Thank you so much for your reviews! I just purchased an xe75 pro system and it is working great! For some context I currently have Century Link fiber in Washington State, and to TP Link’s credit they have a couple very useful web pages explaining how to replace Century Links proprietary “modem” (actually it’s just a router that uses PPPoE authentication and VLAN tagging) with their mesh system. Seriously, I really like how thorough and objective you are in tackling these reviews. It’s incredibly valuable to have that resource within the sea of generic tech reviews out there that do not dive deep.
Thanks a lot for your channel. Our house is currently set up on the back of your videos and our internet is working perfectly for everyone in the house
@@landpet Hello, I thank you very much for the review of the product, I was very impressed and I actually think I will choose the XE75 PRO model For delivery, could you please tell me the weight of the retail packaging in KG (including all contents from the manufacturer)
Thank you for the video. If you configure the set in « Access Point » mode and Connect every node to a 2.5gbe switch you should get faster local Speedtest in Wifi6E (>1gb) for every node. Next step for TP Link : propose at least 2 multi giga bit ports on their Deco systems. :-)
It means the routing (as the Address Translation and DHCP) is managed by your ISP’s modem/router and not by the Wifi Mesh set. In this configuration you can easely connect the satellites and the « router » nodes to your ISP’s modem/router (even through a network switch if you want) The downside is you cannot use the parental control of the wifi set.
I actually ended up buying this and didn't pay attention to it only have one 2.5 port. So basically without a switch there's no way to take advantage of the 2.5 port hard wired into a device? Since from your modem to router takes up one port, then from one router to the other would plug into the other 2.5 port so there's no where to put a line directly from the decive to the 2.5 port?
@@DomFranco I suppose. Though I have it going into the 2.5gbs port, and then the wifi itself is very fast. 30 feet away upstairs im getting 1400 download speed from my mesh access point.
Had the XE75 Pro 3 pack in the UK to go with my 900/900 near gigabit line . Upgraded from a 3 Pack M9 Deco. Positives for the XE75 Pro was slightly better range that the M9s ( all units in same place ) dont have 6e devices so on 6Htz backhaul and on AX210 Intel wifi on laptop fastest wifi speed was about 800mbs ( Main unit ). But found the system buggy, got hit by DFS radar strikes alot ( 160htz band ) so kept knocking the satellite's out. Basically hardware good but firmware support is terrible. TP link have a single person on firmware who only works Tuesdays for the whole world 😥, Very Very slow firmware updates. Returned to Amazon and went back to my Deco M9 plus, not fully using my line speed currently but more stable which is more important. Waiting to see if the firmware improves before rebuying either XE75 or XE75 Pro later.
That's really surprising that if we use the 6ghz as a backhaul connection then it can't be used to connect with 6ghz device. That means essentially it's a wifi6e mesh system which practically works like a wifi 5 system
Since he made this video, there has been an update. You can use the 6 GHz channel as either a backhaul or both you can connect device devices to it but in the settings you have to give it a separate name, and password to connect only to the six gig channel.
I was confused and had to rewind, then come and check the comment section lol. Glad I found this, I can confirm that you can create a 6ghz network with its own password. I am awaiting a new phone and look forward to testing it out!
New sub here. I had ordered a eero pro 6e and recieved it 5 days ago. Still in the box. Which I will return to order the deco since you convinced me it was the better system. I hope I don't have to hunt you down haha jk good informational content sir.
My router provided by the internet company was keeping my speeds at 1/3 what they advertise. I was paying for 500mbps and was getting about 160-200mbps. I changed my router to this and now i get 530 to 580 co sistent and the lowest i ha e gotten is about 480mbps.. Now i get more than what im paying for
Thanks for the informative review. I'm looking to upgrade from my AC1750 old router. I was looking at either the Deco XE75 Pro, or the Archer AX72 Pro with 1 or 2 of the RE700X extenders for coverage. (House is over 4,000 sq ft. and ISP provides 1GB broadband.) I don;t do gaming, just streaming and a lot of smarthome stuff, so lots of clients. I'd appreciate your opinion... thanks.
Really great video! I also checked ur other videos to finally helped me to choose this router. Just one question, is it better to use 6e chaanel as dedicated backhaul or use 6e channel myself?
Really informative video. 😊 If you don't use the 6 GHz band for backhaul (nodes too far apart) AND don't have any 6 GHz devices, is the 6 GHz band still of any use?
Thank you, great video. I just subscribed to your channel. Quick question, the 2.5 GHz port, is that to plug it into the ethernet in the wall for the backhaul? I’m thinking of upgrading from 1 gig to 2 gig Internet speed and want to know the optimal set up. I do have ethernet cables in my wall. Thank you so much.
You would need to connect that to your modem. Here’s a setup guide for the basic XE75 TP Link Deco XE75 Setup Guide | FAQ's Answered | All Configs Shown ua-cam.com/video/QVKRQDokkhE/v-deo.html
Questions - Q1: Is the app the only way to work with and configure these devices, is there a web interface? Q2: I'm pretty sure the answer is yes, just want to double check -- The ports in these devices are LAN/WAN auto-sensing, does this mean I could use the 2.5gbps for the backhaul and 1gbps port for the WAN?
@@landpet Thank you for the quick reply. Though a lot of folks use the app, one of the things I look for is a solid web interface. In your video's I would love to hear about which WiFi routers do and don't offer it. Another item that would be helpful in your videos is the power supply amp rating. You usually state the voltage (110/220v) which in important but understanding the current draw or the wattage would be helpful too. Again thank you for your videos they are very helpful!
Great video! Do you know what the up and download speed is when having a wireless backhaul but connecting directly via ethernet rather than WiFi to the second node (which is wirelessly conneced to the main node)? I'm planning on using the second node as a WiFi bridge and was hoping I can get at least 500Mbps out of it.
It is typically better than the wireless backhaul speeds. I’ve done videos demoing this with WiFi 7 mesh systems. Like the deco BE85 which is much faster than this but to illustrate the point. Insane Wireless Speeds - TP Link Deco BE85 Speed Test ua-cam.com/video/y9fiQqi_egA/v-deo.html
Sorry to bother you but I’m hoping you can give me a quick reply on this. I just ordered the two pack of this system and I’m hoping it will cover my house entirely but if I need a bit more of a mesh setup, would I be able to add the single Deco AX1800 WiFi 6 Mesh System (Deco X20) as another node to this 6e system? Thanks for any help on this. Love the videos and I bought this system based on your recommendation.
I would like to add a correction I purchased this very system with a two node or two router system. I don't know when but there has been an update and you can use the 6H channel now as a channel and a backhaul you can use it as both.
@@landpet I agree with you, but lots of people were asking why can't you use the six gig band as a dedicated connection for devices that can use it I was simply letting people know that they came
Heller, Nice videon, will buy that next week. Have XE75 not pro can add that Pro system on my XE75 run in my home. Will they run seamless in my network. Regards from Sweden.
Thank you!! Your videos are gold! I have a theoretical question: Should my ISP provide 2.5 Gbps with a more than capable modem, could the 2.5 Gbps port on a satellite node provide me with a connection faster than 1 Gbps? (less than 2.5 Gbps but more than 1 Gbps) Tplink's website advertises 2402 Mbps on 6 GHz so I wonder if there is a sweet spot distance wise between router and nodes to maximize the capabilities while in the process using the 2.5 Gbps port on the satellite node.
