The $1.5 Billion Plan to Clean Paris' River

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  • Опубліковано 22 сер 2023
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    This is a video about the 1.5 billion dollar cleanup of the Seine.
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    Map source by MapTiler / OpenStreetMap Contributors via Geolayers 3
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    Paris, Urban Planning, Design

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  • @hoogyoutube
    @hoogyoutube  9 місяців тому +323

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    • @ChristianHaschek
      @ChristianHaschek 9 місяців тому +21

      Obviously the german you found is Simplicissimus. I'd recognize that german boy any day of the week (mostly wednesday thogh 😜)

    • @TreyPDB
      @TreyPDB 9 місяців тому +5

      omlette du fromage

    • @compromisedssh
      @compromisedssh 9 місяців тому +5

      Haha, I left a comment on the Putin underground bunker fern video a few weeks ago, asking if Hoog had another channel or if the channels shared a voice actor.

    • @GLUBSCHI
      @GLUBSCHI 9 місяців тому

      ⁠@@thevis5465 Curious! I am very intelligent.

    • @fuzzywzhe
      @fuzzywzhe 9 місяців тому +3

      Do you know know the term "sewage"?

  • @SpaceStickwithSpaceTick
    @SpaceStickwithSpaceTick 9 місяців тому +17058

    I find it hilarious how professional this videos visuals and tone are and then out of the blue its like "The sewer system mixes the s*** water and storm water together". I wish more informative videos did that.

    • @xxxxxxxxxxxdfdszfgsz
      @xxxxxxxxxxxdfdszfgsz 9 місяців тому +532

      yea but teachers cant play it in class now :/

    • @adamwelch9988
      @adamwelch9988 9 місяців тому +42

      It's incredible

    • @Imperial_Squid
      @Imperial_Squid 9 місяців тому +245

      This feels like Half As Interesting or Wendover Productions cooler younger brother 😂😂

    • @insideimagery133
      @insideimagery133 9 місяців тому +16

      Fresh air

    • @Danthompsen
      @Danthompsen 9 місяців тому +161

      Yeah that was a strange choice of words

  • @seinezo7290
    @seinezo7290 9 місяців тому +2513

    As a Parisian, I had friends in highschool that would go swim in the Seine. Naturally, once they got out of the water, they were no longer my friends.

    • @rowanwild8445
      @rowanwild8445 9 місяців тому +152

      I remember two years ago during the music festival there was a drunk dude who got into a fight and swam straight in to escape.
      There were cops on boat fishing him up in no time with a nasty fine

    • @Greeneetch
      @Greeneetch 9 місяців тому +36

      Ca va, c'était juste pour un défi (que j'ai gagné par ailleurs).

    • @mehdi_mzz
      @mehdi_mzz 8 місяців тому +6

      jure c'était toi mdrrrr@@Greeneetch

    • @slg_sasha
      @slg_sasha 8 місяців тому

      Bv le pseudo

    • @mehdi_mzz
      @mehdi_mzz 8 місяців тому

      qui ?@@slg_sasha

  • @johnjeanb
    @johnjeanb 9 місяців тому +225

    Parisian here. I fully support the actions to clean the Seine river. Hidalgo, Paris mayor is looking for lime lights. Cleaning the Seine river is OBVIOUSLY NOT an action limited to Paris but of all Departements and Régions bathed by the Seine. So real actions in water processing and garbage collection is needed, ABSOLUTELY. I can see some progress (Huge difference with my childhood in the 50s) in my home town of Asnieres (20km downstream of Paris). There are fishs, there are plants, animals, no smell, some devices to collect floating debris, bottles, etc, but still quite a lot to do.

  • @gonun69
    @gonun69 8 місяців тому +38

    Here in Basel, swimming in the Rhine River is a huge thing, on hot days there are thousands floating down the river. I wish Paris the best of luck in achieving their goal.

    • @Filoilem
      @Filoilem 8 місяців тому +2

      beni grad höt gse👍🏻

    • @fuji.21
      @fuji.21 8 місяців тому +1

      @@Filoilemich war im zürisee😀👍

  • @Alex-pw7si
    @Alex-pw7si 9 місяців тому +439

    I love the way he says "shitwater". It's so professional.

    • @davidesp00
      @davidesp00 Місяць тому +1

      i keep having to replay the vid just to make sure i heard him correctly, since CC wont show shit water lol

  • @jenelaina5665
    @jenelaina5665 9 місяців тому +3465

    It's 2023, no one should be overflowing sewage into a waterway. Absolutely not one to judge, we have combined sewer systems still in Michigan and it's absurd they haven't been separated yet. Especially with climate change increasing heavy rain events. Our outflow is the Great Lakes basin and fresh water is kind of important. More power to her and hope progress pace gets picked up worldwide (IJA is helping here some at least).

    • @Ntyler01mil
      @Ntyler01mil 9 місяців тому +72

      Detroit can barely afford to maintain its infrastructure, let along completely rebuild it.

    • @currenlydying
      @currenlydying 9 місяців тому +95

      yeah but it's so hard to fix, especially in cities like Paris with stupidly large and complex rail tunnel networks and high density. The fact that there's train stations like Châtelet-Les Halles being basically massive voids under Paris' center is both a marvel of civil engineering and a challenge...

    • @fungo6631
      @fungo6631 9 місяців тому

      Colonizers tend to learn the worst habits from the people they colonized.

