FULL RESPONSE | SaVon & Alex Address The R&M Situation | "Misplaced Energy"

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  • @azaelandy04
    @azaelandy04 8 місяців тому +280

    I went back to the episode and Alex pretty clearly said “they were (Rory and Mal) discussing the workflow, feeling overworked and how we can move things around” … “why y’all coming to us (Savon & Alex) like I’m a worker”
    So yea he definitely painted a narrative

    • @Giddywiddy
      @Giddywiddy 8 місяців тому +10

      But in context it makes sense as he was referring to the content of the discussion not necessarily who started it

    • @me7659
      @me7659 8 місяців тому +8

      Are ppl getting caught up on the working? Maybe Mal and Rory said something like “like we don’t get paid enough, we are working a lot” and Alex took it as them being “underpaid and overworked.” Technically maybe Mal and Rory didn’t use the word “overworked”. Bc I am pretty damn sure that Rory and Mal have expressed those feelings since leaving

    • @nicolebabi1314
      @nicolebabi1314 8 місяців тому +8

      @@me7659exactly! Semantics and context. Alex did not lie. They tried to say he did just bcuz they didn’t use those words. But the point is the took that they were getting alighted by Joe from the conversation. I mean the fact that they said Joe stole kinda supports that POV.

    • @JRMR-td1tm
      @JRMR-td1tm 8 місяців тому +23

      Parks even said Alex and Savon did re-imagine the story and he was also upset about the narratives! And still this whole time Alex was acting like he never said it.. would’ve been nice for Savon to have played that specific portion of the pod back for Alex to allow him to speak to it

    • @shemshap
      @shemshap 8 місяців тому +7

      @@Giddywiddy it doesnt make sense in context, saying that mal and rory "coming to us" totally changes the narrative and is categorically false

  • @andregiacomini4145
    @andregiacomini4145 8 місяців тому +303

    Goddman man it's not that complicated. Alex said that Rory and Mal were the ones that came to them talkin bout being overworked and underpaied. And Rory and Mal responded that that was not true. Alex just need to say "yo my bad, it was not like that, what I wanted to say it was that we was feeling like that".
    That's it man.

    • @voltear
      @voltear 8 місяців тому +21

      SERIOUSLY BRUUU. I think it’s just an hour for content. Why not take advantage of the extra views from last week? Its all COE smh

    • @chrisotive
      @chrisotive 8 місяців тому +6

      indeed

    • @Maybe2Smoove
      @Maybe2Smoove 8 місяців тому +12

      Thats all they had to say

    • @oladeebiazazi4538
      @oladeebiazazi4538 8 місяців тому +12

      It’s just sad tbh Alex lied and he couldn’t take accountability for it

    • @Gooddaybadnews9000
      @Gooddaybadnews9000 8 місяців тому +2

      Thank you for the breakdown bro cus I’m lost af

  • @donnacooper9746
    @donnacooper9746 8 місяців тому +204

    It’s nothing wrong with saying you are overworked and underpaid. We all feel like that. It’s pushing that on Mal and Rory like they were the main one feeling that way

    • @sdot7117
      @sdot7117 8 місяців тому +10

      Rory and Mal BEEN saying that. Are we catching amnesia??

    • @edworeyes
      @edworeyes 8 місяців тому +6

      @@sdot7117 completely skipping over that last sentence lol

    • @sdot7117
      @sdot7117 8 місяців тому +1

      @@edworeyes technically they were the MAIN ones. They hired an auditor so they could get more money 😂

    • @davidearle7209
      @davidearle7209 8 місяців тому +4

      Well I’m confused because isn’t one of the reasons they left was because Joe wasn’t paying them as much as he could’ve been? Isn’t that the root of the accounting Joke that Rory and mal make all the time

    • @2Muchpjp
      @2Muchpjp 8 місяців тому +9

      ​@@sdot7117there is plenty of old JBP footage of Mal and Rory saying what the issue is. Someone already made a compilation lol. In one clip Rory sais to Joe, on air, in 2021, that the staff told him they were overworked and underpaid. Mal immediately followed that up with his only issues being respect and transparency with the buisness. To top it all off, pause, Parks, on today's pod sad Alex and Savon lied. Joe budden is a formet pill poping dust head, just to remind yall lmao.

  • @pujapatel5326
    @pujapatel5326 8 місяців тому +220

    Damn the accountability is just non-existent

    • @rafaeljones2039
      @rafaeljones2039 8 місяців тому +7

      How not so? They said had a poor choice words, Savon talked too Rory told him he was going to clean it up and Rory still went on the pod a bashed him, where’s the accountability in that? Where’s the integrity in that?

    • @shemshap
      @shemshap 8 місяців тому +5

      @@rafaeljones2039poor choice of words is not the same as lying and painting a diff narrative. Rory never bashed him, he even reiterated that he had a good convo with savon and doesnt have beef with him, why are you lying. Mal was more bashing alex

    • @rafaeljones2039
      @rafaeljones2039 8 місяців тому

      @@shemshap what narrative did that paint? Saying “I talked to Savon he said he’ll clean it up but I don’t have faith in it” is that you respecting me as a man or a friend? Especially when i basically look up too u. They said they were dick riding they choose sides, their liars, how is that not bashing?? And if Savon has to pay for Alex choice of words why doesn’t Rory have to pay for mall’s ???

    • @antoineLebrane
      @antoineLebrane 8 місяців тому

      @@shemshap man you seriously meat riding

    • @sinamen516
      @sinamen516 8 місяців тому

      They get it from Joe 😂😂

  • @billy2069
    @billy2069 8 місяців тому +34

    Accountability zero from Alex. Grow up

  • @along58
    @along58 8 місяців тому +188

    No. It's not about comprehension, it's about what you said. As a person who watched the episode, you all communicated this in a way that made it seem like rory and mal came to you. It wasn't about the meeting actually happening, it wasn't out of context. Alex said that Rory and Mal led the conversation. A simple "my bad" would've done it here guys.

    • @TheEllisPrice
      @TheEllisPrice 8 місяців тому

      They were afraid of Joe. They didn't wanna out right say THEY had a problem so they put it on R&M

    • @alihamdon6644
      @alihamdon6644 8 місяців тому +2

      But why is Rory & Mals response to lie as well? Now we have to address it as well.

