i3 12100F Vs i7 2600 - Budget 12th Gen Vs High-End 2nd Gen
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
- How does a decade old high-end quad core processor compare to a modern budget CPU with the same core count? Today we're going to find out. The I7 2600 was one of the best Intel chips money could buy over a decade ago, so how does it hold up to Intel's latest budget king?
Thanks for watching :)
The i7-2600K came into my life in 2011 and didn't leave until a few months ago, in early 2022. A glorious little CPU that handled pretty much anything I threw at it for a decade. Before Sandy Bridge, I had been getting new CPUs every three or so years but the 2600K never let anything get it down. A powerhouse and a legend.
Mine's still rocking! Have it OC'd to 4.3GHz and paired with a 1080 Ti. I don't have the heart to tear down this build. So it'll be a whole new build when the day comes that I need more firepower.
@@Visstnok Respect! I actually bought an old 2011 m-itx mobo last year to try and continue using my 2600K in a small form factor build. It was a H61 board though, and quite a downgrade from my full-size Z board. I ended up getting a full upgrade, partly so I could finally use NVMe drives and other modern good-to-haves.
@@Visstnok same but 1080 not ti, just oc. i played most games 4k@60fps almost all high, but i got none of this list just red dead cant play 4k@60, with all drivers was working but unstable, with updated drivers just 1080p.
@@Visstnok does it work with games smoothly?
@@yvng4697 I'd say it holds up surprisingly well. Although that shouldn't tell you much, since gamers have such different standards and needs. I'm getting very good at Apex, and the hardware is starting to be my biggest limit. Even if 80 fps is as low as it goes, and 144 is the norm.
The framerates are acceptable, but those frame times are really rough in newer games.
Yeah that’s the downside of the older cores. That’s why averages don’t paint the entire picture
Yeah because only care about numbers. You can have high frame rate and alot of stutters. with an old cpu like that you're gonna get alot of stutters
@@Ladioz Depends. The quad-cores are going to stutter a fair bit these days, but if you look at X79 and the overclockable 6/8-core Xeons, you can still get an extremely smooth gaming experience with CPUs of that vintage. At 1440p+ you're unlikely to even notice the difference versus the latest CPUs in all but the most CPU-bound of games.
@@CaptainKenway its not quad cores look at the 12100s lows they are much higher and only below 60 in Elden Ring and Cyberpunk, two known unoptimized turds. 2600 is poor because of lack of IPC and smaller L1 L2 L3 cache. Games are still mostly single thread dependent there is no point in buying more than a 12100 for gaming unless you are targeting 240hz or streaming or just want the ego boost of owning something expensive. And no the Sandy Xeons are not much better, only in a few very heavy open world titles do they have any noticeable advantage, while the higher-overclocking 2600K wins in most, and the Xeons are thirsty beasts when you turn them up, and take very overpriced motherboards. If you go that route you are better buying a complete Haswell or Broadwell era 6c/12t workstation and give up overclocking for better out of the box IPC and less power use and initial cost, imho.
@@CaptainKenway exactly my 6c/12t 980 X still runs strong I dont think ive ever experienced a stutter with that cpu
I can't wait for 2032 so I can buy a 12900KS for 30 bucks
Lol
Damn! We've come a long way but that little old i7 still has life in it, Sandy bridge was something else :)
Also, if we ever get into a fight in elden ring it'd probably be the longest fight ever, with both of us hitting the air more often than not. Lol
Great video as usual!
love ur vids
@zWORMz Gaming can you make video about GTX 650 TI with AMD phenom X3 8450?
Whats up Kryzzp!! Youre awesome love your videos!
You have to lock on the enemy🤣
very true, my old work laptop's i3 2330m can get some decent f4ramerates is some light games like geometry dash, terraria and minecraft (with optifine)
I've built 4 i7 2600 builds this year. 2 for my nephews with 1060 6gb and 2 for their friends with 970's All 4 with 16gb ram and they're all humming along perfectly. A few games they have to play with medium presets but they're happy as with 1080p for less than $400usd for each system.
Nice. Thats what its about at the end of the day isnt it? Making people happy. A lot of people dont care what hardware they have as long as it does the job.
Exactly, average gamer don't care if they get 60fps or 400fps as long as they don't feel the difference@@kevincampbell989
I'm seeing the 10100 for ~$80 USD new. I picked one up, threw it into a cheapo H510 mobo, and paired with a GTX 970. Was really amazing to see how well a bottom barrel priced modern CPU was able to do. I think a super budget build, with all new-in-box parts, might finally be doable again. With decent upgradability as prices continue to come down.
