Honda EX1000 - Running Wide Open / No Speed Control
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- Опубліковано 28 лют 2024
- A subscriber reached out asking me to take a look at his Honda EX1000 generator. It runs and makes power but the engine just idles and bogs under load. Someone added an extra spring to keep the throttle plate in the idle position. When the extra spring is removed the engine runs wide open. It the governor damaged? Easy fix or engine tear down? Lets find out.
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Excellent demonstration/explanation of the governor function. Nice work, Jim.
Thanks Jon. I enjoyed your saw video yesterday. Great job with that tank. Looking forward to the third saw repair. I have 3 Stihl saws in line for repair. Need to get going on them. Quite a contrast between the John Deere engine rebuild and the small engine work. Love it all.
Agree👍
During governor calibration, try a sponge wedged in there to hold arm, throttle open..
Piano wires..have some spring tension but is quite manageable if annealed with a propane torch to a dull orange and air cool before bending, trimming.
Great informative video James, thank you.
Helping his subscribers just for the sake of helping and demonstration... James Condon is a class act.
These are so relaxing to watch and listen to. Calm voice. Gives Bob Ross vibes.
Today, we are going to fix a beautiful little Generator.... 😄
Yeah, James is easy listening while he works.
We want happy generators. Happy generators. If you want sad things, watch the news.
These videos make our day, never underestimate the value of your videos James 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
These videos make my week! Always a great treat on Thursday morning with coffee. :)
Why didn't you simply use a cotter pin?
cotter pin doesn't have the spring properties needed . that clip pops over the shaft, not thru it
@@stazeII I put these on at night to relax. After a day of politics and society. Something relaxing about his videos...
I needed to get 50 years old and watch your videos in order to understand how a choke and a governour works. Thank you! ❤
You'll get there!! ;-]
bicycle rims have lots of carburetor rods. they are often hardened, so heat them glowing red once and they likely won't snap when you bend them.
Ah, you mean the spokes! Yeah the center part of double-butted 15/16 gauge spoke should be about 1.5 mm
@@RossReedstrom if you've ever seen a bicycle rim without spokes then you got too much money to spend on lonesome hobbies. ps: buuuuu imperial measurments, they suck.
Note that this generator has started on the first pull every time! 👌
Dude jim bud... You are a freaking genius!!! To notice a tiny little clip behind a governer arm!? Who notices that kinda stuff!?
Good point
Hi James , these Honda's are beautifully engineered. I have used bike spokes and welding wire ( in the metre lengths ) to make linkages - the welding wire rods were better than the spokes. Just on another matter check out the rugby league being played in Las Vegas this weekend - something a bit different to grid iron. Hello again from New Zealand.
My mom and dad's closet has a historical progression of coat hangers, from wood to wire to plastic. The ones used by dry cleaners, with the cardboard tube on the bottom, have the right size wire.
Instead of just a video of watching a guy fix something your videos are, as planned I'm sure, very well done with the goal of being instructional. Over the years I feel I've gained so much from your tutorials that there should be some sort of certificate. I love to hear the purr of those little Hondas.
James, Amazon has a selection of wire gauges in stock that are quite reasonably priced. Sizes run from 0.9mm through to 1.8mm. It might be worthwhile getting one or two for just jobs like this. Great video as always.
Jim, you may want to consider installing a dropping resistor in series with the hot leg of the pilot light, especially if this is a common problem. With a device that produces variable voltages and has no regulation it might be worth it to sacrifice some bulb brightness for longevity.
Love the paper clip solution. We’re going to start calling you MacGyver. 😂
Mighty nice of you to make that rod for Bill.
Paper clips are easy to bend templates / patterns with. Vibration will cause their metal to quickly weaken in use, though.
Hour and 11 minutes with jimmy oh ok..
Good stuff Kevin also thank you for the gift to us all
Nothing wrong with that well spent time
This is exactly the video I needed! I have an EX1000 that I bought from someone who tried to fix it, but I guarantee they made it worse than it was before. All it really needed was a carb clean and a new pull cord, but they tinkered with basically everything on the engine, including messing with the governor rod. No amount of adjusting the spring preload will make the governor work properly, and I couldn’t seem to wrap my brain around how to set the baseline adjustment. This video covers it beautifully. Thank you!