    • @alihamdon6644
      @alihamdon6644 8 місяців тому +5

      Idk how you expect a “my bad” after calling me a ball licker & lying about the situation multiple times. Rory & especially Mal don’t look good in this. Mal grew up with Jay Z, probably stayed at the four seasons on weekends & proudly says he never worked a corporate job. To clown someone & call them a ball glazer for being thankful for giving them an opportunity is wild & just shows he’s never really worked hard for shit.

    • @JodyG6DaPRInCe
      @JodyG6DaPRInCe 8 місяців тому

      Thank U, now they sittin here looking like some Hoes, Straight up!! Man to man, U was wrong Own it..
      💙💪🖤🇵🇷🙏♿️

    • @along58
      @along58 8 місяців тому +3

      @@alihamdon6644I’m not sure what you’re saying in your message, can you clarify?

  • @mralexander1981
    @mralexander1981 8 місяців тому +168

    They did evvvvvvverything but address Alex’s comment and framing of the meeting that started the issue. Even before Rory and Mal responded I knew Alex’s “They felt over worked” and “why were they talking to us?” was a problem. This episode could have been 10 minutes instead of an hour.

    • @diddy2612
      @diddy2612 8 місяців тому +2

      Everything but!

    • @vinnizle
      @vinnizle 8 місяців тому +7

      Spin artistry. They didn't address what Alwx said and tried to keep the energy on Savon because they knew exposing Alex had no defense

    • @rafaeljones2039
      @rafaeljones2039 8 місяців тому +1

      They did you just too slow

    • @diddy2612
      @diddy2612 8 місяців тому

      @@vinnizle exactly!

    • @kamjohnson23
      @kamjohnson23 8 місяців тому +3

      They did correct what was said. I think their whole point is why did they get so offended at something that isnt a big deal. Rory and Mal were really mad that Joe came on the show and they wanted to find an excuse to insult them

  • @waynesmiley2207
    @waynesmiley2207 8 місяців тому +130

    The older I get, the more I realize that the overwhelming majority of problems stem from the lack of clear communication. I enjoy watching all three pods and want everyone to continue progressing.

    • @vinnizle
      @vinnizle 8 місяців тому +3

      There's a difference between lack of clear communication and someone outwardly lying to paint a narrative and getvon someone's good side. Not only did Alex say Rory and Mal came to them about being overworked and underpaid, he also doubled down on it by saying how crazy he thought it was for them to do that because of their relative positions. He reiterated and cleared up his point so there would be no confusion.

    • @antoineLebrane
      @antoineLebrane 8 місяців тому +8

      @@vinnizle man get off rory and mals sack

    • @williamb9631
      @williamb9631 8 місяців тому +1

      Joe show seems forced and this is my second time watching any other savon content.

    • @Ransom1867
      @Ransom1867 8 місяців тому

      100% agree.

    • @hudaifah-nn4re
      @hudaifah-nn4re 8 місяців тому +2

      @@antoineLebranehe ain't on they sack he simply telling the truth

  • @vinnizle
    @vinnizle 8 місяців тому +709

    Its not a genuine response if Alex dont take accountability. He started all this. His words was Rory and Mal came to them about being overworked and he thought they was crazy because hes just a worker and cant do anything. Hes the one that created the narrative. Savon let it run and thats the issue

    • @Classikh
      @Classikh 8 місяців тому +71

      Rory and Mal have no reason to lie. Savon and Alex do

    • @cvo7617
      @cvo7617 8 місяців тому +84

      ​@@Classikhget off your knees everyone is capable of lying

    • @kingkt9112
      @kingkt9112 8 місяців тому +39

      @@Classikhfor what reason? Savon was at the JBP a month ago chillin so clearly he still has a relationship with Joe he didn’t need anything from having him on the show, but Bare and minimum always like to play victim

    • @stefmarqis9937
      @stefmarqis9937 8 місяців тому

      Not it .these niggas corny

    • @andregiacomini4145
      @andregiacomini4145 8 місяців тому +30

      ​@@kingkt9112 exactly, he still has a relationship with Joe, so he could lie to maintain a good relationship with the dude with the big podcast.

  • @mikelovebx7216
    @mikelovebx7216 8 місяців тому +221

    Screen man being offended for being called a liar after lying is nuts 😂 Man said nothing, didn’t address what they called him a liar for and took accountability for nothing. Props to Savon for taking accountability and hard carrying this response in a real way.

    • @Maybe2Smoove
      @Maybe2Smoove 8 місяців тому +4

      Factssss

    • @LaMar34_34
      @LaMar34_34 8 місяців тому +19

      The fact that you say screenman says a lot

    • @TheEllisPrice
      @TheEllisPrice 8 місяців тому +19

      ​@@LaMar34_34That's what they called him for years! Lol

    • @diddy2612
      @diddy2612 8 місяців тому +2

      @@TheEllisPriceliterally what they called him lol

    • @nosenselove
      @nosenselove 8 місяців тому +4

      @@diddy2612but you on his channel, so respectfully its Alex, not screenman

  • @joeamado2693
    @joeamado2693 8 місяців тому +265

    Bro this is wild. This is an clear example of social media creating ego delusions. They can’t even see how they were wrong

    • @JodyG6DaPRInCe
      @JodyG6DaPRInCe 8 місяців тому

      Correct, & now they just sound like sum Hoes..
      💙💪🖤🇵🇷🙏♿️

    • @alihamdon6644
      @alihamdon6644 8 місяців тому +18

      They said multiple times it could’ve been done better. They take responsibility in the video multiple times. Rory & Mal are not excused for that bullshit. Im done with their pod after this

    • @joeamado2693
      @joeamado2693 8 місяців тому +26

      @@alihamdon6644 that’s not how you take accountability but to each it’s own. Also you sound emotional for being done with something off just feelings. You should go off if you like it or not. 😂

    • @alihamdon6644
      @alihamdon6644 8 місяців тому +12

      @@joeamado2693 how is that not taking responsibly? Saying that you made mistakes, could’ve done things better is taking accountability. Did you want an apology? Because you are tripping if you believe I’m giving anybody who calls me a ball glazer an apology after that. Speaking for ego & delusion. Mal clowning Sayvon & calling him a ball licker for thanking someone for giving him the opportunity to make himself a life just speaks to his ego & delusion. What’s staying at the four seasons & meeting Charles Barkley when you literally grew up with Jay Z & proudly state that you have never & will never work a corporate job. That’s the delusion & ego of someone who has probably never actually worked a real job a day in his life & never felt the need to be thankful for anything. This ain’t feelings. They just not good people & I don’t respect them.

