As a visual learner, I would love to see a video focused specifically how to measure for a contoured cinch. If I'm spending this much money on a piece of tack, I want to be sure it fits correctly, not just throw the dice lol. Thank you!
Good job Justin, so relieved to see you address the relationship between girth shape and anatomy in this video, The best choice will be correct for each individual horse, and all horses are different! What works well for one, can be wrong and extremely uncomfortable for the next. Utilize the options available, it's not necessary for horse or Rider to fight your tack. Your billets should travel straight down into the buckles, not at an angle forward or back. ..
I have seen quite a few contoured girths "gap" at the front of the sternum area. Lots of pressure behind that area, aligning more or less with the buckles, but zero pressure at the front edge of the girth. Obviously, not doing a good job of spreading pressure. I would like to see a video showing how your girth avoids this problem, and even better, something showing that the pressure is indeed even from the front to the back edge of the girth where it goes around the middle under the horse.
I can't use these style girths on my gaited horses, they get severe rubs in the wrinkles because it sweeps forward. My guys have a girth groove that sets back further. From the armpit.
Hey, so I’m interested in getting this cinch, how do I determine the size I need? Is there a video for learning how to fit my horse? Checked out the website but didn’t see one.
How do you know which billet hole is the best fit? To just measure with a measuring tape would be no different than a straight girth, and per this video, the length of a contoured girth is more finicky @@desertrose2085
Great point. The most important element of fit is where the buckles sit relative to the elbows - we want the buckles above the elbows. In most cases this means about 6 inches from the end of a dressage flap to the top of the girth. For a jump saddle the space will be slightly larger. The easiest place to start is to use an existing girth for a reference point, then or accordingly.
Don't need to watch this one. I did a video on them myself. Simple physics says they not only don't work, but are actually worse than a regular cinch. Seriously, they apply more pressure on a narrower area. Unless you could make them out of some kind of rigid material, they is very little pressure on that contoured part. If they actually worked I would have bought one in a flash for one weird shaped horse I had. I'll stick to a nice wide roper cinch made of mohair so it doesn't make the horse sweat the minute you put it on.
This! I tried one and it gapped along the front edge of the girth putting all the pressure on about a 1-2" strip along the back edge. There are several videos out there by top saddle fitters with science to back up the fact that these girths don't work as promised. They look good, but physics, pressure maps and sweat marks don't back up the theory.
@4:20 .....the length of a straight girth matters though??? The pressure points should not be on the large veins or muscles that are right there. The statements that you can "use whatever length you want" and it's "basically a belt" are wrong?!
Great point. Even with a straight girth it should not be at the extremes of too long or too short, but there is way more "wiggle room". And to address the vein near the elbow, known as the external abdominal vein, the girth should/will cover that even if it is not sized well. There's some old/poor info on that vein from a number of years ago written online that has caused confusion. The vein sits so low that every girth will go over it, so we just want to be sure there is good padding/pressure distribution there to make it as comfortable as possible.
As a visual learner, I would love to see a video focused specifically how to measure for a contoured cinch. If I'm spending this much money on a piece of tack, I want to be sure it fits correctly, not just throw the dice lol. Thank you!
Good point! We will get a video like that in the queue.
Good job Justin, so relieved to see you address the relationship between girth shape and anatomy in this video, The best choice will be correct for each individual horse, and all horses are different! What works well for one, can be wrong and extremely uncomfortable for the next. Utilize the options available, it's not necessary for horse or Rider to fight your tack. Your billets should travel straight down into the buckles, not at an angle forward or back. ..
Thank you. Your video is very high quality.
Thank you!
I have seen quite a few contoured girths "gap" at the front of the sternum area. Lots of pressure behind that area, aligning more or less with the buckles, but zero pressure at the front edge of the girth. Obviously, not doing a good job of spreading pressure. I would like to see a video showing how your girth avoids this problem, and even better, something showing that the pressure is indeed even from the front to the back edge of the girth where it goes around the middle under the horse.
This!! ⬆️
Fabulous video! Love the educational aspects of them!
This really was helpful and made a lot of sense! I just bought an anatomical girth for my horse from a friend! ❤️ I think it really helps!!
This is a very well done video. Great info well presented.
Thank 😊
Very helpful - thanks.
Thank you. :)
I can't use these style girths on my gaited horses, they get severe rubs in the wrinkles because it sweeps forward. My guys have a girth groove that sets back further. From the armpit.
Helpful tips. Anything you can add for endurance treeless saddles & gaited horse? Really enjoyed the video. Good info.
As for girth fit/size, it ought to be about the same 😊
Hey, so I’m interested in getting this cinch, how do I determine the size I need? Is there a video for learning how to fit my horse? Checked out the website but didn’t see one.
Put your saddle and saddle pad on the horse. Use a soft tape to measure the girth length you’ll need.
@@desertrose2085 thank you
How do you know which billet hole is the best fit? To just measure with a measuring tape would be no different than a straight girth, and per this video, the length of a contoured girth is more finicky @@desertrose2085
How do you measure for this contour girth?
You really need to address how to measure one's horse for a proper fit.....
Great point. The most important element of fit is where the buckles sit relative to the elbows - we want the buckles above the elbows.
In most cases this means about 6 inches from the end of a dressage flap to the top of the girth. For a jump saddle the space will be slightly larger. The easiest place to start is to use an existing girth for a reference point, then or accordingly.
Don't need to watch this one. I did a video on them myself. Simple physics says they not only don't work, but are actually worse than a regular cinch. Seriously, they apply more pressure on a narrower area. Unless you could make them out of some kind of rigid material, they is very little pressure on that contoured part. If they actually worked I would have bought one in a flash for one weird shaped horse I had. I'll stick to a nice wide roper cinch made of mohair so it doesn't make the horse sweat the minute you put it on.
This! I tried one and it gapped along the front edge of the girth putting all the pressure on about a 1-2" strip along the back edge. There are several videos out there by top saddle fitters with science to back up the fact that these girths don't work as promised. They look good, but physics, pressure maps and sweat marks don't back up the theory.
@4:20 .....the length of a straight girth matters though??? The pressure points should not be on the large veins or muscles that are right there. The statements that you can "use whatever length you want" and it's "basically a belt" are wrong?!
Great point. Even with a straight girth it should not be at the extremes of too long or too short, but there is way more "wiggle room". And to address the vein near the elbow, known as the external abdominal vein, the girth should/will cover that even if it is not sized well. There's some old/poor info on that vein from a number of years ago written online that has caused confusion. The vein sits so low that every girth will go over it, so we just want to be sure there is good padding/pressure distribution there to make it as comfortable as possible.