LOL
I bought an acer 885 prebuilt for $365 a couple years ago with the 10100. It only has a 300W power supply but I saw a guy put a 1660 Super in it with a molex 8 pin adapter. The 10100 gives the same performance as an i7 of only a few years ago. It's power efficient too. Acer uses crap paste which cracks and stock intel cooler and the airflow isn't the best so I installed an Arctic Freezer 11 LP and the cooler fan runs for 30 seconds and stops for over a minute just surfing the web. It's silent overkill cooling for $20.
Im still using a 3rd gen i7-3770 (4c/8t), 16gb ram, GTX 1070 and Sata SSD. Still holds up very well in all modern games at 1080p medium. Before that was using a 2nd gen i5-2500 (4c/4t) and could definitely tell the increased performance after installing the i7-3770.
I'm still running a 3570k with 8GB RAM and a 1070 and games have been bringing this poor rig to its knees for years. Earliest I can think of is Battlefield 1 where I can almost never get higher than 40 FPS on lowest possible settings 1080p and am frequently in the 20s, but plenty of others since then (Division 2 comes to mind) are just painfully rough on my hardware. I don't know if it's the RAM only being 8 instead of 16 or what but I've been unhappy with my hardware for quite awhile now.
@@naughtmeinam4603 Overclock that bitch to 4.3-4.5 and you’ll get some relief.
@@naughtmeinam4603 definitely your 8gbs of ram. If your trying to save a bit of money and get more out of your system buying a cheap 3770 or 3770k would definitely be worth it to maximize your system. But your i5 and 8gbs of ram are both not helping that 1070 stretch it’s legs
What motherboard are you using?
Same here, though I gave that mobo/cpu/ram to my son not long ago. The bios it has run's it at 3.9 almost constantly and while not a speed demon it's for it's age a very well handling cpu. Definitly a step above the 2600.
I’m holding onto my 2600 & 970 combo until prices dramatically drop. Still plays my favorite games just fine.
The 12100f as well as the 10100f (should) have destroyed the 2nd hand market. These old i7's (even Skylake) should sell for pennies nowdays but somehow, they don't.
Still don't get how 6th and 7th gen Intel haven't gotten super cheap
Those i3's wipe the floor with skylake/kaby lake i7's, yet I still often see them going for way more than the i3's.
Motherboards for 12th gen are quite expensive. But I agree - second hand market is not adequate, old processors are not worth it.
I've been wanting a video like this. I'm still using a i7-2600k and have been thinking about upgrading finally.
Still rocking the 2600, upgraded from a Q6600 about 3 years ago, hasn't been limiting me all that much, although I'm starting to consider an upgrade to a new i3 for the single core performance uplift, helps a ton in gaming. The RAM and motherboard purchase is a bit of a paywall for me right now (uni student, cant afford pasta).
The i3-10300 or above chips are pretty solid. Spent an extra $30 and got a i5-10400
This is the same dilemma I have. I badly want to upgrade to a new platform, that would mean replacing my motherboard and RAM also.
Spend a little more for something higher end, you'll save more in the end by not having to upgrade as often.
@@SuzukiRider93 Yes that's true, but I'm thinking of a quick remedy first to just satisfy my needs as of now. Then I'll save up to build a new system, that way it is now mine and a personal one.
As much as I want to spend more, I don't have the budget for it lol
@@thealphauser13 I was originally replying to OP but in your case you should look at the total cost of a quick upgrade followed by another upgrade to higher end. you might find its worth it to just keep using what you have while you save for the higher end build, you'll get there sooner without having to eat the cost of the first upgrade.
Dell XPS 8300 baby! Still rocking the 2600 and gt610 today!
Great vid, I just replaced my 2500k with a 12100f and I'm blown away by the performance of such a cheap unit
Yeah great value, though the 2500k is a legend
The I7-2700k was a great chip, i had mine from 2012 till 2020 worked great in VR and good frame rates even with a 2080ti
The 2700K was especially good since every single one of them can run just fine at 5GHz on a relevant mbd such as the ASUS M4E, indeed oc'ing them was if anything too easy for those who enjoy the oc challenge. Didn't produce excessive heat or temps either, back then the older process node meant a lower density on the die, so an old TRUE with one fan works fine. I built seven such systems.