    • @03bbay
      @03bbay 8 місяців тому +12

      Saying someone isn’t a good person and only knowing them from a podcast is insane 😂😂🤦🏾

  • @victorakioyame1143
    @victorakioyame1143 8 місяців тому +89

    This dude Alex doesn’t seem to understand what Mal was upset about. Mal isn’t saying that the conversation didn’t take place, but he’s saying the framing Alex gave of R&M approaching you guys didn’t happen.

    • @ownthispwn
      @ownthispwn 8 місяців тому +20

      he just tryna save face. Alex looking goofy asl

    • @saucyfaces
      @saucyfaces 8 місяців тому +4

      Exactly! Like...why is this so complicated? 🤦🏽‍♀ It's so hard to admit you fucked up or mispoke?

    • @teamgarza261
      @teamgarza261 8 місяців тому +10

      He literally stated that they didn’t approach the multiple time in this pod and the Joe pod that they were just there and started talking about work nobody approached anyone…you don’t listen or what??

    • @knot3427
      @knot3427 8 місяців тому +3

      He knows he just dont wanna take accountability for it so let me slick argue something mal isnt even arguing about😅

    • @michaell872
      @michaell872 8 місяців тому +2

      ​@teamgarza261 no they literally said everyone was just chillin and waiting for Uber when rory and Mal brought it up.

  • @safjones9318
    @safjones9318 8 місяців тому +54

    Mad 🧢! Accountability is damn near extinct nowadays…. Playing the victim is at an all time high….

    • @zaydozier
      @zaydozier 8 місяців тому +4

      You do realize that you weren’t there right ? lol

    • @safjones9318
      @safjones9318 8 місяців тому

      @zaydozier oops I forgot …. Were you present?

    • @adolfocastillo6254
      @adolfocastillo6254 8 місяців тому +2

      @@zaydozier parks was and he said they were capping lol

  • @elijahbondo2315
    @elijahbondo2315 8 місяців тому +29

    SaVon should be mad at Screenman because his ball glazing started this

    • @IHOOP415
      @IHOOP415 8 місяців тому

      😂😂😂

  • @sashachibanga2412
    @sashachibanga2412 8 місяців тому +84

    Been listening to the POD since 2020 and I enjoy listening to you guys. My issue is you guys are responding to their reaction instead of what they were reacting to

    • @Olmikelaaawry
      @Olmikelaaawry 8 місяців тому +7

      Bingo

    • @EddiePReacts
      @EddiePReacts 8 місяців тому +5

      Its called deflection

    • @dstewart33rd
      @dstewart33rd 8 місяців тому

      Exactly thats what all of them are doing. Everyone thats cool with Joe try to spin shit so they can stay in good graces cause he cuts the checks

  • @sjordan1195
    @sjordan1195 8 місяців тому +109

    You wouldn’t have to be here if Alex didn’t reimagine a conversation

    • @RHYSDZA
      @RHYSDZA 8 місяців тому +6

      They wouldn’t be here if Mal wasn’t in his feelings..

    • @Classikh
      @Classikh 8 місяців тому +10

      @@RHYSDZA ...for being lied on

    • @antoineLebrane
      @antoineLebrane 8 місяців тому

      @@Classikhget off mal nutz that nigga didnt get lied on

    • @mitchy2311
      @mitchy2311 8 місяців тому

      ​@@Classikhbut he wasn't. He did indeed have a conversation with those guys about those things.... niggas playing semantics and getting in they feelings like a h0e

    • @jdvh__94
      @jdvh__94 8 місяців тому +2

      @@Classikhit’s been over 2 years he should stop crying every time the topic comes up. He’s the only one in his feelings still

  • @casherj1
    @casherj1 8 місяців тому +36

    The reason they called you liars is because of how this conversation again was handled. You said that Alex's words were taken out of context. Words were not taken out of context, Alex clearly stated "People were talking about how Rory and Mal were discussing work flow and being underpaid and overworked." So the flow of the conversation from that point carried the feeling that Rory and Mal were leading the sentiment of the meeting by feeling those things and were venting to you guys and the other people present. That narrative came off stronger because Alex kept stating "Im just an employee and I dont know whay they were saying that to me." Which again paints the picture Mal and Rory were pushing ALL 3 topics when maybe the reality is they were in agreement with workflow but the pay and overwork was Savon and other employees. The fact that you guys breezed over this reality again is exactly why it comes off like you did not want to full be transparent. I think you did a great job in the interview with Joe and offered great push back. It even seemed at the beginning of this episode that you were going to hold Alex accountable for "maybe accidentally" mispeaking. But if I had the animosity those guys have towards for what Joe did to them and you guys mischaracterized the conversation that led to it all I would be just as hot. Focusing all your attention on their reaction to your mistake was another mischaracterization and how it made you feel took away from any attempt at clearing things up and felt like you were letting your co host off.

  • @1blackone
    @1blackone 8 місяців тому +22

    41:40 They weren't disappointed in you. They are disappointed in SAVON. They don't THINK about you, Alex

    • @chelsea____
      @chelsea____ 8 місяців тому +4

      Exactly since when did anyone give af about screenman

  • @Ben-Reid
    @Ben-Reid 8 місяців тому +71

    Alex showed his true colours with this one. Damn shame. SaVon isn't completely blameless but still

  • @vinnizle
    @vinnizle 8 місяців тому +159

    Its a wrap, Parks already called them liars and said Rory and Mal had every right to be mad about what was said.

    • @SoulVernacular23
      @SoulVernacular23 8 місяців тому

      When was this

    • @teddyhart2913
      @teddyhart2913 8 місяців тому

      Wen and where did parks say this

    • @OriginalBoondocksXVIII
      @OriginalBoondocksXVIII 8 місяців тому +22

      ​@@SoulVernacular23 Today's episode of Budden's podcast.

