Real makes risers for Thunder and Venture. You have the risers made for Ventures. That's why they're not lining up right. I have both, and they line up perfectly with the right truck. Great risers. I'm definitely gonna get some of those 93a Spitfires. I'm glad they're finally making a softer durometer wheel. Thanks for the review. I can't imagine how different your setup must feel with an 8.75, 58's and 1/4" risers. That's a huge change. It's what I skate, but I'm an old timer that started in the 80s when we skated 1/2" risers and 60mm wheels. Your ollies and flip tricks look awesome, like you adjusted immediately.
Thanks for the comment dude. I realized that afterwards 😂. Oh well, the risers still work and I love the bigger set up. My smaller set up feels like a small toy now.
the riser pads don't align perfect because u have risers made for ventures! the risers were labeled with a "V". the riser pads made for thunder are labeled as "T".
Hi! nice setup! nice wheels. The risers you bought are for "Venture Trucks" notice they have a "V" (green tag), the ones for "Thunder Trucks" have a "T" (blue tag), and the ones that are "Universal" have a "U" on the tag (yellow tag).
not really. its more like a normal "modern" set up. a lot of Pros young pros ride bigger set ups. 8.75 and up/ and get tech and gnarly on that type of set up. A lot of people are riding 58mm wheels and 60mm wheels and skating rails and stairs great. if anything a 8.25 set up looks weird small and counter productive. cant ride that in the streets that's for perfect cement. I do ride a bigger board in the streets and a smaller board on flat ground no rocks smooth cement only board.
51yo and I have almost the exact same setup. Antihero 9" classic eagle, Thunder 161's, and 58mm 97a Spitfire Radial Fulls. Can't wait to get some of these 93a Radials.
I skated a Blue Meanie during COVID lockdown and liked it more than i thought I would. Had it setup with indy 159 titaniums and 52mm conical fulls. Even though it was an absolute tank, it was way more nimble feeling than I thought it would be
I love the blue meanie so much i bought 2, I like the fact it’s more of a shovel nose and tail. Very squared. It’s an 8.75 at the front truck and 8.5 at the back truck. I had 149 Indys and 58mm OJ double duros on mine.
For the bones bushings they don't require a bottom washer so that's why they feel tight. I personally use a standard top washer on the bones bushings instead of their included black ring after seeing many pros do that.
I’ve actually never owned a set of spitfires. Been digging the x97. x99 seems nice but haven’t ridden them yet, still in packaging. I do like the smoother and quieter ride, less vibration
i dont know about the spitfire 93a wheels but i know the powell dragons are on anther level. they feel absolutely amazing. all the comfort of the soft wheels with all the vibes of hard wheel
I ride the white Anti Hero 8.75 'cuz I got size 12 feet. I put Indy Stage 4 151 reissues with an extra washer on the inside on mine. Wish I coulda bought Ace AF1s but 8.75 is inbetween the 55s and 66s. I rode Stage 4s when they came out and the new Stage 4 reissues ride just like Ace AF1s, as I have AF1s on other set ups for that tight turn on transitions, so I'm familiar with both trucks. Never tried Thunder. I went from Bennett(plastic baseplates!🤬) in 1974 to Tracker to Indy and then to Ace after the 'Stage 9 sh!t show'(computer designed trucks), although Stage 11 is great and I've still always ridden Indy 215s on my 10" pool boards but now that Ace recently released the new 10" AF1 Model 80, I'm gonna have to try those for sure! Great video. Keep up the good work.
Got them in a 56D on a 9" Herion board with AF1 66 Hollows. Fantastic wheel! Got the Dragons and the sapphire spitfire too, I think these new 93's are the best!