@@mapesdhs597 at what voltage tho? I had 3 2600k and they did from 4.5 to 4.7ght at around 1.41V
1.5v for 5ghz@@tvrtkocro28
It's really good to see cpus comparison, Happy Sunday to everyone and to you as well:)
Happy sunday to you
@@nil0ww598Thanks
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@@RandomGaminginHDThank you:)
My son has been using an i7 2600k with a GTX 970 for several years now. I just purchased him an i5 12400 with an RX 6600 XT. I can't wait to run the benchmarks comparing the 2. The i7 2600k will be going into a small portable gaming pc.
Awesome upgrade, glad to hear you’ve still got a use for the i7
The fact the i3 seems to be a perfect match for the 2080 super is crazy.
not quite
If you stick to linear gameplay. For open world a big no no
It's not crazy at all, it's been the case since I can remember that even relatively budget CPUs could handle even the most powerful GPUs.
It's caused be games' inability to use more than 8 threads. 12100F is best suited for 2022 games because of that. Perhaps games of 2025 will use 16 threads (as much as the new consoles), so that 12100F will become like 2600 today.
@@Piterixos So you don't remember far back enough. In the 90s you needed good CPUs for new games, old CPUs couldn't handle new games at all.
Love your reviews of old parts, can't wait for more videos about old GPUs, those are my favourites
i recommend zWormz gaming for that
Honestly, the introduction of AVX type instruction sets on the older i7s is what keeps them so fresh. I dare say that a 4770 with AVX2 would really surprise you in modern titles compared to the 2nd/3rd gen chips, plus PCIE 3.0 support
The 3rd gen chips are first generation which support the pcie 3.0. But I agree with You.
Still use a Xeon E3 1270 ( i7 2600 without igpu). These i3s have such a big IPC advantage,If i was playing newer games/ cpu intensive ones would definately upgrade.
Great video, I actually had a gaming rig built with a i7-2600 back in 2011 and duel 550rtx graphics cards, being the tight sod I am I only upgraded the rig once when I got a 1060 about five years ago and until last year I was still using the same rig and only Cyberpunk proved to be a real problem, games like Doom Eternal and Days Gone ran really well. I plan on building a new rig this year and in preparation I got a 3060 last year and figured why not use it in my current ring until I build a new one, I know the problems that come with that pairing and that GPU's are more important but it still works well, Watch Dogs Legions and Dying Light 2 for example run very well indeed, I'm still amazed by how good that CPU is.
i got the 1060 3gb and 16gb of ram with my i7 2600. zero complaints on Cyberpunk
Hello UA-cam!
I'm still using my i7-4770k and GTX1060 6G in 2022, played every triple A title of the last decade and had absolutly no issues. (Some games in 1440p and others on 1080p with a reasonable performance to visuals balance).
If anybody get his hand on older Hardware that is cheap, don't hesitate, otherwise try to get the newest hardware if you find a good deal.
Thank you RG-HD for showing us what's possible with older hardware, i've been your SUB since you had 5k subs :) love your VIDS
It's crazy to see how big of an IPC improvement there is between those chips. Great video
Not that big since there's 10 generation in between
Yes there is a ipc gain from the newer cpu but the performance diifference has more to do with cpu clock speeds and memory bandwidth more than anything. I still have a i7 2600k@5.1Ghz and 2200Mhz memory speed and any of the numbers he got here for the i7 mine pretty much doubles the fps for what he got here example Elden Ring is always constant 60 FPS or Forza 5 always over 100 FPS or Cyberpunk always a smooth fps even in the city except when the HDD reads for new areas get slight jitters when driving sometimes.
Its nice to see the old cpus compared to newer ones but the video is only showing an non overclockable cpu here and it is not showing what an older cpu like this can really do when its tuned right if you are lucky enough to spent the extra few bucks to get a K sku cpu way back when. I am replacing this old cpu though all I have left to buy for parts is the new cpu on my next payday and i can retire this cpu into a secondary build as a backup system.
@@Rocky-bz8wr what's the voltage tho 😵
@@tvrtkocro28 I retired the i7 2600K@5.1Ghz 1.47v for a AMD Ryzen 9 5900x setup. The i7 I had ran at 5.1Ghz 1.47 from 2011 to 2022.
I ended up giving it to a buddy because he had a i5 2500K which was only clocked at 4.2ghz. I set it up in his system and ran it at an easy 4.9Ghz 1.37v for this CPU. He was happy because his games he played actually ran smoothly because of the extra Mhz and extra threads.
I recently updated my i5 3570k with a i7 3770 basically gotten for free. I OC it to 4.3 GHz and I can run anything now. I paired it with a gtx 1650 super bought a couple of monhts before the GPU crysis, and I got it for 170€.