    • @SoulVernacular23
      @SoulVernacular23 8 місяців тому +2

      @@OriginalBoondocksXVIII oh damn

    • @tcincali9642
      @tcincali9642 8 місяців тому +27

      He said it was 3 years ago and who gives a fuck. He also said Savon and Alex reimagined the story and key details were left out

  • @bigbaggs1989
    @bigbaggs1989 8 місяців тому +54

    Long story short…. They lied lol

    • @DonNaReD2269
      @DonNaReD2269 8 місяців тому +4

      WORD! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @DonNaReD2269
      @DonNaReD2269 8 місяців тому +1

      @@bigbaggs1989 😂 thank you 😊

    • @Giddywiddy
      @Giddywiddy 8 місяців тому

      Not really.

    • @EastEZ82
      @EastEZ82 8 місяців тому

      😂😂exactly

    • @215proverb
      @215proverb 8 місяців тому +2

      ​@@Giddywiddyhow not really? They literally said something that didn't happen. That's a lie, is it not?

  • @dantemoore97
    @dantemoore97 8 місяців тому +14

    I’m 6 minutes in and the conversation is already different from when Joe was there lol

  • @brooksdb36
    @brooksdb36 8 місяців тому +22

    For the record Parks said Alex lied about Mal saying something to them about him having an issue. Nothing else.

    • @SJ-tx5go
      @SJ-tx5go 8 місяців тому

      Parks is a snake. That's the least he could do since he started the whole "secret meeting " narrative. He wanted to move when it was mentioned in today's JBP episode. I don't trust Parks or Ian. Two White boys who will separate Joe from his Black friends to make sure their position and bag is secure

  • @shenellrichardson4936
    @shenellrichardson4936 8 місяців тому +38

    Im missing the accountability.

    • @BrotherNero777
      @BrotherNero777 8 місяців тому +3

      Also missing the accounting...

    • @mitchy2311
      @mitchy2311 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@BrotherNero777they aint finna sue so you might as well put that angle to bed

    • @shenellrichardson4936
      @shenellrichardson4936 8 місяців тому

      @@BrotherNero777 that too 😂 apparently so was see
      The thing is

  • @andremarable
    @andremarable 8 місяців тому +15

    Never saw Alex flustered and tap dancing like this. THIS IS WILD 😂😂😂😂😂 damnnn

  • @teychaplin
    @teychaplin 8 місяців тому +19

    You can't skew the points and then expect to avoid getting pushback! And that point being - 'they came to us complaining being overworked and underpaid'. 'I felt, why are they talking to me about it?'. R&M did not start the conversation, y'all did. The whole conversation hinged on that point that they were stirring issues. This is basic comprehension. Also, why not play Alex's soundbite?
    Rory said he didn't have much faith that you would clear it up, and HE WAS RIGHT lol. You came on here and sidestepped, sharing misleading information and played victim. Respect to all the pods. But take some responsibility.

  • @darnelldarden9429
    @darnelldarden9429 8 місяців тому +41

    I can’t believe we been listening to everyone talk about this for 3 years

    • @oladeebiazazi4538
      @oladeebiazazi4538 8 місяців тому

      Yea you’re right it’s about to be 3 years that’s crazy

    • @jenniferspencerrichards2449
      @jenniferspencerrichards2449 8 місяців тому

      Feeling are still running high

    • @kmdaye04
      @kmdaye04 8 місяців тому +1

      2 1/2

    • @Ben-Reid
      @Ben-Reid 8 місяців тому +7

      lmao thats how you know that trio of Joe/Rory/Mal was fire. Glad both sides have found their groove w a new team but those pods were classic

    • @civilenggggg
      @civilenggggg 8 місяців тому

      Nah fr, but that just shows how good the original show was. Neither of them can recreate that magic

  • @jaealxndr
    @jaealxndr 8 місяців тому +64

    this is not unfortunate.. there is a reason yall put a patreon episode on here for everyone itll be your highest viewed solo video lmaoo

    • @TaataGeo
      @TaataGeo 8 місяців тому +3

      Clicks= 💰💰💰

    • @jaealxndr
      @jaealxndr 8 місяців тому +1

      @@TaataGeo that’s my point, I don’t blame them lol

    • @BelovedBone
      @BelovedBone 8 місяців тому +1

      As they should!

    • @Kinghulio2333
      @Kinghulio2333 8 місяців тому

      Weak

    • @nogertry8381
      @nogertry8381 8 місяців тому +1

      yet rory and mal are't more talented than them facts

  • @northrndisordr9219
    @northrndisordr9219 8 місяців тому +49

    You can tell these guys learned from Joe. Everyone playing victim …. The fans would appreciate y’all a lot more if you just said , “ we should’ve phrased that differently, or I shouldn’t have said that , it was a mistake,” but you won’t . And I will say , maybe mal not as much , but Rory has always been self aware and acknowledging of his mistakes, and has apologized when he’s outta line . And no one does that in the pod world

  • @patie7367
    @patie7367 8 місяців тому +18

    Savon taps dance is crazy!! In front of Joe he used the umbrella 'production felt like...' Now he says "I". He straight up p*ssied around infront of Joe

    • @EastEZ82
      @EastEZ82 8 місяців тому

      Yup and ball glazed

  • @kingghx5t74
    @kingghx5t74 8 місяців тому +31

    I think you guys blew it. Y’all will read the comments and I’m sure it’s gonna reflect.

    • @destinee8791
      @destinee8791 8 місяців тому +1

      Facts 😂

    • @chelsea____
      @chelsea____ 8 місяців тому +1

      Don’t say blew, they’ll think someone is inviting them to genitalia 😂

    • @EastEZ82
      @EastEZ82 8 місяців тому

      🎯

    • @FleeGunnaRiich
      @FleeGunnaRiich 8 місяців тому +1

      No y’all are just R&M d riders

    • @chelsea____
      @chelsea____ 8 місяців тому

      @@FleeGunnaRiich SMD 😂

  • @truthbetold4815
    @truthbetold4815 8 місяців тому +14

    Parks knows 😂😂😂😂 Parks said yall lied 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @cwmedia2603
    @cwmedia2603 8 місяців тому +5

    Y’all took 35 min to give a bogus apology. That’s absolutely crazy.

