The Strongest Tornado That Wasn't Rated EF5
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This is the full story of the Rochelle Tornado that happened on April 9, 2015. This tornado ripped through the Cherry Hills subdivision and went on to impact the north side of Fairdale Illinois. The tornado was given an official rating of EF4 with maximum windspeeds of 200 mph, which was extremely controversial because the EF5 rating starts at 201 mph, just one mph faster. This means that the Rochelle tornado is officially the strongest tornado that wasn’t rated EF5.
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Did the Rochelle tornado deserve an EF5 rating?
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yes it did so did the myafiled, the 2013 el reon and 2024 greenfield
no buts, YES
I feel like this and the greenfield tornado both deserve ef5
Still can’t believe how calm Sam was when that chunky swirl of wind passed 100 feet away from him. I’d be shitting my pants seeing that even if it’s from a mile away.
I almost did just watching that video
@@OliverRhodes-i7f😂🤣
I’m on the toilet right now and that footage helped me a lot
@@theproatthegame6160😂😂 that clip is top 5 craziest tornado clip imo
It’s looks like it’s inches away there’s no way that’s a whole mile
This tornado, the Ringgold Ef4 from 2011, the 2010 Bowdle EF4, and the 2024 Greenfield tornadoes were clear examples of tornadoes that should've been rated EF5. imho
Ringgold is never talked about, but that tornado produced some of the most incredible damage to homes I have ever seen .. tbh I'm not too upset with the NWS on that one because they had their hands full from the rest of the outbreak.
Can't forget elreno as well. It had 302 mph winds.
@@highriskchrisYeah they were easily overlooked during that chaotic event. The New Wren, Ms Ef4 from that outbreak could’ve been another possible Ef5. Great video as usual! Keep em coming!
@@eamonwright7488That was an EF3 actually
@@eamonwright7488 there was a home completely wiped off the face of the earth from the new wren tornado that no one talks about.
Sam Smith was less than 50 yards from the heart of that thing and only said "damn, that's crraazzyy".
For a minute I thought it was Sam Smith the British singer. 😮😅
None of us even those of us that saw the original clip knew that was supposed to be a legendary almost ef5
That clip went viral for a reason back then and had no context
His angle was crazy
so was I in 1967 in oak lawn I said don't look now I think we are about to be killed wow look at all those trees!!!
He sounded more mad then scared of the tornado 🤣
Guy literally was just chillin next to the core, sounding like Owen Wilson 🤣
I had NO CLUE that the tornado in the Sam Smith footage was the same one that Clem Schultz recorded. Those two videos have been my go-to for showing people the scary power of tornadoes, and I frequently revisit them. RIP to Geri Schultz and Jackie Klosa.
@@MrTrout33 wait no way
So that really was an EF 5 then
I don’t date them based off well built economic homes I base them off destruction to a 40+ ton building that can’t be lifted by a human and snatch your ass out the basement
That’s EF5
The greenfield tornado was freaky too
@@Justmeandjesus19 Indeed! Taking down wind farms like they were trees.
@@MrTrout33and crumpling windmills weighing 400,000 pounds like paper
Scary stuff
The craziest part of Clem’s video is hearing the “freight train” sound get louder and louder as the tornado approaches. Watching his original video with the volume way up is absolutely terrifying.
I’ve done that too. It literally sounds like an approaching 747
It maxes out the audio and just sound like ripping and silence.
i know, right?! it shakes me to my core, i never knew the name but like - it definitely terrified me because that noise is so, so loud.
Recorded sound can never equal the experience itself. The sound gets into your body, you very bones resonate and you cannot hear yourself scream. - that is the best description I've heard from 2011 Phil Campbell.
I don’t know this man but will never forget the name because of his video. I personally haven’t lived through a tornado even though we get warnings more and more often these days and I am terrified of them. I’ve always heard about the infamous train sound but until I saw his video I didn’t realize it was the actual whistle of a train that you will hear. I was imagining something different. A lot of people questioned how he was just standing there recording but I listened to him breathing and in my very unprofessional opinion I think he might have been frozen in fear. You can’t say what you would or wouldn’t do in that situation. There’s not many options.
I survived this tornado. I was coming down 251 before it hit Grubsteakers. There was some people going inside to eat and I yelled at them to take shelter and showed them the wedge heading their way. You would be surprised how caught off guard some people were by it. Before this happened the mindset of the area was that a huge tornado like that would never hit here.
Sadly a lot of people in Illinois think like that, unaware of the state's storied history with violent tornadoes.