Damnn i just picked up all the stuff for a complete at my local on Sunday! I went with 8.25 krooked, BA Ace AF1 44s, Neon yellow spitfire classic 52mm, Bones Swiss bearings, and biggest little hardware. I haven’t set it up yet but man I seen hella different sets of those new spitfire 93a at the shop and now i wish i kinda grabbed a set. lol i actually prefer conical or radial shape but I COULD NOT pass up the neon yellow colored wheels (in 2006 my neighbor had a set and i thought they looked so sick so i been on a hunt for a set in that color since then xD). PS man now I’m lowkey tempted to stop by the shop and grab a set! But yo man great video Adriano, I love your videos and watching you rip
My only issue with 93 durability is the when you stick on certain tricks where both wheels contact on a slide bu everything else is very nice.They are, way easier on the feet/knees, higher rebounding pop, powerslides great too.
in actuality he did amazing 360 flip on that board considering the wheelbase is "14.75" that's what made it hard. not the width or length those are actually really nice, for tricks. 8.75 feels nice for all tricks really stable.
I run thunders and bones mediums. The bones washers made the trucks click when I turned so I switched to a thunder top washer and no bottom washer and it sounds normal.
Seems like you’ve figured the rider thing out. I do want to point out why the bushings feel tight though. The stock thunder bushings aren’t as tall as the bones ones. Taking the bottom washer out should help a little bit. Or you could go the extra mile and buy another set and just use the tops haha. I can’t remember who, but I’ve read that’s what some pros have done.
Just went from a year and a half of dragons to X97, it’s gonna take some getting used to a harder wheel 😂. If the spitfires slide better than dragons, it might have to be my next set!
really curious about those wheels. i love the quieter and softer feel of dragons but really don't like the way they crooked grind on metal angle iron. if the spitfire formula can slide on metal they would be superior based on that alone.
I have the 93’s on 2 different boards. Got 54mm on Thunder light 148’s and 8.125 deck. Then 58mm on Thunder hollow light 149’s and 8.25 deck. I love them so far. Never skated F4 99’s or 101’s. But they don’t feel softer than Spitfire 99 standards. They’re smoother but they slide easier so I’m not really sure how it works that way?
@@fiore_adriano yeah i had 7.5, 7.65 in the '90s but kept going up bit by bit, 8.25 by late '90s. kinda float 8-8.25 on popsicles, though i do have 8.375 and 8.5 in my stack, and 9.25 and up on shapes
Hey man. sick vid. One question: Would you say these wheels are good for a filmer setup? Looking for control and speed but particularly quietness. I don't like my actual filmer setup, with super soft cruiser wheels, because I can't catch up with the skater as he usually goes faster with his 99s. But it's super silent, which is nice on the mic. And as a skater I don't have the same control as with my usual 8.125/147s/53mm 99a. I.m planning on getting these wheels for a 8.25 setup with 148 thunders and riser pads. In this way I can also play around and do casual tricks on my filmer days. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. Cheers!
I have looked several times at the model of wheels that you use and I am still wondering if these wheels are "prototypes"? The only ones I can find on the internet are the soft sliders and yours are completely white?!
I need to know if these 93a soft sliders work on pinch grinds on metal coping, ledges and rails? The dragons would chirp and stop like when tryin crooks on metal.
@@fiore_adrianoi usually get 56. i've been getting 56-60 since late '90s bc they're fast and last real long. plus i like wider wheels and they tend to get skinnier the smaller you go
Someone that skates with Andrew Reynolds told me he was exclusively skating dragon wheels for a while so he must be getting spitfire to copy that formula.
Like 63 and raws alot. I usually just buy which ever colorway I can get for 20 to 25 which is often online. Which is a steal when they are 35 msrp. I def dig Antis eagle logo but not a fan at all of the grimlin lookin dude on some of their other boards. Just not a cool lookin gremlin to me.