  • @acrnm
    @acrnm 8 місяців тому +22

    @ 11:35 - I think the point is that Rory and Mal were not complaining, you presented it to Joe in that context, you both did make seem like they were salty and complaining about the workflow.

    • @OriginalBoondocksXVIII
      @OriginalBoondocksXVIII 8 місяців тому +9

      Exactly. Alex is being obtuse. Budden has managed to make a narrative stick that Rory and Mal are lazy and ungrateful and were essentially dead weight. "Bare and Minimum." So his original framing that they came to the staff with complaints of being overworked and underpaid BEHIND BUDDEN'S BACK makes them look a way.

    • @DonNaReD2269
      @DonNaReD2269 8 місяців тому +4

      @@OriginalBoondocksXVIIIthank you! You seem the be the only one who gets it! That’s why Rory and Mal had that energy on the Patreon episode. And who wouldn’t if mf’s are contributing to a false narrative about them? Smh

  • @jusjus17
    @jusjus17 8 місяців тому +21

    Damn so yall did kind of lie yall made it seem like they came to yall with grievances about work

    • @ownthispwn
      @ownthispwn 8 місяців тому +12

      Mal is right. people do anything when the camera turn on and they tryna get views. alex looking funny in the light

  • @irvingtonunitedcorporation8910
    @irvingtonunitedcorporation8910 8 місяців тому +16

    Alex @8:50: "I don't think they necessarily came to me."
    Bro, but that is what you said which created the issue. You could've easily stated now that I lied about that and I'm sorry.

  • @paulpepala6573
    @paulpepala6573 8 місяців тому +12

    This just proves that Rory and Mal were right. Savon tried…but you gentlemen just danced around for over an hour.
    @Alex, take accountability bro.
    And @Savon, hold your man accountable.

  • @untuchablemizz1
    @untuchablemizz1 8 місяців тому +69

    Damn, i came here for a response and got a dance competition... completely danced around "rory and mal came to us about being overworked and underpaid"... that single sentence creates many images of what happened and if thats not the way it went, they have every right to feel slighted.

    • @ABtheHERO
      @ABtheHERO 8 місяців тому +3

      That single sentence was never said. That’s cap. He said overworked but never underpaid.

    • @RM-xp8kj
      @RM-xp8kj 8 місяців тому

      @@ABtheHEROeven if it’s just being overworked, R&M never said that in general. They came to R&M about being overworked n underpaid, not the other way around.

    • @mitchy2311
      @mitchy2311 8 місяців тому +2

      ​@RM-xp8kj no one came to anyone. The convo took place while at parks basement. Rnm are clearly lying about that.

    • @FleeGunnaRiich
      @FleeGunnaRiich 8 місяців тому

      ⁠@@RM-xp8kjno one came to anyone. The pod ended Joe left and they all were still there at parks house and just started talking about things. You’re just saying anything.

    • @antoineLebrane
      @antoineLebrane 8 місяців тому

      bro yall niggas be meat huggin the hell out rory and mal

  • @Mukka108
    @Mukka108 8 місяців тому +18

    Alex didn't speak on nothing 😂

  • @AvonAli
    @AvonAli 8 місяців тому +216

    It would be so much easier if everyone sat in the same room and talked it out. It would be a must watch Pod. Joe, Mal, Rory, Parks, and you two.

    • @justadrum
      @justadrum 8 місяців тому +42

      Not everything is content

    • @jenniferspencerrichards2449
      @jenniferspencerrichards2449 8 місяців тому +29

      A fight would break out

    • @eb2604
      @eb2604 8 місяців тому +17

      @@justadrumunfortunately that’s not the case anymore in this Truman Show world

    • @xenobleu
      @xenobleu 8 місяців тому +28

      The Endgame of the PodWars😂

    • @booziebadazz1692
      @booziebadazz1692 8 місяців тому +15

      ⁠@@xenobleulol the endgame would have drake marissa and slaughterhouse coming out of portals, wu tang clan Stephen A his dad safaree Alex Jones 💀💀💀

  • @miked.336
    @miked.336 8 місяців тому +6

    @8:50. See now you switching it. You literally said "why is Rory and Mal talking to me about this and not Joe" when Joe was there 💀

  • @sullystpatrick
    @sullystpatrick 8 місяців тому +6

    Joe made them listenable for the time they were on his podcast and now they’re the two most boring voices with a microphone

  • @denisetrice5604
    @denisetrice5604 8 місяців тому +96

    I have watched NTK podcast for a while but this is so disheartening. Alex really started this whole thing and Savon not holding Alex accountable is sickening. I'm done with this whole gaslighting crap. Guys please di better.

    • @CapitalP177
      @CapitalP177 8 місяців тому

      You have literally stated what Rory and Mal meant. It's crazy that Savon started that he paid to get the full grasp of what was said and comprehend everything, but failed to comprehend what you just said.

    • @sashachibanga2412
      @sashachibanga2412 8 місяців тому

      Well said!

    • @antoineLebrane
      @antoineLebrane 8 місяців тому +1

      it always gotta be someone in the comments to hold rory and mals nuts smh

    • @jaypower
      @jaypower 8 місяців тому

      Couldn’t have said it better

    • @loki350
      @loki350 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@antoineLebrane I've been scrolling through, and this is the second time I've seen you talking about meat holding. You should relax

  • @Loverboy77777
    @Loverboy77777 8 місяців тому +9

    Short Summary:
    - They had an "Around the water cooler employee talk" amongst each other discussing the changes in workload.
    - Mal and Rory never said they were overworked or underpaid. They were just discussing their confusion about the change in workflow and schedule
    because Patreon was introduced so they were doing more episodes per week.
    - Savon was the one that felt overworked and underpaid like most employees do.
    - Alex was thinking why Mal and Rory were mentioning their questions/confusion to him because that was "out of his tax bracket" so to speak not because Mal and Rory came to him to vent. It was just an organic discussion.
    - Joe (and I assume Ian as well) was the only one that really knew what was going on with the change in workflow.
    - Savon and Alex felt that the disrespect from Mal was unwarranted.

