Trey Burke Is Why There’ll Never Be Another Allen Iverson! Stunted Growth
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- To me Iverson is the hardest player to recreate, and imo there’ll never be another player you could compare to Allen, in play style that can have the same or better success, because the league is just so much different when Iverson took it by storm with moves, a look, and personality never before seen. A look, personality and even game that wasn’t always accepted and or championed by the NBA. But he was and is one of the greatest to ever do it, even without a championship. Second to Jordan as my all time favorite player. I just knew there could never be another player like Iverson, whose game I’d absolutely love watching. Then comes Trey Burke. A player that shows you just why the Iverson game style, wouldn’t work in today’s NBA. Shockingly Trey Burke’s game style evolved into what could be a splitting image of Allen Iverson’s, he even eerily resembles him physically, making me wonder, why isn’t Trey Burke able to have the same success in the league. What happened to Iverson’s second coming, and why with the same style, he didn’t work out like expected. Trey Burke Is Why There’ll Never Be Another Allen Iverson! Stunted Growth
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Will there ever be another Iverson, possibly more effective? Trey Burke is still really good. Wish he had better opportunities in the league
I doubt there will be because of where the game is at. Statistics dominate the game and I don't see a team conforming to A.I's heavy inefficient volume of shots.
I feel like Ja and Westbrook are the closest we will get. They don't necessarily play like Ivo, but they relentlessly, fearlessly attack the rim and aren't afraid of any moment on the court.
I think of Kyrie as a 6'2 combination of Iverson and Kobe
No where NEAR the quickness or explosion.
YOU CANT IMITATE KOBE IS kobe Hater
He wasn't waived by the Knicks. He was traded to the Dallas Mavericks. He actually had some solid years with them. Trey can ball!
He did. Mavs my team. I think when they was playing the clippers those two straight years he actually was ballin I want to say he went for 30 one of those games or probably 20. But yeah trey burke legit seriously if Utah never thought exum was special trey burke would still be ballin for the jazz lol.
again teams want to win not let a third tier player "ball"
@@user-nv1gm2zj7yevery team that truly put the ball in his hands won ! NBA never game hun a real chance just told him go hoop !
@@user-nv1gm2zj7ywhat’s a third tier player even going in the league for multiple years ?
@@Youngsta897 Very true, I think the league is loaded with talent as well and not every player is going to get a shot at always getting playing time. I've seen players go from having a decent year to barely even playing the next season. There are so many factors involved..
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I use to like trey Burke a lot he was a killer at Michigan 🔥🔥🔥
Trey Burke was nowhere near Iversons talent! Allen has more Attributes! Iverson was 10x more athletic and he without a doubt could change his game a game similar to Currys if not better! Imagine Curry having Iversons ability.
@@kentagious1246 I never said he was
@@edwardkimakaballislifekim_578 didn't say u did
@@kentagious1246weak ass response lol just keep scrolling bruh Lmao
Trey Burke resembled Iverson but his playstyle looked like a smoother version of Juan Dixon imo.
Eh, a less brawny version of Marbury.
@@Magicstockton great point
The undersized combo guard is the most oversaturated player type in basketball. Its essentially the NFL running back in basketball.
Trey was good in college and his game resembled AI at times in the league , even similar jumpshot forms but AI was a top % athlete that was the main difference , AI had the speed , quickness and just all around better jumping ability , Burke was very limited and nowhere near the ball handler or finisher
Yep Iverson was a special special athlete with the skill to match
Facts Trey wasn't jumping out the gym like AI or the handles.
Curious how he hasn't tested the waters in Europe where smaller scoring guards have found success. Mike James and Shane Larkin comes to mind. May be that's in his future.
I think the whole "anything outside the NBA is considered a failure" 🤷🏾♀️🙃.....type mentality is probably why
he was playing for Capitanes de Ciudad de México, but had a season ending ankle injury in december.
Nobody thought Trey Burke was going to be another a.i. that's a bad take
I honestly believe he said that because of how they somewhat resemble each other when it comes to height and looks. I used to watch him when he was on the Knicks and he definitely didn't play like Allen Iverson.
To be an undersized guard you need elite quickness, Trey just didn't have it.