Sorry for the flex but I am very happy with my rig rn given the time we are living
Awesome video! Would love to see a comparo like this with an overclocked chip from this generation.
I’m still using an overclocked 2600k! I’ve upgraded from a stock cooler last year and it runs very well at 4.3ghz. Paired with a t400 4gb it runs forza horizon, flight simulator and valorant very well
Got one stable on 4.5ghz back in the days! :D such a nostalgia video this is!
@@DoubleUtfM8 I ran a 2600k oc'd to 4.9ghz for over 10 years. Great chip
Same bro!! Running my I7 2600k at 4.1ghz
I've got a non-K i7-2600 @4220mhz on Asrock Z77 Pro3 paired with a RX580. It's still more than enough to browse the net, watch streaming etc.
2600, could only overclock by 12%. Does your board have PCI-E x3? Mine is X2 but the gtx1650 is backwards compatible so runs most games mostly on medium settings.
I'm still using i7 2600. But it lacks some performance. Instead of buying a whole new system, you can simply go for a Z77 chipset motherboard and do some changes in clocks, helps a lot. This beast is capable of doing well over 4.3GHz even without the "K" version but that performance boost you'll get is huge. CSGO without OC is like in this video but with overclock is 250 or even better. Still capable processor for these days. Love it!
It is still very capable and powerful processor
This was the exact type of comparison I've been wanting to see, since I previously owned a 2600k and it was still holding its own quite well even into mid-2020. Though I guess being able to hit 4.5Ghz (on a cheap air cooler to boot) helps the K-variant a bit more than its frequency-bound counterpart. It feels like Alder Lake rejuvenated Intel much like Sandy Bridge did during its time. Both architectures were big milestones while also coincidentally being 10 generations apart.
I'd also like to see how a i3-10100 compares as well, as it was the first quad-core i3 to have HT.
I use the i3 10100f with the rx 6500 xt on manjaro linux and the experience is very solid with an ssd. It was impressive that the i7 could even keep up without massive stutters.
You're probably PCIe lane bottlenecked by the GPU if anything 😶
That's a bad GPU to pair with older CPUs since you're still paying for performance you don't get.
Although i don't use an i7 2600 , i recently built an i7 2600-system for a friend of mine :
i7 2600 / 16 GB DDR3 1333MHz / GTX780 3GB
He says that he is very happy with its performance , and from what i've seen in this video the i7 2600 can hold for few yeas more...
Thank you for this video , not so many people test the i7 2600 nowadays...
I got two desktop PCs in my household. One runs the stock i7-2600, the other K-variant.
Paired with the already aging and modest GTX 1050ti and GTX 1060 6gb, neither one of these systems have had real trouble running ANY game we've thrown at 'em so far. If anything, I suspect the Windows 7 OS to be the first major bottleneck in the near future, now that even Win10 is facing the end of its life.
I absolutely expected the i3 to be better but I am more impressed with how well the 12th gen i3 handled RTX 2080 super. It was never maxed out in any of the games which really surprised me.
Nice video, I've been looking at this i3 12100f cpu and would love to see more videos of that
I recently bought an i7 2600 to upgrade my trusty, but quite obsolecent sandy Bridge pc just waiting for it to arrive, safe to say that this video came out at a great time.
Those 2nd and 3rd gen i7's really were excellent back in the day. Nice to see there's still some life in them!
Great to see , that new i3 wipes the floor with the old i7.
Sometimes i wonder, why those i7 are sometimes still expensive in second hand. :')
It's like Apple tech. People threw big money into this, they want some of them back.
Yep here the price of an i7 4770 is about the same as i3 12100 and the old motherboards have ridiculous price tags.
Because people who already have a built system can slot in the fastest cpu
Usually it's specifically the strongest CPU released for a given socket that will be the most expensive since people would rather not swap their motherboards. It's still not worth it though IMO especially with how impressive new CPUs from AMD and Intel are.
Because they just want to scam people who did not have the knowledge. For someone who didnt know much about CPUs a i7 sounds better than a i3.
The i7 2600 was my first CPU! I had a Dell Optiplex 990 upgraded to 16gb 1333MHz and a GTX 1050 Ti 4GB
Solid video! Interesting to see the difference between the two. My i5 6600k and I appreciate your appreciation for older hardware.
still running mi 2600k at 4.8Ghz, really happy with it
I need i5 comparisons from 7-10 years ago to today. This was great.
I had this in 2011, it was a beast. Nowadays it struggles to keep up, as you can see, but still usable.
60 , 70 fps is still pretty decent our eyes are really capable to wee difference between 60 and 150?