  • @adolfocastillo6254
    @adolfocastillo6254 8 місяців тому +28

    Alex was that little lap dog who got happy his owner came home when Joe was on

  • @tyllerblackburn1346
    @tyllerblackburn1346 8 місяців тому +40

    Y’all coming in a little hot just to say y’all were wrong. Y’all maintain that no lies were told but as you recount and clarify what y’all meant, it isn’t matching what y’all said when joe was in front of you. Ex: the statement “being overworked was a big theme of the convo” is not the same thing as “Rory and mal came to us about the workflow and being over worked and underpaid………idk why they came to me with it I’m just a worker”. The first statement says this was the topic of a convo we were all a part of, and the other says these were concerns they bought to me. And y’all know that’s not the same thing so just say my bad and move on.

    • @antoineLebrane
      @antoineLebrane 8 місяців тому

      bro did you not hear the man play the part where he said HEEEEE was overworked what are you talkin about 😂😂😂 boy yall niggas love to d ride rory and mal

  • @rodericktutt6290
    @rodericktutt6290 8 місяців тому +4

    Oh Alex Vicious wit it😂😂😂😂

  • @Ibeenflew
    @Ibeenflew 8 місяців тому +5

    Y'all gon have to try this again.

  • @ifyouweremeforreal
    @ifyouweremeforreal 8 місяців тому +5

    Savon looks like he's disappointed in Alex lmfao!!

    • @sidnickels
      @sidnickels 8 місяців тому

      Still can’t understand why Savon didn’t tell screen man to clean that ishhhhhhh up.

  • @BigB.J
    @BigB.J 8 місяців тому +8

    They snaked Rory and Mal. Trashed Joe then caused a riff between the Host and Co-hosts'

  • @mooodybluez
    @mooodybluez 8 місяців тому +23

    Alex looks crazy lmao. Parks damn near called y’all liars “ reimagined”. Wild part about all of this is. Rory and Mal have told the exact same story every time. All other parties involved have changed their stories every single time.

    • @vfs3859
      @vfs3859 8 місяців тому +1

      Screen man 😂😂😂

  • @billy2069
    @billy2069 8 місяців тому +35

    Maturity is coming on here and saying you had a poor choice of words and this is what you meant.
    Maturity is getting on the phone and speaking to Mal about his ball glazing comment.
    The lesson is your choice of words and context matters. This is a battle of public opinion maturity is realizing your walking on a thin line and understanding you have to be sensitive to both sides.

  • @saucyfaces
    @saucyfaces 8 місяців тому +129

    This is ridiculous. Comprehension isn't the issue here. They way YOU communicated what happened, is exactly what you said. Say 'my bad' and let's keep it moving. 🤦🏽‍♀
    Yall being offended about what YALL said about them is mind boggling to me. No way you could've anticipated a different response from them.
    If last week "we werent as clear"...why would yall be shocked by the responses this week?

    • @Ace_4k
      @Ace_4k 8 місяців тому +9

      Both sides are arguing semantics. Ultimately, concerns were shared about not being compensated for specific work efforts. Overworked may not have been the proper description but Mal is trying to pretend as though he does not understand the essence behind Alex's statement.

    • @TMarieAus24
      @TMarieAus24 8 місяців тому +9

      ⁠@@Ace_4k i totally agree. Mal stated they wanted to see the accounting because he felt like money was owed to him. So to me he was underpaid from his perspective.

    • @oladeebiazazi4538
      @oladeebiazazi4538 8 місяців тому +1

      Exactly, we understood what they said the issue is that according to Rory and Mal it never happened.

    • @rafaeljones2039
      @rafaeljones2039 8 місяців тому

      How is it not?? It’s mind boggling to me that niggas looked at nigga saying y’all felt over worked as disrespectful. Rather if the doorman said it, a meeting was had and it was said. You a person that was there should be able to comprehend better what I’m saying. That statement ain’t enough for u to call me a dick rider and everything else especially when you got my number, I didn’t disrespect you and the majority of the conversation I big you up, for you to take one clip and run with it says you already didn’t like me

    • @rafaeljones2039
      @rafaeljones2039 8 місяців тому +1

      Savon looked really hurt

  • @diddy2612
    @diddy2612 8 місяців тому +6

    He wants respect to call his name but he flat out lied on them is hilarious

  • @SupremeDynastyTV
    @SupremeDynastyTV 8 місяців тому +17

    “Savon and Alex from the Need to Know Podcast FIRES back at the mixy boys” - Danny from the stop voice

  • @JerzyBoy973
    @JerzyBoy973 8 місяців тому +50

    I would’ve just made a 2 line statement in the regular pod and kept it moving. This topic doesn’t need to be fed anymore energy.

  • @mrnelz612
    @mrnelz612 8 місяців тому +137

    Good podcast guys. Salute to you all. Alex didn’t really understand that his comments triggered things. He basically made it look like it was R&M that came to him. Savon didn’t do good job to correct Alex at any point.

    • @alihamdon6644
      @alihamdon6644 8 місяців тому +2

      Yeah you can very clearly tell it wasn’t a purposeful lie like “let’s put this all on Rory & Mal” & more of a misspeak that made it sound that way

    • @jamilk1079
      @jamilk1079 8 місяців тому

      yeah the thing is you have to actually say you misspoke. don’t go around saying niggas can’t comprehend you and it was taken out of context when you just said some shit that wasn’t true. Parks been on joes side for all of this and even he said he gets why R&M were pissed bc that story was told incorrectly. they gotta take accountability rather than just acting like niggas are too dumb to understand what they said

    • @vinnizle
      @vinnizle 8 місяців тому +2

      ​@@alihamdon6644it was for sure a purposeful lie because he doubled down on it and said he thought they was crazy for bringing it to them. He just wanted to get a Joe's good side so bad he threw his morals and integrity out the window. Rewatch that whole segment. Alex was hard pushing words and sentiments that came from Rory and Mal

    • @mitchy2311
      @mitchy2311 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@vinnizleso you honestly believe rory and mal said nothing in that conversation? You think it was only the production crew venting? Use your brain... they was all kicking it speaking they mind...