@@Early90sBabyIt's probably due to how many false warnings we get like the rest of the Midwest
Ngl, I live in Northern Illinois and either completely forgot about this tornado or was completely unaware even though I don't live that far from Rochelle lmfao
I survived El Reno’s when I was visiting my aunt? But yeah that was scary. I remember seeing this on the news. 1 month before our house burnt. We are originally from South Carolina . Thankfully we are all okay.
Hell I graduated from RTHS, and never thought a tornado would hit there either. I was living in the Northern Suburbs of Chicago at the time and didn't actually believe it until my family told me. They live in Waterman IL which is about 25/26 miles SE of Rochelle.
Ever since this happened, I'm now very aware that it CAN happen there, and it CAN happen in my parents town too. (It can happen in mine as well, but I live in a rural lake town now. Such storms tend to go around us because of the lake)
I love how calm Sam Smith was. "Wow, this is crazy" as a tornado passes RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM. I would freak out for sure 😧
Dude was calmer than 99% of storm chasers seeing a funnel cloud.
@@TNS17 real LMAOO
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Seriously no idea how he was so calm. That’s legit one of the most intense adrenaline dumping moments that can happen to a person yet bro was just chilling calmly saying “that’s scary” what an animal
@@kx65andyx85rider ong like bro, I need some of his calmness. I would of been STRESSING
9:00 that tornado was big but sam’s balls were bigger
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he was held down by the weight of them lol
Definitely would've had to change my underwear after that
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5:00 as a car guy, that porsche looks amazing and im happy it lived
Lol same
lol same
That's exactly what I was thinking 😂
its the chosen one
Jeremy Clarkson showed just how nigh unbreakable and indestructible that model of Porsche 911 is so no surprise it survived the tornado with almost no damage lol
i still don’t understand how the guy survived on the second floor while his wife passed away taking shelter
Same reason how we have images of pound cakes on kitchen counters or the whole kitchen looking untouched but everything else in the home is destroyed by a tornado:
Winds act weird.
house likely collapsed, he was higher up less debris on him.
From what I remember the stairs he was walking down at the time saved him, created a small cavern from the rubble
Midwestern things 😅
@@cbass04 no i know that but if the tornado was so strong wouldn’t it have just wiped out the whole house
I was a Senior at Belvidere North High School when this happened. I remember the following day, me and my friends all packed up in my little Hyundai with bottled water and tools and went down to help with the cleanup. The sheriff had Fairdale under lockdown so only certain cars could get past Kirkland. And since we weren't red cross or "official" cleanup personnel, we weren't allowed in. We opted to help a couple of farms to the north and, the following days, helped with the animals at the Summerfield zoo.
That's one of the things I really miss about living in Illinois. The sense of community was unbreakable. It was like half the stateline area went down to help without even being asked.
Okay you mentioning that high school really makes me realize how close this was. I've been to that school in my freshman year for volleyball so the fact that you drove there means I was fairly close too
U guys are awesome for doing that 👍
One of the most photogenic wedge tornadoes over the last decade. The fact that this formed from an HP supercell and was still this visible and clear is amazing. I think this tornado, Goldsby 2011, and Chickasha 2011 are the three I'd nominate for the "should've been an EF5" club.
Don't forget elreno and greenfield. Both had measured winds over 300mph that were completely ignored.
what about tuscaloosa
@@HoosierHerpvertebrate only greenfield could've done damage to possibly warrant ef5.
you should make google doc for that. half of it would be 2011 tornadoes I bet
@@HoosierHerpvertebrateEl Reno wouldn’t count any day. Tornado was weaker then what people think it is (strongest winds were contained within the orbiting sub vortices which were the size of the average tornado by that time). Greenfield had it hit more well built homes could have been an EF5 however it was starting to enter a cycle when it hit town so it might have weakened since
I still want to know why weather officials are scared to rate a tornado an EF5. What’s so controversial about giving a tornado its deserved rating?
They aren’t “scared”, it’s just there’s a very high standard for a tornado to get EF5 and those are determined by a team of regional wind engineers, not the NWS. Anything above EF2 is marked for a QRT team to review for damage higher than EF2.
New Wren for example never got EF5 cause the survey teams were overwhelmed and couldn’t reach its most severe damage in time.
@@KaiserStormTrackingIn time a.k.a. before it was cleaned up?
Fujita wasn't as picky as he would rate rate extreme ground scouring as an F5 on the original F-SCALE. The only reason why homes are used in rating tornadoes is because the big insurance companies don't want to pay out for damage rated EF5.