hi adriano, would u ever do a house tour or show more of ur personal life or do u want to keep the channel strictly skating. I found your video reviewing skateboarding website designs really interesting and would love to hear more about your graphic design background / job. Your houses interior design in the background of home vids also looks really interesting and maybe some people would be interested in seeing more
Hey, thanks for the comment! I've considered sharing more into my work and personal life. I'll keep that in mind. Work and life has been hectic lately and filming/documenting and editing just isn't the priority at the moment. Keeping this in mind for this summer maybe. :)
Your cruiser is .5 in smaller then the board i use haha i love seeing people not used to big boards love them. I ride a 9.25 shaped boards or square tail shaped, and man i cant go back to nothing smaller. I never knew if people ride smaller boards because of shoe size and or weight rather than flip speed. Im about 190 and 5foot11 and 11 and a half shoe size us and i cant get comfty on a 8.25 or even 8.5 feels like the smallest i could go. Wonder if you have any input love the video!!❤
They flatspot .very disappointed. U wont get it if you powerslide on rough ground cus the wheels get chewed easily , more so than the dragons. but I got flatspots on fairly old skatepark ground with these wheels , they feel good with nice rebound . Completely silent on slides at least my set of wheels are Renolds are .regardless of surfaces 😅
Just saying being your first time you are setting up a real board you over thought the setup. So risers if you try flipping the riser you would see that it fits properly and besides if you skate and do slide on your tail or nose any sticker or any thing like a riser hanging in the slide zone it will bite or slow your slide being a huge poser mistake but just speaking from skating for years and still throwing my tail and Ollie’s over the cooping and far grinds for a old dog I still love to skate and rails yes helps with your slide but truly was for grabs more and used more for reinforcing your deck making it almost bomb proof. And properly installed to the concave of your board and the grip that fit you will dictate the placement. So a board with a lot of concave the rails are useless because the rails will raise the edge the middle will exceed the rail unless you brin it in way to much the last thing you want is the middle draging and your rails are not sliding so that’s why street skates no longer rock rails now days
Real makes risers for Thunder and Venture. You have the risers made for Ventures. That's why they're not lining up right. I have both, and they line up perfectly with the right truck. Great risers. I'm definitely gonna get some of those 93a Spitfires. I'm glad they're finally making a softer durometer wheel. Thanks for the review.
I can't imagine how different your setup must feel with an 8.75, 58's and 1/4" risers. That's a huge change. It's what I skate, but I'm an old timer that started in the 80s when we skated 1/2" risers and 60mm wheels. Your ollies and flip tricks look awesome, like you adjusted immediately.
Thanks for the comment dude. I realized that afterwards 😂. Oh well, the risers still work and I love the bigger set up. My smaller set up feels like a small toy now.
Oh my goodness I love those bushings they don’t even have to break in at all they are perfect
the riser pads don't align perfect because u have risers made for ventures! the risers were labeled with a "V". the riser pads made for thunder are labeled as "T".
Thanks! I realized this after when someone pointed it out at the skate park. Whoops. Haha
The bones pads are nice because they have bigger slots to fit any truck.
@@fiore_adriano no problem just switch to ventures 😆
@@fiore_adriano i have those "wood real" risers and i didn't know that
@@diplenski facts, ventures ride bro.
Hi! nice setup! nice wheels. The risers you bought are for "Venture Trucks" notice they have a "V" (green tag), the ones for "Thunder Trucks" have a "T" (blue tag), and the ones that are "Universal" have a "U" on the tag (yellow tag).
The extra pop could be the extra steepness from the risers and big wheels. The flip tricks looked real nice
This is such an old guy setup and I love it
not really. its more like a normal "modern" set up.
a lot of Pros young pros ride bigger set ups.
8.75 and up/ and get tech and gnarly on that type of set up. A lot of people are riding 58mm wheels and 60mm wheels and skating rails and stairs great.
if anything a 8.25 set up looks weird
small and counter productive. cant ride that in the streets that's for perfect cement.
I do ride a bigger board in the streets and a smaller board on flat ground no rocks smooth cement only board.
51yo and I have almost the exact same setup. Antihero 9" classic eagle, Thunder 161's, and 58mm 97a Spitfire Radial Fulls. Can't wait to get some of these 93a Radials.
Old guys, and big guys (6"6 and size 13 shoes). Both reasons in my case.
big is good! switched to heroin big boy which is around 11inches wide, and it feels nice
glad you're enjoying your new setup!
I skated a Blue Meanie during COVID lockdown and liked it more than i thought I would. Had it setup with indy 159 titaniums and 52mm conical fulls. Even though it was an absolute tank, it was way more nimble feeling than I thought it would be
facts, Im skating a 8.9 creature john gardner board that feels like a 8.25
Super sweet setup. Also love the Will Marshall Alltimers peeking out in the back.
I love the blue meanie so much i bought 2, I like the fact it’s more of a shovel nose and tail. Very squared. It’s an 8.75 at the front truck and 8.5 at the back truck. I had 149 Indys and 58mm OJ double duros on mine.
