If those who don't know: In cases where people have the same exact role, the player who joined the lobby first is given higher night priority. However, for witch, the later witch gets control of their target because they overwrite not only their target's first target but also on other witches who attempts to control them.
So if you are witch (earlier player) pitting against another witch they have their advantages against each other witch are: 1. If both witches control each other, you will control the later witch's first target. This means you will control the witch into someone you want them to control. (In a very rare case of you controlling witch into yourself, you will be witched but you will not do anything because you have already used your night action controlling the witch. You will not even visit the witch's second target since you have visited the witch to control yourself. Difficult to prove because this needs a tracker to confirm this interaction which Tracker and Witch cannot be in the same game) 2. If both witches control the same target, the later witch gets control of their target.
I think it's because they have voting power, where 1 witch wouldn't be able to up anyone, but if the jailor were to misjail then the game could've drawn or something
One of these days I’m going to take all the knowledge I’ve gained through osmosis in these videos to the actual game, but for now I continue to enjoy comfy PipeTron gameplay
@@raechel381 I used to be good thanks to shadowbeatz in 2018 when jailor meta was at its peak and made it 1900 elo. unfortunately I fell out of love with the game because I was playing it so seriously and eventually quit. came back in 2021 and only play casually now (if I do play, which isn't often)
"If more than one Witch wants to control a target, the Witch who entered the lobby last will be able to take control. The controlled target will be notified with the same message if multiple Witches attempt to control them." -ToS wiki
Interesting. Witches can confirm a 2nd witch exists in All Any, it helps a witch understand why their ability didn't work, and it's balanced out by the target being informed. Looks like Transporters aren't informed, but they both end up transporting targets in a big clusterfuck (see Wiki)
I was Spy in that witch game, no clue how I wasn't lynched as a Spy in a no Maf or Coven game lol, but 9 really got to me in the end, I thought he was gonna ruin it for town Edit after watching: I realized I was arguing with you about the 3v3 or 4v2 situation, I am glad I was able to watch your perspective and see how you were thinking in the end LMAO
Tbh I kinda thought you were evil, just due to the fact that spy is the easiest thing to claim there, but no,you were just the most unlucky soul that game.
Those games were both kinda cursed, with witches controlling the same target for so long, and game not ending due to some werid stuff, second game has any mafia and jailor dying n1 due to cl having the best luck, followed by being lynched, followed by 5 being healed kinda guaranteed the game for mafia. Also the legitimate surprise in your voice when you saw 15 was "survivor" lmao
Recently had that message twice in one game. Also wasn’t aware that was even a message. The other witch and I managed to find eachother and had fun working together almost managed a witch only win
i thought i had to wait for more than 1 minute for the advertized "highlight" i was wrong but these r so entertained still watched the whole video. Keep it up man.
I admit, i finished the video, did a few chores etc before realising that 2 witches can win the "townie" way of voting off people until it's just the two witches left.
... Actually i guess that's why a witch doesnt auto lose if there's only a vig left and plenty of town... if you can convince the town to keep voting people up until there's only 3 people left, you will win.
Day 365 of tracking D1 survivor claims. And there it is! One year! Thanks to you all, I will keep it going! Total Real D1 Surv Count: 91 Total Fake D1 Surv Count: 98 Total Unknown D1 Surv Count: 5 Total Survivors Who Did Not Claim D1: 69
Oh yeah, I got that. On the worst game of my life- I think I told you before, but i was a witch that won with evils, knew who the other witch was- and voted them out anyway. Because I was 9. And didn’t connect the dots. That they were the witch. They were a really good sport about it, but I’m still absolutely mortified, 6 years later. They even acknowledged they should’ve said something.
I think if there are 2 witches (honestly even 1 witch is sufficient) AND a town killing then the game won't end. Jailor with executions is town killing and it was still possible although unlikely for a witch (or 2) to force jailor to execute a townie if jailor jailed one. So my guess is that the game would auto-end the moment jailor has no executions left.
The reason all your attack didn’t have priority is because the other witch must’ve joined the game later than you and town of Salem give priority to the witch that joined last
@pipetron - would it be a good play (as witch) to control maf/coven to each other to get a Spy/town confused on who is who because weird spy will? BTW been watching forever, so glad to still see ya playing TOS. Hope all is well with you!
