I have too much respect for judges like Coder, especially Coder here. He entertains chat and has to deal with random calls like that xD. Unchained is fun though, glad to see fun on Twitch
It’s okay Coder, I forget to Pank all the time too because I forget that Dinowrestlers even exist. Imagine making an entire archetype just to give us one playable card.
@@lilsunny7399 This must be what Cyber Dragon felt like on release. “Hey guys, glad to see I’m in your deck again. Oh man, are you going to fuse me together with my friends and make a big cool boss monster? No? 2100 beat stick again, eh.. well that’s okay. Maybe next time.”
9:20 Yeah people don't know you cannot force your opponent to pick a legal target, that's because targeting a card is not a cost, it's an activation requirement, meaning that if you pick an invalid target, the activation itself is illegal, that's different from paying a cost for an effect (and that's why some judges get pissed when someone says targeting is a cost). It's like when someone declares a Link Summon and Links a monster that they cannot legaly make, you don't say to your opponent "but you already declared a Link Summon, link summon a legal monster.", right? Well, is the same principle as targeting cards for activation requirements. The reason why people think you're forced to pick a target is because of automated simulators where you're force to always pick a valid target. That and many other reasons are why automatic simulators shouldn't be taken seriously for rulings, or at least being taken with a grain of salt.
I’m not quite sure that I understand with the comparison you’re using as auto sims already hide illegal targets for Xyz, Syncro and Link summons based on the current game state during the duel. I have little experience playing the game outside an auto sim, so sorry for my confusion.
Isn’t cost and activation requirement the same thing? Activation requirement is just the proper way to say “cost”. Also this is the only issue with simulators. Other than this simulators are a really good way to learn rulings. (Assuming they have the correct rulings)
@@DimkaSulegnaa [I dont actually know the ruling I am just translating the original comment] Auto sims let you fulfil the picking requirement before you summon, so it stops most messes with "illegal summons" since it just isn't possible. But with targeting for cards it only lets you pick after you already "activate" (you technically haven't until you picked a zone since they are both meant to be done simultaneously) which is technically incorrect and should be the same as the summoning. The point the original comment was making is that in manual sims most people know that if someone does an illegal summon they have to revert the summon completely since auto sims basically stop anyone from doing that. But with targeting for cards auto sims do a weird thing where they add an extra ruling where the player is forced to choose any valid target if the original target isn't valid, which is technically not part of the rules (at least for cards that don't use targeting as a effect). It should work like summoning where you are forced to revert.
not true. if you link summon into the wrong monster a judge can force you to summon a legal target if you have one ._.) synchro/link/xyz summon is not the same as illegal activation
I have seen a judge tell someone to link summon a legal target in their ED if there is one before, and thought it was really stupid at the time. Thanks for letting me know that's not okay indirectly
12:25 He should’ve explained how anything that says “destroy” is always done at resolution (after semicolon) while anything that says “target” is done at activation (before semicolon). So that would mean DD Crow can only stop cards when everything happens before the semicolon.
Idea for another Rulings Quiz: Clifton Land, with Drytrons. I feel that since he plays this deck, he should know most, but with the lesser known spells, traps and such, i feel that you could throw him for a loop. Keep up the great work, and cant wait to see more from you.
as a duel links player skills are once per duel its a bit painful because there's no reason as to why its once per turn it just is because Konomi said so. also no with the Christmas music
Once again, the Twitch link keeps breaking and adding some weird Wingdings at the end of the Twitch link. I have to manually remove the end bits. I'm not upset, it's just funny. XD
So a card like ''Tri-Brigade Revolt'' that has the text that you described: You can respond to the spell trap activation/Monster effect activation like normal, on chain. Then AFTER it has fully resolved, the ''immediately after this effect resolves'' goes, but this is NOT part of the chain. In the case of Revolt, Revolt special summons cards from the gy, then after that part has resolved, you perform a normal link summon, at which point it can be responded to with Solemn Strike. If this part was all the same effect, you could not Solemn Strike it for example, because you respond to the trap activation, which Solemn Judgment and Warning deal with. Hope it helps
Actually I just seen what the Geist player did. I’d hate Geist too if someone tried pulling that bullshit. He was like screw the rules I have trap cards 😂😂😂😂😂
On turn 2 while I have Destroyer Phoenix Enforcer on the field, I active Break the Destiny during my opponents draw/standby phase to destroy DPE to skip my opponent’s Main Phase 1. Does my opponent have to go straight to Main Phase 2 or do they just lose their whole turn since they can’t go into the battle phase??