    • @MrKyle700
      @MrKyle700 9 місяців тому +25

      easier said than done. Same thing is happening here in Hawaii. They allowed us to build years and years ago using cess pools and now want you to upgrade to septic tanks. But who is going to pay the 10k, 15k needed for the upgrade? Most people here are just barely making ends meet. We don't have the money to upgrade our septic even if they do help (which they dont). I totally understand the parisans who wont upgrade. The government should fully cover the cost if they are so desperate for it

    • @jenelaina5665
      @jenelaina5665 9 місяців тому +6

      @@Ntyler01mil during Snyder one of his many taskforces said statewide we were underfunding just water/sewer maintenance around half a billion... And added a footnote that their estimate was conservative. So, yep.

  • @hectormontes7056
    @hectormontes7056 9 місяців тому +499

    I honestly hope more cities go in the direction she’s going in. Europe’s already less car centric than America, but I’m still surprised at how many rivers there are that are close to or are basically just open sewage.

    • @nicoyu2447
      @nicoyu2447 8 місяців тому +26

      This week a group of the Paris administration department will come to Basel to inspire why Swiss people can swim in the rivers. Years ago the rivers in Switzerland were polluted too but in the recently years they changed that and there's everyone swimming in the rivers like in Bern, Zurich and even Basel that has a lot of industry there

    • @puccaland
      @puccaland 8 місяців тому +4

      They will need to do what Switzerland did x 10 so it can have any effect in Paris. We're talking apples and oranges here. In comparison Switzerland is the outer urban area of Paris plus its country side.

    • @ja_u
      @ja_u 8 місяців тому +5

      You go the usual American route of talking about Europe as if it were a country. Many European countries have solved these problems, the shit rivers are left in for example France.
      Europe in many ways is more comparable to Asia than America from a diversity standpoint. You also wouldn’t mix in China, Thailand, and Kazakhstan into one and make a problem Russia might have, one of Asia as a whole. It just doesn’t make much sense

    • @hectormontes7056
      @hectormontes7056 8 місяців тому +8

      @@ja_u Europe _in general_ is less car-centric and I never said every river in Europe was a shit river, it’s just a surprisingly consistent story across different places in Europe, especially historically. Not that solving that problem in each country would mean the same thing.

    • @T33K3SS3LCH3N
      @T33K3SS3LCH3N 8 місяців тому +2

      ​@@ja_ularge parts of these efforts are done on a state level in the US, or city-wide levels. In this case there is really no problem at comparing individual cities from across the US with individual cities across Europe.

  • @smitchered
    @smitchered 8 місяців тому +19

    As a frenchman, excellent video! Thank you! On point humor, good descriptions, and nice 3d renders.

  • @Feunouill
    @Feunouill 9 місяців тому +2665

    Hay Hogg, Excellent video as often.
    I live 80km before Paris along the Seine and we swim in it all summer because the water looks really clean there. But when you take the train for Paris (along the Seine all the way) from my small town you can see every 10k the color of the water changing bit after bit, from the beautiful green color from where I live to the classic Paris' Brown™.
    I really hope Madame Hidalgo can put her vision into reality even tho we're not there yet.
    Also the canal in the north of Paris is already swimmable and hold small pools in the summer during 'Paris Plage'.
    Have a nice day.

    • @azahel542
      @azahel542 9 місяців тому +67

      As someone who often walks by the quai of the canal Saint Martin and who have more than on one occasion witnessed boats dumping their waste in the water and felt the foul stench that irradiated from it, I don't understand those pools at all...

    • @fanOfMinecraft-UAs_channel
      @fanOfMinecraft-UAs_channel 9 місяців тому +9

      Doesn't look that brown to me on video
      You haven't seen Poltva river brown™ colour
      Poltva is the river that goes under Ukrainian city of Lviv, and in my village nearly 5 - 6 km away its still brownier than Sein

    • @sirjoey3137
      @sirjoey3137 9 місяців тому +32

      Brown water doesn't always mean disgusting shit polluted water. You might know of the very famous Yellow River in China, it is yellow/brown because of the silt and dirt 1000s of km upstream getting carried all along it's length.@@fanOfMinecraft-UAs_channel

    • @fanOfMinecraft-UAs_channel
      @fanOfMinecraft-UAs_channel 9 місяців тому

      @@sirjoey3137 Yes, but brown colour in Poltva is just badly treated shit, my dad said before the world's worst treatment plant was built, it sometimes stinked to our garden
      The treatment plant is just useless piece of garbage
      Also someone needed to put another plant somewhere before it overflows into river, from which Poles in Warsaw drink their water

    • @KarlSen
      @KarlSen 9 місяців тому

      Who the fuck says " Madame Hidalgo" ?

  • @jdjphotographynl
    @jdjphotographynl 9 місяців тому +1019

    That Fern announcement was brilliant. 🤣

    •  9 місяців тому +1

      felt the sameee

    • @Neon-ws8er
      @Neon-ws8er 9 місяців тому

      @@Joe-sg9llyOuRE aN NpC 🤓🤓🤓

    • @ExtremelyGullibleMeme
      @ExtremelyGullibleMeme 9 місяців тому +1

      @@Joe-sg9lljoe

    • @mattmartin7028
      @mattmartin7028 9 місяців тому +7

      It was so surprising but I watched through the whole thing instead of skipping so i guess it works

    • @teamok1025
      @teamok1025 8 місяців тому

      Inprisonned german

  • @UMBERRRTO1
    @UMBERRRTO1 9 місяців тому +61

    Sydney City did a similar thing around its Barangaroo district and plans to make the entire Sydney Habour swimmable.
    The parameters for that, however, are 10 years of consecutive clean water tests before being able to be opened up as public swim holes.
    This last year saw the first of those being approved.
    Heavy industry and malpractice from the last century are unfortunately not something that can be easily reversed in a mere year or so.
    Good luck to Paris

    • @daspec
      @daspec 8 місяців тому +3

      Good luck swimming in Sydney with all the sharks! 😂

    • @originaljoke4502
      @originaljoke4502 7 місяців тому

      @@daspec maybe the waste water killed them all off by now 🤷‍♂

  • @REB4444
    @REB4444 4 місяці тому +17

    That's the problem with these over romanticized places. The reality is that Paris smells, the cafes have become over priced tourist traps with way too many tourists everywhere, and everything is overpriced.

