This movie had the lovable Walter Matthau as a loathsome cynic and the comedic talents of Dom deluise showing some serious dramatic range. Even the great j.r. Ewing showing his human side. And Henry Fonda being... Henry Fonda. Such great acting!
Great observations. I was interested to see the same thing. It's as if they cast the actors contrary to type. E.g., by that time Matthau already had an established reputation for comedy. Similarly in Strangelove actors like Sellers also were comic actors -- but this is to really highlight the dark side of the story.
I read this book as an 8 year old. Then at age 9, saw the movie. Even that young it made a long-lasting impression on me. My father was in the Navy, and we saw him go off with the invasion force of Marines during the Cuban Missile Crisis - then we saw him off with three tours in Vietnam. My young life was steeped in the Cold War, and the proxy wars within it. I remember very vividly the ending of this movie. For me it wasn't 'this might happen', it was 'when will this happen?'
I saw it on tv for the first time in 1978 when I was 21. I'd heard of the movie but had no idea how it ended. I was speechless. I went on a date the next day with my girlfriend and could barely hold a conversation with her. I read the book twice and I now have the movie on dvd. The first time I showed it to her (she's now my wife) she was speechless too. One hell of a thriller.
In the beginning of your 'clip', the gentleman Walter Mathau, is debating, is Mr. Dana Elcar, aka "Col. Lard", from "Baa Baa Black Sheep" later "Black Sheep Squadron".
Yes, that is true. Long before Matthau appeared in comedy roles, he portrayed a loathsome fellow in "The Kentuckian" (1955) and a helpful assistant to Patricia O'Neil in "A Face in the Crowd" (1957), which was Andy Griffin's screen debut.
I was 14 in 1964. I can’t explain the anxiety we went through as kid’s living in fear of Russian attacks. School drills. People were digging bomb shelters. There were air raid sirens on street corners. That’s why when Vietnam happened, we thought we were fighting the spread of communism. It’s easy to look back in present day and criticize the events and war, you had to be living in those times to truly appreciate it
I grew up on the West Coast. Nobody had any anxiety or bomb shelters.We did have drills in school. Same as fire drills. The TV pumped out anxiety, I guess, but it was just entertainment. We thought it would be horrible to be bombed, but we weren't really afraid of an attack.
Vietnam was a false flag conflict. Remember the "Gulf of Tonkin Incident"? A horrible mistake which costs over 50,000 young American lives! One would think and hope that we would learn from our mistakes but it seems that It is the "Doom of Men that they Forget"... The Gulf of Tonkin incident (Vietnamese: Sự kiện Vịnh Bắc Bộ), also known as the USS Maddox incident, was an international confrontation that led to the United States engaging more directly in the Vietnam War. It involved both a proven confrontation on August 2, 1964, carried out by North Vietnamese forces in response to covert operations in the coastal region of the gulf, and a second claimed confrontation on August 4, 1964, between ships of North Vietnam and the United States in the waters of the Gulf of Tonkin. The original American report blamed North Vietnam for both incidents, but further investigation suggested that the dismissal by Department of State and other government personnel of legitimate concerns regarding the veracity of the second incident was used to justify an escalation by the U.S. to a state of war against North Vietnam.[5][6][7] On August 2, 1964, the destroyer USS Maddox, while performing a signals intelligence patrol as part of DESOTO operations, was claimed to have been approached by three North Vietnamese Navy torpedo boats of the 135th Torpedo Squadron.[1][5] The North Vietnamese boats attacked with torpedoes and machine gun fire.[5] One U.S. aircraft was damaged, three North Vietnamese torpedo boats were damaged, and four North Vietnamese sailors were killed, with six more wounded. There were no U.S. casualties.[8] Maddox was "unscathed except for a single bullet hole from a Vietnamese machine gun round".[5] The National Security Agency originally claimed that another sea battle, the Second Gulf of Tonkin incident, occurred on August 4, 1964, but instead evidence was found of "Tonkin ghosts"[9] (false radar images) and not actual North Vietnamese torpedo boats. In the 2003 documentary The Fog of War, the former United States Secretary of Defense Robert S. McNamara admitted that an attack on the USS Maddox happened on August 2, but the August 4 Gulf of Tonkin attack, for which Washington authorized retaliation, never happened.[10] In 1995, McNamara met with former Vietnam People's Army General Võ Nguyên Giáp to ask what happened on August 4, 1964, in the second Gulf of Tonkin Incident. "Absolutely nothing", Giáp replied.[11] Giáp claimed that the attack had been imaginary.[12] The outcome of these two incidents was the passage by U.S. Congress of the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, which granted U.S. President Lyndon B. Johnson the authority to assist any Southeast Asian country whose government was considered to be jeopardized by "communist aggression". The resolution served as Johnson's legal justification for deploying U.S. conventional forces and the commencement of open warfare against North Vietnam. In 2005, an internal National Security Agency historical study was declassified; it concluded that Maddox had engaged the North Vietnamese Navy on August 2, but that there were no North Vietnamese naval vessels present during the reported incident of August 4.
