be deployable. I graduated basic in the last class of 07. When I got to my unit, they said we'd be leaving in September for a deployment. I bonded really well with the guys and kept thinking to myself, "what if something happens to my friends and I could have made a difference?" So I decided to sign away my college first and go with the boys. I don't know that me going made any difference, but then again do we ever truly know what difference our choices make?
This mission on battlefield 1942 (Ww2 video game) was easily the hardest if you played as the allies. You're literally not meant to win. Winning that map as the allies is really fun.
17:06 Lt Brewer was the one shot in the neck at the beginning on the engagement. Lt Buck Compton was shot in the butt while they were retreating.
Operation Market Garden was a planned hatched by the British General Montgomery to enter northern Europe in Holland who had been taken over by the Germans in 1940, so they were an occupied country. The reason the Kid had never tasted Chocolate is because he was born right before the occupation and the germans basically starved the country.
The women who slept with the germans, the resistance krpt tabs on who was on what side. Its a simplification obviously, im sure many if the women didnt have a choice, but anyone who cooperated or gave comfort to the germans were rooted out after the Americans took over. The orange armbands identified the Resistance to the Germans, orange being the national color.
Its tough to really comprehend what's happening sometimes, especially if you dont know the ranks, and a loose understanding of what took place when in the war, youll get a lot out of it if you watch it again, put the subtitles on, and really watch and pay attention. They give you most of the answers to a lot of the questions and dont be afraid to pause and go back if you think youve missed something.😊
An army can only move forward as long as the supply lines can keep up….
having professor X from first class as a private is funny!
Operation Market Garden is a serious mission! it was amjor mission for the airborn!
wow! they have jumped in holland! they aren't in england! holland and german is a differant land!
This is painful to watch!
Dont watch then
Quick note...at 15:16 the helmet did not save Nixon's life...the helmets of WW2 would not stop that bullet. If Nixon had not been wearing the helmet, the bullet would have whizzed right past his head and just scared the crap out of him.
Your look when she said COVID😅
10:20 What they did to the women was mild considering that the male collaborators were shot.
10:33 people are complex and have their own reasons for collaborating with the Germans. Many women that slept with the Nazis did so at their own will, to improve their own living situation. There were some rapes and sexual assaults, but many women who collaborated with the Nazis did so as their own choice. To collaborate with the Nazis would actually mean ratting out your neighbors and loved ones if you expect them to be part of the resistance, which is basically handing them a death sentence. This is why the women’s heads are being shaved and the men were being executed.
Good reaction. Brit + we know a lot of the history, every one of those men that didn't live had a story, a personality, goofed off with their friends and wanted to make it home. The series does a great job of an overview and some of those personal stories.
Obviously, it's a tv show and real history, so you know who made it through, who wrote the book(s) and went on into the world. It's really, really worth watching the documentary We Stand Alone Together - the story of Easy Company - made by the same crew, but more or the men that were actually there talking about their experiences.
Super important lesson of history, what good can be achieve when we put our minds to it. The UK will always be greatful to our Allies, Americans and peoples of the Commonwealth that came to fight with us. Some fascinating stories of troops from Australia, Africa, India, Nepal and all over - the world would be a very different place without their sacrifices.
9:36
1939 Germany invaded Poland.
1940 Germany invaded Netherland.
1944 Easy Company jumps into Normandy.
The little kid is about 5 or 6 years old when he has his first piece of chocolate. You could say that the kid has only lived war and foods of all kinds were in short supply.
This isn't "based" on a true story. It is a true story. Like 99.9% taken directly from the interviews that are sampled at the beginning of each episode, as well as books written by or about the men. Differences in the show are either very small or are simple errors by the historian.
Also, you're not alone: Most men can't go to war either. Even most soldiers can't. Combat troops are always a minority of the military, and the guys in this group were top-shelf among front-line fighters. Normal people can't function at all in that kind of nightmare. That's one of the big reasons not to have a draft, and if you do, you mostly put draftees in support positions rather than combat.
8:56 this happened in almost all the towns that were under Nazi occupation. When the Allies came through, a lot of townspeople would flock out to cheer and greet the Allies coming in as liberators. For the people in the Netherlands, they had been under Nazi occupation for over four years by the time Market Garden happened. And, like a bunch of people that already stated this, they aren’t in Germany. They are in occupied Holland.
War is horrible and should be avoided if possible. But, if you have to, then you go all the way. No half measures.
Pvt Miller is a very young James McAvoy
9:35 they are dutch woman who slept with the enemy. Same happened in Norway and other occupied countries.
Great reaction.
In the beginning they show that they are jumping into Holland, not germany. Holland had been under german occupation for a long time.
I can’t wait for the next 3 episodes iykyk
5:49 it took me ages to figure the point of this scene out. He’s color blind. He can’t tell the difference between red and green for the jump signal light.
8:00 The "revenge" on German civilians and collaborators at the end of WW2 was brutal, up to 2 million German women were raped by the Soviets and a few hundred thousands by the western allies, very few were ever punished for it.