    • @Satan-lb8pu
      @Satan-lb8pu 17 днів тому +1

      Yeah the problem with everyone of those problems is tourists. Overtourism is a cancer in many cities in europe

  • @eritain
    @eritain 9 місяців тому +808

    In 2012, Portland, Oregon completed the Big Pipe Project to reduce combined sewer overflows, at a similar price tag. But it's worth mentioning that the three Big Pipes are really just the second line of defense.
    The humble first line is preventing so much runoff from going into the sewers in the first place: rain gardens and stormwater sumps disconnect downspouts from the sewer and send the rain into the ground, like it did before all the pavement. Clean streams from outside the city that had been canalized through the sewer were given their own, separate pipeline to the river. And some of the combined sewers were separated, with the stormwater going to a large, newly reconstructed wetland.
    It took 20 years, but rainy Portland went from 2100 hours of overflow each year to 13.

    • @arthur1670
      @arthur1670 9 місяців тому +5

      but you still dont want to be dumping that direct into the rivers too

    • @handlemonium
      @handlemonium 9 місяців тому +11

      Good FYI. Am a Portland Metro resident so this is very good to know 👍

    • @echohunter4199
      @echohunter4199 9 місяців тому +12

      As an Oregonian (Klamath Falls) that’s been away serving in the Army for 26 years (Infantry) I didn’t know the details of that project. You’re pretty insightful on your overview and history, well done sir.

    • @keeanmorishita8457
      @keeanmorishita8457 9 місяців тому +5

      I have been swimming downtown portland off the Hawthorne dock for years now. Although the algea blooms this year have been not good

    • @nickmanning3913
      @nickmanning3913 9 місяців тому

      Unfortunately It looks like the shit has come back to Portland and this time it’s all over the streets. Often the current shit has blue or purple hair and would melt if exposed to a third world countries day to day life but is still pushing for anarchy.
      It seems Portland will need to drastically update its sewage system before these pieces of shit don’t have anywhere left to get a fancy coffee.

  • @ritaheller921
    @ritaheller921 9 місяців тому +598

    Crazy how much Olympics shape urbanism. Daniel and I were recently in Barcelona and we learned that the same happened with the city beach (Barceloneta) in ‘92. Thanks for the amazing content!! And congrats for fern!! suscribed 🧡 love from Valencia

    • @57thorns
      @57thorns 9 місяців тому +58

      While the olympics is a huge money sink and much of the stuff built is just left to rot, occasionally some good things do come out of it. Too bad this money could not be raised to clean the river without the olympics.

    • @cwtdos1994
      @cwtdos1994 9 місяців тому +10

      Yes. So many infrastructure projects in LA right now with 2028 goals to meet the Sunmer Olympics.

    • @nutsbutdum
      @nutsbutdum 9 місяців тому +23

      Who's Daniel!??🤣🤣🤣

    • @auralarchipelago
      @auralarchipelago 9 місяців тому +10

      Say hi to Daniel for us!

    • @danmeer9129
      @danmeer9129 9 місяців тому +3

      @@auralarchipelago hi back!

  • @panchora99
    @panchora99 6 місяців тому +1

    I love discovering channels like this one. Really informative and entertaining.
    As a show of support, I let the ads play to their full length.

  • @TheCloudWalking
    @TheCloudWalking 8 місяців тому +3

    This video is on point, a mix of professional presentation, understandable information and humour is always refreshing.

  • @Icemanfreezer7
    @Icemanfreezer7 9 місяців тому +436

    German urban planner here :)
    60% of the german canalnetwork is a mixed system... We need to change that in the near future. Doing so is incredibly expensive though. Also, separate systems come with the disadvantage, that the rainwater won't end up in a water treatment facility, but instead flow straight into the rivers. This might not sound bad at first, but rainwater, especially in urban environments, is contaminated with heaps of things (carbon emissions picked up by rain from the air, litter, tirerubber picked up off the streets, all sorts of dirt transported by air that end up on rooftops, the list goes on). Some cities, such as cologne, have a separate water treatment facility just for rainwater. This is the ideal way to do it and should be the standard. However as I said before, this is an extremely costly thing to do, especially if there's only a mixed system in place. Switching system means digging up EVERY street and reconnecting EVERY house via two separate connections. So yeah, not really something that's done within the span of a year, but rather a slow process that'll be done piece by piece over several years.

    • @actually5004
      @actually5004 9 місяців тому +2

      Are Saudi migrants capable of doing it at all considering they didn't do it in their own country before leaving?

    • @MichaelTavares
      @MichaelTavares 9 місяців тому +3

      Making the city more proud itself so that rainwater can slowly filter down into water table rather than the river being a drain is another way too.

    • @OHHHHUSBANT
      @OHHHHUSBANT 9 місяців тому

      ​​@@actually5004nope, the eurocucks won't admit that letting illegals in to collect welfare and commit crime in mass while simultaneously having enough money to eat out in expensive restaurants and fly back to their home country as vacations spots is a good idea

    • @scorpioninpink
      @scorpioninpink 9 місяців тому +9

      Expensive but is badly needed because of environmental impact and dwindling source of fresh water.