Vanfleet doesn’t have elite quickness.
@@Nasty-Nate-gh4itu don’t need elite quickness u need high iq, shot making and shot creation
@@presley.25 agreed 100%. Elite quickness with those things is what makes a iverson. That being said Vanfleet is also a fantastic defender despite being undersized
@@Nasty-Nate-gh4it van fleet has better height and is a better shooter. To play the way trey play with his percentages he needed to have better quickness. You can’t be a small guard and not a great shooter without elite quickness.
@@milworks trey is likely taller than van fleet. If not they are the same size. Van fleet is just a extremely smart point guard and it makes up for his lack of speed and height
Tiny Archibald was a short player that led the league in scoring and assists. He was listed as 6’1”, but was likely shorter. You forgot about him on stunt #1
Tiny had a game and style that was rarely seen at the NBA level, at the time.
Asked for this ages ago and glad it's done 🙌🏾. But have to disagree with AI comparisons, at least initially. Burke is neither as quick nor as athletic as Iverson was; his shifty game allowed him to beat people at UM but didn't give him enough separation in the pros to dominate. He also tried to score his way thru NBA games instead of being a more balanced PG. Was once compared to Chris Paul in college but just became a one-note scorer in the pros. Definitely Stunted.
All facts
A major reason to iverson"s success as opposed to burkes was that he was lucky enough to be with an organization that amplified his confidence. Not just his teammates but the organization as a whole, burke was bounced around.
Man trey burke was raw to me. When he came to the Mavs I'm like yeah man got a good back up guard smh they let me boy go smh shout out trey burke
I enjoyed watching him on the knicks when he had the braids.
Once he cut them he lost it
Burke is not even close of an athlete Iverson was, and no mentality like AI. That's the difference.
Trey was a straight bucket in college.
@Stunted Growth
Great content as always. If possible could you do one on Jabari Parker? I'm not a Duke fan but with him being from my hometown Chicago, I thought this dude had lots of potential to make it, but something happened
He did already.
I'm almost Certain he already did a stunted Growth on him I could be wrong but I vaguely remember the video
yeah he tore his acl like 3 times end of story
@@shawnjhuuhurdd
If he did a video on him then I didn't know
@@shawnjhuuhurdd Right, he went from looking like an instant All-Star to a Solid starter, to a good backup, to DONE. Done.
I just tried to search for this video a couple days ago thinking you would’ve already covered him by now lmaoooo. Then not even a week later you made it.
How about a Dejuan Blair video?
Trey one of my faves all time i went to the same middle school that he played for so i met him before his ncaa run when he came to the school he a top 3 player from columbus just watched him go crazy in the pro am championship in my city
Speaking of Dante exum, he’s the next request
Dante exum drafted by jazz in 2014 draft but the year before that, jazz drafted Trey in 2013
brilliant assessment
Dope channel bro. You should do a video on Xavier Henry. Great player coming up
Idk Man. His stint with the Knicks. I remember hearing Clyde Frazier talk about his defense one game in a short sample size only to back track it a few games later when He was named starter. Like let’s be for real… Defense in todays NBA!? His Knicks run was pretty good. He should’ve remained a knick but.. Knicks wanted him gone in favor of Frank Ntilikina 😂 I remember one time if you type in Trey Burke knick hightlight.. Man’s was breaking out double doubles like he was A All-Pro. Only Knicks PG with 42 & 12 iirc while shooting over 50%. He was just a victim of circumstances. Trey Burke had game.
You should do a story on Cleveland Browns Justin Gilbert he went number 8 in 2014. This would be a great story to cover.
I promise I don't do this a lot but did you misspell Trajectory on purpose on Stunt number 2? I could see it. Trey Burk TREjectory.
A.I. is the 2 guard version of Zeke, and Ja Morant is the Point Guard version of A.I. We've definitely seen a modern version of A.I., whether it be Ja or Kyrie.
Trey Burke is More Marbury than Ivo. Iverson was fast as hell. Closest we’ve had to Iverson is JCraw. Ironically Mamba said we’re lucky Ivo wasn’t 6’5” when JC was right there but didn’t have the green light Ivo did.