Insurance companies
The reason we are getting less and less EF5 rated tornadoes is because building practices are getting skimpier. The tornado can have 1,000 mph winds and it will never be rated any F5 unless it encounters a ""well-anchored home""
….this was a great recap of the Rochelle tornado….I just want to add that when the tornado left cherry hill, it continued to wipe out my family’s 8 farm buildings …sparing the farm house and my parents lives. Unfortunately they did not have video because they headed to the basement when my brother saw the tornado take the barn and silos. We were so blessed that it spared lives and so many friends,family and community came to our aid. Keep up the great work with u-tube videos. You did a great job. ❤
Im from a small town called Kingston, about a 15 min drive from fairdale and Me and my father were driving home to take shelter and from 10 miles away, you could see this tornado, Ill never forget it, it was absolutly massive. I was only 15 at the time but remember it like it was yesterday
this tornado claimed my horse’s life in fairdale. i hope she knows how much she was loved.
rest easy to your angel, know she is running those fields in horsey heaven 🫶
Aww, Im so sorry. Losing a beloved furry friend is hard. She knew ❤
I'm so sorry 😞 😢, I am SURE she knew ❤ how much you loved her and always will.
As a horse lover, I am so sorry to hear :( It hurts losing a pet that is also a friend, family member :( I didn't like hearing about dogs losing their lives in the video either :/
Sorry to hear about your horse !! Close pets are just like family to many,me included
I was actually on the phone with my cousin earlier and we were actually talking about this tornado, because he lives in Byron, IL which is only like 20 minutes west of Fairdale. He told me how the next day, he and his dad were called by their church organizations as they were rounding up people to help out with the cleanup efforts. He said my uncle even took a photo of a spoon that was driven halfway into a tree. What's even crazier is that this tornado wasn't terribly far from the Byron Nuclear Plant.
Great video as always Chris!!
byron people are assholes
The tornadoes rated on the edge of EF5 like this one - need to have their individual characteristics considered and used that to determine which it should be. While the track and general wind conditions are looked at it looks normal - seeing things like the concrete slab walkway should have pushed it just over the EF5 rating. Hopefully they’ll finish making the new scale I’ve been hearing about for years soon
Totally agree, well said
At the end of the day does it really matter? Doesn’t change the outcome. Very scary no matter what rating.
@timcoleman3421 i argee!
@@highriskchrisfr
My dad lived just south of the Dickies right across the street from the VanVickle house. The house was destroyed. My sister's wedding dress, my grandpa's flag and my grandma's glass angels remained untouched. Fortunately, my dad and stepmom weren't home. They were out of state. They never actually saw the condition of the house, outside of pictures. With the help of many amazing volunteers, we were able to clean it up before my dad made it back. I remember packing up the salvageable stuff in the uhaul when someone came up to me and asked, "Are you Jeramy?" I stated yes, and they handed me my birth certificate. My dad didn't recall even having a copy of my birth certificate. My dad's nice camper completely disappeared that day. I will never forget that day or how exhausting the days that followed were. I am thankful for all the wonderful people that helped out. I don't have too much faith in people, but the events that followed showed me there are still some good people out there.
I'm so sorry for what your family endured. I can't even imagine. I actually graduated from RTHS in 2006, so I have ties in the area, and I remember reaching out to several friends as i learned of what happened. (I was living in the Northern suburbs at the time of the tornado)
Anyway, I know of the Price family in Rochelle. I'm just curious, was it Mark Prices' home that was also destroyed, or would you know? (I ask because I dated his son for several years when we were teens, as I graduated from RTHS in 2006). I haven't had much contact with them since 2007 when Nick (Mark's son) and I broke up, so that was well before the tornado. I just never saw the names of the peoples homes destroyed before this video, 9 years later. And I admit, it shook me a bit because I used to be very close with the family. And if memory serves me correctly, I think that was the general vicinity of where he built his house back in the early 00s.
@user-so4ks4vm3y Thank you! I was class of 98. You were a few years behind me. Mark's house was just south of the tornado's path. It is possible he may have dealt with some wind or hail damage. I had softball hail at my house in Kings. I was able to see it on its way to Grubsteakers. I hit the basement when it looked like it was heading down Kings Road. It was super amazing seeing the community come together to help. I felt so blessed to have so many friends and strangers help.
I've seen the video of the guy in the car many times. His calm panic always makes me chuckle.
The tornado definitely spotted that Porsche and thought, "Yeah, that's nice, I'll leave that be." 😂
AYEEE My little cousin Derrick @3:00 , That video is beautiful cousin good job!!
8:44 bro was staying so calm but i bet you he was shitting his pants
If I was in that situation oh I know I would have tbh seeing that thing up close and personal ain't no way I would be calm
He’s very clearly not calm. He knows how dangerous of a situation he’s in, but i don’t think his brain was fully able to comprehend what was going on, so it knew it was in trouble but instead of reacting with screaming it instead just sat back and watched the carnage happen.