    • @davidmueller3650
      @davidmueller3650 4 місяці тому +3

      ​@@actually5004 What has this to do with migrants at all? Building planners plan seperate rain and used water systems to the street. There diffrent piping systems in the streets are planned by infrastructure planners. According to the tender and plans the system gets build. Companies will mostly use qualified personell. If standards aren't met and the contact gets violated, the building company will be held accountable and has to redo the work until the agreed standards are met.

  • @underarmbowlingincidentof1981
    @underarmbowlingincidentof1981 9 місяців тому +722

    I live in Munich and always thought being able to bathe in the river in the middle of the city was a norm.
    I was so surprised when I went to Paris and Rome.
    Having a swimmable river is such a big thing. Every city if possible should have one. Maybe they could also add a surfing wave like we have in Munich :P

    • @barmybarmecide5390
      @barmybarmecide5390 9 місяців тому +98

      Your comment is so Munich 😂 it's adorable, never change Bavaria

    • @lif6737
      @lif6737 9 місяців тому +29

      Toronto is on a lake, one of the "Great Lakes", and yet I still would not swim in it. I blame the Americans, though

    • @Andrew-gn9qp
      @Andrew-gn9qp 9 місяців тому +52

      @@lif6737 Thousands of Canadians regularly swim on Lake Huron in the summer, which borders Michigan, and it's very clean. If Toronto's lakefront is dirty, the blame is on Toronto.

    • @GreenBlueWalkthrough
      @GreenBlueWalkthrough 9 місяців тому

      I live in Jax Florida US of A and it's the same but then again we are very evomentalo concess people who never let the river fall to such a state.

    • @Skatted
      @Skatted 9 місяців тому +1

      Melbourne has the same issue, no swimming allowed

  • @nik_evdokimov
    @nik_evdokimov 5 місяців тому +1

    As always, great video! Really like your style of doing these videos, both visually and narrative -wise

  • @qsaze
    @qsaze 9 місяців тому +11

    I took part in the Paris triathlon 10 years ago and we, 3000 participants, swam in La Seine right in front of the Eiffel Tower. So far I haven't contracted any strange disease. And my father did the same back in 1985 so although it is fobbed to swim on a normal day, triathlons have been possible in the recent past.

  • @Exoreya
    @Exoreya 9 місяців тому +21

    8:15 "maybe just dont shit in a public river" that had me laughing on the floor

    • @kellenhayes3628
      @kellenhayes3628 Місяць тому

      Yeah, can’t tell who’s shittier: home boat owners, or the Seine?

  • @vladmatsnev
    @vladmatsnev 9 місяців тому +94

    Almost cried from the Fern announcement! I always consume English content and most of them are always so US-centric it is hard to watch. Such a relief to see a Europe-centric channel in English. Thank you for doing this!

    • @torchon207
      @torchon207 8 місяців тому +1

      Yes finally! Enough us content in ytb

  • @laurakruithof919
    @laurakruithof919 8 місяців тому +1

    Yesterday I came back from my first visit to Paris. At first I didn't understand what this video was talking about, because the Seine already looks very clean! Good job, mayor!

  • @tony_mo
    @tony_mo 9 місяців тому +4

    Interesting, thank you! I'm surprised no one mentioned in the comment that the mayor's name is HiDALgo and not HiLDAgo. But the rest of the video looks good and the sources are there, so it has all the signs of good work, thank you!

    • @awesumlili
      @awesumlili 4 місяці тому +2

      I commented it, it was bothering me so much 😅

  • @Inexhausta
    @Inexhausta 9 місяців тому +385

    As a Frenchie, I’m impressed by the quality of this video. Thank you for your incredible work!

    • @Haverlock
      @Haverlock 9 місяців тому +45

      I am sorry to hear about your disability. I will pray for you 🙏

    • @dreamyangel1858
      @dreamyangel1858 9 місяців тому +21

      @@Haverlock Are you from Great Bretain by any mean ?

    • @Haverlock
      @Haverlock 9 місяців тому

      @@dreamyangel1858 No

    • @ThatOneMalaysianGuy
      @ThatOneMalaysianGuy 9 місяців тому +16

      too bad that's an untreatable disease,i give my condolence to you my friend

    • @zergling2621
      @zergling2621 9 місяців тому +11

      My condolences, no one deserves your fate 😢

  • @Makzimilien
    @Makzimilien 9 місяців тому +132

    It is remarkable how fast the production value of your channel is improving. This is amongst the best stuff out there. Keep going!

    • @cphr_
      @cphr_ 8 місяців тому

      my videos are also of this quality

  • @HomeAutoBuddy
    @HomeAutoBuddy 4 місяці тому +1

    What an amazing color scheme and presentation! Good work, very well done.

  • @agathacccc2710
    @agathacccc2710 8 місяців тому +16

    As a Parisian this was very informative , well done! Although your portrayal of Hidalgo is quite kind in my opinion but that’s another subject 😅

    • @Assassunn
      @Assassunn 8 місяців тому +2

      Why don't you like Hidalgo, as major of Paris? she did amazing imo, ofc if you're a heavy car user I can understand your point of view but that's a necessity

    • @agathacccc2710
      @agathacccc2710 8 місяців тому +7

      @@Assassunn not a car owner at all, her car policy is one of the only things I agree with haha
      For me I really dislike some of the amenities she’s implementing (removing some historic furniture and replacing them with ugly ones Imo)+ hasn’t delivered on cleaning up the city. Also the cour des comptes report about the city’s accounts are fucking terrible lmao, just giving money left and right to random “NGOs” owned by her friends who do nothing for the city.