Do one for Patrick McCaw, 3 time champ in 3 years and ghosted the Warriors. As what Jerry West said, they’ll be sorry they didn’t take him. Now out of the league and got deported in Belgium after signing with their pro team.
What?😂 Wasn’t he like a late first/second rounder? Who had any expectations for him?
@@wavvy87oww 2nd rounder, Isiah Thomas was a 2nd rounder and featured on stunted growth
@@wavvy87owwbro you must be super casual. It’s not about expectations. It’s about what you do when you get there. Pat McCaw was legit supposed to stay with the Warriors or at the very least still be in the league. He was actually decent. Legitimately contributed to the team winning even if it was a small contribution. He got tick.
@@spliffsforbreakfastbro stop it. He was the 38th pick. Most players at that selection don’t even make it to the league let alone stay with the same team. Dude was nothing so I don’t even know why this discussion is being had. A guy who shoots barely 40% on extremely low volume isn it decent
Trey Burke does not have nearly the athleticism or explosiveness of Allen iverson that’s the major difference
Trey Burke was a exciting college player & solid pro lack of Opportunity and playing for a winning / Functioning Organization was his stunted growth ( Respectfully he was never going to impact the game like A.I)
When they say smaller guys are a defensive liability I say how in an era where you can’t be physical. It’s just a narrative of you ask me.
A shorter player is a defensive liability because the other player can just shoot over him....
They are, but, a strong mix of defensive players and schemes can cover it up (see knicks and brunso). But I agree, sometimes ot seems overblown
@@mistermann3225 again, that’s a problem all of the league had then players can always shoot over other players … you simply have to have the teammates capable of helping when he blown past but again, that’s every perimeter player.
@@phamawa I can agree there … it’s what’s always been done, definitely overblown in an era with no hand checks & arms checks .
Can you do a AZ stunted growth?
Trey was underrated throughout his career. When you look at 2:15 you can see he got better every year. Especially when he was with the Knicks in 17-18 he had 13ppg, 5apg, and 2rpg (on under 22mpg) while shooting over 50% and 36% from 3. Those are all solid!
Teams just didn’t value his size and that he was an unreliable defender largely due to that… sad to see
Trey Burke was an Beyond Amazing Talent..
Excellent video! But I respectfully disagree with your take on how AI’s original play style wouldn’t work today. While advanced stats would probably still hate him, the floor is so open now. Defences would be leaving shooters pretty wide open if they tried to collapse the paint to take him outta the mix. Could easily see him dominating with his driving and penetration with either way less guarded lanes around the hoop or with a newfound plethora of passing options on the off chance a defence would rather isolate on his ability to create defensive breakdowns. Assuming there would roughly be a balance between the two for defences, I think pretty much all of AI’s numbers go up. And that’s assuming he doesn’t even bother working on his notoriously streaky long ball. He bumps that up to anything even touching 34-35% and I think we se some peak Harden numbers outta AI in todays game on a seasonal basis because nobody could keep up. Look at what Steph Curry did during his peak. Take away the shooting ability but add about 15x the speed to running off all those back cuts and low post screens while Bubba runs semi circles around the baseline and you’ve got a near unstoppable force on the court.
How about doing a video on T.J. Ford........
Brandon Jennings was supposed to be the next AI
Correct.
He 🔥 in 2k
I love him on the Knicks
Brunson, Spida, JA, Trae Young etc... Plenty Iverson types in the league currently.
Trey was nice. He just ended up on teams that didn’t value him. Opportunity and timing is key
The most important thing that people fail to realize is exactly what you said. Opportunity and timing!
He was very good @ Michigan
Speaking of Dante Exum... you should do Dante Exum
he had an ok stint with the knicks
You gotta do Luke Recker, Kenyon Martin, Cherokee Parks, and Johnny Dawkins.
He should come and play in Europe, he might revive his career here.
Trey, if you read that comment, come to Europe!
“he was labeled a 4” almost had me thinking he was playing PF in high school 😭😂
HE WOULD BE A SUPERSTAR IN THE NBL...