I'm still rocking a 2700k water-cooled and overclocked to 4.5ghz. It'd be interesting to see a video with a 2600k/2700k at 4.5ghz vs the i3. I definitely notice a pretty big performance difference if I disable my overclock so I wonder how close it would get.
a stock 5600x would beat the crap out of it and consume 3 times less power, xD
@@thepirate4095 yeah no shit?
also way to compare a 6 core to a 4 core, dingus
even at 5 ghz with 2133mhz ram it would still lose
Thank you for this video! Still rocking a I7 3770K! 🤘
I'm still rocking a i7 3770k clocked at 4.4ghz. I do wonder what sort of performance improvement I would see with an upgrade but I'm still happy with what I have for now.
Still a great CPU. No need for update
You sir are correct. I bought an i7 2600 in 2011 and used it until late 2021 playing all of the latest games without any problem. Upgraded the GPU twice since 2011 but never found a reason to need a CPU upgrade.
the i3 12100F is a beast, I'm willing to bet it's gonna last till the end of this console generation
It could be the next Core 2 Duo
Would be nice to see this kind of test with 2600K overclocked to the max. Those things could reach over 20% higher clocks. Sandy Bridge was the last series from Intel to have soldered heat spreader in consumer level CPUs for a long time. Because of this 2600K, 3770K and 4770K have almost identical performance after they have been overclocked.
I use my old i7 2600k overclocked to 4.4 for the kids PC with a RX480 and does them well for the games they like to play
The 2600 was good at the time, though most people back then opted for the 2600K
With the K variant, you could overclock it rather well, in some cases up to 4.7-4.8 GHz
o meu ta rodando a mais de 5Ghz, sem a versão "K". Esse processador é doido kkkkkk
These kind of video are priceless for us that can have newest and fastest! I just build light gaming pc for a friend that had 3770k and 1060 6gb and it can hit that 60fps on his 60hz monitor.
I'd love to see a similar processor against something like a 6700K, another great video
Absolutely, or a 8600
That would be pretty boring, we all know Skylake IPC, Intel did refreshes for 5 years of Skylake.
I have an i7 2600 (Non K) in my main tower and its a very good cpu but unfortinantly its starting to show its age. I replaced the theremal paste which helped a little but its still showing its age. It was truley an underrated CPU. Sandy bridge was a great generation.
Interesting comparison, would be nice to see an overclocked 4th gen thrown into the mix along with an early ryzen to see where they fall between the 2 tested today.
Good video, but could you compare a core i7 4770/4790 vs i3 12100? regards!
Great video mate as usual. As long as cpu (with lower tier used gpu) can play fortnite, apex, minecraft, roblox, gta v, valorant etc then this will satisfy a lot (if not the majority) of younger gamers using their starter system. I have a i7 2600 on order and will do just that soon. Not everyone has cash to spend on high tech at the mo so these videos are ideal.
Around this time, I went with the i5-2500k and a Sapphire reference Radeon HD 7970 3GB. I also had some HyperX Blue 8GB 1600 MHz RAM, which was O.K. Throw in the Noctua NH-D14, and I was able to scale that baby all the way up to 4.5 GHz, rock solid, for about 5 years straight until I sold the PC. And that reference 7970 lived HAPPILY at 1200 MHz + for all those years, too. Not quiet, but never went over 79/80 degrees.
For those of you still reading, here are the rest of the specs I had:
- NZXT Switch 810 (in white) - later upgraded to Corsair Carbide 400C, since I was absolutely in love with it.
- OCZ ZX 850 80+ Gold
- ASUS P8Z68-V Pro/Gen3
- First had a WD VelociRaptor 10,000 RPM hard drive, then upgraded to a PNY XLR8 250GB Sata 3 SSD
Not the most color-coordinated build in the world ahahaha... But this combo blew my socks off at 1080p. And later, when AMD's VSR (virtual super resolution) hit the scene, I was able to take many games I was already playing up to 1440p, no problem.
.... those were the golden days of my life. I was around 24 years old in 2012, and this combo ignited my passion for PC gaming!
pleasure to watch as always!
Also do not forget to mention that the I7 2600 only has AVX instructions while the 12100F benefits from also having AVX2. That helps a lot in games.
Very interesting. Never saw a comparison like.