Thanks! I don't believe so, from all my local area testing, I have never seen a mesh wifi go over gigabit speeds, some of them were shy of gigabit speeds but none were over. Maybe WiFi7 will make that possible?
If your ISP speed is likited to 1GB, why are you not using one of the 1GB ports as your WAN entry point? That would free the 2.5G port for the backhaul so they are all at the same local speed. From what I understand these have auto sensing for WAN/LAN on any port.
Yes you can do that and get faster lan speeds. I've tested that, I mention this in some videos but in most cases most people will opt to use the faster port for internet regardless of the ISP speeds
Thx for the video. Is it possible to combine wired and wireless backhaul? For me 1 unit would be behind 4 walls so i would prefer wired backhaul for this one. The second one would be on the ground floor just below the first one (connected to the router). I have no cable ready so i would use wireless backhaul for this one.
Hello, I thank you very much for the review of the product, I was very impressed and I actually think I will choose the XE75 PRO model For delivery, could you please tell me the weight of the retail packaging in KG (including all contents from the manufacturer)
@@landpet Thanks for your help (I know that) but it doesn't make sense that it's the net weight including all the contents in the retail package for the 3 unit version For example, just for illustration and after personal testing by the P9 PLUS model with 3 units Weighs 3.5 kg retail packaging including all contents So it cannot be that the PRO model (3 units) weighs 4.12 pounds which is 1.86 kg
Another great review. I have the TP Link M9 Plus mesh router system and am considering upgrading to the 6E system. The Deco app appears to be different. Does the app for this system have a Test Internet Speed option? Also, is there an Anti Virus section with options to activate a Malicious Content Filter, an Intrusion Prevention System and an Infected Device Quarantine button? I did not see a Network Optimization option either. Thanks.
Thanks! I don’t see an internet speed test in the deco app. No additional protection by default, check out Homeshield Pro for that (requires subscription). There is a network optimizer which is included.
Thanks for letting me know. It looks like TP Link has moved some features I have with the M9 Plus mesh system into a paid tier which is not ok. I use the Test WiFi Speed option in my Deco app all the time to check my internet speed at the router and any router app without that option is a router I will never purchase. The search for a good WiFi 6 or 6E router continues.
@SassySam we have 2 units in a 3,000 sq. ft. home and the system works really well. We have used this mesh system for almost 3 years and it has been very reliable. No drops. Any issues we have had have always been with our ISP. The app is straightforward and easy to use. I highly recommend the system. Please note however - this is a WiFi 5 system so it is a little dated. You will be capped at 867 mbps on the 5 ghz band. If you plan on getting gigabit internet in the near future, you will have to upgrade your system.
@SassySam you’re welcome. The landpet channel is one of the best channels on UA-cam. I have learned so much from him. Make sure you check out his other reviews.
Hi there! thank youf roy the video- great content!! Quick question- are the "regular" tp link wirleess extenders compatible with this technology? Or in order to extend in anyway...it needs to be from the Deco family?
No problem! I think the extenders can extend (haven't tried it) but it's not recommended since that would go through another means. Simply put, it needs to be from the Deco family for it to be properly extended within the same network and for things to properly hand off wifi devices from one Node to another. Also, you will see all the nodes in the Deco app if they are all from the Deco family.
I am trying to decide between the XE75 Pro and the Asus ZenWiFi Pro ET12. I would be using the wireless backhaul and have 1.2 gig internet with a 2000 square foot single level house. Which would you choose?
Hi, I had a query I hope you can help! Looking at your range test - are you able to advise how many walls these were tested through? As I know solid walls can affect the range - thanks!
Is it true that the only difference between this one and the non “pro” is the 2.5GB port? Are there any other differences? Bought a wifi nest pro and returned it after watching your comparison video with the regular XE75
Hi, I'm based in the UK. I wanted to buy this model but I wanted to ask what other models in the tp deco range has 2x 2.5gbps ports, one to connect to the main router / modem and one 2.5gbps for backhaul. Are there any other brands that are in the same price range as this xe75 pro version and possibly have more than one 2.5gbps port. I definitely need a guest network and I don't know any brands that offer parental controls, security features, software without paying for them. Please clarify or share some video links to the above queries. If I had the money I'd get the orbi top end range, but there's no way I'm paying £1500+ for it.
So i wanna ask you something, we live in a big house with many devices connected to the internet Our internet is coming from a fiber optic but its really far from where live and use your devices Like the fiber optic is like 10 meters away and we live in the far portion of the house (our house is 340 meters square) and we are struggling real bad Like fiber optic is good but it has a mediocre range So, which tp model is the best for me X60,XE75,XE75pro or X90 Factoring in the price Its really urgent and i need an answer
If I have one hard wired and connected to the other two wirelessly, can I connect my desktop or a switch to the wireless ones so it would have internet connection? My house doesn’t have Ethernet capabilities in all the rooms and it’s too much to run myself. My son is always gaming and I want to move his setup to his room but his computer doesn’t have WiFi capabilities and his room doesn’t have Ethernet jacks.
You can use the Ethernet ports on these even if they’re wirelessly connected to the main router. However the speeds will tend to be slower because it’s still considered wireless backhaul
Only if you plan on getting internet speeds faster than gigabit and up to 2.5Gbps, other than that there’s really no difference in your current situation.
I think last time I checked the speed rating should be the same since the individual bands have the same speeds. The speed rating comes from the summation of the maximum speeds of each band. Each band has a theoretical maximum for throughput granted in the real world those numbers are never reached. For example: if your WiFi device (phone, tablet, laptop, etc) is connected on the 5GHz band. The theoretical maximum on the 5GHz band for these two Deco systems are the same at 2402Mbps. In a theoretical world, your wifi device can get to this speed but your wifi device has a max, your Ethernet cable has a max, your switch has a max, your modem has a max, the site or link you are trying to reach has limitations and wifi speeds are shared with other wifi devices. So by the time it gets from the WiFi device to destination, you are nowhere near the max speeds. This is how the speed rating is determined, the 5400 is an estimate AXE5400 = (AXE = WiFi6E) & (~5400 = 2402 Mbps from 6GHz + 2402 Mbps from 5GHz + 574 Mbps from 2.4GHz)
I used to use the Arris SB8200 with Spectrum for Cable. Now I use an ONT provided by ISP since I moved and switched to Fiber Internet. It's best to call your ISP and see what's compatible with their system.
I currently have the Orbi RBK752 (one satellite) AX4200 in a 2300 square foot two-storey home and have 1.0 Gbps download and 50 Mbps upload with my ISP and I am considering switching to TP-LINK DECO XE75 AXE5400 Tri-Band Mesh Wi-Fi 6E System - 3-pack. Do you recommend I make the switch?
Probably not since the 752 is already pretty good from what I remember. The real advantage would be that it's a 3 pack instead of a 2 pack but you could also just get another satellite for your Orbi system. The Deco is better but not by much compared to the Orbi 752. Just an FYI, I really like Orbi's numbering system since it tells me how many units are in the pack: The RBK752 (the number at the end says how many units, so in this case it would be 2 which means one router and one satellite). The Orbi RBKE963 (has 3 units, 1 router and 2 satellites).
hello friend, I am your new subscriber, notice that I have that model, but when I put the wifi 6 with backhaul, my samsung s22 ultra does not detect the wifi 6E, the SSID is supposed to have 6GHz termination and it does not detect it, and In the announcement of the deco it says that band 6E is only for traffic, but you mention that if you could use it as Wi-Fi, then I'm confused, is band 6 free to use it as Wi-Fi with equipment? or is it only dedicated for traffic between decos?