German civilians could not be collaborators since they are Germans. I think you mean civilians in occupied countries like were being portrayed in Holland.
It wasn't on collaborators, it was for revenge after Soviet Union was invaded by Germans.
@@Michael-yl2iq @TheSocratesian If you read my comment I wrote "German women" specifically in regard to the rapes, not collaborators.
@@NordisktLejon Sorry, but the comma placement makes it appear that the first part, "civilians and collaborators", is an all inclusive introductory to the second part. This is how my misunderstanding occurred. I now understand what you meant.
3:48 contrary to what you’re saying, at this point in time, Easy Company hadn’t made any combat jumps since Normandy on June 6th. That wasn’t what was supposed to happen, but General Patton and the US Third Army kept overrunning their drop-zones due to the amount of ground they ended up covering and the Airborne operations ended up getting scrapped (no need to parachute drop behind friendly lines). So Easy Company has been preparing for operations and then having them cancelled, so they have been chilling in England for about two months waiting for the next jump into Europe, and it would come in the form of Market Garden.
Not just Patton. Montgomery and Bradley kept overrunning the drop zones. There were two dozen planned drops cancelled.
@@lyndoncmp5751 I mean, yay you don’t have to parachute drop into a warzone, but I can’t imagine how pissed I would be to prepare for 24 operations only for all of them to be cancelled because the Germans kept retreating.
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Yes the Airborne was very frustrated. The newly formed First Allied Airborne Army was desperate to get into action and jump before the war was over. They didn't want it to pass them by.
Hi hooooo silver!!!
There were different types of sleeping with the Germans. 1. Those woman forced to. 2. Those woman who chose to. Yes this is an oversimplification. Believe you me that the resistance knew which woman were in each category. The ones being shaved chose to. Hence they were collaborators.
You gotta be kidding.
Do they teach history at La Salle
Sophie's really struggling wit this show!!"whys he hiding like that" ??? Lol maybe cause theres a whole group of germans surrounding him
Bravo.
Wars come and go. But remember this was the second WORLD war, meaning almost every country int he world was either in direct conflict or under occupation. No war, before or since, had such extreme consequences. The populations of occupied countries (Netherlands in this case) often provided intelligence to their occupiers in exchange for safety, or they would join resistance movements against the occupation. Either way, people had difficult decisions to make and nobody was truly safe until the war was over. It's not fair to judge what people did but imagine how Americans would react to our own people collaborating with an enemy...
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Operation Market-Garden was a flawed plan to begin with whose failure really had nothing to do with the men on the ground. The 101st and 82nd were all landed within 2-3 miles of the bridges they were supposed to take. Some of the British drop zones were 10 miles from the objectives they were supposed to take. Also most of the command staff for the British 1st Airbourne were dropped basically into Field Marshall Model's lap and were captured or killed within hours of the start with the plans for the entire operation.
The failure was primarily the over caution by Brereton and Williams of the USAAF and Hollinghurst of the RAF. Brereton and Williams refused to fly double missions on day one and Hollinghurst refused to drop closer to Arnhem.
@@lyndoncmp5751 General Gavin also shares some of the blame for failing to take Nijmegen on the first day, opting for the Groesbeek Heights…
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True, although by all accounts Lindquist of the 508th PIR failed to move on the bridge asap when it was lightly defended. Gavin apparently told Lindquist to do this pre drop but Lindquist either misheard his orders or was just too lax. Gavin also ordered him again around 6.00 pm but Lindquist took his time and it was two more hours before the 508th set off. On the other hand others have said Gavin shouldn't have tasked the 508th with that job and maybe given it to the 504th PIR.
@@lyndoncmp5751 Lindquist’s account, and all other regimental commanders’, are entirely different. They nearly had a revolt on their hands like Lew Wallace at Shiloh. Gavin ordered them not to take the bridges and to focus on the heights.
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Well Gavin didn't order them not to take the bridge. Priority WAS for the heights yes but he did tell Lindquist to strike for the bridge without delay if the situation in his sector was quiet, which it was. As I said, Gavin reordered him to "delay not a second longer" about 6.00 pm and Lindquist DID move on the bridge, but he took his time and one of the companies actually got lost. They got near the bridge at 10.00 pm but SS reinforcements had just arrived and it was too late by then. So there actually WAS a move on the bridge on the first day. Gavin allowed it.
Let me see if I can help you guys out a little bit!! First of all yes don't try to overthink too much just watch and soak it in because yes it is definitely history that you are watching!! Not everyone that you saw in this episode was a replacement!! I think by now you should recognize at least four or five of the regular characters that you've been seeing in the past few episodes!! Not sure how far you guys are on patreon but just to explain this episode if no one has already done that let me say this!
This was the country of Holland, the 101st parachuted into Holland which was occupied by Germany at the time!! The intention was to liberate Holland from the Germans and push them back into Germany!! It was thought that if we could accomplish this we would be able to attack on German soil and have the war over by Christmas of 44!! The women were thought of as collaborators!! I personally don't agree with the way they were treated because you don't know the circumstance by which they may have been forced to sleep with German soldiers!! Show all the civilians that you saw waving orange and the man with his little boy were all Dutch civilians, not Germans!! The mission as you saw was a failure!!