@@stevebishop9468 exactly. Kruschev said it in 1962. He said the US will never be defeated by a foreign army. We will destroy it from within. And they have. I’ve the past 30 years they’ve infiltrated schools, university, government. Every time something would happen people like myself would say hey…. Do you see what they’re doing? And most would just laugh and call you a conspiracy nut. Very few people in this country are aware of what has happened and what is going on. It’s a carbon copy of Maos 1949 takeover of China. Exactly. But keep them fat and happy and watching football, all most give a shit about until it’s too late. Now people are asking how did this happen? How??!! It happened while your ignorant fat asses were swilling beer and watching football that’s when. Most don’t even know what they’re kids are learning in school. Sheep. Who just go along with the crowd
I saw this for the first time in summer 1965 when I was 17. Portions of it are line for line from the novel. It remains my all time favorite. One of the reasons: No music. I believe it’s one of the greatest decisions the late Sidney Lumet or any other director ever made. Every performer from Hank Fonda to the go-go dancer was at their best. Even the uncredited people gave us a remarkable look at the hair-trigger tension that was the Cold War. I don’t think there is a movie on the planet that can outdo that. One of my online security answers is “The Translator”.
“System of safeguards and controls insure [sic] that occurrences such as those depicted in this story cannot happen.” And yet 15 years later almost exactly this happened when a training program was accidentally loaded onto the active computer at NORAD. Hubris will be our downfall.
How many of us want to be like Professor Groeteschele? How many of us have turned into him? Becoming the very thing we hate. Once in a while I rewatch this movie to remind myself who I want to be. I hope to aspire to be more like BG Black. He is what America should be or strive to be. Now we're surrounded by cravens and radicals from all sides. America has too many Groetescheles, Gradys, and Cascios.
The one thing this movie missed the mark on and did so as to scare the crap out of everyone, was that bombers have always been recallable up to the moment of weapons release. The Fail-Safe Point was where the bombers would loiter while awaiting orders to proceed to their targets. Recall could be transmitted any time before or after they reached that point. Recalling a bomber is why the Air Force created the DynaSoar (dynamic soaring) program that gave us the X-15 and eventually the X-20 had the program continued. The idea was to develop a manned spacecraft that would have the speed of an ICBM and carry a nuclear weapon but be recallable up to the point of releasing the weapon over enemy territory. ICBMs cannot be recalled. Once launched there is no turning back.
Operation Pluto was the researching and design of a large, supersonic, low-level flying missile, probably using a nuclear engine, that would fly between several targets, firing small nuclear weapons (city-sized) up high enough to do more damage. This was designed not to be recallable.