Thanks for subscribing! The short answer is that it’s an option, you can either use it as a dedicated wireless backhaul in which WiFi 6E devices will not see it. This will typically speed up your wireless backhaul. Or you can use it as both a wireless backhaul and have WiFi 6E devices connect to it, however in this option the wireless backhaul will not be as fast. You can find this option in the WiFi said configuration page where you setup your WiFi name.
thanks for your answer friend, if I already put it backhaul and apart from wifi, the problem is that my galaxy s22 ultra does not detect the 6E network, that is, the network name does not appear on the cell phone, I do not know if it is that I am from Mexico and the cell phone does not have the band released?
Hi Landpet. I spent the weekend trying to troubleshoot the Deco xe75. I have Fios1gb internet, no cable., direct input via cat6 from ONT. Was literally getting 10-20 mb up and down in front of the router with whatever device I threw at it. Ethernet connected was capping right before 100mb. I tried everything. Different cables, swapping ports, removing it and starting from scratch, changing multiple different settings, resetting the ONT, etc... I hooked up my old router (Amplifi Alien) and back to normal. Hoping you can help as I have read others who have encountered this same issue. What are we missing?! (turning on QoS and bumping the #'s did not work either).
I have an ONT through Frontier with similar speeds. I connected it via a Cat7 cable and got the speeds no problems. Try a factory reset, I don't know why it would do that. Just in case, try updating the firmware on the Deco. Also try to connect an ethernet device like a PC or something and try the speed test on that to see what's happening. I'm wondering if your devices are connecting directly to the 2.4GHz band. Verify the 5GHz band is enabled as well.
@@landpet thanks so much for the response, unfortunately, I tried all of the above. Very possibly a defective unit, although, I'm wondering if it had anything to do with DHCP not refreshing after swapping out the routers. How long do you leave your ONT unplugged when you swap out routers for testing? I did mine for 5 minutes.
Parental control have problem I added one of my laptop in parental. It gets disabled during bedtime after that when it gets enabled the laptop shows as connected by no internet. Did you see this kind of problem?
I have for some samples where I show one of the speeds for the videos, but it makes the video too long if I’m showing every scenario since I test many. The charts are easy to understand and organized.
I currently have fiber internet through att is there anyway to use my own fiber ONT I currently have their bgw 320 gateway router which has an ont built in. I would love to use my own equipment I am not having the best experience with theirs
If you can disable that router portion of it, you can get this and use it. You can also use this in access point mode if you can’t disable the built in ONT router. My ONT is just an ONT, no router built in.
Yes if you want to keep that built in router active. You can also disable that router portion of the modem/router combo by setting it to bridge mode (which essentially disables it) or disabling it if there is an explicit option for that. Then you can run the Deco in router mode which is what I recommend
I'm getting a spike in ping every 10-20 seconds to my gateway. 5ms-20ms no packet loss then jumps to 180-240ms for a second then back down.. playing havoc for gaming. My download speeds are amazing max out my cox 1gig plan just can't figure out this ping.. any ideas? My orbi 6e system I was trying out would never ping above 80ms..
You don't have a modem/router combo do you? If so, make sure you disable the router portion of it by putting it in bridge mode. If your modem/router combo is also emitting a wifi signal, these two will not play nicely together. Also make sure, your Deco isn't hidden somewhere, it's best to put it out in the open not super close to other electronics (at least a couple feet apart). If you're using it in wireless backhaul, I would at least try enabling the 6GHz as a dedicated backhaul to see if that improves things. My speeds are fairly fast and consistent with this unit. If one of these nodes is close to your gaming pc or console, even if it's on wireless backhaul, you can still connect an ethernet cable to it from your device, I would think that should improve things.
This product .. in a nutshell, you can't. I'm pretty sure even in AP mode you need two 2.5GbE ports on the TP (ISP and Ethernet Backhauling). If you want 2.5GbE mesh WiFi then I'd recommend UniFi equipment with at minimum $500 Dream Machine SE (UDM-SE), [2, 3 or more] $300/ea U6 Enterprise APs, and a switch with at least the minimum number of 2.5GbE or 10GbE ports needed with sufficient PoE to power the APs at 2.5GbE or faster speeds e.g. $480 USW-Enterprise-8-PoE . Alternative example $1,500 3 pack of Orbi 960 Series Quad-Band WiFi 6E. To be clear, unless you have faster than 1GbE ($75/mo) and I soon will have 2.5 GbE myself FiOS fiber ($175/mo) .. It makes very little sense to worry about having your two satellites 2.5GbE speeds .. The primary TP-Link if you're not using wireless backhauling I believe we'll have the 2.5Gbps speeds and a good managed switch should allow excess speeds above 1GbE P2P, not internet speeds.
Well put. One thing I can add is that if your internet is up to gigabit. You can use the gigabit port on the deco to connect to the internet and for Ethernet backhaul, you can go from 2.5gbps port on the Deco to a switch that supports 2.5Gbps port then to the other deco 2.5Gbps port. Then you can hook up your devices to that switch and get a faster LAN, not faster internet. Faster LAN can help with faster speeds throughout devices that support it like getting some files from a NAS. In most cases, most people don’t need this special setup, hence if you don’t have the faster internet then you don’t really need something with a 2.5Gbps port. In summary, things are typically bottlenecked by the slowest of the ports they are interconnected with. Think of the 2.5Gbps port as an up to 2.5Gbps assuming everything down the line supports those speeds
OK I HAVE A ISSUE I BUY THIS WITH 3 PACK BUT I WANT TO USE ALL 2.5 PORTS AS A BACKHAUL AS A Multi-Gig wired backhaul I CAN NOT DO THAT BECAUSE THERE IS ONLY 1 2.5 PORT ON EACH SO WHY DO I WANT TO BUY THIS IF I CAN NOT USE IT AS A Multi-Gig wired backhaul
As an aside, one feature of this system, that I am guessing many other systems support, is IPTV. I had an issue trying to get an unmanaged switch to work with this system because I (accidentally) had IPTV enabled on port 2 of the main unit (also using wired backhaul to second node with port 1). I never heard of IPTV before, and I don’t currently have any use for it, but once I disabled IPTV I was able to get the switch to work. I think it might be very informative for you to do a video to explain a bit about more advanced network features such as IPTV, VLAN and IPv6. In particular, should I enable IPv6 at all? Does it matter? Thanks for all your good work!
Maybe I can do a video on it in the future. Most people don't need IPTV or VLAN. IPv6 depends on your ISP, so in Japan, I believe they are using IPv6, in America we typically use IPv4, so enabling that is useless. IPv4 is basically 4 octet IP addresses where IPv6 is six octet IP addresses. VLANs are Virtual Local Are Networks, so if you want to create separate networks within one network, that's what a VLAN is for which most people don't want. IPTV is for set top boxes which most people don't need which just so happens to reserve a port for that.
Have a TPlink Deco XE75 Pro, can't even figure how to turn any device on or off as far as network connectivity goes... The simplest of things, just enable/ disable any device's connection with a touch of a button, you know - like I've done on any router I've ever owned. TPlink has no phone support, don't respond to e mails. No matter how router test might end up, no support and failing on the mist basic of things is an epic fail. Does anyone know how to control any of the devices connection ? I'm beyond pissed
Are you controlling it with the Deco app? There are a few options in there albeit nowhere near as much options as an ASUS router but it does have some control.