Was starting to lose faith in intel prior to the release of LGA1700 and 12th gen. Faith has been completely restored. A very affordable i3 not only crushes performance from a mainstream quad i7 of 10 years ago but from what I can tell from benchmarks, is even putting a smackdown on early Skylake LGA2066 HEDT chips like the 6 core i7 7800x from 5 years ago
Nice I still daily a 2600k with a 1070 strix and 16gb cl9 1600 mhz ram and ssd. some games have pop in issues and the stutter is getting more apparent but this beast is so reliable. I have had it since 2010 running 8-10 hours a day at 4.2ghz and it still runs great . Its the first pc i ever built and the 2600k will always hold a special place in my heart.
Got the i7 2600 for around 30 euros here in germany just some weeks ago and paired it with an existing board and a rx 580. Although it is bottlenecking the 580 in some games I'm pretty happy with the combo and even some modern games are still playable on it.
2600 performance is so smooth that it will be playable til this day and age, even with a 3080 gpu
wow, I'm using i7 2600 and planned to upgrade into i3 12100f. what a coincidence. now I have figured out how much is the benefit of this upgrade. thanks a lot!
Used to have the 2600k paired with a GTX 570 then SLI and finally a GXT 680. It served me very well and it's still kicking butt in that rig somewhere else.
I'm loving the latest string of videos
You should also show power consumption for each cpu too. Performance per watt is also important.
2600k Owner here, still rocking my original cpu, mobo, and memory that I got back in december 2012. I can say that the moment for me has come to upgrade, however for very specific games.
Witcher 2 with Ubersampling On.
Planetside 2
Half Life Alyx VR
Oldrim and Skyrim SE
Skyrim VR
Payday 2 VR
Boneworks VR
Dirt Rally 2.0 VR
Breath of the Wild - Emulated
Demons Souls - Emulated
There are likely a few that i've forgotten however the main takeaway is that I need to upgrade is to brute force my way into getting complicated, modded, vr, emulated, or badly optimized stuff to run at acceptable levels.
New games that are well optimized continue to run without issue on my system, and I honestly wish that I didn't need to upgrade my cpu just to make these handful of titles playable. I've gotten to enjoy excellent system stability, new and old software support, and don't want to give that up. I refuse to sacrifice my ability to reliably load up something old and obscure.
I have some rigs with 2nd & 3rd gen i7 cpu's and am still happy with their performance! No trouble running the games I play at all...
Great value chip, I'm just glad Intel and AMD are trading blows properly now, at least in the mainstream market. It's good for us consumers.
My 2600k still going strong. This year added a gtx1070 and 16gb 2133mhz ram and 4.2ghz overclock. Playing far cry6 on high @ 60fps. Very happy.
This reminded me I have a i7 3770k which I may as well sell as I had to buy a new cpu when I upgraded my motherboard, should hopefully pay enough for a driving lesson lol. Enjoyable video as always :)
I got an i7 2600 for year and a half with 16GB RAM and a Nvidia Gtx1660 Super. Runs awesomely everything I tested on, Elden Ring at high 45-55 FPS so far. Needless to say all last 4 Resident Evils games, Apex, Days Gone, Hellblade Senua's Sacrifice, last 3 Assassin's Creed run pretty good and even Horizon zero dawn with last fixes with a descent performance
Can't believe I bought i7 3770k, not worth, but sure worth for my 2010s high end collection lol
Great work!
The I7-2600 is still a solid performer. It was a big improvement over the i7-860 (already itself a big improvement over the Q9650).
Despite that, there is still little reason to actually buy one if considering getting a different PC. Contemporary i3s such as the i3-10100, while more expensive, have the benefit of being new, having modern features, support much faster RAM, perform better than i7s all the way up to the i7-7700 (much stronger than the i7-2600), and have a significantly better upgrade path. An i7-2600 system should only be gotten on a tight budget that can't wait to get bigger, or if it's all one has available for the budget, a real concern in some places.
Still, it performs pretty good even 11 years later. Very impressive.
i got my i7 2600 for free in a dying alienware build i was able to transplant and improve - put it in a proper case, added a stock Antec PSU and a 660ti and 8gb ram, so not bad for mid 2016. Now today it's in an Acer mobo with 16gb DDR3, a 1060 3gb, in a RoG case i got off my nephew, along with a Coolermaster 550wPSU, a 120gb WD Green SSD and a 4tb Barracuda HDD. i never worry about a game running, and will buy a steam deck before i upgrade my gaming pc
Would be interesting to see a side-by-side with the "last" of the great chips, the Haswell 4790 (or marginally slower 4770)! I suspect the performance delta will be quite different and when you consider that a 4790 (not "K") is only slightly more used than a 2700, it might be a decent choice for a super budget-build.