    • @antoineLebrane
      @antoineLebrane 8 місяців тому

      @@vinnizle you meat huggin rory and mal

  • @chisimpson3376
    @chisimpson3376 8 місяців тому +7

    I can’t lie this was nasty work mannn…

  • @wall91nutz
    @wall91nutz 8 місяців тому +6

    Even Parks said y’all were lying lol

  • @ryanhaghtalab8935
    @ryanhaghtalab8935 8 місяців тому +5

    To be honest, they didn’t say that’s not what the conversation was about they said they didn’t start the conversation.

  • @yungotcha
    @yungotcha 8 місяців тому +12

    its not about it being salacious its about you saying something that wasn't said ALEX lol even parks said on joes pod that yall lied about stuff .. just say yalll made a mistake and continued on

  • @SupremeDynastyTV
    @SupremeDynastyTV 8 місяців тому +18

    Let’s see how Alex handles this LOL

    • @Mukka108
      @Mukka108 8 місяців тому +13

      I love Alex but dude danced around the topic😂

    • @shenellrichardson4936
      @shenellrichardson4936 8 місяців тому +5

      😂😂 not well

    • @vinnizle
      @vinnizle 8 місяців тому

      Neo from the Matrix

  • @shannonsmith7634
    @shannonsmith7634 8 місяців тому +4

    😂😂 RnM didn't say he lied about details of the meeting ... they said THEY WEREN'T THE 2 THAT SAID IT

  • @Lopez732
    @Lopez732 8 місяців тому +6

    How Savon doesn’t remember or doesn’t want to address what Alex said is crazy. You might of not said it, doesn’t mean it wasn’t said on the pod.

    • @bcsmith215
      @bcsmith215 8 місяців тому

      Didn’t he play the clip?

  • @KanyeReborn
    @KanyeReborn 8 місяців тому +6

    You lied and Parks said it too, this whole long drawn out explanation could’ve been resolved with simply “I lied, I’m sorry”

  • @robertphillips4336
    @robertphillips4336 8 місяців тому +4

    Savon mustve just learned the words "comprehension and duality" lol.

  • @ricardonieves2543
    @ricardonieves2543 8 місяців тому +6

    Man parks snitching to Joe is the catalyst for all this it doesn’t matter his intent when you fire a gun to kill someone and it hits the wrong person first you still caught 2 bodies with the intent of catching 1 if parks just stfu and rolled with the other WORKERS instead of snitching to the boss for whatever reason I think shit doesn’t turn out like this

  • @lamontellis8430
    @lamontellis8430 8 місяців тому +13

    Ahhh yal niggas went back n posted the whole shit lol. I was watching the other one and shit disappeared mid episode 😅

    • @bigbaggs1989
      @bigbaggs1989 8 місяців тому

      I thought I was tripping lol 😂

  • @HighwayRobbery
    @HighwayRobbery 8 місяців тому +11

    Yall should’ve waited till after parks responded to respond he already said they never said half the shit yall said if any of it 😂😂😂😂

  • @odu2014
    @odu2014 8 місяців тому +10

    Even Parks said on the JBP today that y’all misrepresented how that conversation went down.

  • @EastEZ82
    @EastEZ82 8 місяців тому +3

    Definitely ball glazing. Lmaooooooo I thought I was trippin but …. A fact. 😂😂😂😂truth hurts. Now let me check out that RnM pod.

  • @AliFrankTheTank
    @AliFrankTheTank 8 місяців тому +26

    “Screen man” was crazy, Parks said y’all lied though so this situation epic 😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @onetwo-dr8hl
      @onetwo-dr8hl 8 місяців тому

      Joe still signs his checks, we all know Parks is MVP ball glazer so that’s not saying much

    • @nia4842
      @nia4842 8 місяців тому

      ​@onetwo-dr8hl Parks could've said they were right, and even he said they reimagined the story and he understands why Rory and Mal are upset.

  • @NineEight_Nine
    @NineEight_Nine 8 місяців тому +10

    yaahhhhhhh rory and mal tellin the troof 😂

  • @deewoodz2828
    @deewoodz2828 8 місяців тому +5

    Alex isn’t understanding that he made it seem like THEY (R&M) said that they were overworked and underpaid. The theme of the meeting can be being overworked/underpaid but it doesn’t mean that THEY (R&M) were the ppl to say it.
    SaVon is right that two things can be true. There was a convo but they didn’t say what you said that they said. It’s very simple.

  • @ownthispwn
    @ownthispwn 8 місяців тому +5

    21:06 alex lying like hell lmao..ur a podcaster... who as a podcaster doesnt want to go viral and get engagement/views/subscriptions? Dude just hop on the mic and start saying shit. They shouldve left it at the interview w/ Joe because they looking worse with this.

  • @khirycollins1335
    @khirycollins1335 8 місяців тому +6

    Parks said y’all lied and it’s crazy y’all made this knowing y’all lied is nuts. Savon really trying to be Joe and spin shit is wild

  • @e.m.9497
    @e.m.9497 8 місяців тому +5

    That walk back😂😂

  • @King_Mac80
    @King_Mac80 8 місяців тому +6

    Fact that both of y'all screwed up so bad that even Parks whose president of Joe Budden fan club had to say y'all lied is CRAZY. Also don't title it as "Misplaced energy" when y'all the reason for this latest round of discourse.

  • @brockontop
    @brockontop 8 місяців тому +6

    Just apologize Screenman!

  • @kmdaye04
    @kmdaye04 8 місяців тому +7

    Y’all wasted an hour not taking accountability …. You guys are good dudes but this is nasty.

  • @sirbronson252
    @sirbronson252 8 місяців тому +4

    Heres the real question parks agreed that savon and alex lied. Are they going to respond to parks?

  • @lulureally
    @lulureally 8 місяців тому +3

    The ball guzzling from these two is wild

  • @demetriusmcneill5262
    @demetriusmcneill5262 8 місяців тому

    “It’s not gonna be salacious or headliney” *exits video. Tf you think I came for lmaooo

  • @ayabongadayile2234
    @ayabongadayile2234 8 місяців тому +6

    So y'all just proved to anyone with common sense that you guys lied and twisted the events of that "secret meeting" because you were afraid of being honest with Joe about how y'all really felt.
    This just brings me back to when Mal just stared at the camera and said "Parks" repeatedly, seems like Parks really knows.

