Monsters of Alnico Speaker Shootout -Gain Channel- Celestion Gold, EJ-1250, Scumnico, Blackbird
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
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Scott Sill demos 6 different speakers from 4 great speaker companies: Celestion, Eminence, Scumback, and Jensen. All the speakers in this shootout are alnico speakers and are available to purchase from these great companies. Scott uses the gain channel on his Gibson Super Goldtone GA-30RV and a Gibson Les Paul Standard along with a Taylor T5b.
The speakers used are:
- Celestion Gold Alnico
- Eminence Signature Series, Eric Johnson, EJ-1250
- Scumback S75-PVC
- Scumback Scumnico
- Jensen Blackbird from the Jet Series
- Jensen P12N from the Vintage Alnico Series
Scott opened the video playing a Taylor T3/B into a Scumback Scumnico.
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Video by: Scott Sill
Equipment Used: Eminence EJ-1250, Celestion Gold, Scumback S75-PVC, Scumback Scumnico, Jensen Blackbird, Jensen P12N, Gibson Les Paul Standard, Gibson Super Goldtone GA-30RV, Taylor T3/B, Sennheiser e609 Silver, Zoom H4n, Canon Mark II 5d
1:49 Celestion gold Alnico 5:55
2:32 Jensen p12N 6:05
3:13 Scumback S75 6:14
3:55 Emoinence Eric Johnson 6:24
4:34 Blackbird 100 6:33
5:14 Scumnico 55 6:43
Thanks for this. It's fascinating how wildly different these guys are!
Thx glad you enjoyed it
this should be pinned to the top of the comments!
Done
I LOVE the Jensen Blackbird!
Thx for watching
Jensen Blackbird sounded damn good...would be a great blues speaker too
Thx
ALnico ... And GOLD. Best clarity and balance between lows, mids and highs of the entire group.
Yes nice choice
I have the Jensen Blackbird with a tube amp that has 6V6 power tubes and it sounds incredible. you really have to hear this speaker live to truly appreciate it. it also sounds amazing with a mesa mark v head. I think it's probably one of the most underrated speakers out right now. I did think the demo showcased the sound pretty well though. Great job
Thanks for the comments man. Really appreciate it.
I have a Black bird on an 80s Dean Markly amp .. yes sounds incredible
Awesome thx for watching
The Gold and the Black bird for me
I agree. More depth and detail. Thick, but defined on both.
Thx for watching, check out my latest speaker shootout featuring 3 alnico celestion speakers
@@sillennium will do!
thank you buddy ! i was loving the blackbird, now i love it more ;) thank you for your video !!! :))
Glad the video helped. Thx for watching
sillennium yes it helped :) thank you again !
Thanks for putting the gold next to the p12n. Exactly what I was looking for and it was extremely helpful. It's surprising this as clear and present type of demo wasnt already on here. Thanks for getting to the point as well
Glad it helped!
Which you finally get? I'm betwen them. On that demo I like the Gold the most!
I have Celestions Blue, Celestion Gold and Celestion Cream. They all sound very good, but I tend to like the Cream best.
I am really digging the cream and ruby for sure
Definitely digging that Celestion Gold, That EJ-1250 was really nice too! Great comparisons as usual, Thanks!!!
Alberto Aguilera thanks so much! Congrats on the honeymoon too!
I'm a Celestion guy all the way BUT damn, that Blackbird just kicked everyones ass!!
Its a cool speaker with 100 watt range too
Thanks mr. sillenium, I think this video is very well made and very helpful. At least it was helpful for me to take my decision when I was on the market for an alnico speaker. The Scumback S75-PVC it is one of the best piece of gear I ever acquired.
So glad it helped you out! Thx for watching
I have a buddy that uses a couple golds and they sure sound good! As you said, really depends on what a person wants from their tone. Speakers make a great difference. Do your homework before buying. :)
Yes sir!
Thank you for all you’re hard work with this shootout and the clean one. It really made a great difference in my choices... which are the Gold and the EJ, the latter which is my choice.