@@stevetheduck1425 Yes it was but the whole concept on paper and to the keepers of the purse strings, congress, was one; keep our nuclear deterrence untouchable and two; scare the crap out of the USSR. It was a doomsday weapon. Not only will we drop bombs on your cities but destroy them as well with the supersonic shockwave while flying a Mach 3 at low level. Then just to rub salt in the wound, when its mission was complete, take the empty missile and dive it into a city or military base irradiating it to make it unlivable for thousands of years. The whole thing was a farce, and the generals knew it would never be deployed. If they even tried, the USSR would have been left with no other option than to gamble on a first strike. It's development however did advance nuclear propulsion systems research big time. Research that otherwise would never have gotten any funding.
At the Fail-Safe point, the bombers needed explicit confirmation to proceed. If they were unable to receive this confirmation as a result of Soviet jamming as postulated in the film, they would not proceed with a bombing mission.
"...such as those depicted in this film can not happen." Of course not, they don't HAVE to happen like this film. An accidental nuclear detonation is considered by many to be inevitable.
It was diligent of the filmmakers to explain the 5:30AM time line at the party by having one of the characters compliment Groeteschele's spell-binding intellect. With a little more time to think about it, they could have made that scene even more believable by showing one guest dozing in a corner, and ties undone on others. In fact, everybody except Groeteschele (and maybe that socialite) could have been visibly bedraggled and heavy-lidded, with only him still as natty, fresh and fervent as the night before.... it would have reinforced his fanaticism. The socialite could have stayed sharp because she had her own strain of fanaticism driving her. :-)
incredible observation regarding the 530 AM/bow-ties still crisp... i always too wondered how an all-night chat-fest would still have attendees still fully buttoned up-- And still with wine glasses in hand... Your redux would make the scene 110 pct perfect, but this movie is virtually top notch otherwise.
who would let the convicts out from their solitary confinement after the guards and warden evacuate? Most likely, they would rot and die of starvation while still being locked-up.
I guess the choice would have been to kill them all or release them. If you're in charge of the prison do you want to abandon it and try to find your loved ones or do you want to keep it as your home base. Imprisoned convicts would just use up resources. Or if everyone else was dead, what's left to keep the murderous bastards from just walking out?
If enough damage was done possible the confinement system would be damaged as well allowing prisoners in solitary to escape. Would take a bit of luck but it is possible
The character itself is the one truly unbelievable thing in the movie. Matthau's character belongs in Dr. Strangelove. I would have preferred George C. Scott in Matthau's role, with more sensible writing.
@@OroborusFMA Walter being Walter worked 99.44 times out of 100. But now you make me think of his audition for the role of JCS Chairman General Buck Turgidson, USAF. I truly shouldn't, you know.
You look at this, and despite it's acting and gravitas, Stanley Kubrick's "Dr Strangelove" is the film that is remembered more than this, sometime satire has more impact than drama.
It almost did happen on three occasions, stopped only by an astute Russian general. There was the Able Archer provication and at least two instances of false alerts from their IR launch detection satellites.
The damned UA-cam algorithm threw this at me and now I have to watch it again. Dr Strangelove won the nuclear holocaust competition of the 60s in my mine because it treated the subject with absurdity whereas Fail Safe took things seriously. But hell, it has Dom Delouise and Sidney Lumet so it’s a pretty powerful 2nd.
It's interesting that AI is addressed by Mr. Knapp whos company supplies some of the equipment at the Omaha base. We are now entering a time when AI will be operating on it's own, autonomously without any checks and balances.
The book was better. I liked the Vindicator bombers. They were the prototypes of the B-1. The Soviets thought they would win any nuclear war. Their ICBM silos had the ability to reload. Ours don't!
I don't think the Soviets ever thought they could win a nuclear war. They thought we thought that. They thought Reagan was trying to build a first-strike capability. Read about Able-Archer, the NATO war exercise in 1983 when the Soviets thought we were preparing an attack. Eventually Reagan realized that the Soviets were as scared of us as we were of them. And, assuming you are correct, what's the point of "reloading" a missile silo afterward; what else are you going to destroy? But our bombers never had the capability that the book and movie showing the Vindicators having.