@landpet I have since found a few areas that can get it done. It's not as straight forward as it should be. Hope the software jeeps getting better. Router seems fine XE75 Pro. Liked your reviews and comparisons!
Great review once again!! I have a question if you provide your expertise.... I currently have a deco mesh system (3 x M5s and 2 x e4s) and am thinking of upgrading to a Unifi/Omada system. I have pre-emptively run the cabling required for APs when I was installing cctv. However, the main reason I would like a SDN system is for vlans... I do like the simplicity of the mesh systems like the one you've just reviewed... and the wide availability of 6E on mesh products vs Unifi/Omada makes me question which is best for me (do not really want to purchase wifi6 APs to then want/have to upgrade them later down the line to 6E ) So my question is ... are there any mesh systems that allow vlan configuration? I
Thanks! I do believe Asus mesh systems support VLAN. ASUS ET8 is one that also supports WiFi 6E. Generally speaking, ASUS has the most options from any mesh.
I just got these xe75 pro and immediately wanted to test the wireless backhaul. My test is a computer connected to each access point by ethernet (1gbit) and testing using iperf between the two computers. The fastest I'm seeing is about 300mbit/s. I'm pretty sure my test is good because when i test the two machines on ethernet hanging from a single xe75 i get close to the theoretical 1gbit max of the switch ports and nics. I don't know if something has changed with these devices since you've done your test but I would expect to see the 1gbit speed even over the wireless backhaul. I'm curious exactly what your test is from your phone to server, what software are you using to run the test?
I did a full video on this: ua-cam.com/video/9NIHAmVkomk/v-deo.html Everything matters on the test, from the ports to the cables to the wifi device you're using and the distance
@@landpet I’ll check out the software. Thanks! How are you forcing your phone to a certain access point to make sure it’s using the wireless bridge? Have you tried Ethernet client -> wifi access point -> wireless bridge -> access point -> Ethernet server during your tests?
I observed very similar behaviour to this, I was unable to break 300mbit/s unless I was standing on top of the mesh node at which point I could get 600mbit. I really don't think this is model is that good. Take a look at how much the wireless performance drops off with distance.
I constantly have to reset this router. It works normally. I have gigabit Internet, but sitting right next to the device on regular 5g, I get about 300Mb/s. IF I connect to the WiFi 6e channel, I get about twice that amount, but never close to the gigabit Internet. If I connect directly to one of the Ethernet ports on the device I get the full gigabit. Ultimately this would be fine for me. But after a while, the speeds drop way down and I can only get 100Mb/s max. If I reset the Xe75, the speeds return. Why do I have to do this at least once per day?
Either you have a defective device or you may have a modem/router combo in which the router portion of that should be disabled otherwise those two signals are clashing with each other. Also double check you have the latest firmware.
I went ahead and purchased this. Wasted a whole day trying to figure out why pages don't load properly only to find out MTU is set by default at 1500 and my ISP says I have to make it 1400. Bestg part? There's no option to change it on this router! Absolute garbage by TP-Link, asked for a return and refund.
So i wanna ask you something, we live in a big house with many devices connected to the internet Our internet is coming from a fiber optic but its really far from where live and use your devices Like the fiber optic is like 10 meters away and we live in the far portion of the house (our house is 340 meters square) and we are struggling real bad Like fiber optic is good but it has a mediocre range So, which tp model is the best for me X60,XE75,XE75pro or X90 Factoring in the price Its really urgent and i need an answer
So i wanna ask you something, we live in a big house with many devices connected to the internet Our internet is coming from a fiber optic but its really far from where live and use your devices Like the fiber optic is like 10 meters away and we live in the far portion of the house (our house is 340 meters square) and we are struggling real bad Like fiber optic is good but it has a mediocre range So, which tp model is the best for me X60,XE75,XE75pro or X90 Factoring in the price Its really urgent and i need an answer
Depends on a number of things like how fast is your connection, are you running wired or wireless backhaul, how many devices are you using? The safe answer is the XE75 Pro should be good for the price.
Thank you so much for your reviews! I just purchased an xe75 pro system and it is working great! For some context I currently have Century Link fiber in Washington State, and to TP Link’s credit they have a couple very useful web pages explaining how to replace Century Links proprietary “modem” (actually it’s just a router that uses PPPoE authentication and VLAN tagging) with their mesh system.
Seriously, I really like how thorough and objective you are in tackling these reviews. It’s incredibly valuable to have that resource within the sea of generic tech reviews out there that do not dive deep.
You are welcome! I should've responded sooner, glad to hear your Deco is working well!
@@landpet Hi. Can you solve this gigabit -2.5 gigabit wired connection gigabit speed limit worh 2.5 gig switch? If soy does it have to be managed
I've watched about 6 of your videos and the quality of your content have earned you another subscriber! Good work, and thank you for the content!
Awesome, thank you!
Thanks a lot for your channel. Our house is currently set up on the back of your videos and our internet is working perfectly for everyone in the house
Glad to hear it helped out!
@@landpet Hello, I thank you very much for the review of the product, I was very impressed and I actually think I will choose the XE75 PRO model
For delivery, could you please tell me the weight of the retail packaging in KG (including all contents from the manufacturer)
Amazing video! No one makes router reviews like you 🙌
Glad you like them!
Thank you for the video. If you configure the set in « Access Point » mode and Connect every node to a 2.5gbe switch you should get faster local Speedtest in Wifi6E (>1gb) for every node.
Next step for TP Link : propose at least 2 multi giga bit ports on their Deco systems. :-)
What does configure the set in access point mode mean?
It means the routing (as the Address Translation and DHCP) is managed by your ISP’s modem/router and not by the Wifi Mesh set. In this configuration you can easely connect the satellites and the « router » nodes to your ISP’s modem/router (even through a network switch if you want)
The downside is you cannot use the parental control of the wifi set.
I actually ended up buying this and didn't pay attention to it only have one 2.5 port. So basically without a switch there's no way to take advantage of the 2.5 port hard wired into a device? Since from your modem to router takes up one port, then from one router to the other would plug into the other 2.5 port so there's no where to put a line directly from the decive to the 2.5 port?
@@DomFranco I suppose. Though I have it going into the 2.5gbs port, and then the wifi itself is very fast. 30 feet away upstairs im getting 1400 download speed from my mesh access point.
Had the XE75 Pro 3 pack in the UK to go with my 900/900 near gigabit line . Upgraded from a 3 Pack M9 Deco. Positives for the XE75 Pro was slightly better range that the M9s ( all units in same place ) dont have 6e devices so on 6Htz backhaul and on AX210 Intel wifi on laptop fastest wifi speed was about 800mbs ( Main unit ).
But found the system buggy, got hit by DFS radar strikes alot ( 160htz band ) so kept knocking the satellite's out. Basically hardware good but firmware support is terrible. TP link have a single person on firmware who only works Tuesdays for the whole world 😥, Very Very slow firmware updates.
Returned to Amazon and went back to my Deco M9 plus, not fully using my line speed currently but more stable which is more important. Waiting to see if the firmware improves before rebuying either XE75 or XE75 Pro later.
Great content. Appreciate the thorough videos. Watched a few now. Probably buying this system for my house.