Those are excellent choices
All of them sounded great to me. But the first Jensen and the EJ-1250 really stood out for me.
Jeff McLowry thanks a bunch! Don't forget to subscribe
@@sillennium I have EJ-1250 12" speaker, is there any posibility to recone that speaker?
I am sure someone would do it. Check with Weber or give Eminence a call
Thanks for the video. Really useful comparisons. Particularly like the quick fire comparisons at the end.
Cheers
Sean Ten21
+Sean Kenny Thanks man, glad you dug it!
Not a bad one in the bunch. Depends on what you play and how you like it to sound. For me, I am thinking the EJ1250 because it seems to be a good all-rounder.
Thx!
Great vids. I just bought an EJ because of your last shootout. Now I need to get a Gold to pair with it. Keep 'em coming.
Fritz Nelson that is awesome you picked up the EJ-1250. It is a super cool speaker, certainly pick up a Gold, you won't be disappointed.
After watching the clean video I preferred the Jensen P12N but for the gain settings, the Celestion Gold wiped the floor with every other speaker. In fact I disliked every speaker on the gain channel apart from the Celestion Gold.
On the clean video though the Jensen P12N was everything I expected from an alnico magnet.
I don't think I'll be buying an alnico speaker because not only are they about twice the price of regular speakers, I have a 1x12 cabinet and wouldn't be happy owning just 1 of these speakers. I only liked the Jensen P12N for clean tones and I only liked the Celestion Gold for the gain sounds, there was no "1 size fits all"' for me so I'll happily stick with my Celestion G12H Heritage Greenback 55Hz. I like it, maybe 1 day I might buy a Celestion Alnico Blue or something similar and swap back & forth between the Blue and my Greenback whenever I fancy a change of tone, but I'm not too bothered about it at the moment. 👍
I just released a video showing the Gold, Ruby , and Cream alnico speakers in a gain and clean scenario. Let me know what you think of those.
ua-cam.com/video/gM1OcqKhub8/v-deo.html
5:14 Scumback SC75
3:13 Scumback S75
1:49 Celestion gold
Same riff in all these clips, there are others of them here.
Cool thx for commenting
then i'll always be the Celestion guy i've always been!
Great vid !
Lorenzoz77 thanks so much, really appreciate that. Don't forget to subscribe.
To me the Gold had the best overall sound, hate to say it but the Scumnico sounded puny..........thanks for this good A/B.
Thx so much. Glad you enjoyed the video
Gold welth great value, sounds awesome, creamy
Thanks, the gold is amazing
Thanks for the shootout. I liked most every speaker for cleans, but in this video I liked the Gold and both Scumbacks the best. I settled on a Gold (got a great deal on one) and it will compete with a Celestion G12-65 in a Fendery (blackfacey/tweedy) Vox 1x12 combo. Let's see what happens! #hyped
Thanks for stopping by!
I've been rocking the Gold now for a month and I really like it. :)
nice!
at the first chord you played with the Alnico gold, my eyes opened and I thought ''holy shit it sounds exactly like that song from The Who - Won't Get Fooled Again''
Thx glad you enjoyed it
The Gold wins for-sure, but the Weber's were left out... The Blue Dog and Silver Bell out class them all, yet the EJ Eminence is a very nice speaker !
DAVID-PAUL BEAZLEY-Jr. would love to do one with Webers some day just don't own any or have a good connection there.
sillennium I can definitely understand that. Good vid though !
I once had a Celestion speaker demo cab which was a 4 12 and there was a knob on the front to switch from one speaker to the other, seems that would be a better demo cab. I ended up recovering the cab and selling it as a normal cab, each of the 4 sections was separated like an old
Ampeg SVT bass 8-10. But I kept the wiring harness for the switching, don't know why but maybe I could share it if it's of interest to anybody.
I guess I like the Scumnico the best though it was the least loud/efficient and I think the Celestion Gold had too much mid-range.
zzubuzz I would be curious to see the wiring harness. thanks for watching the video.
"I love GOLD"!
Who doesn't love gold!