    • @albevanhanoy
      @albevanhanoy 8 місяців тому +1

      @@agathacccc2710 I agree with your concerns but I still think she's the best mayor Paris has had in a long time. She transformed the city in ways that both Chirac and Delanoë were incapable (Or unwilling?) to pull off.

  • @thattobithough7115
    @thattobithough7115 9 місяців тому +56

    Oh man I love the balance between informative and shitpost. It's just perfect. The introduction to the fern channel was made beautifully

  • @Anonymoose66G
    @Anonymoose66G 9 місяців тому +412

    Hey Hoog, I'd love to see videos on urban design and reviewing cities from around the world wether it's because their designed amazingly or terribly, for example perhaps a review of Amsterdam, Hong Kong, Reykjavik, Helsinki, Copenhagen, Barcelona, Montreal, Freiburg, etc.

    • @cia5649
      @cia5649 9 місяців тому +4

      would love to see stockholm too

    • @kloneo
      @kloneo 9 місяців тому +2

      All those old city sewer systems need reform. Just do it, we wont notice it with the extra 200 dollar a year, and the toilet don't overflow. Every time it overflows, the cost to me as a home owner is so much more.

    • @__-rt5tm
      @__-rt5tm 9 місяців тому +3

      >around the world
      >Basically only Europe

    • @broodjekaas820
      @broodjekaas820 9 місяців тому

      I mean, europe just has a lot of interseting cities due to its long history@@__-rt5tm

    • @Anonymoose66G
      @Anonymoose66G 9 місяців тому +4

      @@__-rt5tm Well yeah... Europe has better cities than other places in the world... There either to poor (e.g) India or to capitalistic like the USA for example. Europe has the balance which allows it to develop walkable pedestrian cities. There are a few here and there outside of Europe but by far Europe is the best in this regard. In part due to colonialism and imperialism, it's had a foundation of design and planning for centuries the same cannot be said about The USA for example.

  • @vbeacher5121
    @vbeacher5121 8 місяців тому +1

    I really like your bold language and direct approach on describing delicate situations! keep it up!

  • @jorgeespinosa3179
    @jorgeespinosa3179 9 місяців тому +3

    An excellent video, Hoog! Extremely informative. The world tips its hat to France and the Paris mayor for their bold, innovative plan to restore the Seine River to its original, natural, clean and healthy state. I hope before I die, I can sink my feet into that clean river and read my Camus. Thank you, France.

  • @phillip7731
    @phillip7731 9 місяців тому +66

    Switzerland used to have immense problems with unclean water especially due to chemical dumping back in th 20th century. However we introduced sweeping reforms and laws and today almost all open bodies of water are completely drinkable and swimmable. Even in big cities like Zurich you can literally see the bottom of the Limmat (multiple meters deep) on a nice day.

    • @TheLily97232
      @TheLily97232 9 місяців тому +1

      I'm going there to enjoy the nice Leman lake because of its clear waters 🥰🥰

    • @PhilJonesIII
      @PhilJonesIII 9 місяців тому +6

      @@TheLily97232 It wasn't always clean. All those multi-million houses along the banks (Swiss and French sides) used to dump everything into the lake. That was all changed ( in the 70s, I believe).
      Now you can swim, dive or go sailing in clean water.

    • @AM-cy5nx
      @AM-cy5nx 7 місяців тому +2

      As a Swiss citizen I'd never try to drink any of this water intentionally, but swimming is safe and pleasant that's for sure.

  • @optical_ideas
    @optical_ideas 9 місяців тому +6

    8:06 "but the people onboard, weren't onboard" - made my day 😄

  • @tsunamis82
    @tsunamis82 9 місяців тому +2

    Our closest small town had sewerage and storm water mixed. Homeowners were given a certain date to have their properties separated. After this date, houses not connected would be connected by the council at the homeowner's expense. They are all now compliant. Our wee township had a counsel that had the foresight to build sewerage ponds. The river no longer has untreated sewerage pumped into it and ours has not gone into the sea untreated for many, many years.

  • @garethfullerton9824
    @garethfullerton9824 8 місяців тому +8

    My partner raced in the Olympic triathlon test event 10 days ago. The individual race included the swim in the Seine but the Mixed Relay had the swim cancelled due to "water quality reading discrepancies". I have not heard of any major sickness post the race but it begs the question of whether this is a viable race for the athlete's safety. It is an incredible location and idea but seems to be a largely political and symbolic goal that I hope the French and Parisian government makes alternative plans for the race if the plans are not met.

  • @adamsterdam9049
    @adamsterdam9049 9 місяців тому +44

    They cleaned up the strait in Copenhagen several years ago. everyone loves the swimming areas, a huge amenity for the city!

    • @Skatted
      @Skatted 9 місяців тому +7

      Damn you dans and your efficiency

    • @peterfarell7696
      @peterfarell7696 9 місяців тому +3

      To be fair it's a canal, not a river (sea water, not fresh water). Still a big achievement but it's easier to do.

  • @ThunderbackOG
    @ThunderbackOG 9 місяців тому +9

    Fun Fact: The Seine is not only the most disgusting river in Paris. It is also the cleanest one, the longest one, AND the shortest one.

  • @Bubbleman2k
    @Bubbleman2k 8 місяців тому

    Video animations are great, narration is so casual and I love it.

  • @Theodisc
    @Theodisc 9 місяців тому +4

    I saw a Gallic man swimming in the Seine when I was growing up in Paris in the 1980s, once. He was putting his back into it too. This was right by the Île de la Cité. I remember marvelling at him doing this because the Seine was none too clean.