I live in Rochelle and know many of the families in this video. This was a terrifying time for our area but also an incredibly unifying one afterwards.
Extremely well done video, bravo 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I’m in Malta. My office is near O’Hare and my boss at the time was a bit of a weather nut. He sent me home early. He said they were reporting it heading direct for us, obviously missed by 10 miles. Thank goodness for me.
I used to live there well before the storm, and graduated from RTHS in 06. I still had friends I checked on out there, as I was terrified when I learned what happened. I did drive that way less than a week later and made monetary and supply donations myself as Rochelle will always have a apecial place in my heart. I'm so glad yall were able to recover and rebuild ❤ #HubCity
I am from this area and let me tell you, that is a day that I will remember for the rest of my life. The one thing I will remember the most from that day is laying on my couch and looking at our front door just seeing the humidity piling up on the door in the early hours of the day. There is never a day like that in April in Northern Illinois. The way our community came together was truly special, and I feel like our community is still close because of that day.
I've become addicted to tornado videos. Yours, by far, is the most thorough, amazing, documented video. The satellite mapping is awesome with the locations of the tornado, the camera person and the after effects totally rocks! Thank you!
You can really see how fast the tornado is going! That security camera footage was short but you could see the strength. Scary but interesring!
There was a truck driver who saw it coming, stopped around grubstackers and made it into the basement as the tornado hit. I drove the route of the tornado a fee days later and couldn't believe the level of damage. Huge trees were ripped out by the roots. Fair dale was devastated.
One of my candidates for F5 was the 1999 Loyal Valley TX F4. The nearby NWS office stated that the tornado rivaled that of the BC-M and Jarrel tornadoes. It also ripped a section of asphalt off a nearby road and cattle were disemboweled beyond recognition. F5 considerations were made but the buildings were found to be of lower construction quality. Yet the damage experienced there is very close to the warranting of an F5 rating.
I agree like, if wasnt an low quality constructed buildings, it would be an EF5 for sure but, another tornado that should been an EF5 was the June 21, 2023 EF3 tornado that struck Matador, TX, the cars and houses damage images is unreal, and its the same case of the Loyal Valley F4, Low quality built homes, for sure that tornado would be an EF5 it did strike well built homes.
That tornado is basically an EF5. Any F4 tornado is essentially an EF5 by default.
I wonder if any photos/footage of this storm exist.
Bakersfield Valley F4 ripped three 180,000Ibs oil tanks and tossed them for three miles before rolling two 600 feet up a very steep hill
@@dieterdelange9488 No known photos/video of this tornado or storm exist, only horrific damage images.
Great recap. Myself and Charles Russell were behind it on 64 when it struck Grubsteakers, luckily we had a police car pull out in front of us miles to the west prior to reaching the intersection. We had no clue until the next day that building was a restaurant. Continued moving NE until we were blocked by a tree south of Fairdale, where we watched the satellite begin in the field next to us. Definitely a life changing day.
Wow! Thank you for sharing your experience too.
Going off of just wind speed alone, the El Reno 2013 tornado should have been an EF5 with sustained wind speeds of 296-302mph, but based off the sheer luck of it location, it was on placed at an EF3 rating
10:07 When i first saw the video, i was living near rochelle. (this was before the tornado.)
so when my mom got a call from one of her friends, they told her about the coming tornado (it was a video call)
she saw and heard her drive frantically away from faredell. *edit: MOM IM BECOMING FAMOUS*
Yeah it was a pretty wild tornado. I live in Dixon, and work at Crest, and we had to take cover in the lower section of the other building in Ashton.The building we were in was mostly unscathed, but the second facility (Crest Foods Warehouse) outside of Franklin Grove got nailed. Glad nobody was injured.
Footage at 8:39 is insane.
It's still the scariest thing I've lived through. We were in our basement in Fairdale when this came through. Our garage blew into the house we were renting next to the old brick school building. They ended up dozing it due to foundation damage. It was a horrible and scary experience.
Still can’t believe Greenfield IA wasn’t marked as EF5
I agree
Damage it didn’t on the surface seemed EF5 but the engineers that went out didn’t find anything markable as EF5 is my guess. It’s the engineers who determine how well built a home is after all, not the NWS themselves
@@highriskchrisi don’t know what the nws thinks about not giving tornadoes an ef5 rating, a lot of ef4s such as mayfield, greenfield, tuscaloosa, etc. i don’t know how tornadoes like this doesn’t get ef5, mayfield, this one, tuscaloosa, we’re probably stronger than greensburg, and the fact that the last ef5 is over 11 years ago is absolutely absurd
I know people say wind speeds has nothing to do with it but it's low-key funny how every ef4 that people thought should have been an ef5 didn't have winds exceeding 200mph
@@not_kjbhow do you know that ? The wind speeds are estimated by NWS. Nobody knows the actual speed. Unless radar records and confirms it. Greenfield in terms of wind speed is an EF5. But damage estimates were EF4. Scale needs to be tweaked
I grew up in Rochelle... it went maybe 1/2 mile from my parents old house. Grubsteakers is an amazing restaurant. They rebuilt, but they lost a lot. There were photos of Rochelle and Ogle County from when it was first built, and they're all gone now.