Well, witch can’t be in a game with coven so definitely not that however yes, especially controlling framers onto other maf in a confirmed spy game. Makes the spy info that much less reliable and gives cover if a sheriff/invest checks them
It is definitely a rare message since it requires at least 2 witches both being on the same target and there is always a witch that physically can’t get that message in the lobby (later join has priority on this one so they won’t ever see it)
i have an answer about when 2 witches alive and game hasnt been ends, so jailor have exe and still killable so when a killing role alive then witch also can kill somebody
I've actually gotten this message in classic AA. I got screwed over because the ww ended up killing me after I tried helping them im not good at town of salem ^^;
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Bruh that poor werewolf felt like reconsidering his existence after getting mind warped by 2 witches
Gotta say I am a bit disappointed that in the "Mario but misspelled" game no one went for the obvious:
It's a me... "Mafio"
If those who don't know:
In cases where people have the same exact role, the player who joined the lobby first is given higher night priority. However, for witch, the later witch gets control of their target because they overwrite not only their target's first target but also on other witches who attempts to control them.
So if you are witch (earlier player) pitting against another witch they have their advantages against each other witch are:
1. If both witches control each other, you will control the later witch's first target. This means you will control the witch into someone you want them to control.
(In a very rare case of you controlling witch into yourself, you will be witched but you will not do anything because you have already used your night action controlling the witch. You will not even visit the witch's second target since you have visited the witch to control yourself. Difficult to prove because this needs a tracker to confirm this interaction which Tracker and Witch cannot be in the same game)
2. If both witches control the same target, the later witch gets control of their target.
@@unknowed5048 ty
I had no idea a double witch game wouldn't auto end, that's the weirdest thing. Wonder what's the logic behind that.
Probably so if there's 1 person and 2 witches, witches don't auto loose
Witches can still win if there is 2 of them
They can witch vig
@@jaidengabriel1675 even if there isn’t a vig the witches could vote the rest of the town out
I think it's because they have voting power, where 1 witch wouldn't be able to up anyone, but if the jailor were to misjail then the game could've drawn or something
That, “THIS GUY WAS SURVI-, oh wait nvm.” was golden. 😂😂
One of these days I’m going to take all the knowledge I’ve gained through osmosis in these videos to the actual game, but for now I continue to enjoy comfy PipeTron gameplay
I'm so good in knockoff town of Salem (aka Roblox) because of Pipetron
Meeee lol
I used to be so good at this game but now I just watch UA-cam vids of it to help me fall asleep at night
@@raechel381 I used to be good thanks to shadowbeatz in 2018 when jailor meta was at its peak and made it 1900 elo. unfortunately I fell out of love with the game because I was playing it so seriously and eventually quit. came back in 2021 and only play casually now (if I do play, which isn't often)
"If more than one Witch wants to control a target, the Witch who entered the lobby last will be able to take control.
The controlled target will be notified with the same message if multiple Witches attempt to control them."
-ToS wiki
Interesting. Witches can confirm a 2nd witch exists in All Any, it helps a witch understand why their ability didn't work, and it's balanced out by the target being informed.
Looks like Transporters aren't informed, but they both end up transporting targets in a big clusterfuck (see Wiki)
Is the “no stream tap to retry” the rare witch message?
Same I got that
Same
He hearted this, That must be the message
No it’s at 1:06
@@raechel381 r/whoosh
I was Spy in that witch game, no clue how I wasn't lynched as a Spy in a no Maf or Coven game lol, but 9 really got to me in the end, I thought he was gonna ruin it for town
Edit after watching: I realized I was arguing with you about the 3v3 or 4v2 situation, I am glad I was able to watch your perspective and see how you were thinking in the end LMAO
Tbh I kinda thought you were evil, just due to the fact that spy is the easiest thing to claim there, but no,you were just the most unlucky soul that game.
Those games were both kinda cursed, with witches controlling the same target for so long, and game not ending due to some werid stuff, second game has any mafia and jailor dying n1 due to cl having the best luck, followed by being lynched, followed by 5 being healed kinda guaranteed the game for mafia.
Also the legitimate surprise in your voice when you saw 15 was "survivor" lmao
It’s nice when Pipe uploads
*Edit: Y’all can just go to UA-cam on your browser and the video works*
Recently had that message twice in one game. Also wasn’t aware that was even a message. The other witch and I managed to find eachother and had fun working together almost managed a witch only win
I was the Squeeze the ret, and literally as soon as I rolled ret I knew I would get lynched.
That other witch man... way too late to communicate and killed the Sk. Also prevented the mayor from being executed...
I happened to watch this live on my first live stream. It was yesterday. This dude uploads constantly! Thank you Pipe!
pipe i’m stuck at home with covid so binging your videos is one of the few things helping my boredom!! love and appreciate the daily content sm man
i thought i had to wait for more than 1 minute for the advertized "highlight" i was wrong but these r so entertained still watched the whole video. Keep it up man.
Witch games are fun to watch
gotta love the “no stream tap to retry” message
This is a rare message indeed
Thank u i was extreextremely tired and idk what it is but your voice is just so soothing and I got some sleep
I was 13 in the witch game I thought you saying 3v3 to try and confuse us I didn't realize you were the one confused lmao
I admit, i finished the video, did a few chores etc before realising that 2 witches can win the "townie" way of voting off people until it's just the two witches left.