Thanks for watching! This system is very good for the price
That's really surprising that if we use the 6ghz as a backhaul connection then it can't be used to connect with 6ghz device. That means essentially it's a wifi6e mesh system which practically works like a wifi 5 system
Since he made this video, there has been an update. You can use the 6 GHz channel as either a backhaul or both you can connect device devices to it but in the settings you have to give it a separate name, and password to connect only to the six gig channel.
I was confused and had to rewind, then come and check the comment section lol. Glad I found this, I can confirm that you can create a 6ghz network with its own password. I am awaiting a new phone and look forward to testing it out!
Thanks all for posting this! Glad we can use 6 ghz for both devices and back haul.
New sub here. I had ordered a eero pro 6e and recieved it 5 days ago. Still in the box. Which I will return to order the deco since you convinced me it was the better system. I hope I don't have to hunt you down haha jk good informational content sir.
Thanks for subbing! The eero is good but this is better for wireless backhaul performance.
Very helpful, thanks! Love your reviews.
Thanks! Appreciate the feedback
My router provided by the internet company was keeping my speeds at 1/3 what they advertise. I was paying for 500mbps and was getting about 160-200mbps.
I changed my router to this and now i get 530 to 580 co sistent and the lowest i ha e gotten is about 480mbps..
Now i get more than what im paying for
Have them the pro like it a lot seems pretty solid boost my Wi-Fi coverage and speed a lot
Yup, its really good
Never mind. I see where you did review them. Watching now.
No worries
Thanks for the informative review. I'm looking to upgrade from my AC1750 old router. I was looking at either the Deco XE75 Pro, or the Archer AX72 Pro with 1 or 2 of the RE700X extenders for coverage. (House is over 4,000 sq ft. and ISP provides 1GB broadband.) I don;t do gaming, just streaming and a lot of smarthome stuff, so lots of clients. I'd appreciate your opinion... thanks.
Really great video! I also checked ur other videos to finally helped me to choose this router. Just one question, is it better to use 6e chaanel as dedicated backhaul or use 6e channel myself?
Thanks! For wireless backhaul setup, it’s better to use the 6GHz as a dedicated backhaul.
Really informative video. 😊 If you don't use the 6 GHz band for backhaul (nodes too far apart) AND don't have any 6 GHz devices, is the 6 GHz band still of any use?
Thanks! That is correct, no use at that point.
Good work. Exactly what I was looking for
Glad to hear it!
Awesome testing, hopefully the new iPhone 15 will have wifi 6E and more devices like their tablets and laptops
Thanks!, hopefully iphone 15 will also have usb-c :)
Thank you, great video. I just subscribed to your channel. Quick question, the 2.5 GHz port, is that to plug it into the ethernet in the wall for the backhaul? I’m thinking of upgrading from 1 gig to 2 gig Internet speed and want to know the optimal set up. I do have ethernet cables in my wall. Thank you so much.
You would need to connect that to your modem.
Here’s a setup guide for the basic XE75
TP Link Deco XE75 Setup Guide | FAQ's Answered | All Configs Shown
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Thanks for the in-depth review!
Np
Questions - Q1: Is the app the only way to work with and configure these devices, is there a web interface? Q2: I'm pretty sure the answer is yes, just want to double check -- The ports in these devices are LAN/WAN auto-sensing, does this mean I could use the 2.5gbps for the backhaul and 1gbps port for the WAN?
Q1: Yes - www.tp-link.com/us/support/faq/87/
Q2: Yes
@@landpet Thank you for the quick reply. Though a lot of folks use the app, one of the things I look for is a solid web interface. In your video's I would love to hear about which WiFi routers do and don't offer it. Another item that would be helpful in your videos is the power supply amp rating. You usually state the voltage (110/220v) which in important but understanding the current draw or the wattage would be helpful too. Again thank you for your videos they are very helpful!
thanks buddy great review, do you know if you can manually change wifi channels on these?
no problem, I can't remember that being an option.
Hello nice video... Whats is the difference between the axe 5300 and the axe 5400.....thank you
same due
Great video! Do you know what the up and download speed is when having a wireless backhaul but connecting directly via ethernet rather than WiFi to the second node (which is wirelessly conneced to the main node)? I'm planning on using the second node as a WiFi bridge and was hoping I can get at least 500Mbps out of it.
It is typically better than the wireless backhaul speeds. I’ve done videos demoing this with WiFi 7 mesh systems. Like the deco BE85 which is much faster than this but to illustrate the point.
Insane Wireless Speeds - TP Link Deco BE85 Speed Test
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Sorry to bother you but I’m hoping you can give me a quick reply on this.
I just ordered the two pack of this system and I’m hoping it will cover my house entirely but if I need a bit more of a mesh setup, would I be able to add the single Deco AX1800 WiFi 6 Mesh System (Deco X20) as another node to this 6e system?
Thanks for any help on this. Love the videos and I bought this system based on your recommendation.
Yes you can add another deco. All deco systems are compatible with each other.
I would like to add a correction I purchased this very system with a two node or two router system. I don't know when but there has been an update and you can use the 6H channel now as a channel and a backhaul you can use it as both.
Yes, there is an option for that. But using it as a dedicated backhaul provides better performance for wireless backhaul typically
@@landpet I agree with you, but lots of people were asking why can't you use the six gig band as a dedicated connection for devices that can use it I was simply letting people know that they came
Heller,
Nice videon, will buy that next week.
Have XE75 not pro can add that Pro system on my XE75 run in my home. Will they run seamless in my network.
Regards from Sweden.
You can mix and match and deco, so yes the pro and non pro will work with each other
@@landpet Thanks for info, after have installed that pro can change that to main think can do that what have read on tp-link support site.
Thank you!! Your videos are gold! I have a theoretical question: Should my ISP provide 2.5 Gbps with a more than capable modem, could the 2.5 Gbps port on a satellite node provide me with a connection faster than 1 Gbps? (less than 2.5 Gbps but more than 1 Gbps) Tplink's website advertises 2402 Mbps on 6 GHz so I wonder if there is a sweet spot distance wise between router and nodes to maximize the capabilities while in the process using the 2.5 Gbps port on the satellite node.
Thanks! I don't believe so, from all my local area testing, I have never seen a mesh wifi go over gigabit speeds, some of them were shy of gigabit speeds but none were over. Maybe WiFi7 will make that possible?
If your ISP speed is likited to 1GB, why are you not using one of the 1GB ports as your WAN entry point? That would free the 2.5G port for the backhaul so they are all at the same local speed. From what I understand these have auto sensing for WAN/LAN on any port.
Yes you can do that and get faster lan speeds. I've tested that, I mention this in some videos but in most cases most people will opt to use the faster port for internet regardless of the ISP speeds
Thx for the video. Is it possible to combine wired and wireless backhaul? For me 1 unit would be behind 4 walls so i would prefer wired backhaul for this one. The second one would be on the ground floor just below the first one (connected to the router). I have no cable ready so i would use wireless backhaul for this one.