@@marcschneider4845 - The Soviets until the end, had extensive Civil Defense training and the ability to put every person into a bomb shelter. They even had farm equipment stored underground to replant after a nuclear exchange. The idea of re-arming a ICBM site is to have a sufficient 2nd strike that they would immediately be the only nuclear power after a full exchange. And what abilities did the Vindicators have that the B-1 didn't?
Yes they did. Particularly in the beginning of the Cold War, when the US suffered from the missile and bomber gaps. The Soviets did in fact have reloadable tubes. I dont know about our former Titans. But i do know the Minuteman silos were a one and done thing. Because missile just burns everything up and of course the blast door just blows off. Didnt know that about the Vindicator bomber. I thought the FB 111 was born from the B58.
The aircraft featured in Failsafe are Convair B-58 "Hustlers" - the name was changed to "Vindicators" for the movie as the word "Hustler" was deemed inappropriate. The B-58s were designed for high-speed (supersonic) and high-altitude missions - at least initially. When the Soviets introduced relatively sophisticated SAMs, the days of high-altitude missions ended. The General Dynamics FB-111 was introduced to replace the B-58s as SAC's primary strategic bomber. FB-111s flew at low-speed (subsonic) and low-level (terrain-following). The B-58s never saw combat whereas the F-111s (the non-strategic cousin of the FB-111) flew numerous missions late in the Vietnam War (and in future conflicts). FB-111s were eventually replaced by the B1-B Lancer (as the B1-A program had been cancelled by President Carter).
This movie had the lovable Walter Matthau as a loathsome cynic and the comedic talents of Dom deluise showing some serious dramatic range. Even the great j.r. Ewing showing his human side. And Henry Fonda being... Henry Fonda. Such great acting!
So much better than today's movies.
Great observations. I was interested to see the same thing. It's as if they cast the actors contrary to type. E.g., by that time Matthau already had an established reputation for comedy. Similarly in Strangelove actors like Sellers also were comic actors -- but this is to really highlight the dark side of the story.
Henry Fonda is always Henry Fonda. The guy from 12 Angry Men got elected president.
I read this book as an 8 year old. Then at age 9, saw the movie. Even that young it made a long-lasting impression on me. My father was in the Navy, and we saw him go off with the invasion force of Marines during the Cuban Missile Crisis - then we saw him off with three tours in Vietnam. My young life was steeped in the Cold War, and the proxy wars within it. I remember very vividly the ending of this movie. For me it wasn't 'this might happen', it was 'when will this happen?'
What an amazing experience for such a young boy. Thanks for sharing this
You and everyone else.
I saw it on tv for the first time in 1978 when I was 21. I'd heard of the movie but had no idea how it ended. I was speechless. I went on a date the next day with my girlfriend and could barely hold a conversation with her. I read the book twice and I now have the movie on dvd. The first time I showed it to her (she's now my wife) she was speechless too. One hell of a thriller.
Great back and forth between Matthau and O’Herlihy. Excellent writing.
Best film ever.
In the beginning of your 'clip', the gentleman Walter Mathau, is debating, is Mr. Dana Elcar, aka "Col. Lard", from "Baa Baa Black Sheep" later "Black Sheep Squadron".
I forgot what a great dramatic actor Walter Matthau was when given a serious role....
Yes, that is true. Long before Matthau appeared in comedy roles, he portrayed a loathsome fellow in "The Kentuckian" (1955) and a helpful assistant to Patricia O'Neil in "A Face in the Crowd" (1957), which was Andy Griffin's screen debut.
Not much like Morris Buttermilk, huh?
Walter Matthau's voice when he is talking at the "party" sounds eerily like Rod Serling.