Just FYI, Oregon is pronounced “ore-eh-gun”. Basically the same as how you’re saying it, just “g u n” instead of “gone”. The way you say it is the way that basically everyone on the east coast says it.
Another educational video from James. More detailed discussion on how things actually work and some parts fabrication for those of us who get bitten by the obsolete parts scenario. Don't need to be scrapping a working machine because of an unavailable part. Another good one James.
Right on time.
I truly love your mindset when working on machines. You dig into it to find the true cause of an issue!
I very much like the:
“Hey guys, welcome back. Today we’re going to work on this …”
Gives me the feeling I’m doing some work too! 🤣
His two theme sayings:
"Hey guys welcome back" and
"I hope this video helps someone, thanks for watching". And he always has that calming voice while saying it just is awesome.👌
@@danielparsons3995 I couldn’t agree more! 😉
Learing and cheering on are both work. Enjoyable work, eh!?
@@danielparsons3995I wait for the dog’s bark and the chuckle at the end…
That's what I love as well about these videos, making you FEEL like your there with him as he works on anything he finds! don't see that with some channel's these day's, it really is enjoyable :)
another masterclass in generator troubleshooting & repair!
Master class! What an education! Thank you very much for the time, effort and expertise you put onto your videos.
Brilliant!!!! A pleasure to watch a Master Detective.
At 34 minutes, with 36 minutes to go, I was sure the governor shaft was going to fall into the engine.
When I work on something like this, ‘going haywire’ is likely outcome.
Smooth.
For a generator sent in that’s in a bad way, it’s a real testament to ‘somebody’s been here before’ syndrome. A reversed spring, a twisted linkage, a missing washer and clevis pin.
Should all generators be this, in the end, so simple.
Those small spring clips are available in hobby shops. They are used in RC cars and planes regularly.
You are right! Could have borrowed one from my sons RC car
A very nice gesture sending the guy the parts. Above and beyond. I salute you.
Monkeyed with equipment is tough to troubleshoot, good thing Brenda’s generator was still there to parts match!
That was a fortunate opportunity to compare.
3:03 "CAUTION ... electorical appliances" gotta love it!!
Great job James.
I have one of these and installed a AC hourmeter to keep track of oil changes. Always drain the fuel tank and carb when I don`t need it. Never failed.
Absolutely love your content….in depth repair ….
Another awesome repair!!! Thanks Jim!!
When I saw the problem was an easy fix I was afraid I'd not get my 1 hour of Engine AMSR. But again, you did not disappoint.
James is my small engine spirit animal!
James, besides the usual and frequent details that are mentioned, I would like to say that your 'extra effort' at cleaning the various pieces of equipment goes a long way in improving it. Yes, mostly cosmetic, BUT, sometimes those layers of dust and dirt can impact the operation and function as well. So, thank you.
FYI - 1.4mm is one of the standard sizes of TIG welding rod. Probably too late for this project, but you could check around and see if you could find a welding shop and bribe them out of an aluminum, steel, or stainless piece for future needs. They cost only a few pennies each, and they would probably just give you some.
Bush mechanics, often better than the original. Love it.
Good job James. Seems the owner was it's worst enemy again. Thought that original spring was the ticket. Probably lean from no airbox. Boy these engines are fiddly. Like putting enough oil on the air filter, whether the correct viscosity or how much means it will run temporarily without surging. Letting it sit until the next power outage and the owner may have to put more oil on the sponge or take some away with gasoline then reapply to get the correct fiddly consistency. Something tells me the average owner WILL NOT CARE ABOUT SURGING. And now we know how these governors are damaged or broken. That washer and keeper is lost. Putting that flat spot on the washer corrects that movement. So now we know how these governors are broken. Good deduction James ya'll taught an old dog new tricks. Thanks. On your little Honda motor it has a whistle on wide open throttle. Just saying something in the muffler is not correct making it sound like the valves might be leaking a tiny bit. In this case I think it is just the muffler since it pulls the generator at full throttle ok. It might use slightly more fuel than needed if it didn't sound like it does.