I will preface this by saying that I own the gold and love it. For the blues song you played, I liked the p12n and the EJ. For the chords at the end I preferred the gold and the scumnico.
andrewandthecatfives thanks or watching!
I'D GO FOR SCUMBACK AND EMINENCE, THANKS FOR GREAT REVIEW!
Kof Dabarber thanks man!
I guess there is no perfect speaker then. It either good clean or distorted. But I guess for me personally S75-PVC was able to do everything well enough. Thanks for the demo! Which speaker was your favorite?
AnalRectum I personally really liked the the Celestion gold and the S75-PVC. I think those two appealed to my tastes the best.
***** The V-Type is a great speaker for sure. It isn't alnico, but an awesome speaker at a great price. More people should be checking them out!
I just keep going back to the Gold...The Scumnico ...wow..subdued (Mic off?
No it wasn't
Once that gold breaks in it doesn't have any of that harsh fizz. Its a great speaker
Abram Treadwell it is for sure. Did you see they announced a cream alnico that goes up to 90w. I am super excited about that!
Another great demo thanks! I would gladly have any one of them in a heartbeat but the Jensens just came out on top for me and the S75-PVC was great too.
elams1894 thanks so much!
Thanks for the video.... It Helps!!
Awesome
Celestion gold oh my
Oh yeah!
Great demo!! *subscribed*
Robert Johnson III thanks so much!!
to these ears, BLACKBIRD by a mile.
Thx for your choice
They all sound good, I would go with the cheapest one.
Thx man. Make sure to check out my latest speaker shootout with 3 celestion alnico speakers
Nice comparison man, cgrts! For me alnico gold suits better... Seems on mids more responsive...
fpapaleo74 thanks so much! I am glad you enjoyed the video and got use out of it. Don't forget to subscribe.
Scumnico was great, and the the Paper voice coil scumnico would fit great in a mix. The gold had a weird distortion character, and the blackbird was too edgy.
Thx for listening
P12n 2:32
BB 4:34
Thx
for me the best overall (clean and dirty) speaker was the celestian gold with the scumbacks a close second. The EJ eminence model did not sound nice at all with a bit of dirt. I'd like to see a comparison of scumbacks vs webers!
green95gt I would love to include some weber speakers next time. Hopefully I can make some connections there before the next video.
JBL d120f with a 21032 cone ..but with these the gold
Celestion
if its all i had to gig with that night and forced to play through :(..
I don't think anyone is forcing you to play anything. Play what suits you
Cool, do what you can. You can't always get your backline the way you want. That is why tone is in the fingers
First question that comes to mind is how broken-in is each speaker? Golds to my ear sound harsh out of the box and warm up nicely starting at about 10-12 hours at gig volume.
drpicklo many of these speakers had an hour or two of play on them. Some even more since they were used in other demos previously.
Celestion Gold, for example, needs a solid 10-15 hours at gig volume to smooth out the high end. Double that for the hemp cone speakers. It sounds pretty good out of the box, but doesn't give it justice at an hour or two of break in.
Chris Picklo thanks for watching the video and the feedback.
have to go with gold and eminence
LaLa Tra I totally agree with you
Nice picks
i love the p12n and this video shows its great presence but it sounds a lot better once its broken in!
Patrick Stanek just my opinion but you can't really go wrong any of these alnicos.
Blackbird, then Scumback, then no thank you to the rest of them including the celestion gold.
Thats what I love about speakers... so many flavors for all different kinds of tastes. Thanks for watching. Don't forget to subscribe.
Scumnico sounds real nice
musicguy1128 Jim makes some great speakers for sure. Don't forget to subscribe.
+musicguy1128 I have the 30 watt Scumnico and a Celestion Blue.Overall the Scumnico is just as good,though a bit different.Scumnico has a more balanced response and a bit more sparkle with bit less upper mids/chime.Think a voicing between a Celestion Blue and a really good greenback(more balls than a greenback and smoother too).It's a bit tighter too.Great speaker
Hey Sillennium, did you have a favorite out of the bunch? I felt myself leaning towards the S75-PVC's because of the balance and chime when you hit a bar chord. It seemed most of the others had too much bump in the mid range. But I noticed the S75-PVC's didn't have the volume as some of the others...? Is that due to the mid range freq bump, mic placement, or something else?