Why would he negate rakea with Barrone ? You had no cards in hand so popping abom accomplishes nothing, and even if you did have cards in hand, it would be more worth it to wait for the abom to trigger and negate that
i had a game in locals where at the start of the game, we had to cut of decks, he picked up my deck and shuffled it which is normally fine, but the way he picked it up and shuffled it (which having the angle of the cards pointing towards him), while looking at the deck made it seemed he was actually looking at my cards at the bottom of my deck. Would this be considered cheating in a real tournaments?
So quick question, so if I xyz summon for dark rebellion xyz dragon and want to rank up to dark requiem, do I need the rank up magic spell card or not.
Some say Pankratops is still sitting in his hand, waiting for Coder to activate him to this day
I discarded it for cost for Abom LOL
DistantCoder BRUH Ma boi didnt deserve this, how could you do that to him LOL
This needs to be a meme.
#ForgottoPank
Better then the Mothman in Cimos hand in the episode of Prog
Maybe the treasure was the pankratops we kept in our hands along the ways
I have too much respect for judges like Coder, especially Coder here. He entertains chat and has to deal with random calls like that xD. Unchained is fun though, glad to see fun on Twitch
Considering the Japanese-English pun with Raigeki, Coder basically said "When the Thunder bolts" and I laughed a little too hard at that.
I died when you screamed "YOU DIDN'T TELL ME IT WAS A SINGLE!?!?"
Same LMAO
That bit with Sam was so wholesome. I love how so many people in the community are actually friends with each other
I love how those bugged Duels always terrify him. Also Coders editor is doing a great job.
"You didn't tell me it was a single."
Well, Coder. What done is done.
It’s okay Coder, I forget to Pank all the time too because I forget that Dinowrestlers even exist.
Imagine making an entire archetype just to give us one playable card.
hey now. World Dino Wrestling wasn't terrible once upon a time...because it searched pank.
@@lilsunny7399
This must be what Cyber Dragon felt like on release.
“Hey guys, glad to see I’m in your deck again. Oh man, are you going to fuse me together with my friends and make a big cool boss monster? No? 2100 beat stick again, eh.. well that’s okay. Maybe next time.”
Dinowrestlers are at least fun to play with, they're just not super strong
*Crystron Halqifibrax left the group*
*looks at halq, isolde (before infernoble), and the gang*
Sorry guys
Imagine forgetting pank. Just like every other dinowrestler card in existence
Wait... There are others!?
@@TechHug Unfortunately
:O Featured in a Coder video? Actually very cool. Thanks for the double stream yesterday by the way
Name me a better duo than "Dark Ruler No More" and "Evenly Matched".
I'll wait.
DRNM into Mystic Mine KEKW
Anaconda dragoon before enforcer got released
Ez gonna even meme Zane and power bond draw
Hes tactically reserving pank it's okay
9:20 Yeah people don't know you cannot force your opponent to pick a legal target, that's because targeting a card is not a cost, it's an activation requirement, meaning that if you pick an invalid target, the activation itself is illegal, that's different from paying a cost for an effect (and that's why some judges get pissed when someone says targeting is a cost). It's like when someone declares a Link Summon and Links a monster that they cannot legaly make, you don't say to your opponent "but you already declared a Link Summon, link summon a legal monster.", right? Well, is the same principle as targeting cards for activation requirements.
The reason why people think you're forced to pick a target is because of automated simulators where you're force to always pick a valid target. That and many other reasons are why automatic simulators shouldn't be taken seriously for rulings, or at least being taken with a grain of salt.