  • @0NEGUY
    @0NEGUY 9 місяців тому +8

    4:53 that delivery lmfao

  • @herrmanselcher1632
    @herrmanselcher1632 9 місяців тому +46

    Truly inspiring to know that it's just one person creating these videos. Incredible work as always

    • @cphr_
      @cphr_ 8 місяців тому

      I will easily surpass his quality if you keep your eyes open

  • @bluecoke6828
    @bluecoke6828 9 місяців тому

    great video! Happy to see youre working with Simplicissimus. Loved their work for years and now ill do yours too!

  • @camaylive6325
    @camaylive6325 Місяць тому

    I found Fern first then this channel omg im excited that i have more to watch here too!!

  • @wolfenstien13
    @wolfenstien13 9 місяців тому +19

    Bro, I love how honest you can be in your videos. An unapologetic creator is a breath of fresh air.

  • @jtgd
    @jtgd 9 місяців тому +11

    6:00 shit mixed storm water
    That’s a sentence I didn’t expect

  • @JosTheMan1
    @JosTheMan1 4 місяці тому +2

    "The people onboard, weren't on board." Perfect line

  • @lucadefelice9601
    @lucadefelice9601 9 місяців тому +2

    6:30 I really love the way "shitmixed stormwater" rolls off the tongue

  • @Eyodize
    @Eyodize 9 місяців тому +4

    I knew that the high quality videos of fern had to come from another great quality channel. Well, I found it ! I really appreciate the quality of the videos as well as the more European focus. Amazing job, keep going !

  • @dvampofo
    @dvampofo 9 місяців тому +39

    The production of your videos never cease to amaze Hoog. Keep up the good work.

    • @cphr_
      @cphr_ 8 місяців тому

      my production quality is on par just I need to pump out more :)

  • @Renger_
    @Renger_ 9 місяців тому +1

    Your videos are just so awesome! Keep it up.

  • @lepetitchat24
    @lepetitchat24 8 місяців тому

    I came into this video because I was curious about the information, and you had me cackling the whole video through. Thank you so much xD

  • @Harrison.13
    @Harrison.13 9 місяців тому +50

    It's a bit sad to me that the Parisians don't feel the need to connect their boats or houses to the sewer systems.
    Like, regardless of the upcoming Olympics, do you really want the major river flowing though your city to be literally full of shit??

    • @BYROXI5000
      @BYROXI5000 9 місяців тому +10

      The problem is more complicated than that but yes, paris have a huge part of building only for renting with huge benefits but owners don't see why they will pay a price for just a river they don't really care about and who will not make money in the process.

    • @Haverlock
      @Haverlock 9 місяців тому +13

      They're French. Of course they don't care.

    • @BYROXI5000
      @BYROXI5000 9 місяців тому +14

      @@Haverlock no. even other people in other countries don't care. USA can be an great example of that 😂.

    • @Mo-mu4er
      @Mo-mu4er 9 місяців тому +9

      I think they've been offered enough carrot, and it's time to break out the stick.

    • @patrick_test123
      @patrick_test123 9 місяців тому +6

      Pure selfishness. The issue is that they seem to have asked nicely instead of also threaten them with a penalty if they don't connect to the sewer system.

  • @FF08_
    @FF08_ 9 місяців тому +14

    Hoog is always peak content, keep it up man!

  • @BasNunnikhoven
    @BasNunnikhoven 8 місяців тому

    love the humor in the new channel add. Love the channels !

  • @BirdsEyePortugal
    @BirdsEyePortugal 9 місяців тому

    Excellent video. You had my attention the whole time. Congrats

  • @sylviamontaez3889
    @sylviamontaez3889 9 місяців тому +3

    3:19-4:00 damn, im impressed! Now THATS good urban planning

  • @hpsauce1078
    @hpsauce1078 9 місяців тому +32

    This reminds me a lot of the Thames Tideway project they are constructing in London. Here all the overflow pipes are being redirected into a big new sewer tunnel following the route of the Thames but at a depth of 10 or so meters below the river bed.

    • @Coz131
      @Coz131 9 місяців тому +3

      Don't get why they don't do this instead.

  • @sentosaco
    @sentosaco 8 місяців тому

    Ben echt onder de indruk van de kwaliteit van deze video's. Geen idee waarom ik nog niet was subscribed, maar bij deze. Checking out Fern right away. Petje af!

  • @aliabbaspatel3112
    @aliabbaspatel3112 4 місяці тому

    Love these videos and the graphics are amazingg

  • @haisheauspforte1632
    @haisheauspforte1632 9 місяців тому +25

    And once again I am so happy that my city (Kiel, Germany) has had a separated sewage system since 1925. Watching these videos of the sewage problems in Paris or the UK just makes me happy I can swim on our beaches without worrying about wastewater. Only one small neighborhood in the entire city has a conbined sewage system and that one is getting replaced too.

    • @RomNYC
      @RomNYC 9 місяців тому

      I'm french and it comes as no surprise to me. Germans typically know and anticipate best. I'm glad you get to enjoy that!

    • @haisheauspforte1632
      @haisheauspforte1632 9 місяців тому

      @@RomNYC yes, bit not all cities in Germany are like that. Most cities in northern and eastern Germany have seperated systems while most in southern and western Germany don't. That's why Munich or Stuttgart have the same problems as Paris while my city on the Baltic Sea does not. Hamburg and Berlin are also really interesting, they have a mixed system in the centre were they built it first, but have a separated sewage system everywhere else. These cities also heavily invest into storage facilities just like Paris. But as I said, I am glad my city does not have to deal with that stuff anymore. Only one small neighborhood in the north has that problem and since it is only like 20 streets they are separating rhe sewage system street by street there so that in like 10 years or so the entire system in the city is separated, making the already very good water quality in the Kiel fjord perfect once and for all

    • @walideg5304
      @walideg5304 9 місяців тому

      Only 35% of German cities have separated sewage. France rate is higher.

