Oshkosh Departures (Bally's Bomber!) - Sunday Part 1 - EAA AirVenture Oshkosh 2021
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2021
- Various aircraft depart from runway 36 on Sunday, August 1st at the 2021 EAA AirVenture airshow in Oshkosh, Wisconsin.
Look for Bally's Bomber and the Stinson Trimotor!
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I seen them every morning and occasionally they fly over my house low enough I can read the tail number
Bally's Bomber at 2:54
Tiny Flying Fortress was the most awesome thing I've seen in many years, whoever built that should be very proud of themselves.
The man who built it was, sadly he passed in 2020 and the man flying it now is the new owner.
He spent 30 years building it and only lived a few years after it was finished. And, strangely, he never flew it himself because he wasn't rated for multi-engine and it could only seat one.
@@ReptileRescue I'm glad he built the plane, though it seems a bit pointless to spend all that money over such a long time for a vehicle he couldn't fly. At least the new owner can.
Imagine all the famous ww2 bombers built like this , the lancaster, the he111 the b29, rhe pe8 , it would be amazing
@@Phaota Then, you just don't get it. 🙏
Ok, that bomber is the coolest thing ive seen in a long time. My Christmas list is now complete.
..Looks like an R/C B-17, that happens to be big enough to accommodate a pilot...
Is that b17 actually a flying airplane?
I think that is Jack Bally's B-17 he built in his garage by hand.
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Even the sound was cool.
Sounds like two stroke engines.
That little B17 is one of the coolest air craft I have seen in a while. Thanks for sharing.
Same here. Looks underpowered despite 4 engines.
Its takeoff was so scary
The Bally's Bomber miniature B-17 is one of the most wonderful man-made things I've ever seen or heard of AND looks entirely airworthy and fun to fly, but it may also be as uncomfortable or quirky as the aesthetically-pleasing but not for long trips Oscar Meyer Weiner-Mobile.
But the BEST parts of this phenomenal thing is it was built, single-handed using just flying model specifications and plans scaled UP 3 times in every way to make the whole thing work. Then modifications using off-the-shelf components, engines, systems and such were adjusted and added as necessary to make it all airworthy and legal. The whole concept is unprecedented, brilliant, masterful in so many ways - and repeatable!
I low key wanna know what it was before those mods..
Would love to know what engines that B-17 is using. Large scale RC radial engines? What fits in those cowls?
That mini-B-17! I could just imagine how people in WW2 would react to it.
make it a fighter!
Dropping grenades instead of bombs!
It would be the best way to compromise German AA flaks aim. =D
@@georgysb ... definitly. Though I´m not sure how this tiny Fortress reacts on some FW190.
@@Barrawitzkaa fighters wouldn't find it as ground observers would tell it flies 10km high while it's only 2km high.
I'm surprised to see Bally's Bomber there. The builder just died so I never thought we'd ever see it again. Not very many videos showing it flying! Thank you!
Well I guess it shouldn't surprise me that I 'run into you' at these various other channels since we obviously have some similar views, likes, etc. Stay safe!
@@johncashwell1024 algorithm
very sad to hear of his passing, at least he got to see his treasure fly.
When did he die?
Im sure it was after taking the pincher :(
Puts a new bend on model aircraft
Now I wanna build an SR-71 like that! 😎
I want a miniature YF-23 now
RC planes and jets keep getting bigger and bigger it doesn't surprise me that someone finally put a chair in the front
@@unkulwilly
Always wondered when it would happen - couldn’t have picked a much cooler plane, gotta get me one 👍
@@hidel308 if you do, got to call it Rosebud.
Finally, someone is flying in his model airplane. I waited so long for this to see. Great 👍
You and me both- Awesome!👍
That is EXACTLY what he did...he took RC model plans and blew them up...drank a lot of beer and fabricated EVERYTHING! I followed the whole project start to finish. Absolutely wonderful workmanship. There is another airplane out there with the same type of background...it's called the QED GeeBee absolutely gorgeous!
😂
Bally's Bomber is a work of art but it always looks like it's on the verge of a stall when flying.