I’m not quite sure that I understand with the comparison you’re using as auto sims already hide illegal targets for Xyz, Syncro and Link summons based on the current game state during the duel.
I have little experience playing the game outside an auto sim, so sorry for my confusion.
Isn’t cost and activation requirement the same thing? Activation requirement is just the proper way to say “cost”.
Also this is the only issue with simulators. Other than this simulators are a really good way to learn rulings. (Assuming they have the correct rulings)
@@DimkaSulegnaa
[I dont actually know the ruling I am just translating the original comment]
Auto sims let you fulfil the picking requirement before you summon, so it stops most messes with "illegal summons" since it just isn't possible.
But with targeting for cards it only lets you pick after you already "activate" (you technically haven't until you picked a zone since they are both meant to be done simultaneously) which is technically incorrect and should be the same as the summoning.
The point the original comment was making is that in manual sims most people know that if someone does an illegal summon they have to revert the summon completely since auto sims basically stop anyone from doing that.
But with targeting for cards auto sims do a weird thing where they add an extra ruling where the player is forced to choose any valid target if the original target isn't valid, which is technically not part of the rules (at least for cards that don't use targeting as a effect). It should work like summoning where you are forced to revert.
not true. if you link summon into the wrong monster a judge can force you to summon a legal target if you have one ._.)
synchro/link/xyz summon is not the same as illegal activation
I have seen a judge tell someone to link summon a legal target in their ED if there is one before, and thought it was really stupid at the time. Thanks for letting me know that's not okay indirectly
In ancient lands, they speak of Coder and his ability to always draw the dog and his unwavering appreciation of Pankratops to remain in hand.
“Your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberries”
"I FORGOT TO PANK!" The line that made my fuckin day dude.
12:25 He should’ve explained how anything that says “destroy” is always done at resolution (after semicolon) while anything that says “target” is done at activation (before semicolon). So that would mean DD Crow can only stop cards when everything happens before the semicolon.
Coder forgetting to Pank is my spirit animal
What if, you went to heaven, but then God said: "I forgot to Pank!"
the Lavender Town theme on the bugged clip was the funniest shit ive seen all day
I had a funny judge call last night because my opponent didn't understand that plunder patroll moerk effect is a quick effect if equip
"Okay nevermind back to UA-cam" that line spoke to me.
It is never a bad time of year to listen to Christmas Music. BROADCASTING it on the other hand…
Watching theses vids helps me stay off and away from dueling book. Never played it once😂
If only more judges were like you
Coder should have "I forgot to Pank, F***" as a notification clip. Don't know where, but it'd be funny lol.
still can't believe he missed two opportunities to summon pank
Idea for another Rulings Quiz: Clifton Land, with Drytrons. I feel that since he plays this deck, he should know most, but with the lesser known spells, traps and such, i feel that you could throw him for a loop. Keep up the great work, and cant wait to see more from you.
New Coder video? Instant like
New DistantCoder highlight, poggers
that's funny because our work started playing christmas music today too XD
12:47 top left best thumbnail and Edison Deck
2:24 I didn’t know Christian Cage played Yu-Gi-Oh!
I don't even play modern yugioh, and still watch these
when the cross out is designated
Poggers new Coder video!
@7:40 it's fucking November, it ain't christmas y'all
You know Coder if you just didn’t play Pank, you wouldn’t have that problem.
SantaCoder looking kinda cute ngl
as a duel links player skills are once per duel its a bit painful because there's no reason as to why its once per turn it just is because Konomi said so. also no with the Christmas music
That is the correct reaction to DRNM > Evenly.
Finally some sus content, beautiful bro
On the third day of Christmas Konami gave to me 1 harp horror 2 miragstalio 3 lithosagym please Konami don't fail me!
watching coder makes me wanna learn how to actually play the game and rules and shit
it's already that time of the year ????
Do they have Christmas in Canada?
8:00 rip vod watchers
These are confusing times.