No problem. Yes, you can combine wired and wireless backhaul
Hello, I thank you very much for the review of the product, I was very impressed and I actually think I will choose the XE75 PRO model
For delivery, could you please tell me the weight of the retail packaging in KG (including all contents from the manufacturer)
no problem. I don't see the weight on the package, you can reach out to TP-Link for specifics. Amazon has the 3 pack set at 4.12 pounds
@@landpet Thanks for your help (I know that) but it doesn't make sense that it's the net weight including all the contents in the retail package for the 3 unit version
For example, just for illustration and after personal testing by the P9 PLUS model with 3 units
Weighs 3.5 kg retail packaging including all contents
So it cannot be that the PRO model (3 units) weighs 4.12 pounds which is 1.86 kg
Another great review. I have the TP Link M9 Plus mesh router system and am considering upgrading to the 6E system. The Deco app appears to be different. Does the app for this system have a Test Internet Speed option? Also, is there an Anti Virus section with options to activate a Malicious Content Filter, an Intrusion Prevention System and an Infected Device Quarantine button? I did not see a Network Optimization option either. Thanks.
Thanks! I don’t see an internet speed test in the deco app. No additional protection by default, check out Homeshield Pro for that (requires subscription). There is a network optimizer which is included.
Thanks for letting me know. It looks like TP Link has moved some features I have with the M9 Plus mesh system into a paid tier which is not ok. I use the Test WiFi Speed option in my Deco app all the time to check my internet speed at the router and any router app without that option is a router I will never purchase. The search for a good WiFi 6 or 6E router continues.
@SassySam we have 2 units in a 3,000 sq. ft. home and the system works really well. We have used this mesh system for almost 3 years and it has been very reliable. No drops. Any issues we have had have always been with our ISP. The app is straightforward and easy to use. I highly recommend the system. Please note however - this is a WiFi 5 system so it is a little dated. You will be capped at 867 mbps on the 5 ghz band. If you plan on getting gigabit internet in the near future, you will have to upgrade your system.
@SassySam you’re welcome. The landpet channel is one of the best channels on UA-cam. I have learned so much from him. Make sure you check out his other reviews.
Any plans on reviewing the XE200? I'm curious as I need to upgrade from my OG orbi rbr50 and looking at the XE200.
Yes, that’s what I’m using now. Wrapping up, will have the video by next week.
Hopefully sooner since I have to start on the nest WiFi pro
Hi there! thank youf roy the video- great content!! Quick question- are the "regular" tp link wirleess extenders compatible with this technology? Or in order to extend in anyway...it needs to be from the Deco family?
No problem! I think the extenders can extend (haven't tried it) but it's not recommended since that would go through another means. Simply put, it needs to be from the Deco family for it to be properly extended within the same network and for things to properly hand off wifi devices from one Node to another. Also, you will see all the nodes in the Deco app if they are all from the Deco family.
I am trying to decide between the XE75 Pro and the Asus ZenWiFi Pro ET12. I would be using the wireless backhaul and have 1.2 gig internet with a 2000 square foot single level house. Which would you choose?
I would choose the Deco BE63 for your situation
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@@landpet Thank you for the quick response. I will give the BE63 a try.
thank you for great review
my country supports 240 volt, if the are any problem if i order it from Amazon US
Thanks!
I'm not 100% sure but generally speaking if you have a modem with an ethernet cable, these should work just fine.
Most of the new devices can’t pick up wifi 6E so it’s a mute point right now to even buy a new 6E system
That does make sense but 6GHz can be used for dedicated wireless backhaul which really makes a difference.
Hi, I had a query I hope you can help! Looking at your range test - are you able to advise how many walls these were tested through? As I know solid walls can affect the range - thanks!
When I’m outside and I’m walking away from it, it’s 2 walls
Can you use the electrical wiring to give a wired backhaul or are you better to use wifi?
You can use that but I’m not sure how well it works compared to just using wireless backhaul.
Is it true that the only difference between this one and the non “pro” is the 2.5GB port? Are there any other differences? Bought a wifi nest pro and returned it after watching your comparison video with the regular XE75
That's pretty much the only difference from what I remember, I think in my testing the Pro got slightly better range but it was almost negligible.
So all said and done - this OR a 3-pack XE65 Pro in 2024?!?
I haven’t tried the XE65 Pro, so can’t say
Hi, I'm based in the UK. I wanted to buy this model but I wanted to ask what other models in the tp deco range has 2x 2.5gbps ports, one to connect to the main router / modem and one 2.5gbps for backhaul.
Are there any other brands that are in the same price range as this xe75 pro version and possibly have more than one 2.5gbps port.
I definitely need a guest network and I don't know any brands that offer parental controls, security features, software without paying for them.
Please clarify or share some video links to the above queries.
If I had the money I'd get the orbi top end range, but there's no way I'm paying £1500+ for it.
So i wanna ask you something, we live in a big house with many devices connected to the internet
Our internet is coming from a fiber optic but its really far from where live and use your devices
Like the fiber optic is like 10 meters away and we live in the far portion of the house (our house is 340 meters square)
and we are struggling real bad
Like fiber optic is good but it has a mediocre range
So, which tp model is the best for me
X60,XE75,XE75pro or X90
Factoring in the price
Its really urgent and i need an answer
Hey, my friend. I’m thinking about picking this up. I have a Arris s33 modem. Will that work with this? Is there a better modem option? Thanks!
Yes, this Deco will work fine with that. Arris makes good modems, should be fine assuming it's compatible with your ISP.
@@landpet Thanks so much!!
Quick question why they require an account let say if you only want to use and configure their mesh system other brands have the option to opt-out
I'm not sure why it's mandatory, some of them require an account, this being one of them.
If I have one hard wired and connected to the other two wirelessly, can I connect my desktop or a switch to the wireless ones so it would have internet connection? My house doesn’t have Ethernet capabilities in all the rooms and it’s too much to run myself. My son is always gaming and I want to move his setup to his room but his computer doesn’t have WiFi capabilities and his room doesn’t have Ethernet jacks.
You can use the Ethernet ports on these even if they’re wirelessly connected to the main router. However the speeds will tend to be slower because it’s still considered wireless backhaul
I just got the XE75 should I exchange it for the XE75 Pro? Is the pro worth the upgrade? I’m paying for 1ghz internet currently.
Only if you plan on getting internet speeds faster than gigabit and up to 2.5Gbps, other than that there’s really no difference in your current situation.
What's the difference between axe5400 vs axe5300 ? I'm confused
I think last time I checked the speed rating should be the same since the individual bands have the same speeds. The speed rating comes from the summation of the maximum speeds of each band.
Each band has a theoretical maximum for throughput granted in the real world those numbers are never reached. For example: if your WiFi device (phone, tablet, laptop, etc) is connected on the 5GHz band. The theoretical maximum on the 5GHz band for these two Deco systems are the same at 2402Mbps. In a theoretical world, your wifi device can get to this speed but your wifi device has a max, your Ethernet cable has a max, your switch has a max, your modem has a max, the site or link you are trying to reach has limitations and wifi speeds are shared with other wifi devices. So by the time it gets from the WiFi device to destination, you are nowhere near the max speeds.
This is how the speed rating is determined, the 5400 is an estimate
AXE5400 = (AXE = WiFi6E) & (~5400 = 2402 Mbps from 6GHz + 2402 Mbps from 5GHz + 574 Mbps from 2.4GHz)
@@landpet Thanks for the informative response. Regarding the coverage range, is there any difference between them AXE5400 vs AXE5300?
@Sword He didn’t answer the mf-ing question did he?! 😡
What cable modem do you recommend for this? I use Xfinity and have downloads of 2.5 gbps. Lots of mixed reviews online.