For the bones bushings they don't require a bottom washer so that's why they feel tight. I personally use a standard top washer on the bones bushings instead of their included black ring after seeing many pros do that.
I’ve actually never owned a set of spitfires. Been digging the x97. x99 seems nice but haven’t ridden them yet, still in packaging. I do like the smoother and quieter ride, less vibration
the wheel tech wars is what we need. love it! evolution for our benefit. especially our knees 😂
For sure its great. I have super rough concrete at my crib so need a softer set at times.
i dont know about the spitfire 93a wheels but i know the powell dragons are on anther level. they feel absolutely amazing. all the comfort of the soft wheels with all the vibes of hard wheel
They're similar - but the 93a slide better
Cool video! The riser is for Venture trucks i think! Because the Venture have a lot of baseplate after the hole.
I ride the white Anti Hero 8.75 'cuz I got size 12 feet. I put Indy Stage 4 151 reissues with an extra washer on the inside on mine. Wish I coulda bought Ace AF1s but 8.75 is inbetween the 55s and 66s. I rode Stage 4s when they came out and the new Stage 4 reissues ride just like Ace AF1s, as I have AF1s on other set ups for that tight turn on transitions, so I'm familiar with both trucks. Never tried Thunder. I went from Bennett(plastic baseplates!🤬) in 1974 to Tracker to Indy and then to Ace after the 'Stage 9 sh!t show'(computer designed trucks), although Stage 11 is great and I've still always ridden Indy 215s on my 10" pool boards but now that Ace recently released the new 10" AF1 Model 80, I'm gonna have to try those for sure! Great video. Keep up the good work.
You are gonna love the blue meanie/ love that board....
Got them in a 56D on a 9" Herion board with AF1 66 Hollows. Fantastic wheel! Got the Dragons and the sapphire spitfire too, I think these new 93's are the best!
56mm* 56d would be crazy lol
@@idhatemet00 😂 glad you’re awake.
Yes! I knew you could 360 flip on that monster setup.
Those new wheels seem promising!
They are perfect!
@@fiore_adriano they seem amazing.
They suck. They're nowhere near 93A and they chunk out fast.
Damnn i just picked up all the stuff for a complete at my local on Sunday! I went with 8.25 krooked, BA Ace AF1 44s, Neon yellow spitfire classic 52mm, Bones Swiss bearings, and biggest little hardware. I haven’t set it up yet but man I seen hella different sets of those new spitfire 93a at the shop and now i wish i kinda grabbed a set. lol i actually prefer conical or radial shape but I COULD NOT pass up the neon yellow colored wheels (in 2006 my neighbor had a set and i thought they looked so sick so i been on a hunt for a set in that color since then xD).
PS man now I’m lowkey tempted to stop by the shop and grab a set! But yo man great video Adriano, I love your videos and watching you rip
Bro perfect setup I just did a 8.75 blood wizard but with bones 103a
Ill set up. Throw some 5.8s on it be exactly my wheelhouse. Killer minimalist graphic like the inside of an og or a lock in.
Spit slays always #1
Cool setup. 58s!
58mm spitfire conical full's all day bro
Cool setup. Once you are stuck in wide boards, you never go back to smaller decks! 😁👍🍻🛹
Truth. I remember going from the 7.75 like everyone skated when we were kids to an 8, then an 8.5, and now 8.5 - 9. It makes a difference
Can’t wait to cop the new wheels
My only issue with 93 durability is the when you stick on certain tricks where both wheels contact on a slide bu everything else is very nice.They are, way easier on the feet/knees, higher rebounding pop, powerslides great too.
Haven’t hard issues with grinding and sliding on ledges. They go!
These are unreleased 93a spitfire soft slide wheels. Have you already tried them?
Yup!
You could still use the label to measure the rails, just pick a letter and use it for reference or fold it.
Nice. Do try it with small wheels and no risers.
Would be interesting.
I like that shape.