10:14 I didn’t know this was the same tornado in the viral video!
This was an awesome documentary. This is one of my favorite tornadoes to study. Because you go from a narrow stub of a tornado with a very low wall cloud. To a drillbit tornado with a large high-based wall cloud and photogenic mesocyclone. You can even see about a couple minutes before transition, the inflow tail abruptly change level. As for controversial EF-5's, people always leave out Chickasha and Newcastle May 24 2011. Those two were incredibly powerful! Wish I could link up damage pictures, but youtube hates links.
This is an insane Tornado R.I.P to all the victims of this tornado.
Greenfield has 310+ mph winds. That’s in the top 3 highest winds sooo.
I did some research into Greenfield, and holy hell. The initial search will tell you the wind speed was only 185 mph, which places it in EF4 territory. Then plenty of other sicentific sources confirm 300+. Why in God's name is the media/government lying about tornado violence now!? That's insane to me!
I work in statistical measure development -- my problem with the EF scale is it lacks consistency. It does not measure tornado intensity the same way across time, amd also, it is incomparable to the F scale for EF3+. These are major and unforced scientific errors. They could have designed the EF scale so that, while its wind estimates were more accurate, it assigned tornadoes to 0 through 5 at roughly the same distribution that the F scale did -- this would have made It possible to (roughly) compare tornadoes across time, even across the F-EF transition. Secondly, they should have enforced much more standardized implementation of EF grading across time. As you show, it currently leaves a ton to the individual graders' discretions. And to be clear, with new understanding it's often necessary to update your measure -- but with each update, you need to rerate EVERYTHING you previously rated, or label it as a mew measure (EF v1.1, etc), or else the measure is unusable because the standards change over time. In other words, if you rate Rochelle EF4, you may need to downgrade Greensburg to EF4, too -- or at least clearly state that they were graded with slightly different scales. Lastly, they're needlessly leaving information on the table. Why do we have to wait 30 years to incorporate radar information in tornado intensity? It's less reliable than ground damage in some ways, but far more reliable in other ways!
@jamesdowell5268
This got me thinking
Would they rate say Greesburg an ef5 today as compared to 2007?
If not then we have a flawed system
@@Michael-sb8jf
Yes. Yes they would. They would not look at a tornado that leveled 95% of the town it hit, and not give it EF5.
This took place in my home county. I come from Oregon, but spent a lot of time in Rochelle and the neighboring communities that took a direct hit. Thank you for covering this event with such scientific detail
I was only 12 when this happened but I still remember so much about this day. I was watching the weather channel all day because I knew something was gonna happen based on the forecast. When I saw this tornado on tv I knew it was bad. I was texting my uncle, my cousin, and my brother about it because at the time I was so fascinated with the weather. One of the earliest tornadoes I remember hearing about and seeing in the moment.
8:10 Uh... Don't mean to argue with you or UA-cam's video recommendations but... I think this is probably the most evil tornado...
Why?
A strong second place contender. The most evil tornado I've ever heard of was the Jarrell Texas nightmare.
We could probably all suggest different tornadoes. I recall both the Plainfield in 1990, and Joplin in 2011.
@@kennethanderson-co7fw true, but Jarrell's tornado started off looking like the devil's tail when it was a drill-bit and then MASSIVELY slowed down when it grew to a massive wedge over a small subdivision as if it had something against the people there. Horrifying deaths including asphyxiation and a piece of lumber through someone's back as it sandblasted other people down to the bone.
That was a tornado from hell.
10:24 felt like i was watching a movie. The fact that when you hear a freight train sound when you aren’t near a railroad is terrifying and you know you’re cooked.
I actually visited GrubSteakers back in April during a storm chase They spoke to me all about how the rebuilding process went and how scary it was for most of the employees, they have tons of pictures and stuff on the walls of the tornado. It was truly a heartbreaking experience
imo, 2 of the most iconic tornado footage ever recorded on this planet came from this tornado... the Clem Shultz video is just insane, POV of getting swallowed into the pits of hell. And Sam's video captures the entire ef5 tornado missing him, if he was 10 yards closer he would have been sucked into that monster..