I was 14 in 1964. I can’t explain the anxiety we went through as kid’s living in fear of Russian attacks. School drills. People were digging bomb shelters. There were air raid sirens on street corners. That’s why when Vietnam happened, we thought we were fighting the spread of communism. It’s easy to look back in present day and criticize the events and war, you had to be living in those times to truly appreciate it
I grew up on the West Coast. Nobody had any anxiety or bomb shelters.We did have drills in school. Same as fire drills. The TV pumped out anxiety, I guess, but it was just entertainment. We thought it would be horrible to be bombed, but we weren't really afraid of an attack.
Vietnam was a false flag conflict. Remember the "Gulf of Tonkin Incident"? A horrible mistake which costs over 50,000 young American lives!
One would think and hope that we would learn from our mistakes but it seems that It is the "Doom of Men that they Forget"...
The Gulf of Tonkin incident (Vietnamese: Sự kiện Vịnh Bắc Bộ), also known as the USS Maddox incident, was an international confrontation that led to the United States engaging more directly in the Vietnam War. It involved both a proven confrontation on August 2, 1964, carried out by North Vietnamese forces in response to covert operations in the coastal region of the gulf, and a second claimed confrontation on August 4, 1964, between ships of North Vietnam and the United States in the waters of the Gulf of Tonkin. The original American report blamed North Vietnam for both incidents, but further investigation suggested that the dismissal by Department of State and other government personnel of legitimate concerns regarding the veracity of the second incident was used to justify an escalation by the U.S. to a state of war against North Vietnam.[5][6][7]
On August 2, 1964, the destroyer USS Maddox, while performing a signals intelligence patrol as part of DESOTO operations, was claimed to have been approached by three North Vietnamese Navy torpedo boats of the 135th Torpedo Squadron.[1][5] The North Vietnamese boats attacked with torpedoes and machine gun fire.[5] One U.S. aircraft was damaged, three North Vietnamese torpedo boats were damaged, and four North Vietnamese sailors were killed, with six more wounded. There were no U.S. casualties.[8] Maddox was "unscathed except for a single bullet hole from a Vietnamese machine gun round".[5]
The National Security Agency originally claimed that another sea battle, the Second Gulf of Tonkin incident, occurred on August 4, 1964, but instead evidence was found of "Tonkin ghosts"[9] (false radar images) and not actual North Vietnamese torpedo boats. In the 2003 documentary The Fog of War, the former United States Secretary of Defense Robert S. McNamara admitted that an attack on the USS Maddox happened on August 2, but the August 4 Gulf of Tonkin attack, for which Washington authorized retaliation, never happened.[10] In 1995, McNamara met with former Vietnam People's Army General Võ Nguyên Giáp to ask what happened on August 4, 1964, in the second Gulf of Tonkin Incident. "Absolutely nothing", Giáp replied.[11] Giáp claimed that the attack had been imaginary.[12]
The outcome of these two incidents was the passage by U.S. Congress of the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, which granted U.S. President Lyndon B. Johnson the authority to assist any Southeast Asian country whose government was considered to be jeopardized by "communist aggression". The resolution served as Johnson's legal justification for deploying U.S. conventional forces and the commencement of open warfare against North Vietnam.
In 2005, an internal National Security Agency historical study was declassified; it concluded that Maddox had engaged the North Vietnamese Navy on August 2, but that there were no North Vietnamese naval vessels present during the reported incident of August 4.