The interesting thing about that is it then crosses over into X79 territory, ie. a used 6c 3930K is crazy cheap (SB-E, so the same IPC as the 2600K, a typical oc for a 3930K being 4.7), while the 6c 4930K often sells for the same or less than the 4790. Of course the 4930K is IB-E (so the same general IPC as the 3770K and of course PCIe 3.0 support) whereas the 4790 is HW, but the former's two extra cores, more PCIe lanes, larger L2, higher memory bandwidth from quad channel, etc. could make a hefty different for some titles, all the more so for those who do streaming, etc. The tricker part is finding relevant S2011 mbds, though the Ali models are often ok. Way back I built my brother a PC using a cheap ASUS P9X79 Deluxe and a 10-core XEON, still going strong for what he does.
Another curiosity is the 4c 4820K, again S2011 but it has a higher thermal socket budget per core (hence easy to oc) and still has 40 PCIe lanes, yet it sells for less than a third of the cost of a 4790, infact as little as 15 UKP with shipping. :D (see ebay item 363704633278) Among the other examples I have a 4820K on an ASUS R4E but not had time to experiment with it yet.
@@mapesdhs597 The problem is that X79/X99 motherboards are expensive (compared to a Chinese B75 at about $25 USD!), they need ECC RAM and they are _complete_ power hogs. A lot has changed recently (B75, H81 motherboard prices collapsing as well as non-ECC DDR3) to make the X79/X99 systems nowhere near as compelling as they used to be.
its actually a nice one bc i just watched your celeron vid and at the price point of the 12th gen celeron this i7 2nd gen seems viable.
My "backup PC" is an Optiplex 790 SFF with a Xeon E3-1270 (i7 2600 equivalent), 32 GB DDR3 and a GTX 1650 LP. It is still good for 60 fps on 1080p medium settings in most modern games.
I found used PC and it costs $285.
Specs ;
I7 2600
16 GB RAM
500 HDD + 120 SSD
RX 580 8GB
Is it too much or just about right ??
I was supposed to buy i7-2600 but instead I bought a new PC that's few gens younger
i still have a 2600K in one of my rigs , proudly enjoy it paired with an Rx 470 plus i enjoy the big perk of being able to run any operating system all the way back to Windows XP on these chips, I'm using windows 7 on it , but i have an xp build using sandy bridge which is overkill along with a gtx 960 lol
Same here but with a 970 ssc.
If you want even cheaper old gen cpus, you might want to look for their Xeon version instead. For example, the i7 2600's xeon equivalent is Xeon E3 1270, and the latter has listings from $25 on Ebay. This works best for CPUs in the Broadwell and Haswell range because they're old enough to be bargain bin material, but not old enough that their Xeon equivalents became collector items instead. Sometimes you'll find stray Xeons selling for 20-40% lower than their i-series counterpart.
For example, back in July last year, in my country a i7 4770 (non K) ran for over $120 a piece, but I got a Xeon E3 1270 v3 (basically the same CPU with server support & without Intel HD Graphics) for $80.
I feel like you can still squeeze more FPS from the Core i7 2600 than what already shown in this video.
All you have to do is turning off the High Precision Event Timer aka HPET from the Device Manager.
Because HPET is enabled by default on all DDR3 based systems.
Meanwhile on DDR4 & DDR5 systems, the HPET is already disabled by default.
Nos I’d like to watch a video with high end Sand Bridge, like Core i7-3790k, for example. It has more cache, more cores and more threads and supports quad channel. I believe it’s still great, even in 2022.
I upgraded in December from 6600K to 11600K and the performance increase was huge. I basically doubled my performance FPS wise in the games I play, whilst also upgrading my monitor from 1080p to 3440x1440.
I wanted to go 12th gen but couldn't get DDR5 locally nor were socket 1700 cooler adapters available yet for my AIO (obviously both released a couple of days after I ordered my parts and build my new pc...).
These chips are so good now I'd say pairing a 12400f with a non-OC motherboard, 750w PSU will likely be future proof and cost effective for the next 5 years (i.e. any AAA title in 60 FPS in 1080p). I've got a Z board and still haven't any overclocking on this setup. The few FPS i'll gain doesn't seem worth the time. In reality going K and Z was a waste of money, haha.
Der 8auer has a video about non k overlocking on msi boards
great video but would love some power figures on the osd just for efficiency comparison
THE PROBLEM WITH YOUR DEMONSTRATION is most of the time the i3 12100 is limited by the 2080super which is loaded at 100% !
You did not notice it and did not explain it.