That AH 8.75 is my favorite board. The blue one like you have or the white one.
i like the ah eagles, i had the grey one. was labeled 8.25 but was actually closer to 8.125. if i get another it will prob be 8.75 or 9
tre on the 8.75!😵💀 killin it homie!💪
Hey Paul. Thanks!
in actuality he did amazing 360 flip on that board considering the wheelbase is "14.75" that's what made it hard. not the width or length those are actually really nice, for tricks. 8.75 feels nice for all tricks really stable.
I run thunders and bones mediums. The bones washers made the trucks click when I turned so I switched to a thunder top washer and no bottom washer and it sounds normal.
I set something like that up a fiew years ago, haven't gone back to a small board
overhang is for classic boards and independant trucks, you mounted them right
I got that deck. Love it for bombing hills and street skating in my crusty ass NoCal town
😊 Nice setup bro I am currently on a grimple stix same size as well & same company I believe;)
Those risers but be mint for indys and og style trucks that have the off set drilled holes unlike thunders that are centered on the baseplate.
Seems like you’ve figured the rider thing out. I do want to point out why the bushings feel tight though. The stock thunder bushings aren’t as tall as the bones ones. Taking the bottom washer out should help a little bit. Or you could go the extra mile and buy another set and just use the tops haha. I can’t remember who, but I’ve read that’s what some pros have done.
Thank you! I quickly figured that out when I met up with homies at the park, once I took out the bottom washer they were perfect.
Just went from a year and a half of dragons to X97, it’s gonna take some getting used to a harder wheel 😂. If the spitfires slide better than dragons, it might have to be my next set!
really curious about those wheels. i love the quieter and softer feel of dragons but really don't like the way they crooked grind on metal angle iron. if the spitfire formula can slide on metal they would be superior based on that alone.
They grind and slide with no issues. They nailed it.
I need those wheels!
Might be wrong but I’m pretty sure the standard size for griptape is 9 wide and 33 long.
You’re right. I’m mistaken. I believe Alveer is 9.25 or something.
I have the 93’s on 2 different boards. Got 54mm on Thunder light 148’s and 8.125 deck. Then 58mm on Thunder hollow light 149’s and 8.25 deck. I love them so far. Never skated F4 99’s or 101’s. But they don’t feel softer than Spitfire 99 standards. They’re smoother but they slide easier so I’m not really sure how it works that way?
How have you not ridden risers or deck rails before
I like it all
That shape looks sick, I’d hardly call it a cruiser
I grew up skating 7.75 so this feels like a cruiser to me. Haha
@@fiore_adriano yeah i had 7.5, 7.65 in the '90s but kept going up bit by bit, 8.25 by late '90s. kinda float 8-8.25 on popsicles, though i do have 8.375 and 8.5 in my stack, and 9.25 and up on shapes
Those risers are for Ventures. . that's why they don't line up right. They sell others for Thunder
Figured that out afterwards. Haha. Thanks.
yup, keepemon
Hey man. sick vid. One question: Would you say these wheels are good for a filmer setup? Looking for control and speed but particularly quietness. I don't like my actual filmer setup, with super soft cruiser wheels, because I can't catch up with the skater as he usually goes faster with his 99s. But it's super silent, which is nice on the mic. And as a skater I don't have the same control as with my usual 8.125/147s/53mm 99a. I.m planning on getting these wheels for a 8.25 setup with 148 thunders and riser pads. In this way I can also play around and do casual tricks on my filmer days. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. Cheers!
Not sure - you would have to try and see. I would think big soft wheels would be faster?
Getting heavy Vancouver nostalgia with this backdrop. What school are you setting this up at?
Kits High :)
I don’t think they mind, I saw another channel that gets hooked up by deluxe review them legit in packaging
Will there be a video coming out for the Telford's you're wearing now?
Not sure about the current ones I’m wearing. Maybe though!
I have looked several times at the model of wheels that you use and I am still wondering if these wheels are "prototypes"? The only ones I can find on the internet are the soft sliders and yours are completely white?!
Wierd Question but what are those pants they look comfy asf
Volcom Louie Lopez, they are a few years old now though.
I need to know if these 93a soft sliders work on pinch grinds on metal coping, ledges and rails? The dragons would chirp and stop like when tryin crooks on metal.
They work great.