Doesn't that make it even more scale -- like The Real Thing, overloaded with bombs for Adolf, and enough fuel to get it there. (And maybe even Back to England.)
@@richardjensen2769 the true b17 had plenty of power to do a graass roll over loaded....annd fly at 24000 feet at ground speed of probable 350mph....thaat experimental does look undeer powered, but the taail does not seem to get airborn very easily i would like to comapre the center of graviity between the real and the x.
The
@@JohnDoe-nd9mv B17 top speed 287mph, cruise speed 182 mph.
@@nomdeplume2117 Maximum 300 mph. at 30,000 ft.Maximum continuous263 mph. at 25,000 ft.Cruising speed170 mph.Landing74 mph.Rate of Climb37 minutes to 20,000 ft.
That scaled down B17 blew my socks off. A genuine labor of love. 👍👍👍👍
It was upscaled from an rc design!
Yep... one guy spent 17 years building it. That's some serious effort right there...
Seeing the Bally Bomber taxi I initially thought the two inboard engines were just for show. I was thrilled to see all four engines running at takeoff!
That’s how literally most of them operated during WW2. Such a fan but didn’t do any research?
@@bigbcor Rubbish, it was SOP in both the USAAF and RAF for all multi-engined aircraft to start all of their engines prior to departing from their hardstand to ensure these were all operating. Any aircraft which had engine defects were automatically scrubbed from a mission and never permitted to enter onto a common taxiway and thereby interfere with and possibly delay other ground traffic and engines were never stopped once started as doing so unnecessarily risked these not starting again. 'Research' indeed SMH.
@@harryricochet8134 Just to reply/elaborate on all 3 comments- AFTER LANDING it was common for inboards to be shut down to allow the pilot to steer the a/c easily on #1 and #4 throttles....after all, if you're below a speed where there's decent rudder authority in a tail dragger or a trike u/c without nosewheel steering, a 4 engined heavy is a fat clumsy lummox while on the ground.
As regards takeoff- all 4 should really be warmed up equally before the a/c even moves, even on modern reliable engines.
Dwarf B17 beautiful.....but seemingly would be less of a handful with more horsepower.
@@thephilpott2194 My op didn't refer to post-landing taxiing procedures which are entirely immaterial to it as well as the comment that I replied to which itself was categorically incorrect in respect to the claims it made regarding pre-flight taxiing procedure that was mentioned within the originating post of this subthread. I don't know what the intended purpose of your comment is other than a testament to your own deficient reading comprehension skills.
This is mesmerizing! When I was a Kids I used to sit & watch planes take off/ land at the Airport where my Dad kept his Bonanza...Still love it!!
The Bally Bomber is phenomenal! Very happy to see it in the air.!
Man, that Bally's Bomber looks underpowered wallowing up into the air.
I thought so too, all the flight characteristics of not enough thrust. But an awesome build nonetheless. Sad to find out Jack passed away RIP you maniac.
Well it has a full bomb load! Lol
lots of drag and small wing sa. 180hp though so should have plenty of power
IKR. 4 engines.... it should be off like a rocket
It looked underpowered and tail-heavy. I'm not sure of the flight characteristics of the B-17 but even after he had leveled out it looked nose high...or maybe he was yet to trim the aircraft. Who knows? I'm not pretending to be an expert, just an observer.
Interesting design, that Stinson trimotor! The Bally's Bomber was fun, too!
I love the reverse canter of the windshield looks really tough, but probably doesn't help airflow much
Thanks for the comment, was wondering what that was.
Now the Shriners have strategic, precision bombing capability! ;-)
One of those little model A's as a tow/tug made up like an old military 🪖 ambulance or something like that would be very cool 😎..lol...from Wyoming USA 🇺🇸 🤠
Oooh, you are scary.
But I can picture it flying down main street USA during the 4th of July parade dropping sticks of sugar bombs.
@@WilliamRWarrenJr The Bally Bomber always looks like it's flying tail heavy to me. I hope the actual weight and balance works out better than it appears to be. 🧐
A great sampling of classics, and types.