If you used 3090 or 6900xt, or a much lower graphic settings instead, than with no gpu limitation as you had, you would have seen the 12100 giving a much better result and a wider gap from it to the 2600.
I want to upgrade my 4670k to this 12100f chip, but i find little to no video tests on Battlefield V and BF1 since these are my main games if someone in the comments owns it and play these two i'd be thankful if you tell me if it reaches 144fps.
Check the Techpowerup review of the 12100f because they have Battlefield V in the benchmarks.... and the i5-12400f is pummeling the i3-12100f.
I know the i3-12100f is going a great job with these games, but all of the games that are out have been made around Gen 8 consoles. These 4c/8t processors like the i3-12100f, 10100f, 7700k, 4790k, aren't going to fare well with Gen 9 console games. Gen 9 consoles have an 8c/16t, Ryzen-Zen 2 class CPU, in which 12 threads will be used for games, and 4 threads will be reserved for the system.
Dual-Core processors were popular for a while, but those became obsolete when games for Gen 8 consoles came out. The i3-12100f reminds me of the Pentium g3258.
@@m8x425 Thank you for your comment, i'm not planning to keep it for long like I did with my 4670k. I want to get a decent board with it and when 13th gen comes out i'll pick an i5 with the same platform since it'll use the same socket.
I'm a bit budget limited for now, buying a GPU, RAM, and Motherboard at the same time with the processor costs alot especially in my country due to extremely high taxes. As an exemple the cheapest z690 is around 453 US$ and the 12100f costs 216$.. 12400f 342$ and so on... Even that the monthly minimum wage here is 140$ :/
I upgraded from a 2012 vintage 2600 to an 11500F about six months ago, thanks to an even older add-in sound card faulting and frying the motherboard through the PCI (not PCIe) socket.
It seems we're finally, after 10 years, at the point where upgrading is a reasonable thing to do anyway. I'm worried about all this "security" gubbins they put in modern bioses, though. Seems like I won't be allowed to do what I want to do with my own hardware, or it could be bricked without notice or explanation.
i still have my i7 2600 some where. it served me well for 7 years straight.
My backup PC has an i7-3820 which is basically the same processor with quad channel ram, and i was able to play warzone surprisingly well on it
Still got my old 2600k running in my mame cabinet, after upgrading my desktop 18 months ago.
I'd be interested to see how much the gap between the two CPUs can be narrowed when deactivating all Spectre/Meltdown/other security mitigations on the Sandy Bridge part.
ive ran Inspectre on mine, and the gain is noticable. 1060 3gb/i7-2600/16gb DDR3/120gb WD Green SSD & 4tb Barracuda HDD. i've zero complaints, even got the S variant in my HTPC
I'm facing the same issue in Elden Ring. My 1246 v3 (4770) won't allow me to hit 60 fps even though my GPU still has plenty of head room.
Well upgrade i am not cause of frames cause I gotta 3930 and I dont care bout 60 never have but I do get stutters and imma upscaler so I need my 3060 to run better
Looks fine :) Iv noticed things are slowly coming round to my 4790k
What's kind of sad is that 2nd gen intel systems are STILL on the market 10 years out. They're certainly cheaper than they used to be, but it's kind of distressing that the used market hasn't moved on to a new baseline platform. You can get 4th gen for about the same price point (and they have AVX2), but there's still a lot of 2nd and 3rd gen systems out there. I'd like to see 6th gen take over the low end already; they generally have m.2 slots.
It was great that you made the video where both processors have the same amount of cores/threads as most people on youtube do like I7 2600K VS I7 12700K, which is a little...off, since it's nowhere near close and the performance is hyperbolated due to the differences in cores. There were too many years of stagnation, double the performance on the i3 compared to the i7 is of course impressive, but when you realize it's been 11 years, it's less and less impressive by the second.
I think the Intel 2nd Gen was a really good family of processors, they feel modern even after 11 years. Like my i5 2320 which can still offer players a decent experience for something like 15/20 euros worth of cpu. In 2019 I had the luck of buying a 1650 super for a human price, circa 200 euros and, despite the cpu bottleneck, I can play quite flawlessly The Witcher 3, Euro Truck Simulator, with every setting almost maxed out, and GTA5, No Man's Sky, Fallout 4 with little settings adjustments... so, I'm a little reluctant of changing my setup, but newer intel generations are very appealing and I hope to be able to invest some money in new parts soon.
Im still rocking an old i5 4460 paired with a 1060 3GB on my office/light gaming rig and it can till pay a lot of modern games with medium/low settings at 1080p.
Those new stock coolers are absolutely gorgeous too