I know that you've explained the whole governor shaft reset procedure before but I think that this time it might have sunk into my head. Thanks.
If anyone on UA-cam makes better generator videos then you, I've never found them!!
Original owner should never try to repair anything!!!!! Is his own worst enemy!!! Thanks James for taking care of someone's mistakes. Great video as always!!!
Tad harsh, It could have just been dumped in a skip.. We have all cocked up at some time and we hopefully learn which is why we are here finding out what mistakes us mortals make on our journey for knowledge.
@@Woffy. Exactly, learning curve adventures. Owner # 2 stuck with it, found the right person to fix it and got an advantage.
I saw you pour that carb cleaner in the floor, How dare you ! in my best Greta voice.....LOL Good work James
To straighten wire, just drill a hole the size of the wire in some wood. Then pull the wire through the drill hole. It will straighten it out for you. It works for tubing too.
I had a Rupp mini bike back in ‘78.
I always hated the governor and I always wondered why in Birmingham, they love the governor.
Boo! Boo! Boo!
@@haneyoakie14 lol 😝
Governor stops young people from blowing up their Mini bike by over revving it...
Still as you can see..
a length of wire on the governor arm,
give it a pull...
what governor limiter?
John Smith was the Proprietary Governor of Virginia 1608-1609 but was limited by a lack of arms. @@JohnSmith-yv6eq
My observation has been that the flat on the governor shaft usually lines up with the slot on the arm. They have to have some indicator to assemble them because they didn't appear to ever have been run when purchased new.
Someone opened the flood gates. Here comes all the requests. Great video
Also, a shout out to Brenda for donating the other EX1000 to the channel as it was critical to repairing this one. 👍
Many thanks for that excellent description of the governor operation. Now I know!
Super magnificent! Thank-you!
With about thirty minutes to go I wondered what else was going to come? Then we got two bonus tutorials: wire bening, not Uri Geller style but using, in part those 'handy' (ouch) vice grips called fingers then the bul. We all went yay not yak!
Thats Kevin and Bill also (my fellow Canadian). And you Master!
Once again Jim is being very detailed on his trouble shooting and repair skills with a tutorial visual on How the governor works and able to control the engine speed under load ,very informative and interesting , The more you know ,By James Condon
Hey James, another high quality video. Your explanation of how the governor works was very understandable. I look forward to every Thursday for another relaxing video.
Hey James. It's nice to see you fixing something again ❤
Mi humilde reacción nunca te va a faltar campeón... 👍
Thanks James. Excellent work as always. Please keep them coming!
Hey Jame, thanks for continuously educate your viewers and that's inxludes me. More power to you.
Nice looking honda
At the end, when you were talking about the possibility of breaking a 30 year old plastic clip, I was waiting for you to break it and whip out a 3D printer and make a new one. Great video as always!
That same style of clip was used in Japanese assembled Nissan, Mazda and Toyota vehicles on the rods controlling the door mechanisms handle/lock etc from 1980 through to early 2000's....
Fantastic, James. Another one ready for sale. Your storage unit must be getting full? Thanks for sharing with us.
Great video. Needle nose pliers might be helpful to help bend & tweak the throttle linkage.
I love your videos , very detailed and very well explained and the best of all is they're long videos 👌
I love anything made by Honda, I like that air filter. Great troubleshooting finding that missing pin, I never would have caught that.
Great video as always. I am glad you made that rod for Bill. That was nice of you. As he said, it would be a crime shame to trash such a nice generator. 😁
Thanks for that excellent explanation of how the governor works and how to adjust it. Once again I've learned something useful and new
Me thinks the binding was a combination of the ill formed governor rod and the missing washer/clip on the governor shaft. When the governor shaft/arm was "pushed" in the rod hit the head causing the binding.Good work on the "replacement" governor rod. Bill would need to get his new rod as close as possible to your sample and then would recalibrate his governor as you showed. Another great video!
Great video as always, really enjoy how you explain what you are doing and why.
Another great video James. You explain things very well👏👏
This was a great overview Jim. I have several of these Honda EX1000's and they are GREAT machines, durable, quiet, efficient and still priced reasonable. Nice work! P.S. I see one of the covers for the EM650 in the background towards the end. Looking forward to that video!