I used to use the Arris SB8200 with Spectrum for Cable. Now I use an ONT provided by ISP since I moved and switched to Fiber Internet. It's best to call your ISP and see what's compatible with their system.
I currently have the Orbi RBK752 (one satellite) AX4200 in a 2300 square foot two-storey home and have 1.0 Gbps download and 50 Mbps upload with my ISP and I am considering switching to TP-LINK DECO XE75 AXE5400 Tri-Band Mesh Wi-Fi 6E System - 3-pack. Do you recommend I make the switch?
Probably not since the 752 is already pretty good from what I remember. The real advantage would be that it's a 3 pack instead of a 2 pack but you could also just get another satellite for your Orbi system. The Deco is better but not by much compared to the Orbi 752.
Just an FYI, I really like Orbi's numbering system since it tells me how many units are in the pack:
The RBK752 (the number at the end says how many units, so in this case it would be 2 which means one router and one satellite). The Orbi RBKE963 (has 3 units, 1 router and 2 satellites).
Does the xe75 support create different SSID for IOT ? because I have a lot of smart home devices that work on 2.4ghz
XE200 supports that from what I remember, XE75 doesn't
hello friend, I am your new subscriber, notice that I have that model, but when I put the wifi 6 with backhaul, my samsung s22 ultra does not detect the wifi 6E, the SSID is supposed to have 6GHz termination and it does not detect it, and In the announcement of the deco it says that band 6E is only for traffic, but you mention that if you could use it as Wi-Fi, then I'm confused, is band 6 free to use it as Wi-Fi with equipment? or is it only dedicated for traffic between decos?
Thanks for subscribing!
The short answer is that it’s an option, you can either use it as a dedicated wireless backhaul in which WiFi 6E devices will not see it. This will typically speed up your wireless backhaul. Or you can use it as both a wireless backhaul and have WiFi 6E devices connect to it, however in this option the wireless backhaul will not be as fast.
You can find this option in the WiFi said configuration page where you setup your WiFi name.
thanks for your answer friend, if I already put it backhaul and apart from wifi, the problem is that my galaxy s22 ultra does not detect the 6E network, that is, the network name does not appear on the cell phone, I do not know if it is that I am from Mexico and the cell phone does not have the band released?
What’s better for performance dedicated backhaul or network and backhaul?
Dedicated backhaul if you're running it in wireless backhaul
@@landpet thank you
@@landpet I never said thank you but thank you very much!!
If you was to purchase a WiFi mesh system out of eero pro 6e or deco which would you buy
Both very good, I prefer Deco a bit more because of the better price per performance
@landpet which one would you say is faster comparing the both systems
Eero pro 6e or deco
Hi Landpet. I spent the weekend trying to troubleshoot the Deco xe75. I have Fios1gb internet, no cable., direct input via cat6 from ONT. Was literally getting 10-20 mb up and down in front of the router with whatever device I threw at it. Ethernet connected was capping right before 100mb. I tried everything. Different cables, swapping ports, removing it and starting from scratch, changing multiple different settings, resetting the ONT, etc... I hooked up my old router (Amplifi Alien) and back to normal. Hoping you can help as I have read others who have encountered this same issue. What are we missing?! (turning on QoS and bumping the #'s did not work either).
I have an ONT through Frontier with similar speeds. I connected it via a Cat7 cable and got the speeds no problems. Try a factory reset, I don't know why it would do that. Just in case, try updating the firmware on the Deco. Also try to connect an ethernet device like a PC or something and try the speed test on that to see what's happening. I'm wondering if your devices are connecting directly to the 2.4GHz band. Verify the 5GHz band is enabled as well.
@@landpet thanks so much for the response, unfortunately, I tried all of the above. Very possibly a defective unit, although, I'm wondering if it had anything to do with DHCP not refreshing after swapping out the routers. How long do you leave your ONT unplugged when you swap out routers for testing? I did mine for 5 minutes.
Parental control have problem I added one of my laptop in parental. It gets disabled during bedtime after that when it gets enabled the laptop shows as connected by no internet. Did you see this kind of problem?
Nothing like that has happened to me, maybe delete the profile and redo the setup?
Does it support setting status LAN addresses and port forwarding? Thanks
Yes it supports static IP addresses (www.tp-link.com/us/support/faq/1795/) and port forwarding.
Why wouldn't you show the internet speedtest on screen? Seems deceptive 🤔
I have for some samples where I show one of the speeds for the videos, but it makes the video too long if I’m showing every scenario since I test many. The charts are easy to understand and organized.
I currently have fiber internet through att is there anyway to use my own fiber ONT I currently have their bgw 320 gateway router which has an ont built in. I would love to use my own equipment I am not having the best experience with theirs
If you can disable that router portion of it, you can get this and use it. You can also use this in access point mode if you can’t disable the built in ONT router. My ONT is just an ONT, no router built in.
Does the range test consider the range for 1 single router?
Yes I walk away from a router
If I have a 2in1 router/modem from my existing ISP, do I have to setup the Deco nodes in Access Point mode?
Yes if you want to keep that built in router active. You can also disable that router portion of the modem/router combo by setting it to bridge mode (which essentially disables it) or disabling it if there is an explicit option for that. Then you can run the Deco in router mode which is what I recommend
@@landpet Have put my router in bridge mode but now me deco has a solid red light appearing and is not connecting?
Have put deco in router mode too
I have 2 axe5400 (not pro), can I buy another axe5400 pro and make it the main router?
Yes
xe75 pro or asus xt8? ET8 not available where I live. Also seeing a lot of bad reviews on the Asus system on consistency and drop outs
XE75 Pro for me
@@landpet thanks
How do you check your isp incoming Internet speed on this unit?
You could get the speedtest app by ookla on your phone and run the speed test while your phone is connected via wifi.
@@landpet I was trying to see if if could tell me the incoming speed from the isp not the wifi speed . Other routers apps will tell you that.
I'm getting a spike in ping every 10-20 seconds to my gateway. 5ms-20ms no packet loss then jumps to 180-240ms for a second then back down.. playing havoc for gaming. My download speeds are amazing max out my cox 1gig plan just can't figure out this ping.. any ideas? My orbi 6e system I was trying out would never ping above 80ms..
You don't have a modem/router combo do you? If so, make sure you disable the router portion of it by putting it in bridge mode. If your modem/router combo is also emitting a wifi signal, these two will not play nicely together. Also make sure, your Deco isn't hidden somewhere, it's best to put it out in the open not super close to other electronics (at least a couple feet apart). If you're using it in wireless backhaul, I would at least try enabling the 6GHz as a dedicated backhaul to see if that improves things. My speeds are fairly fast and consistent with this unit. If one of these nodes is close to your gaming pc or console, even if it's on wireless backhaul, you can still connect an ethernet cable to it from your device, I would think that should improve things.
What are the speeds like when you connect a pc to the 2.5gb port on the second Xe75
This product .. in a nutshell, you can't. I'm pretty sure even in AP mode you need two 2.5GbE ports on the TP (ISP and Ethernet Backhauling). If you want 2.5GbE mesh WiFi then I'd recommend UniFi equipment with at minimum $500 Dream Machine SE (UDM-SE), [2, 3 or more] $300/ea U6 Enterprise APs, and a switch with at least the minimum number of 2.5GbE or 10GbE ports needed with sufficient PoE to power the APs at 2.5GbE or faster speeds e.g. $480 USW-Enterprise-8-PoE .