... Actually i guess that's why a witch doesnt auto lose if there's only a vig left and plenty of town... if you can convince the town to keep voting people up until there's only 3 people left, you will win.
Day 365 of tracking D1 survivor claims.
And there it is! One year! Thanks to you all, I will keep it going!
Total Real D1 Surv Count: 91
Total Fake D1 Surv Count: 98
Total Unknown D1 Surv Count: 5
Total Survivors Who Did Not Claim D1: 69
Nice
Holy
One year!!!
UA-cam has been witched to see this rare message: “No stream Tap to retry”
Pipe has taught me something new today.
Scratch that 2 new things.
The other witch needed to communicate sooner, then they could have coordinated.
Oh yeah, I got that.
On the worst game of my life- I think I told you before, but i was a witch that won with evils, knew who the other witch was- and voted them out anyway.
Because I was 9. And didn’t connect the dots. That they were the witch.
They were a really good sport about it, but I’m still absolutely mortified, 6 years later. They even acknowledged they should’ve said something.
Dude mayor predicted thier own death on day 2.
I think if there are 2 witches (honestly even 1 witch is sufficient) AND a town killing then the game won't end. Jailor with executions is town killing and it was still possible although unlikely for a witch (or 2) to force jailor to execute a townie if jailor jailed one. So my guess is that the game would auto-end the moment jailor has no executions left.
I bet the first person to choose control is the one that takes priority
Commenting before watching: Hmm, rare Witch message? I... don't actually know this one (maybe because its RARE!).
We learn new things even now.
I am too late... no morning cereal with pipetron for me...
Dang, 2 witches make for some weird games...
The reason all your attack didn’t have priority is because the other witch must’ve joined the game later than you and town of Salem give priority to the witch that joined last
As someone who prefers regular all any compared to coven all any I’ve seen this message twice
at night 4 i was like make the jailor exe the mayor, he probably jailed him to protect him! But would not have matter because of other witch. :/
Huh, so it seems like a 2v2 between two witches and two non killing townies would be a never ending stalemate?
It would tie after 3ish days though right?
@@aidansherry17 Right yeah, ig I forgot about that
@pipetron - would it be a good play (as witch) to control maf/coven to each other to get a Spy/town confused on who is who because weird spy will? BTW been watching forever, so glad to still see ya playing TOS. Hope all is well with you!
Well, witch can’t be in a game with coven so definitely not that however yes, especially controlling framers onto other maf in a confirmed spy game. Makes the spy info that much less reliable and gives cover if a sheriff/invest checks them
GG Great video as always :) - Brim
"rare witch message"
the message show up every night, i don't know how i should feel about this lmao
It is definitely a rare message since it requires at least 2 witches both being on the same target and there is always a witch that physically can’t get that message in the lobby (later join has priority on this one so they won’t ever see it)
was literally watching another one of ur vids
i have an answer about when 2 witches alive and game hasnt been ends, so jailor have exe and still killable so when a killing role alive then witch also can kill somebody
0.44% chance for N1
That's insane
you both chose players who didn't speak D1 so that's really 11 instead of 15, but that's still 0.83%
I thought priority for these things were first to join the lobby? So it must be random.
This game was so fun lol, I was once Thick but I am Thick no longer
Hey pipe, random question but do you plan on making more traitors in salem or bloxton mystery videos?
man just left you on read
I think the first game doesn't have enough neutral killing roles, should add another SK
Lmao just saw this message today in AA of all modes, ended in a win
I got the message just yesterday lol. It helped me win the game.
The rare message is that "the target your controlling is being controlled by another."
"So thick"
these thumbnails gettin interesting bro 😂
idk y pipe trying to use jailors execute as witch, im pretty sure only CL can do that
does anyone else find it weird Pandagamer1175 or Zelted is always whispering pipe the games they are in or is it just me?
Before they made witch immune to rb/witching I had a game where the trans made me rb myself 😭
Question: I once had the message that I was controlled twice - but there was only a CL in the game and no other witch. What does that message mean?
Most likely you were visited by CL and Hypno, because Hypno can cause the Witching message.
hypno
Thought so too. But No Hypno or witch in the Game.
Psychic has a glitch where it sees the witching message twice. You were probably psychic when it happened.
Wait so for the game ALL GUILTY and GUILTY ALL is the same message? EDIT: Also I love that dude 1 coven when it's the godfather XD
Wasnt the game still alive because jailor could exe?
What is this game mode and how can I play this
Nice
No no stream
I've actually gotten this message in classic AA. I got screwed over because the ww ended up killing me after I tried helping them
im not good at town of salem ^^;
Yo
Last game is a prime example as to why BG absolutely sucks in this game.
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