Man i am a survivor who lived in the starting point of the storm at the time and i just wanna say even at the beginning it was probably one of the most beautiful and scary things ive seen in my life
This tornado is, in my opinion, probably the most beautiful tornado documented in modern times. Something about the way it was so visible, the wedge with the mesocyclone draped over the top making it look like a mushroom, it's a cool sight. On a bit of a brighter note, after the tornado, Clem Schultz was at least reunited with his dog Missy, who the people of Fairdale then considered the 'Miracle Dog'. From what I can tell Clem is still alive too, though apparently Missy sadly passed a few years after the tornado after being hit by a car. Rest in Peace to Geri Schultz and Jackie Klosa.
Thanks, I should have talked about Missy but it didn't fit into the script.
the rochelle tornado has always been my favorite tornado, the videos are always creepy, unerving, and also crazy cool with how the shots are placed, and the fact it wasent rated a ef5 was also quite weird.
Mine too. Illinois tornadoes are the coolest, I'm from the Chicago area so I may be a bit biased ha
The video of the Rochelle tornado that Iram Favela recorded is my favorite lol. The siren ambience adds to the creepyness. m.ua-cam.com/video/PQI39-v3fZc/v-deo.html
the criteria for a tornado to be EF5 should be changed to 189mph, that way we aren't adding confusion when an ef4 happens but cant do ef5 damage, and rochelle, mayfield, and rolling fork all become rightful ef5s
Couldnt imagine something like this happening where i live.
There's lots of tornadoes that should've been given ef5 ratings. Elreno at 302mph winds measured yet they gave it ef3, and the greenfield iowa tornado from earlier this year that had measured winds tied with those of the 1999 bridge creek moore tornado at 318mph. The weather service is a joke at this point.
I guess insurance companies really do not want to pay out lol
There's a reason their not rated ef5 it's because they didn't do enough damage to get it, mabey learn about how their rated before saying stuff like that, it doesn't go off wind speed it goes off damage
@@JosephCostanza-sw4fkmultiple tornadoes have been rated ef4 whilst having ef5 damage, it’s insurance companies trying to lower the amount of payment and surveyors being extremely picky about what is considered ef5 damage.
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El Reno didn’t have 302mph winds nor did it hit any well built homes. The 302 winds it briefly attained were from one of its multiple tornado sized orbiting sub vortices while the main tornado itself was weaker.
Greenfields EF5 winds were recorded above the surface (radars, even DOWs struggle to record winds below a specific height due to how Doppler radars operate) and it was a weakening tornado by the time it hit greenfield entering a cycle. It was briefly a twin to a nearby tornado that formed to its north. The damage it did wasn’t consistent to an EF5
The tornado that formed right after Greensburg KS likely was stronger than the Greensburg Tornado. But because it did not hit anything significant it wasn't rated well.
As someone who lives in Northern Boone county this hits waaaay too close to home 💀
All this time, a HIGH END ef4 came close to my area and I didn't know until like 6 months ago...
Man...
I’ve eaten at Grubsteakers a few times. I remember this day well. I was a UPS driver, retired now, about twenty miles from there. The weather was so intense even that far away that I took shelter in a fire house. It was one of only two times in 30 years that I seemed shelter. I have family in Ottowa near where the tornado hit. Fortunately their home was untouched.
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@@Harlanvr12but the ear buds were cool did you get them?
I definitely think the NWS should give this tornado a proper reanalysis. There is no way they completed a full survey on a tornado of this magnitude within 4 days, they absolutely missed context clues they could use to discriminate high end EF4 damage and EF5 damage, especially at the Haedt family home.
Just looking at the photos, there are, 1: No standing trees close to the house, 2: No shrubs near the home, 3: Ground Scouring around the home, and 4: The Damaged Foundation + the broken walkway that was dragged through the ground. All Context clues to support an EF5 rating
Chris, I really like your coverage and analysis. Your video overlay with before and after is just awesome. Keep up the good work.
Thanks, I will!
Wow… my heart broke I have family in IL and they didn’t pass away but seeing the damage it did and the 2 lives taken made me shed tears hard!
This proves that whoever rates tornadoes for the Enhanced Fujita Scale either drank too much, or doesnt know what they are doing.
Uhh what? It’s not a handful of people, there’s been thousands of people who have rated tornadoes and 99% of them have done fantastic jobs. Fairdale was rated incorrectly, it was rated to high, it should’ve never been EF4/200
@@lildashboi There are more tornadoes that deserve the EF5 scale nowadays.
@@notsilv3r there has been 4 tornadoes I believe deserve EF5
Vilonia
Mayfield
Chickasha
Goldsby
No other tornadoes at all. On top of this I genuinely understand how tornadoes are rated
10:00 that sound choice there gave me genuine chills with the tornado getting closer. Clem must have assumed he was as good as dead so he wanted to record it.