The bally bomber looks even smaller in person and super cramped inside
The B17 is the coolest aeroplane. I am reminded of my time as a DE with EASA ratings. I often flew out of Falcon Field Az with European candidates on their commercial check ride for European certificates. The local warbirds Museum flew a beautifully restored B17 among other WW2 military types. I found it upsetting that many if the twenty year olds I tested were unaware and unimpressed when sharing the pattern with various WW2 types. Sixty or seventy years older than they were. Without those machines and the men who gave their lives flying them the lives of these youngsters could be very different than the lives they knew.
TBH, I'd expect them to pay attention to their flying when taking a pilot's test - your mere presence *should* cause them to be as "professional" as they can be - don't want to taxi into a ladder rubber-necking the p-51 after all.
@@muninrob Thank you for your comments. To my mind a key part of professionalism is about awareness and communication. Regarding a check ride as being scrutinised by an inhuman being from another planet is one sure source of additional self-imposed stress, in an already stressful situation.
@@tomarmstrong1281 Yup - raw nerves keep more pilots out of an H-60's pilot seat than technical skills
That “B-17” was a marvel to behold!
The really cool bit on the Bally Bomber is that it was made from plans ment for a radio control model b-17
That Tri Motor Stinson and the Mini B17 were fantastic .
So THATS what that was. I thought it was some manner of civilian Caproni (which would, IMO, automatically win Oshkosh best plane if done well)
I'd like to see more Bally Bomber types like the B-24, C-47, B-26, P-61, etc. Anything of a dying breed would be appreciated.
It took the builder 20 years to finish the B-17, but he died not long afterwards.
Huge amount of work went into the design and construction.
A P-61 replica would be awesome no matter what scale!
Kermit Weeks had a video a while back of a guy building a 60% i think p-47. With a Warner radial
I heard that apparently Mr Bally started off wanting to do a B-24 but wrote the idea off due to tail weight. Something to do with every time the pilot would get out it would likely have tipped back on the mains and stuck its nose in the air. Which would likely make any tricycle design hard unless you could find a way to really lighten the tail. And like ziggy said it took him 20 years. Though I don't know how hard or fast he was working at the project. I imagine if someone went full time on it they might pull it off quicker with the right gear. But, as with many things worth while they require 3 things.
time, money, and skills(or willingness to learn em).
B-36. I'm 27 so let's see if I can do it before I die
Absolutely outstanding, what an amazing dedication and achievement
OK I have been a World War II aircraft buff for 50 years. This hands-down is one of the neatest things I have ever seen! You are awesome‘ love it love it love it! Keep up the good work. Keep the old warbirds alive❤️👌❤️👌❤️👌❤️👌👍👍👍
Amazing catches as always!
Thanks for sharing. Missed the show this year. Usually I see some formations or a few warbirds over our house 30 miles west of Oshkosh.
Someone needs to do similar with a mini Lancaster
That would be AMAZING. Or a Mosquito. Trimotor was gorgeous.
@@richsmith7769 wasn’t it? Awesome. And yes, the mosquito has to be one of the best looking planes of WW2.
@@nickraschke4737 or something really exotic like a Beaufighter, or Gannett. I love Gannetts, guess I'm just a weird American. A lot of us over here........weird ones, I mean.
@@richsmith7769 Hahahaha 😊
What an interesting plane the Gannet was. Getting those folding wings right would be interesting!
@@nickraschke4737 and you could probably fly it standing up..........rudders would be tricky.....damn, another bad joke.......
That B17 is an example of taking your 1/4 scale RC and flying from in the cockpit😂 poor thing looked like it just wants to stall.
Looks like a real, fully loaded B17 taking off.
If I remember correctly he built this from upscaling an rc version rather than down sizing an actual b-17. Very cool plane
Not sure how much washout in wing/airfoil profile, thick bulbous profile can tolerate higher angle of attack..will look as I re-watch!😁
*AOA/Climb looked ok, fat wing does make it look like more than 5-6° angle as he was @ low far from camera.. was probably @ best angle climb.. origional built as a long range bomber, not a T&Go plane for sure! ..so takeoffs & landings would be pretty darn FLAT.. LIKE A HEAVY LOAD GLIDER WITH POWER!🤣👍
It is underpowered
About the best variety of departing aircraft witnessed here of any OSH videos. Congrats and thanks.