Once again, the Twitch link keeps breaking and adding some weird Wingdings at the end of the Twitch link. I have to manually remove the end bits. I'm not upset, it's just funny. XD
Hey Coder, do you watch DB Grinder videos?
These are always so funny!
4:20
Nice Goofy impersonation.
7:37 DistantCoder? more like ChristmasCoder!
SantaCoder
Preceding to scoop phase.... Also nice hat
You wait is that speed duel ruling correct, can you only use 1 skill eff per turn?
Oh god why does MBT sound like that on Coder's end?
Again with the cursed soundtrack for the glitched game😬
Could you explain the window for “immediately after this effect resolves” like floowandereeze monsters. What window do you have to respond
So a card like ''Tri-Brigade Revolt'' that has the text that you described: You can respond to the spell trap activation/Monster effect activation like normal, on chain. Then AFTER it has fully resolved, the ''immediately after this effect resolves'' goes, but this is NOT part of the chain. In the case of Revolt, Revolt special summons cards from the gy, then after that part has resolved, you perform a normal link summon, at which point it can be responded to with Solemn Strike. If this part was all the same effect, you could not Solemn Strike it for example, because you respond to the trap activation, which Solemn Judgment and Warning deal with. Hope it helps
Do dueling book judges get paid or is it like a volunteer thing?
TFW you forget to pank
Crimbis Coder is Best Coder
Xkraken47 is a DB ghost
Anyone know the music in 3:30?
Yo, Bob burgers hoody. Based
I’m a simple guy I see multifaker in the thumbnail and distant coder next to it and I click. One day he will like Geist 😅
Actually I just seen what the Geist player did. I’d hate Geist too if someone tried pulling that bullshit. He was like screw the rules I have trap cards 😂😂😂😂😂
Hilarious a lot of coder viewer still not learn any things xD
nice music tho 10:46
Did his twitch change since I cant find it ?
On turn 2 while I have Destroyer Phoenix Enforcer on the field, I active Break the Destiny during my opponents draw/standby phase to destroy DPE to skip my opponent’s Main Phase 1. Does my opponent have to go straight to Main Phase 2 or do they just lose their whole turn since they can’t go into the battle phase??
Bit late but they can go to the battle phase
@@dannyboers4704 with no monsters on field? They can’t summon anything
@@AngelofDeath333 yes you can still conduct your battle phase even if you have no monsters
@@dannyboers4704 I need someone else’s opinion on my question
@@AngelofDeath333 yes you can go into the battle phase with no monsters then from the battle phase go to the m2
distant (coder), u are so charming with that christmas hat.
Why would he negate rakea with Barrone ? You had no cards in hand so popping abom accomplishes nothing, and even if you did have cards in hand, it would be more worth it to wait for the abom to trigger and negate that
i had a game in locals where at the start of the game, we had to cut of decks, he picked up my deck and shuffled it which is normally fine, but the way he picked it up and shuffled it (which having the angle of the cards pointing towards him), while looking at the deck made it seemed he was actually looking at my cards at the bottom of my deck. Would this be considered cheating in a real tournaments?
Yes because he is attempting to gain knowledge of things that are in private knowledge locations.
Sacrilege, you have to go back and lose that match to pendulums or pend god trif will be displeased. Pend best deck lessss goooo
I hate Christmas music. Purely because I hear it for 8 hours while I work, 5 days a week for 2 months
Immagine db with voice chat
So quick question, so if I xyz summon for dark rebellion xyz dragon and want to rank up to dark requiem, do I need the rank up magic spell card or not.
Yes. Dark Requiem doesn't say that it can summon itself using Dark Rebellion, so you have to use another effect to bring him out.
@@MasterQuestMaster oh okay thanks
Dark Requiem does not have the "you can XYZ summon this card card by using 1 ___ you control text" that Zoodiacs and Dingirsu have.
@@SoggyWaffles. or some utopia monsters
Coder I sent you a message through a UA-cam comment
Shame - a good video but I have to dislike it for Christmas before November 12. Honour the veterans and fallen, THEN beg for toys.
If You are gonna scream, can you please stay away from your mic ? :(