You don't have to explain it with what's going on in Ukraine and Putin threatened nuclear war we're getting a taste of it
And now we find ourself being destroyed by leftist marxist from within
@@stevebishop9468 exactly. Kruschev said it in 1962. He said the US will never be defeated by a foreign army. We will destroy it from within. And they have. I’ve the past 30 years they’ve infiltrated schools, university, government. Every time something would happen people like myself would say hey…. Do you see what they’re doing? And most would just laugh and call you a conspiracy nut. Very few people in this country are aware of what has happened and what is going on. It’s a carbon copy of Maos 1949 takeover of China. Exactly. But keep them fat and happy and watching football, all most give a shit about until it’s too late. Now people are asking how did this happen? How??!! It happened while your ignorant fat asses were swilling beer and watching football that’s when. Most don’t even know what they’re kids are learning in school. Sheep. Who just go along with the crowd
I saw this for the first time in summer 1965 when I was 17. Portions of it are line for line from the novel. It remains my all time favorite. One of the reasons: No music. I believe it’s one of the greatest decisions the late Sidney Lumet or any other director ever made. Every performer from Hank Fonda to the go-go dancer was at their best. Even the uncredited people gave us a remarkable look at the hair-trigger tension that was the Cold War. I don’t think there is a movie on the planet that can outdo that. One of my online security answers is “The Translator”.
"People can always correct the machine's mistake." "I wish you were right."
Such a naive thing to say. As if humans don't make mistakes, like he doesn't know a machine is only as smart as its programmer.
nowadays machines are supposed to correct their own mistakes... what a great idea!
“System of safeguards and controls insure [sic] that occurrences such as those depicted in this story cannot happen.”
And yet 15 years later almost exactly this happened when a training program was accidentally loaded onto the active computer at NORAD. Hubris will be our downfall.
Man isn't perfect, therefore, neither are his machines. That's the point of film.
As fiction goes this is dark stuff.
why we love youtube - someone posted the Deluise clip - search for "FAIL-SAFE - Dom DeLuise" if you care to see - thanks again
HEY!! That's Boss Hogg (Sorrell Booke) as Mr. Foster!
How many of us want to be like Professor Groeteschele? How many of us have turned into him? Becoming the very thing we hate. Once in a while I rewatch this movie to remind myself who I want to be. I hope to aspire to be more like BG Black. He is what America should be or strive to be. Now we're surrounded by cravens and radicals from all sides. America has too many Groetescheles, Gradys, and Cascios.
Way, Waaayy TOO MANY!
Amen. Yours is a very underrated comment!
Sadly so my friend sadly so.
The one thing this movie missed the mark on and did so as to scare the crap out of everyone, was that bombers have always been recallable up to the moment of weapons release. The Fail-Safe Point was where the bombers would loiter while awaiting orders to proceed to their targets. Recall could be transmitted any time before or after they reached that point. Recalling a bomber is why the Air Force created the DynaSoar (dynamic soaring) program that gave us the X-15 and eventually the X-20 had the program continued. The idea was to develop a manned spacecraft that would have the speed of an ICBM and carry a nuclear weapon but be recallable up to the point of releasing the weapon over enemy territory. ICBMs cannot be recalled. Once launched there is no turning back.
Operation Pluto was the researching and design of a large, supersonic, low-level flying missile, probably using a nuclear engine, that would fly between several targets, firing small nuclear weapons (city-sized) up high enough to do more damage.
This was designed not to be recallable.
Profound knowledge. Thank you.
@@stevetheduck1425 Yes it was but the whole concept on paper and to the keepers of the purse strings, congress, was one; keep our nuclear deterrence untouchable and two; scare the crap out of the USSR. It was a doomsday weapon. Not only will we drop bombs on your cities but destroy them as well with the supersonic shockwave while flying a Mach 3 at low level. Then just to rub salt in the wound, when its mission was complete, take the empty missile and dive it into a city or military base irradiating it to make it unlivable for thousands of years. The whole thing was a farce, and the generals knew it would never be deployed. If they even tried, the USSR would have been left with no other option than to gamble on a first strike. It's development however did advance nuclear propulsion systems research big time. Research that otherwise would never have gotten any funding.
Up until the point something goes wrong. Which was kinda the point of the movie
At the Fail-Safe point, the bombers needed explicit confirmation to proceed. If they were unable to receive this confirmation as a result of Soviet jamming as postulated in the film, they would not proceed with a bombing mission.
"...such as those depicted in this film can not happen." Of course not, they don't HAVE to happen like this film. An accidental nuclear detonation is considered by many to be inevitable.