Kyrie Irving is the closest thing we have to A.I 😂. I don’t really understand this video and not acknowledging Kyrie. Kyrie may has about two to three inches on Iverson but they play style is VERY similar. My favorite player is A.I but to not even mention Kyrie is crazy. Even when kyrie first was drafted everyone wanted to handle the ball like Kyrie even till this day. I think the only thing that A.I has over Kyrie honestly is leadership honestly. Trey Burke is a nice player but this video doesn’t really make any sense without even mentioning Kyrie. No disrespect but personally don’t think this video is a good representation of what the topic was about.
The comment I was looking for. Kyrie literally is AI 2.0 and AI is one of my favorite players of all time
Yup.
As unreal as AI’s handles were, his game was speed and athleticism (many levels above Kyrie, just like Kyrie is many levels above AI in efficiency). Handles is the only thing that they have in common.
Monta Ellis was somewhat an Iverson inspired player
Do one on Johnny Flynn
There will never be another Iverson type player ever again due to the league becoming all about analytics now.
donovan mitchell is a modern day allen iverson 6'1 score first 2 guard
Bubba Chuck was the fastest person I’ve ever seen play basketball
I really like Burks on the Utah jazz. ✌️
No 🧢 he be wit them savages when he n the city
Bruh,DON'T EVER DISREPSPECT A.I LIKE THAT! BURKE ISN'T NOWHERE NEAR A.I's skill set........Iverson was selfish? Bruh,iverson was a killer and wanted to win....who tf was he gonna pass it to that was an offensive threat?
No need to waste talent for the sake of "sharing"
Ok the big big difference is I’d say athleticism plus MAJOR ball handling and passing plus play making that’s a hole lotta difference. I will concede they’re play style is extremely similar, AI was just a different beast you can tell in the video he just created so much space he was much more fluid with the ball
Bc Iverson was not only the most talented on the court whenever he suited up, he was the fastest and most passionate..doing his moves in slow motion, that's Tre Burke, not even close
I think maybe his appearance was similar to AI never his skills on the court. Besides physical similarities it’s nothing else there. The closest to Iverson who’s been on here before is Cat Barber.
I’m confused, because I can name at least 5 modern-Iverson’s we’ve seen so far. Kyrie, Kemba, Burke, Lou Will, and Jamal Crawford. It’s the same thing. Scoring guards, 3 of which are barely 6ft, who are incredibly crafty with the ball, and bring little else outside of that skill. In a modern, more talented league, these are the absolute best possible scenarios for an Iverson 2.0. There isn’t a more obvious example because most teams are no longer foolish enough to put all their faith in an undersized guard.
Todd Day or Erick Barkley next please
I've said this once and I'll say it again.... the NBA is QUANITY over QUALITY
You said it best....
Trey Burke is a "dime-a-dozen" player
QUANITY over QUALITY
Trey Burke was the truth
Got the burke jersey on rn he was an ape in college them tourney runs was must watch
Trey Burke with the Knicks they tried to put frank over him he was bouta become a little star Kevin KD gave him his props and went back an fourth with Kemba
I still use Trey Burke's shot and moves in 2k my player
Ja Morant is our Allen Iverson
No
Trey burk was Nice just lets you know how Good you have to be to play PG in the NBA.. A.I was disgustingly NICE..and he was WAY faster than Burke
Trey can really play he just always ended up with the wrong teams Utah should have kept him. He has still been with teams that should have kept him but he always ended up being the odd man out. But he can still help a team.
Iverson played defense for one and the spurs in the mid 2000’s showed teams how to play better basketball than just passing it to inefficient bucket hunters. It’s not about multiple stats it’s about advanced stats becoming prevalent.
He definitely wasnt as quick, fast or athletic as Iverson on top of that chip on his shoulder.
Trey Burke was nice at Michigan. The National Player of the Year....but he was NOT Iverson!
Ai was set up to never win a championship, i still remember the trade blocks
Burkes game looks like slow motion next to Iverson. AI kills in any era.