There is a 1977 movie called "A Bridge Too Far" which is a more detailed look at this operation from the British point of view, Brits took the most losses in this failed operation!!!
Even though we thought it was only old men and boys that were defending what we didn't know was that an elite division of German soldiers were brought in there for some r&r (rest and relaxation)!
It's difficult as it is to understand that we had to go into the cities which are occupied by civilians and German soldiers in order to clear them out there was no choice!!! It wasn't like we could send out a message telling the civilians to get out of town because we're coming to kill Germans!!😮
The Germans had occupied Holland for 4 years so the people were happy the Germans had been run out. The Germans had not allowed the citizens luxury like chocolate
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Combination of you 2 please can we get a live stream? I think this would be very popular
Also allow superchats it's free money 🤘
Also get channel memberships, monetize what you got! Your selling a product and that's you 2 and your reactions and we love it that's why you have over 20k subs
Sorry I mean almost 24k
I find that you both are "missing" alot. It seems you are both not "into" the show yet. Your reactions are very shallow now. Take some time to digest what you are seeing in the lives of these men. Your reactions will be even better. I think it may help to pause when you talk and then get back into it. Just a suggestion. Looking forward to Crossroads and beyond.
Why do you keep saying “I’m not going to lie”??
Do you normally lie?
It’s worth mentioning that it’s likely the Dutch women “collaborators” had no choice under German occupation. What was done to them was tragic.
Awesome observation about covid as a trauma experience. It's certainly a story to tell younger people who won't have experienced it. My family flourished at home, but many people did not.
The senior officer who ordered another soldier to tell him when the jump light turns green wasn't shown to depict replacements as incompetent. He is one of many soldiers who lied about being color blind. The TV show inserts a lot of references to things without explaining them, implying without directly stating.
Good observation later when the same lieutenant is asked what to do in the middle of combat and he isn't sure. I've seen the whole series many times and never picked up on that he was a replacement, rather than someone that the show didn't focus on before.
The father who offered the soldiers pickled eggs was Belgian. German is an official or co-official language in Germany, Austria, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg and Belgium. The Dutch language is similar to German, their both being West Germanic languages. If, as other commenters have noted, the father was speaking Dutch, then the person who transcribed the subtitles could have made a mistake. On paper, the two languages share many words... the chief differences being pronunciation and sentence structure. The languages are far enough apart that if you speak one and not the other, it would be hard for you to understand someone speaking the other language. But to a transcriber using Google Translate, they could misidentify the language being spoken.
Show more of the show and less commentary, you clearly don’t know much about WW2
Dutch sounds a lot like German
England? Why the f would they drop into England? It's the neatherlands. Pay attention
So much yapping you miss hearing important things.. Everything you guys say out loud that you think is going to happen is wrong every time. Quit assume also.
The father and daughter were there because THEY LIVE THERE! I mean, it's in the 1940s. Do you think all civilians across Europe and the world just have some spare place to go to?
And you are shocked that a combat soldier used combat?! After my fifth or sixth comment in a few minutes. I guess I just have to realize certain people. Just know absolutely nothing About history or anything important. All of this stuff is exciting to learn about. I remember I was. I just don't get how other people don't see it like that. Instead they are focused on stupid crap.
You guys should have watched a few world war 2 documentaries before watching this.. Because some of the things being said.. blows my mind. I knew about all of this in pretty good detail when I was like 10 years old. I'm only 34, so you can't come. Call me some old dude like you're probably thinking.. I just think it's insane how people under 30 pretty much know nothing about any of these wars or really Anything important anymore. I mean, these 2 don't even understand how a war is fought or what happens, it seems. Of course, they are thought in cities and towns. You can't avoid it. It is too big. That's another thing. THEY CANT SEEM TO UNDERSTAND HOW BIG THE WAR IS and How it's Fought across the European continents and many any other places in the world. ALL AT THE SAME TIME... MILLIONS of people. I can't even imagine these 2 finding out about concentration camps.. Even if they've heard of them before, i'm sure they don't know the complete details. Yeah i'm sure they've never seen pictures.
And this dude saying that they are doing a bad job at the moment.. So cringe. He doesn't understand this happen in real life. No matter how many times he hears it in the beginning. It's so hard not to keep coming back to comment on this page because it's annoying hearing some of the things I hear. And I'm sure people will come in to stick up for them saying that they don't know about war. Or never been in the military. But I'm talking about things that are common. Sense that they just don't understand or catch on to.
Why write a book about it though? Did you sit through a whole video snickering and scoffing? 😂 It's Sunday morning bruv, make some flap jacks for the family. Tf
What gets lost to history is how much the Dutch suffered under German occupation. The scene with the little boy and 'he never tasted chocolate' was too soft a reminder. The Germans stripped food, fuel and other resources. By 1944 they took so much that thousands of Dutch died from the elements and starvation. This is the reason for the Dutch resistance getting revenge on anyone who helped the Germans for the 4+ years of occupation.