It was diligent of the filmmakers to explain the 5:30AM time line at the party by having one of the characters compliment Groeteschele's spell-binding intellect. With a little more time to think about it, they could have made that scene even more believable by showing one guest dozing in a corner, and ties undone on others. In fact, everybody except Groeteschele (and maybe that socialite) could have been visibly bedraggled and heavy-lidded, with only him still as natty, fresh and fervent as the night before.... it would have reinforced his fanaticism. The socialite could have stayed sharp because she had her own strain of fanaticism driving her. :-)
Fanaticism blended with severe twitterpation
incredible observation regarding the 530 AM/bow-ties still crisp... i always too wondered how an all-night chat-fest would still have attendees still fully buttoned up--
And still with wine glasses in hand... Your redux would make the scene 110 pct perfect, but this movie is virtually top notch otherwise.
@@Defender78 Thanks. :-)
I'm convinced this movie used the same cinematographer the Twilight Zone did.
who would let the convicts out from their solitary confinement after the guards and warden evacuate? Most likely, they would rot and die of starvation while still being locked-up.
I guess the choice would have been to kill them all or release them. If you're in charge of the prison do you want to abandon it and try to find your loved ones or do you want to keep it as your home base. Imprisoned convicts would just use up resources. Or if everyone else was dead, what's left to keep the murderous bastards from just walking out?
If enough damage was done possible the confinement system would be damaged as well allowing prisoners in solitary to escape. Would take a bit of luck but it is possible
The female guards.
nice work and great clips - the dom deluise meltdown was a great scene as well - tnx
But Fritz Weaver's (as Col. Cascio) meltdown was the real showstopper!
@@WalterDWormack214 "It's a mistake!" - yes, it was a showstopper 100%, - the first strike argument crossed my mind in recent weeks
We don't need to spend $60 million
We just need one guy.
MacGyver.
I bit off all my nails during this movie !
I saw this the first time in the early 70s, when local stations would still show movies late at night.
Frighteningly excellent.
Walter Mathau portrays KISSINGER.
I would say Herman Kahn.
So, that's what Mr. Wilson did during the 60s
As a 70s kid next to 1980s The Day After this film also scare the S**T out of my all my life on this world and may still till the day I die.
Insane.
I'm glad that General Black rebuked Matthau's character. That was terribly necessary.
And then Black unleashes Death Blossom
Walther Mathau would have been perfect as Lyndon Johnson.
He looked a lot like Richard Nixon in this clip.
"They won't give a damn what Marx said"😅
The reality of wars
I liked "Dr Strangelove" better. 'We must not allow a mineshaft gap'! 😅
'Hey, there's no fighting in here! This is the War Room'!
Strangelove was much, much better. This movie always struck me as overacted melodrama.
Before nuclear winter was discovered.
in the opening scene, notice how Groteschele gets quieter as Foster gets louder🖊
The Doomsday Machine that scares me.
The original neocon.
Extremely stupid statement.
Where do you draw the line once you know where the enemy is?,,,,,👍👍
Great line
Who is the dark-haired woman smoking a cigarette with a cigarette holder?
Just a socialite who seems enamored with powerful men who are very sure of themselves.
Nancy Berg.
Actress and Model. She passed away earlier this year aged 90.
I've long felt that Walter Matthau's casting stuck out like a sore thumb...and that was precisely the reason.
The character itself is the one truly unbelievable thing in the movie. Matthau's character belongs in Dr. Strangelove. I would have preferred George C. Scott in Matthau's role, with more sensible writing.
@@OroborusFMA Walter being Walter worked 99.44 times out of 100. But now you make me think of his audition for the role of JCS Chairman General Buck Turgidson, USAF. I truly shouldn't, you know.
You look at this, and despite it's acting and gravitas, Stanley Kubrick's "Dr Strangelove" is the film that is remembered more than this, sometime satire has more impact than drama.