The perseverance of a man and his dream is as impressive as the creation.
Bally's bomber is so impressive and unique! RIP to Mr. Bally
Thanks guys, some of the best tower operators in the business!
The mini B17 is just fantastic in every way how brilliant
What a brilliant design idea. To even have that thought is innovative!
That B17 was so cool, just Wow! Made my day! Thanks, again just Wow!
Awesome, the tiny flying fortress actually flew,I thought it was a miniature demo model.👍
I can feel my eyes burning from the aviation fuel and the smell brings me back to camping and the Coleman stove .
A mini B17. First time I have seen it. Very cool. Pure passion!
How cool is that! A Mini b-17! I love it!!!❤❤
*_Bally's Bomber_* I had no idea there
was a mini B-17, is this a first? Really nice!
For the person who wants to wage war against a very small country.
@@davidedmundson8402 Liechtenstein and Andorra better amp-up their anti-aircraft batteries.
Neither did I, and then I found out that it was built less than 15 miles from me! I recently found out that someone has been rebuilding a real B-17 for over a decade not far from where I work. So cool
Yes it is a first and only, built from scaled up r/c plans every piece fabricated by hand by a fantastic craftsman named Jack Bally.
The flying fortress is a jaw dropper..!!
Bally’s Bomber looks like it handles like a shopping cart.
Looks tail heavy
there is a video talking about its making and first flights, the builder wanted to keep everything to scale, not everything works to scale, the props are to small and it barely makes enough thrust, notice how long the take off role was and the engines were really revving hi
Overloaded and has one bad wheel
Yeah. Cute idea but looks like it handles terribly.
I appreciate the mans "True ti scale" but that beauty is way under powered! It may cost him one day!
The Bally Bomber is a cool-looking plane.
Does anyone know the type of the Blue Seaplane at 5:30 is? , My son would definitely want to know the name of that plane.
It's an Air Cam! Thanks for watching
Looks like that scaled down B-17 had no flaps on takeoff. I also have to say this reminds me of the end of the movie at a drive-in, or when the ferry docks and everyone wants to be the first off.
The Bally's bomber is the result of building an RC model big n' wide enough to room yourself. Gaves me an excellent idea.
Now that B-17 has got to be the best toy in the world anyone could have!! Awesome!
It’s basically a scale model with the controller & pilot inside. Love it.
True that! It wasn't a scaled-down version of the original; it was a scaled-up model from model plans.
Baby B17 looks like the real deal. Too cool.
That B-17 is the coolest ever!
Mini b17 looks awesome !
That mini B-17 was awesome
Unbelievable what a talented man built such beautiful b 17 ?? Just Incredibil small scale. Bravooo
What a Thing of Beauty . A B -1.7 (sic) as a Personal Aircraft . Only two Radios . One says " Hello " and the other plays the Top 40 .
My favorite aircraft were the mini B-17 Bally Bommer and the amphibious Laker Bucanier and the Erocope!
Just beautiful!!
Thank you so much. Some beautiful craft in that lot and some real novel ones too! Cheers from Sydney - Dave
Great video. Thank you!!
The Bally Bomber is so cool. What an outstanding build. So sad to hear of the builder/owner passing away. A very very talented man. Thanks for posting this unique aircraft.
What a crazy show!
Cheers to the air traffic controllers in the tower , they did a marvelous job on such a busy day - :)
Excellent video...no BS, video is crystal clear, many interesting aircraft. Bravo!
Those are a lot of beautiful aircraft!
That Experimental B-17. Geeeeezzzz…….. was that beautiful or what???
Awesome looking planes. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Wow, that's a hell of a line-up.
Totally awesome ,WOW!!!
3:00 That Plane Sounds So Cool Taking Off And Looks Stunning In The Air.
Nicely filmed and thanks for uploading.