@@fiore_adriano thanks
How big are the wheels they look kinda normal to me
58's
@@fiore_adrianoi usually get 56. i've been getting 56-60 since late '90s bc they're fast and last real long. plus i like wider wheels and they tend to get skinnier the smaller you go
Yo brother do remember your Air Force 1 high?? With the orange. WHAT happen to them bro???
Gave them away a couple years ago.
@@fiore_adriano lol
1:44 I actually prefer this plain graphic.
Definitely fix those risers my guy
Nice video. What shoe size are you? I'm a size 9 and not sure if I should stick with a 8.5" or try a 8.75" board... Would appreciate some thoughts!
Size 11 shoes. Depends what kind of skating you like to do. Stick with whatever you're already riding. Easier to progress on same setup.
If you want a better carve try running ace or indie trucks. Even just a softer bushing will help.
So when do these wheel launch in Canada?
No idea.
Someone that skates with Andrew Reynolds told me he was exclusively skating dragon wheels for a while so he must be getting spitfire to copy that formula.
Probably for R&D - he's been on Spitfire for a while.
@@fiore_adriano i want them.
have you tried dragon 93a wheels and how do they compare to the spitfire 93duro?
I have tried them. The dragons feel softer and don't slide as much.
yeah and when risers are sticking out that way it’s also bad for noseslides i think
alveer grip 9.25!
reg mob is 9'' wide. Alveer is 9.25''
Ah - good to know! Thanks.
I had to get MOB 10” clear for my decks.
Slappy Truck Co makes risers pointless. I highly recommend.
2 gripping teams - a doll knife and a sharp knife 🙆🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Like 63 and raws alot. I usually just buy which ever colorway I can get for 20 to 25 which is often online. Which is a steal when they are 35 msrp. I def dig Antis eagle logo but not a fan at all of the grimlin lookin dude on some of their other boards. Just not a cool lookin gremlin to me.
all griptapes are 9 inches or more
OJs had a 95 out .. "nomads"
Loved the nomad but too grippy for me dragons where better but a bit too sticky on nonwaxed metal :(. Love seeing spitfites improving these issues.
@@remcovanbuuren5383 rad I'll be gettin 56 or 58s 👍
hi adriano, would u ever do a house tour or show more of ur personal life or do u want to keep the channel strictly skating. I found your video reviewing skateboarding website designs really interesting and would love to hear more about your graphic design background / job. Your houses interior design in the background of home vids also looks really interesting and maybe some people would be interested in seeing more
Hey, thanks for the comment! I've considered sharing more into my work and personal life. I'll keep that in mind. Work and life has been hectic lately and filming/documenting and editing just isn't the priority at the moment. Keeping this in mind for this summer maybe. :)
Your cruiser is .5 in smaller then the board i use haha i love seeing people not used to big boards love them. I ride a 9.25 shaped boards or square tail shaped, and man i cant go back to nothing smaller. I never knew if people ride smaller boards because of shoe size and or weight rather than flip speed. Im about 190 and 5foot11 and 11 and a half shoe size us and i cant get comfty on a 8.25 or even 8.5 feels like the smallest i could go. Wonder if you have any input love the video!!❤
They flatspot .very disappointed. U wont get it if you powerslide on rough ground cus the wheels get chewed easily , more so than the dragons. but I got flatspots on fairly old skatepark ground with these wheels , they feel good with nice rebound . Completely silent on slides at least my set of wheels are Renolds are .regardless of surfaces 😅
🛹🛹🛹
Just saying being your first time you are setting up a real board you over thought the setup. So risers if you try flipping the riser you would see that it fits properly and besides if you skate and do slide on your tail or nose any sticker or any thing like a riser hanging in the slide zone it will bite or slow your slide being a huge poser mistake but just speaking from skating for years and still throwing my tail and Ollie’s over the cooping and far grinds for a old dog I still love to skate and rails yes helps with your slide but truly was for grabs more and used more for reinforcing your deck making it almost bomb proof. And properly installed to the concave of your board and the grip that fit you will dictate the placement. So a board with a lot of concave the rails are useless because the rails will raise the edge the middle will exceed the rail unless you brin it in way to much the last thing you want is the middle draging and your rails are not sliding so that’s why street skates no longer rock rails now days