    • @haisheauspforte1632
      @haisheauspforte1632 9 місяців тому

      @@walideg5304 as I said, I am only talking about my city, especially in southern Germany many cities like Munich have the same problem as Paris

    • @ja_u
      @ja_u 8 місяців тому

      @@haisheauspforte1632wdym? Munich has swimmable rivers

  • @smokeyasmr
    @smokeyasmr 9 місяців тому +6

    The mix of such high-quality video production and the casual use of "shit water" is beyond hilarious to me

  • @meleeham
    @meleeham 9 місяців тому

    Super interesting stuff. The excellent visuals were especially helpful in this video.

  • @sirakmelaku3848
    @sirakmelaku3848 8 місяців тому

    The Second you Advert Fern channel and got there and subscribed, that's kind of video I want to see Everytime i visit youtube and thanks for that.

  • @pettxaie1721
    @pettxaie1721 9 місяців тому +3

    Bro 4:48 caught me off guard,10/10 as always hoog

  • @DrownedInExile
    @DrownedInExile 9 місяців тому +20

    Fascinating. I hope this succeeds. In addition to attracting swimmers, I'm sure cleaning up the river would also improve the smell!

  • @Vortecus
    @Vortecus 9 місяців тому

    4:55, okay that caught me totally off guard and made me laugh, love the mix of high quality and professional editing, mixed with humurous narrative

  • @supersaiyandrawing8153
    @supersaiyandrawing8153 9 місяців тому

    They way you edit your videos is super cool. Very entertaining

  • @zeanamush
    @zeanamush 9 місяців тому +15

    Sounds like what Chicago did. Though swimming in the Chicago river is dangerous for different reasons these days.

  • @lucienmoy5621
    @lucienmoy5621 9 місяців тому +24

    Thanks for the great video (as always), I'm glad to know more about the plan my hometown is following, hope they'll make it.
    PS : Just a head's up, her name is HidaLgo and not HiLdago ;)

  • @bellathemusicaddict
    @bellathemusicaddict 8 місяців тому +1

    This prompted me to research the system my city uses, and while we do use a mixed system, we have underground basins that catch the overflow, so that the rainwater mixed with the waste water can be led to the treatment plant later on instead of being led to the river. This way our river is always perfectly clear and swimmable and used by many as recreational area 😊

  • @monkegames7432
    @monkegames7432 4 місяці тому

    Great video keep up the work

  • @arakwar
    @arakwar 9 місяців тому +44

    To get homeowners to connect to the sewer system, give them two options : either connect, or install their own septic system with strict environmental laws. They will all switch to the sewer system as it will cost them a lot more money upfront and over time to get their own system. Plus they'll lost a lot of space as those systems need clear ground to work.

    • @flo__60
      @flo__60 9 місяців тому +1

      that's how it is already for decades

    • @sirBrouwer
      @sirBrouwer 9 місяців тому +6

      the second option does not even work in Paris. most houses will not even have a garden. they would still need to use public space for it.
      Also the biggest challenge is to avoid that they would just go on strike again. This is Paris we talk about. French people are already good at protesting for about anything. But the Parisians are the next level. they will just block the city for weeks if needed.

    • @spaceygnat19908
      @spaceygnat19908 9 місяців тому +5

      Bro thinks forcing people to spend 10k to 20k is gonna make them happy they probably didnt do it cause they dont have money to begin with.

    • @truthsRsung
      @truthsRsung 9 місяців тому

      ​@@spaceygnat19908...What facts lead you to believe that people living in downtown Paris are POOR?
      Please stay in school.

    • @aoki6332
      @aoki6332 4 місяці тому

      @@spaceygnat19908 its Paris they have the money Paris is in the Top 10 of the most expensive city the land is insanely high they just dont care

  • @lcgn
    @lcgn 9 місяців тому +3

    This channel is underrated. Thanks so much!

  • @chrisalex82
    @chrisalex82 8 місяців тому +1

    Excellent videos as always

  • @ExhumedToConsume
    @ExhumedToConsume 8 місяців тому +1

    I love the combination of knowledge, top notch visuals and potty mouth. You got a new fuckin' subscriber.

  • @captainskeleton3994
    @captainskeleton3994 9 місяців тому +15

    Very Impressively presented Sir. I am amazed by the quality and narration style.
    One small point, can there be any way to show depth compared to surface level when showing underground structures? It will be helpful i think.

  • @carina_rainyday
    @carina_rainyday 9 місяців тому +6

    I love how my country is really making efforts to be ecologically responsible and set an example.

    • @SlavTiger
      @SlavTiger 9 місяців тому +1

      @@morgannull4685 we really need more people with that perspective. too many just say nothing to be done about it, which is simply and absurdly untrue.

  • @nikoladelerue1000
    @nikoladelerue1000 8 місяців тому +2

    Amazing video as always. The only thing tickling the ear is your pronunciation of "Hidalgo" as "Hildago", but this only stands out so much because the rest is perfect.

  • @jakegarvin7634
    @jakegarvin7634 3 місяці тому

    Still 5 month later and I'm still seeking this video out solely for that ferntv plug...hands down best channel drop I've ever seen

  • @TheodorRiegger
    @TheodorRiegger 9 місяців тому +8

    I hope this comes true. It would be such an important step in the right direction!