Billy's Bomber, God please rest creator's soul. Very cool aircraft, also very nice to have a personal B 17. Who ever has the plane now, please share it with us.
Wow that B-17 is the coolest thing EVER. Take off is at 2:59
Was probably one of the most dangerous airplanes at Oshkosh to fly
Where are they all headed? That mini B-17 was undoubtedly the star of the show.
I’m not even a plane guy but that b17 is epic!
Fantastic footage. Thanks for sharing it.
All are fantastic.
What the hell, that scale B-17 is one of the most awesome and amazing planes I've ever seen 👍👍
I love all the biplanes! They have a special place in my heart. If I ever did get my pilot's license, I'd love to own and operate a biplane.
My neighbor has a Aerosport Scamp it's a experimental biplane. So no license is necessary....from Wyoming USA 🇺🇲🤠 I could send pictures, but only know how to text them.
Does the Bally Bomber look to be quite underpowered?
Yes, I thought that. He seemed quite slow and quite high angle of attack that made me worry a it as he banked very gently. Obviously well understood and controlled by the owner. Maybe it was full of stuff from the show and fuel!
Its about time someone did this.
Some of these planes are so awesome,
I wish you would caption the models as
they depart.
You do know there’s Lepp aviation who does that.
That bomber replica and TRI motor is very nice
That B17 pilot is living the dream. So nicely made. I flown in the bomber seat in sentimental journey. Best 1000$ i spent. Besides other stuff i can't say here :)
It was a pleasure to read of your good experience and values with the Flying Forts. That WAS money well-spent, an investment in quality life experience - which IS what it's ALL about. Those Forts saved our sorry butts in WW2 and that techno-miracle allowed us to HAVE most of what we enjoy(ed) in our lives - these very machines did that, from 20-year-old, slapped together panic driven design to the Flying Fortress warwinner she became - with an Air Force pilots and aircrews born(e) right along side. Well and timely said. Our head and hearts are in formation. May the fourth be with you and us.
@@jeffwalther3935 , absolutely humbling to fly in these machines in time of peace. Thinking about all these young men and women who boarded these advanced massive aircraft must have been overwhelming for a soldier who never even saw an engine running, let alone 4 enraged 1,200-horsepower Wright R-1820-97 radial engines, in time of war, loaded with a full bomb load and avgas. Over enemy territory, getting shot by fighters and flack. I was stressed out in time of peace, i can't imagine myself in their conditions in time of war. I would've been a total mess.
@@ayuse01 No Pat. Its not like that at all. If a soldier, you're entirely focused to win the war to getr any relifef youll ever enjoy. So being ". . . a total mess." is something almost EVERYBODY encounters and learns NOT to be. That's what boot camp is for - transition. If you're going into war, into the fight, you have to be almost singularly focused, unlike peaceful, civilian lifestyle you've only known and probably hardly imagine. As such, if you really anticipate going to war, you EMBRACE such training and orientation because it yields the best outcome no matter what happens. Such a reasonable attitude to the task at hand, war and combat, is just adjustment, which comes, unless there's something wrong with you.
Great footage! Great camera work!
WoW!!! That is insanely cool- fine work gents.⚡️
Would have loved to see the take-off roll of that twin engine float flying mantis🦟
I waited and waited for the Mantis but just got a view of Pitts instead.
That twin pusher with floats at 5:34 is really, really, interesting.
A.G.R.E.E.D - I think it's an AIR-CAM Seaplane
Just when I thought I'd seen everything.
That bomber is just too cool!
thanks for sharing - and for opening with thing that made me click through rather than make us wait
What a little BEAUTY!
When I was a young lad my model aircraft club had a member that flew a control line six foot wing span B-29. Only on days with no cross wind.
Bally's Bomber looks like a crazy idea but it is tought to argue why not. It is fun for sure.
Beautiful view
I thought I had seen it all! That planes a beauty!
Thank you for the video.
Fantastic!
Fantastic show of pilots planes.
Can't help but feel that the Bally bomber reminds me of a heavy fighter/interceptor. Like a psychological kind of thing to help throw off enemy fighters from the bomber group.
Such a satisfying video
Some very cool planes!