  • @lifestylemood
    @lifestylemood 8 місяців тому +4

    25:17 Mals gripe which he said several times .. He has NEVER went to anyone & said he felt overworked & underpaid.
    YOU Alex .. Had said both bare & minimum went to YALL to complain .
    Lying on recorded podcasts is absolutely nasty work

  • @Izzyduzitt
    @Izzyduzitt 8 місяців тому +20

    Let’s not do this fellas. Instead of running with this narrative, Alex could have retracted and apologized for putting the overworked/underpaid on R&M’s jackets. It’s really that simple. They went on record the last JBP podcast they ever did that they never felt that way. Let’s do a better job next time. Hopefully we can still see a WYNTK/R&M crossover sometime in the future when tensions have died down

  • @georgebrobbey6882
    @georgebrobbey6882 8 місяців тому +23

    The response here is definitely lacking accountability and being very obtuse at the same time. Savon and Alex definitely lied and didn’t tell the story in its entirety. Parks even called it out. Parks said it on the JBP (episode 673 - ‘55m:32sec’ mark) for anyone who wants to catch it. Y’all ain’t slick. Alex is trying to be VERY slick.
    PARKS: “Joe went up there with Savon and mistold the story. I understand the other gentlemen’s (Rory and Mal) reason for frustration with that…I was ALSO UPSET ON HOW THIS WAS REITERATED, RETOLD. They left out some key details…. They (R&M) have a right to be mad at that”.

  • @KNOWLEDGEISAWEAPON
    @KNOWLEDGEISAWEAPON 8 місяців тому +3

    wonder how they'll respond now that PARKS said they also misrepresented what happened

  • @ScrillaTMU
    @ScrillaTMU 8 місяців тому +11

    Savon-I don’t like being called a lie
    Screen man- Me too.
    🥴🥴🥴🥴

  • @guyfisher9833
    @guyfisher9833 8 місяців тому +9

    Holding Savon responsible for Alex’s actions is the same as holding RnM responsible for correcting Joe all the time they sat next to him.
    There’s plenty of times Joe went off and they didn’t correct him. You got a problem with what Alex said deal with Alex. Mal literally accuses Joe of stealing all the time it seems Rory is not aligned as he always keeps quiet does anyone force Rory to intervene, grown men wanting everyone to share their views and treat them like victims.

    • @elijahlynch8407
      @elijahlynch8407 8 місяців тому

      Na he was nodding his head that’s agreeing

    • @averyb.476
      @averyb.476 8 місяців тому

      Alex need to be held accountable >>>> than Savon

    • @ramonhope6892
      @ramonhope6892 8 місяців тому

      Thank you

  • @itslxrdxra
    @itslxrdxra 8 місяців тому

    I’m speaking this in existence. Ima pull up and we doing a mil!!! Much love y’all don’t stress bout this bs.

  • @teeb2849
    @teeb2849 8 місяців тому +9

    Yea Alexis definitely made that narrative sound crazy. Like Mal and Rory were at the meeting teary eyed and upset 😂😂😂😂

  • @cboys4eva
    @cboys4eva 8 місяців тому +20

    It seems like where things went left is that the narrative in the streets is that Rory & Mak LED the charge on the "overworked and underpaid" angle when it seems like all of y'all were just talking about it that day. Joe has said, it's some things he could of done better and I think this is one of them. None of y'all knew what the plan was ,especially with the extra Patreon shows added to the mix. Then it just blew up from there. The vibe changed, R & M wanna see accounting, words back and forth etc. I hope y'all stay cool, I listen to all three pods and success to all you dudes

    • @domino8995
      @domino8995 8 місяців тому +4

      And from watching the whole episode I don’t understand how anyone can take it out of context. It seems like being overworked and underpaid was a speaking point in the whole conversation. I don’t think Alex went into the interview saying “ima make a narrative about Rory and Mal”. The episode didn’t have any of that energy whatsoever

    • @cboys4eva
      @cboys4eva 8 місяців тому +1

      @@domino8995 Mal is really hot at Joe, you can tell. Savon n Alex caught some shots unfortunately

    • @vinnizle
      @vinnizle 8 місяців тому +2

      ​@@domino8995That was 100% Alex's energy. He even doubled down and was saying how crazy he thought they were and asking why they were coming to him with that. Parks even said they were lying and Rory and Mal had all rights to br mad at the way it was spun

    • @jessicadean5654
      @jessicadean5654 8 місяців тому

      @@vinnizlechanging narratives, Parks did not say they were lying. He said THE APPROACH DIDNT TAKE PLACE.

    • @nia4842
      @nia4842 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@jessicadean5654 Obtuse. If they're saying the approach did happen and Parks is saying that didn't happen...

  • @dennismiller534
    @dennismiller534 8 місяців тому +2

    I would have thought they would take this down especially after Parks said they were lying

  • @dsario174
    @dsario174 8 місяців тому +1

    A response to a response, to an interview , that is the result of back and forth between two pods. Which was set off by a response, to the initial pod that set the table for this. What a time to be alive. Pod wars are crazzzzy

  • @raisondetra5652
    @raisondetra5652 8 місяців тому +14

    The silver lining in all of this back and forth is The Need To Know podcast has officially entered the pod wars. Being a participant in the pod war universe is good for business

    • @edworeyes
      @edworeyes 8 місяців тому +5

      Which is corny.

    • @raisondetra5652
      @raisondetra5652 8 місяців тому

      @@edworeyes To you.

    • @vonsgone
      @vonsgone 8 місяців тому

      @@raisondetra5652in general it is. Especially when you get in based on a lie

  • @natturner534
    @natturner534 8 місяців тому +6

    🤣🤣 Alex dancing his ass off

    • @RockMikey
      @RockMikey 8 місяців тому +1

      Bruh!!! Footloose!! 😂😂😂

  • @nateaustin8410
    @nateaustin8410 8 місяців тому +3

    Men that will talk an hour around accountability is cringy af!

  • @ihunnydipsz
    @ihunnydipsz 8 місяців тому +6

    It’s getting spicy for Joe Budden, JBP members, former members, and affiliates. I love all y’all though and thanks for the content lol.

  • @aamirstrother1401
    @aamirstrother1401 8 місяців тому +6

    Im 20 mins in on this video and they have yet to address who brought up the convo, and Alex took back his words without an apology. I fw you guys, but this was a brick