The EM650 was another sent in the mail. Working on it now.
Love watching your videos..u got me working on small engines..and selling them..thanks..still learning
You found a good reason to keep some junk governor rods... and probably never have a use for them. LOL. You could make the rod a tad longer & give it a twist in the mid section to shorten it to length . thanks for sharing!
your description of the governor function is superb . better than a manual ! Thank you
Very well done with a concise insight into the throttle regulation! Cheers
Great video as usual Jim. Regards from the UK. I tried to leave a link as I found the part no problem but it seems I can't. The part No. is
Honda 16555ZG0000 ROD, GOVERNOR
Part#: 16555ZG0000
This is available at Jacks Small Engines. Hope that saves some time.
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Great job as usual. Thanks for sharing. 🇨🇦
Enjoyed the video. Thanks for sharing
Thank you for explaining how the governor works! Very visual and detailed.
Brilliant videos
Nice work James .Attention to detail makes the difference sometimes.
Thanks Jim, you're the best. Excellent video as usual!
Good job for helping Bill
James I'd love to see how many volts are generated as your "views/thumbs up" numbers rapidly roll over while I'm watching one of your new videos. Based on the
comments here and in past videos, I'd say you could steadily power your house with a THD level of about 3.7% 😂 You never disappoint. God bless.
great video as always I remember your first video
Great diagnostic video Doc.
Very good show brother 👏 thanks for sharing 👍 🙏 attention to detail all the way 😊
Hey James, you really know your stuff ! Diagnosis and explanation top notch, great respect and best regards from Ireland.
Good fault finding... its always great to have a running unit to compare too! Also thanks for the shorter videos!!!
S&K Metals sells piano (music) wire in a wide variety of sizes. I make Z-bends all day for model airplane linkages.
P.S. Thank You for your many tutorials.
That's not a great idea to have happened to this inverter generation machine but they sent it to the right person to get it in running condition again i.looked up the t.h.d reading meter you are right about the price of it being not cheap or being not expensive Mr Condon thank you for the helpful tip on the price of it 👍👌👌👍
Old throttle cable works good to make governor linkage too
Beautiful work Indeeed
Thank you guvnah! I learned something.
Another enjoyable video, James. Power is knowledge. I've always cut out & recycled bicycle wheel spokes at the scrapyard as they are handy for governor rods and linkages
Great Video again. A little tip for a governor rod DIY: A (tig) welding electrode will do the job perfectly. They are available in many diameters. Your 1.8mm cloth-hanger would worked as well if you had stretched it (and straightened out in the same movement) Greetings from Sweden :)
Hi James, I enjoy your channel just thought of an FYI, on that governor linkage by using the thicker one you could’ve ground the end down that fits in the hole
very detailed. excellent vid. fixed my issue, learned more. thanks
If it turns out that the paperclip wire is too soft and fails, you can get musicwire at any hobby shop or hardwzare store that has a K&S rack. If it is a hobby shop they will also have Z-bend pliers to do a perfect job shaping the ends. As much of this work as you do it might be well worth the $10 or so never to have to wait for another rod...you can probably make one in less time than it would take to research the part number. Also, if you put a light Z bend in the middle of the rod then it gives you a way to fine tune the overall length.
Great video. One of my hobbies is rc cars and planes. For control linkages, we use music wire . It is hardened and available in many diameters. To make the Z bends, i have a set of Zbend pliers. Both are available at hobby stores onr sites reasonable price. Using the pliers allows you to measure rod leanth and marrk for accurate bends.
Nice video thanks for the governor lesson.
I may have tried a silver wire coat hanger for that rod. I'm looking at one and It looks about the same thickness. Hey but the paperclip worked. See how it holds up to heat. Very interesting video.
Amazing diagnosis and " treatment." Also, GREAT explanation of how some of the parts really "WORK." I know that those Honda engines are held in high regard by many. You make it look "easy" which, in my view, attributes to real SKILL. Thanks for the ANALYSIS which is so helpful!!
Am enjoying your content!!
im glad you explained the Gov,,and how it works,,,nice info....i was going to get one of these gens..but there so high in price,,i may still get a used one...not to hurt...great video James,,i learned something..