I think the major difference is allen iverson waa probably the fastest player from end to end from 1998-2003 ish when wade and bron entered the league. I think he's speed advantage made it easier for him to create space for jumpers and get to the rim. He essentially would get to open spots in the floor and raise up before talker defendera could catch up. And another thing, todays game has so many skilled players that an Allen Iverson type player would have to share the ball offensively a lot more. He'd be surrounded by a lot of shooters and guys who can also create their own shots which is kinda the opposite of what Allen iverson had in his prime where everything pretty much ran through iverson. So burke would've needed tp be in the upper echelon of speed, faster than guys like prime Westbrook/fox in order to replicate the advantage iverson had with his speed. Then of course the ultimate green light to have games where he can shoot 7-27, 11-31, or 8- 35 without beinf benched the next game. Kyrie is probably in that realm of having the greenlight, but he doesn't have the super speed advantage but he makes up for rhe inferior athleticism with superior ball handling to create his space. So burke would've either needed the speed or supreme ball handling to have the advantage over defenders. Also iverson regularly got a lot of steals, and I don't see burke having that type of ability , so thats another area where he somewhat fell short. So in order to replicate Iverson's play style and success, you need to be the fastest in the league, have the best handles in the lague, and have the ultimate green light to shoot as much as you need to win games. And also be on a team where your teammates rely on you to get them open and create open looks for them, while also leading the league in steals.
He’d be great in a jordan clarkson role on almost any team.
Trey got busy at Michigan, but he is no Iverson. He just grew his hair out and got braids to look more like AI. He was never the best player on an NBA roster, AI was. Huge difference.
Aint this the same dude who made fun of that disfigured dude in Wisconsin? Damn, what a lo ser.
There will never be another player that inefficient , who will be allowed to dominate the ball and have an unlimited green light.
He was a much better three point shooter than A.I.
Nah in New York this nigga was getting BUSY 🔥💪🏾 will always hold it down to TBurke fr
I feel like everyone including Burke tried to force the comparisons. Like dude literally grew braids and wore a sleeve 😂 get real bro. He’s not even close to the player that AI was.
Kyrie is kind of like Allen iverson
Do Chris clack
My thinking is that Trey in comparison to AI’s raw athleticism there is no comparison. AI was a multi-sport talent and probably could’ve went to the NFL. I was a big Trey guy but he’s just not even in the realm of that type of athlete. Super skilled though.
I feel like Monte Ellis was more comparable to A.I than Trey.
fuck no
You know ball.
Who's a better Magic?
Trey a legit 6 foot
Trey was my guy!!! College player of the year, and damn near got Michigan a title!!! The right system or coach dude could've made an all-star or 2. Could score with anybody, and efficient for the majority of his career. Just couldn't do anything else 😴
We do see Brunson bring back ai type of scoring in these playoffs avg 27 attempts
My damn Knicks should havr kept him and then Trier too!!!!
Analytics is the reason it will never be another ai wasnt as efficient because he had to chuck it to keep his team in the game
I would argue the Jazz completely screwed his development, as well as Dante Exum's. They drafted Burke, who finished 3rd in rookie of the year voting (in a historically weak year, mind you), averaging roughly 13 points and 5 assists to 2 turnovers. Not great, but not awful. Literally the next year they drafted Danted Exum and had them split starts. Completely screwed both of their development. Like if you've figured Burke isn't the guy after one season, fine. But then go all in on Exum. Don't stunt both of them.
As I have heard this comparison, time and time again. As I (like many) witnessed Allen Iverson's entire career as well as Trey Burke's time in the league I will never relent when I say, this comparison was never fair to Trey Bruke. Yes, Trey had a similar game to AI. But in terms of sheer athleticism, Trey at his peek was equal to Iverson during the Dever years.
Allen Iverson was otherworldly in his prime. The only player that size I have seen who had the package of hops, open court speed and first step explosion was T.J. Ford and of course he lacked the health and killer instinct.
As quick as Trey was, as good a handle as he had, as good of shooter that he was, he was (talent wise) a fairly average player. Now before any moron pounces, understand, Trey Burke was good enough to make noise in NBA (however briefly it was). But he just wasn't the same animal as Allen Iverson to start, and it's never been fair.
The difference between PLAYING WEĹL & doing work Trey VS Iverson
kyrie is a prototype of a.i. back then i look at burk as a rod strickland or mark jackson or john stark type
He should have been in the league now; but his size, style, and speed don't blend with current NBA protocol.