+wes marden My two favorites were the Scumnico and the Celestion Gold. I also really love the EJ speaker, but for some reason it didn't pop out in this shootout as much as I thought it would.
To future watchers: take these videos (as good a concept as they are) with a grain of salt. Speakers haven't been broken in, unnamed source of distortion is buzzy and the playing is flaccid.
thx for watching
+Matt Charron Not worried about they playing, just looking for tone in relation to each other. Bought the 10" jet falcon because at least they covered it here. Great speaker, and not just "for its price" great speaker period.
The Gold and Eminence seems to me to stand out from the rest
Nice
I think the EJs were unique and fun sounding, the others pretty normal sounding.
Brian Cullen Thanks for watching. The EJ1250 is a great speaker
sillennium Does removing the bell cone on the P12N change the sound of the speaker?
I still haven't decided which speaker to go for yet. When I here the P12N I here Keith's tone from the stones, it has some ice pickyness about it but it also sounds the clearest on top and 2nd most balanced across the mid range. The EJ1250 has a marvelous mid range and uniqueness but it has this top thing that's been annoying me - I have the Cannabis Rex already and whilst its great it has a top frequency limit (the same limit the EJ1250 seems to have - its like the harmonics are cut off and seems to be an eminence trade mark sound) The reason I want another speaker is to clear up and give punch to the gain sounds and to provide some upper harmonics missing in the delightful and smoky cannabis rex. (no pun intended). Will you be doing a monsters of ceramic shootout? It seems ceramic provides more upper harmonics generally.
Brian Cullen I imagine it does, but I have no experience to say how it does. I personally like the bells on the speakers only for looks, no idea if the sound is better with them or without.
sillennium Will you do a Monsters of Ceramic shootout?
Brian Cullen I would be interested in doing that if I was able to get my hands on the right high end ceramics from multiple companies .
Gold gold gold
SHEMAMAN Thanks for watching!
fukn gold is unreal organic and revealing and in ur face but warm. fml. or dod i say that cuz i just ordered 1
Ok
Because i love my neighbours id like to give them the best the gold for me
Yes you should
wat suks tho is that with an EQ in the loop of my marshall i can get so close to ant pickup or speaker combination its so sensitive to every touch of a lever in the loop but i have gas so bad and am determined to ruin my marrage by buying 300 dollar speaker that i cuda made a smikey face out of the levers and spent the 300 on something else uggh. dam u tube
Wat!
HELLO, LOOKING FOR SOME ADVICE, IF ANYBODY HAS THEIR EARS ON !
SALVAGED JENSENS P12N AND P15N OUT OF ORGAN AND I'M INTERESTED IN PUTTING THEM IN A HORN STYLE CABINET. HOW WILL THEY SOUND AS JUST REGULAR SPEAKER CABINETS---- ANY SUGGESTIONS, COMMENT, ADVICE, WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATE------ THANKS A MILLION, HU
No leads for you here, but hopefully someone else will be able to help you.
THANKS FOR THE RSPONSE--KEEP ON
Scumnico. I have 1. Celestion Gold was too brash. You get Alnicos to smooth the fizz
ishta thanks for watching!
Hunh?? GOLD too brash?? Perfectly balanced. Good grief.
I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone
Why is that?
Where's your Weber 12", 50 watt BlueDog ALNICO? Sounds better than all of these and is USA made!!!!
Ya say that but im here cause I have the weber... and while it is good.. theres too much low end and a weird buzz with od. (Might send it in and see if theres something wrong with it.)
REALLY? I hate the sound of Weber speakers.
Hmmm I don't own one
Do you have something against playing the neck position? I never see them in your vids.
No not at all. Play it all the time actually. It's my favorite position besides pos 4 on a strat