I lived in ashton & worked at Crest Foods at the Time of this tornado and you actually have some of the information wrong. The tornado did not form before the crest foods warehouse.The tornado actually spawned on top of the warehouse making it no time to react for people inside. The weather communication system failed for the warehouse and the main plant so Nobody was notified about the severe weather until it happened. 2:48
I want to thank you for doing this for our city.Our town is infatuated with your video, love your videos
Which town? Rochelle or Fairdale? Thank you!
10:47 bro wtf how did he servive while doing nothing but his wife doing the right thing didnt
Less Debris fell on top of him because he was on the top floor, I think that's why he survive and his wife didn't
I lived in the neighborhood that was very first hit by this tornado. I just want to say that this was an excellent video. It was very well produced and informative, and I learned a lot about the details of this storm.
8:05 Terrifying 😮
As someone who lives in Northern Illinois, I am shocked at the ef4 rating. I don’t remember this tornado, but I was told by my mom we went in the basement and we didnt get hit (it was far from us but we got the warning) and the reason I don’t remember it is because, I was turning 3 in a few months when it happened
several wrong things in this video but still a crazy tornado
In my opinion, I’ve chased and seen multiple storms over the years. I was chasing in my college town of Cookeville when an EF4 rated at 175 mph but it absolutely wiped out multiple subdivisions and passed just a mile and a half north of campus. Aunt was affected by the ringgold EF4 as it tore right through her neighborhood as well as chasing the Easter tornado in Chattanooga which I believe deserved to be an EF4 as it blasted one of the most populated areas in town.
Love your channel bro
Wow! Thanks for putting this together! Over the past few years I’ve come across all these individual clips never realizing they were all of this same tornado! It’s so amazing how different a tornado can look based on your perspective. I remember finding the footage of the bright white tornado a year ago and had no idea it was the same tornado in the footage taken by Sam Smith and Clem Shultz!! At 3:30 it talks about something I’ve always wondered, when it shows a mesocyclone rotating around the funnel, is that considered part of the tornado when they measure its size, even if that part isn’t on the ground? Sometimes you see them say “2 mile wide tornado” but what’s on the ground doesn’t in fact look to be that wide at all
Yes, those winds are considered part of the tornado, but the most violent deadly winds occur in the core of the tornado.
Wasn’t El Reno 2013 300+ mph and only an EF3?
True, albeit it passed over open fields when it was at EF5 intensity. By the time it hit buildings, it had weakened to 3.
Those winds were not from the main tornado but one of its orbiting sub vortices and not at the surface either
No offense. It's a great video. But Sam Smith? He had over three minutes to escape that storm. He sat in the worst possible place and is the luckiest man alive. Although his video is one of the best tornado videos ever shot, you have to wonder what was going on in that guy's mind. If I was sitting there and didn't know which way the storm is going, I would know that it is coming directly at me. And his background as a police officer with support having a more logical decision-making process in the face of grave danger. Notably, if he would've driven at the speed limit he would've missed the tornado by over a mile. Anyway, I'm just saying… Another wicked direct hit where the videographer survived: Kris Lancaster, Washington Illinois tornado. Finally, I have subscribed to your channel and liked the video. I think it is one of the best and most thoughtful narrations I have ever seen. Bravo!
I pretty sure the national weather service just doesn’t want to wait an EF 5
This was likely just like any other tornado warning in Cherry valley/Rockford that night, just 10 miles from changing so many more lives, including my own. It feels surreal, almost 10 years later and it still scares me how easily this could've become so much more fatal
Yo can you chase a tornado
Yes I can
I can't tell is this is sarcasm or a genuine question.
Yo I didn't see you comment@@highriskchris
10:01 i’ve seen that video before, I did not know it was for this tornado specifically, I think it was one of the most terrifying videos I’ve ever seen, just somebody recording out the window right at a tornado as it gets closer and closer and closer until all you here is things breaking. It feeds my morbid curiosity of what happens when you keep staring at your death as it comes barreling towards you.
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The reason the tornado looks white at 6:24 is because that shot was filmed from the other side, where the sun is shining on the debris. Whereas the other shot was from the back, the debris blocked the sunlight.
5:27 BRUH THE NAME OF THE HOUSE
u gotta be 15 tops
Ur a child
@Yourlocalyoutuber13you as well
Grow up
Bro grow up it’s a name
Born & raised in the south, been fascinated by tornadoes since I was a kid. This channel is the modern day version of the "Most Destructive Tornadoes Caught on Tape!" VHS's that I used to watch over & over decades ago. Super underrated channel, keep up the great work!