  • @paunalexutzu4078
    @paunalexutzu4078 9 місяців тому +97

    I value the content, and considering the nature of the channel's material, the term "shit water" truly scratches my brain when I hear it in this context. While I grasp the challenge of segregating sewage from rainwater, it's important to recognize that”shit water” harbors not only bacteria and germs but also other substances. For example, excluding human feces from toilets , we have pollutants from the kitchen or other household appliances where grease and other substances can break down over time, releasing toxins that are detrimental to human health. 🤔

    • @Broockle
      @Broockle 9 місяців тому +10

      To get the point across you gotta call it what it is 🤣

    • @Serpillard
      @Serpillard 9 місяців тому

      NEEEEERD

    • @ollythomas6702
      @ollythomas6702 9 місяців тому +30

      Every time he used the word shit it kinda made me cringe. Felt like a young kid who was finally allowed to say it in front of his parents so had to get it out as many times as he could.

    • @Broockle
      @Broockle 9 місяців тому

      @@ollythomas6702
      good

    • @peperoni_pepino
      @peperoni_pepino 9 місяців тому +7

      @@ollythomas6702 If I may ask, are you American? Because I suspect this is mainly a difference between how the word 'shit' is treated in the UK (and hence the Netherlands) versus the USA.

  • @yedidyamilner-gillers549
    @yedidyamilner-gillers549 8 місяців тому

    THIS IS SO WELL MADE I LOVE THIS

  • @badpiggies988
    @badpiggies988 8 місяців тому +1

    In the mid to late 20th century, Seattle cleaned up Lake Washington significantly (there used to be tons of industries eutrophicating the crap out of it) and now it’s so clean it has edible fish like landlocked salmon and rainbow trout once again; the ongoing rewilding of creeks and rivers that drain into it also helps, as will the fact that increasingly-common river floods in the winter have made their banks significantly less attractive places to develop and then build houses on, encouraging further rewilding projects. We are also working on a more effective drainage system to combat what are now yearly November floods and worsening rain storms during the 8 months of non-summer we have, so that our drains don’t back up and make our waterfront too toxic to swim in every time there’s torrential winter rain. And these tunnels will be more likely to survive the impending mega-earthquake we’re a few years overdue for than our current sewage system

  • @beatboxersleepingman
    @beatboxersleepingman 9 місяців тому +5

    Hi, im from Singapore, and talking about cleaning rivers, you should look at PM Lee Kuan Yew's mission to clean the SIngapore River and actually achieved it!:) All these without the technologies that you just described:)

  • @nederlandas
    @nederlandas 9 місяців тому +6

    if he had said "waste water" id be like okay, but constantly saying "shit water" just made me giggle the entire video

  • @SLIMP3Y
    @SLIMP3Y 8 місяців тому

    The dedication into this. Gold.

  • @BerserkSurvival
    @BerserkSurvival 9 місяців тому +2

    1:50 "But to also make videos for people who live in Europe but consume English content"
    UK has left the chat
    All jokes, loved this video!

  • @CocoHutzpah
    @CocoHutzpah 9 місяців тому +6

    I don't know how long these kinds of projects take. Considering what the Monongahela river used to be and how it is now, I know it's not completely unfeasible.

  • @huquui8789
    @huquui8789 9 місяців тому +5

    Great videos, great humor, great analysis, great images !
    Big fan of your chanels.
    As a young (french) european, i feel pretty connected to you.
    As i feel we're sharing the same vision on the world.
    Plus, i'm a fan of dutch infrastructures 😅
    PS: as a french i must correct you, you're pronouncing Hidalgo's name wrong, you're saying Hildago.

  • @julien.le.createur
    @julien.le.createur 9 місяців тому +1

    Dude, how many beautiful 3D scenes and camera rigs and exports have you done. That’s crazy haha. That’s so much work and the video is beautiful. How do you get all this done, especially the exports? Are you using Blender or something else?

  • @saranbhatia8809
    @saranbhatia8809 8 місяців тому

    Great initiative!

  • @SpareMango
    @SpareMango 9 місяців тому +6

    This video is hilarious, not sure how intentional that was, glad to hear Paris is making a strong effort to turn things around

  • @jasonx5292
    @jasonx5292 9 місяців тому +2

    Thank you for using the word shit. I know it sounds ridiculous but it was brilliant when you said storm water & shit water; there are a lot of info channels on yt but you've definitely stood out from the rest to me because of shit water 🤣 liked & subbed!

  • @KarpucMotoring
    @KarpucMotoring 9 місяців тому

    Your animations are so good

  • @rsKayiira
    @rsKayiira 8 місяців тому

    Excellent episode. I just liked and subscribed

  • @MrGnorts
    @MrGnorts 9 місяців тому +6

    To think that all these insanely costly plans could've been avoided if only there was rational action earlier

    • @johansmifthelry9307
      @johansmifthelry9307 9 місяців тому +3

      it's not a question of rational action. When the sewage system was built in Paris it was one of the most advanced and forward thinking in the world. Times change, rationalism changes with it

  • @Sopsy_Hallow
    @Sopsy_Hallow 9 місяців тому +3

    i wonder if cleaning the river would really make it any more swimmable, i live near antwerp and while our river/canal isnt exactly that clean either, you're not allowed to swim in it mainly because of undercurrents and things like that. it might look calm on the surface but the water can drag you down and put you in loops that are almost inescapable and you'd drown
    im not sure if the parisian river would also have those issues, but i cant imagine the problem being purely just "it's dirty"

  • @walker1054
    @walker1054 8 місяців тому

    Very good video. How do you do the 3D city view? I've seen some videos on some ways to do it including official google methods but which what process did you use? Just the software used would be great enough. Thanks