Satire and 100 penis jokes.
Pay attention, people.
Who is the actress with the dark hair smoking a cigarette with a cigarette holder in this scene?
Nancy Berg
Get me the president…
Two words:
*Peace Walker*
'THEY' say it can't happen BUT they're the ones that can MAKE it happen. What could go wrong!
It almost did happen on three occasions, stopped only by an astute Russian general. There was the Able Archer provication and at least two instances of false alerts from their IR launch detection satellites.
@@orbitingeyes2540 Probably more times than these. We just know about these.
.should be "ensure" not "insure".
"I'd rather have an American culture survive than a Russian one." My, have times changed.
Not really, lol. Many people would still say that. (Probably with food reason)
megadeath
The damned UA-cam algorithm threw this at me and now I have to watch it again. Dr Strangelove won the nuclear holocaust competition of the 60s in my mine because it treated the subject with absurdity whereas Fail Safe took things seriously. But hell, it has Dom Delouise and Sidney Lumet so it’s a pretty powerful 2nd.
Matthau's character just isn't believable. And the fact that he's presented as a "political scientist" just makes it more galling.
he said "Russian culture" not "Soviet culture"... very interesting
The Soviets were basically a political party. The Russians are a people.
2000 movie was better, but both are phenomenal
all these diverse opinions. the very real & ignored disaster was Harry Truman
It's interesting that AI is addressed by Mr. Knapp whos company supplies some of the equipment at the Omaha base. We are now entering a time when AI will be operating on it's own, autonomously without any checks and balances.
That's a big WOPR! 😆😆😆
What happend to all this common sense we had as a country? 🤔
With Putin and his phantom menace over in Ukraine, this movie is a documentary.
The book was better. I liked the Vindicator bombers. They were the prototypes of the B-1. The Soviets thought they would win any nuclear war. Their ICBM silos had the ability to reload. Ours don't!
I don't think the Soviets ever thought they could win a nuclear war. They thought we thought that. They thought Reagan was trying to build a first-strike capability. Read about Able-Archer, the NATO war exercise in 1983 when the Soviets thought we were preparing an attack. Eventually Reagan realized that the Soviets were as scared of us as we were of them. And, assuming you are correct, what's the point of "reloading" a missile silo afterward; what else are you going to destroy? But our bombers never had the capability that the book and movie showing the Vindicators having.
@@marcschneider4845 - The Soviets until the end, had extensive Civil Defense training and the ability to put every person into a bomb shelter. They even had farm equipment stored underground to replant after a nuclear exchange. The idea of re-arming a ICBM site is to have a sufficient 2nd strike that they would immediately be the only nuclear power after a full exchange. And what abilities did the Vindicators have that the B-1 didn't?
Yes they did. Particularly in the beginning of the Cold War, when the US suffered from the missile and bomber gaps. The Soviets did in fact have reloadable tubes. I dont know about our former Titans. But i do know the Minuteman silos were a one and done thing. Because missile just burns everything up and of course the blast door just blows off. Didnt know that about the Vindicator bomber. I thought the FB 111 was born from the B58.
The aircraft featured in Failsafe are Convair B-58 "Hustlers" - the name was changed to "Vindicators" for the movie as the word "Hustler" was deemed inappropriate. The B-58s were designed for high-speed (supersonic) and high-altitude missions - at least initially. When the Soviets introduced relatively sophisticated SAMs, the days of high-altitude missions ended. The General Dynamics FB-111 was introduced to replace the B-58s as SAC's primary strategic bomber. FB-111s flew at low-speed (subsonic) and low-level (terrain-following). The B-58s never saw combat whereas the F-111s (the non-strategic cousin of the FB-111) flew numerous missions late in the Vietnam War (and in future conflicts). FB-111s were eventually replaced by the B1-B Lancer (as the B1-A program had been cancelled by President Carter).
@@mikemanning3768 - Thanks for the info.
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