8:55 that is the most sarcastic "Scary" 😭🙏
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I live in a nearby town, and one of the reasons that it may not have gotten an EF-5 is that it really did go through mostly fields. My mom's family is from Rochelle, and some still live nearby. I went to see some of the damage with my dad, and was amazed at how quickly the Red Cross, Salvation Army, and other volunteer agencies got there to help clear debris and go through those fields looking for peoples' belongings.
I was driving south on i39 in the semi. When the warning came across my phone, living out of state i had no idea what county i was in so continued on had some hard rain and wind but when the mud started to hit the windshield i figured i had better stop. A matter of minutes and it had passed i started rolling south a short distance to come upon a rolled over truck i was able to take one photo of the tornado to the east. When i got to i88 and turned west i saw many vehicles stopped taking pictures to the north not having any windows in the sleeper i was unable to see what they did but i found film of my truck and the second tornado behind my field of vision im glad i slipped in between unharmed. Almost caught the greensburg ks tornado also when i came upon that one it had already passed but traffic was being detoured around town on my return trip a few days later roads were open and the damage was staggering. The power of nature is amazing.
This was by far the best tornado footage because this guy kept his cool when 99.9. 999 % of people would've ducked, even his breathing was even, he was either a psychopath, suicidal or the bravest soul I've ever seen.
That was one of the scariest tornadoes i've ever seen. If we ever get one like that in Rogers Park Chicago there would be epic devastation. Thank you Chris for the video.
I live on the Wisconsin/Illinois border and it was crazy having had such a monster tornado this far north in the Midwest. Some of the greatest tornado footage of all time was taken from this tornado.
Just watching this after an EF1 tornado passed by my house yesterday. Nobody was injured, but this makes me realize how powerful tornados are! Wow. Stay safe.
I am surprised this monster isn’t even rated an EF5, it literally swept off a house off its foundation.
I remember that day like it was yesterday. I remember my classmates in middle school talking about how there might be a tornado, considering we were under the 10% hatched tornado zone, and of course, me being a weather enthusiast, I was on edge the whole day. I remember the day being unusually humid for early April, a strong indicator of severe weather later in the day. I knew there would be some tornadic activity that day, but not a borderline EF5! My cousins, along with my aunt and uncle, live in Davis Junction, only a few miles west of Fairdale, and they went to Fairdale the next day to help clean up the damage. I live in a town north of Rockford, and we only got some wind and heavy rain with that messy storm complex behind the Rochelle-Fairdale supercell.
Seeing that tornado just casually pass in front of the house on that security footage is absolutely terrifying, but admittedly the angle makes it look like it’s just out for a walk down the road. Felt like a horror game watching the big bad monster walk right past your hiding spot without noticing.
this tornado being an ef4 is actually crazy
I worked on a harvest crew back in 2011. We hauled a set of combines from Holyoke, CO to Kingfisher, OK. The wind was pretty high and NOAA radio was saying that the chances for a tornado were pretty high. We rolled in to Kingfisher and pulled in to a campground along the N-S highway in town, and while we unloaded the combines the state patrol pulled up and told us to get under cover. We quickly offloaded as the funnel was forming up above us and storm chaser were racing around. It was the single craziest thing I think I have ever done in my life. We off loaded and jumped in the truck and raced down to Eischens Bar in Okarche as we were hungry and figured the tornado would pass. While we were eating there was a lot of buzz about the tornado but we didn’t think anything of it. Turns out it touched down not far from where we were and it was pretty wild. The next day we drove the path and it was the most scary and awe-filling thing I’d ever seen. Oil rig platform ripped out of the ground. Houses wiped away. Cows in trees. Power lines gone. Train tipped over. Saw a combine that had been in the path rolled 1/4 mile down the field. It was rated an EF5 and I have to say, it was totally terrifying. I feel for these people when this happens.
I remember seeing the tornado from my grandparents' house's driveway in Ashton. First time seeing a tornado in person. Was probably 3-4 miles away from me heading towards Rochelle at the time.
Was visiting my grandfather up there that day, we watched it amplify quickly in the distance. That storm truly ignited my fear & fascination with tornados. My grandfather said in all his years in the area he never saw something as scary as that.
I thought tornadoes that cleared homes off their slabs like this were rated EF5? That’s crazy…
i remember when this happened
this was on my birthday and by the time the party started it was all over the news
i opened presents to footage of this thing and im actually surprised i never decided to look into it whenever i first got into tornadoes a few years later
This tornado had DI's at 200 mph, just short of the 201 mph qualification for an EF5. It just seems so weird that they wouldn't just give the EF5 rating, because the damage was there. Also, the Vilonia EF4 also had some incredible damage, and imo, was an EF5.