Alternative example $1,500 3 pack of Orbi 960 Series Quad-Band WiFi 6E.
To be clear, unless you have faster than 1GbE ($75/mo) and I soon will have 2.5 GbE myself FiOS fiber ($175/mo) .. It makes very little sense to worry about having your two satellites 2.5GbE speeds .. The primary TP-Link if you're not using wireless backhauling I believe we'll have the 2.5Gbps speeds and a good managed switch should allow excess speeds above 1GbE P2P, not internet speeds.
Well put.
One thing I can add is that if your internet is up to gigabit. You can use the gigabit port on the deco to connect to the internet and for Ethernet backhaul, you can go from 2.5gbps port on the Deco to a switch that supports 2.5Gbps port then to the other deco 2.5Gbps port. Then you can hook up your devices to that switch and get a faster LAN, not faster internet. Faster LAN can help with faster speeds throughout devices that support it like getting some files from a NAS.
In most cases, most people don’t need this special setup, hence if you don’t have the faster internet then you don’t really need something with a 2.5Gbps port.
In summary, things are typically bottlenecked by the slowest of the ports they are interconnected with. Think of the 2.5Gbps port as an up to 2.5Gbps assuming everything down the line supports those speeds
@@landpet This is exactly the thing i would like to know . thanks!
OK I HAVE A ISSUE I BUY THIS WITH 3 PACK BUT I WANT TO USE ALL 2.5 PORTS AS A BACKHAUL AS A Multi-Gig wired backhaul I CAN NOT DO THAT BECAUSE THERE IS ONLY 1 2.5 PORT ON EACH SO WHY DO I WANT TO BUY THIS IF I CAN NOT USE IT AS A Multi-Gig wired backhaul
You want something like the Asus et12
As an aside, one feature of this system, that I am guessing many other systems support, is IPTV. I had an issue trying to get an unmanaged switch to work with this system because I (accidentally) had IPTV enabled on port 2 of the main unit (also using wired backhaul to second node with port 1). I never heard of IPTV before, and I don’t currently have any use for it, but once I disabled IPTV I was able to get the switch to work.
I think it might be very informative for you to do a video to explain a bit about more advanced network features such as IPTV, VLAN and IPv6. In particular, should I enable IPv6 at all? Does it matter? Thanks for all your good work!
Maybe I can do a video on it in the future. Most people don't need IPTV or VLAN. IPv6 depends on your ISP, so in Japan, I believe they are using IPv6, in America we typically use IPv4, so enabling that is useless. IPv4 is basically 4 octet IP addresses where IPv6 is six octet IP addresses. VLANs are Virtual Local Are Networks, so if you want to create separate networks within one network, that's what a VLAN is for which most people don't want. IPTV is for set top boxes which most people don't need which just so happens to reserve a port for that.
Can I use that 2,5 gbp port for a 1 gbp connection?
Yes
what are the difference between deco xe75 and deco xe75 pro
XE75 pro has a 2.5Gbps port, the XE75 doesn’t.
@@landpet but my internet router is very simple do you think 2.5 g port will help in speed?
Which is better Deco WiFi 6e or Eero WiFi 6e?
Deco 6E
Question: if I connect my modem to the 1Ghz port and use the 2.5GHz port for wired back haul. Would that be a better wired backhaul configuration ?
Yes assuming your Internet speeds are gigabit or less
Have a TPlink Deco XE75 Pro, can't even figure how to turn any device on or off as far as network connectivity goes...
The simplest of things, just enable/ disable any device's connection with a touch of a button, you know - like I've done on any router I've ever owned.
TPlink has no phone support, don't respond to e mails.
No matter how router test might end up, no support and failing on the mist basic of things is an epic fail.
Does anyone know how to control any of the devices connection ?
I'm beyond pissed
Are you controlling it with the Deco app? There are a few options in there albeit nowhere near as much options as an ASUS router but it does have some control.
@landpet
I have since found a few areas that can get it done.
It's not as straight forward as it should be.
Hope the software jeeps getting better.
Router seems fine XE75 Pro.
Liked your reviews and comparisons!
@@mikebarra6828 glad to hear it
Great review once again!!
I have a question if you provide your expertise....
I currently have a deco mesh system (3 x M5s and 2 x e4s) and am thinking of upgrading to a Unifi/Omada system. I have pre-emptively run the cabling required for APs when I was installing cctv.
However, the main reason I would like a SDN system is for vlans... I do like the simplicity of the mesh systems like the one you've just reviewed... and the wide availability of 6E on mesh products vs Unifi/Omada makes me question which is best for me (do not really want to purchase wifi6 APs to then want/have to upgrade them later down the line to 6E )
So my question is ... are there any mesh systems that allow vlan configuration? I
Thanks! I do believe Asus mesh systems support VLAN. ASUS ET8 is one that also supports WiFi 6E. Generally speaking, ASUS has the most options from any mesh.
I just got these xe75 pro and immediately wanted to test the wireless backhaul. My test is a computer connected to each access point by ethernet (1gbit) and testing using iperf between the two computers. The fastest I'm seeing is about 300mbit/s. I'm pretty sure my test is good because when i test the two machines on ethernet hanging from a single xe75 i get close to the theoretical 1gbit max of the switch ports and nics. I don't know if something has changed with these devices since you've done your test but I would expect to see the 1gbit speed even over the wireless backhaul. I'm curious exactly what your test is from your phone to server, what software are you using to run the test?
I did a full video on this: ua-cam.com/video/9NIHAmVkomk/v-deo.html
Everything matters on the test, from the ports to the cables to the wifi device you're using and the distance
@@landpet I’ll check out the software. Thanks! How are you forcing your phone to a certain access point to make sure it’s using the wireless bridge? Have you tried Ethernet client -> wifi access point -> wireless bridge -> access point -> Ethernet server during your tests?
I observed very similar behaviour to this, I was unable to break 300mbit/s unless I was standing on top of the mesh node at which point I could get 600mbit. I really don't think this is model is that good. Take a look at how much the wireless performance drops off with distance.
Is it better than Asus xt8 ?
It supports wifi 6e but it does have a slight slower speed rating. For the price, it is more bang for your buck. I think it's a better buy.
@@landpet how about range?
bet you cant figure out how to add a sengled light to the Zigbee hub on an eero 6 pro and eero wont respond on it eather
This is a good example of why I don’t like being tied down to a hub since there are alternate smart home devices that don’t require a hub.
@@landpet I finally figured it out!! but by accident! I appreciate all that you're doing
@@tlcustard69 glad it worked out for you!
I constantly have to reset this router. It works normally. I have gigabit Internet, but sitting right next to the device on regular 5g, I get about 300Mb/s. IF I connect to the WiFi 6e channel, I get about twice that amount, but never close to the gigabit Internet. If I connect directly to one of the Ethernet ports on the device I get the full gigabit. Ultimately this would be fine for me. But after a while, the speeds drop way down and I can only get 100Mb/s max.
If I reset the Xe75, the speeds return. Why do I have to do this at least once per day?
Either you have a defective device or you may have a modem/router combo in which the router portion of that should be disabled otherwise those two signals are clashing with each other. Also double check you have the latest firmware.
I went ahead and purchased this. Wasted a whole day trying to figure out why pages don't load properly only to find out MTU is set by default at 1500 and my ISP says I have to make it 1400. Bestg part? There's no option to change it on this router! Absolute garbage by TP-Link, asked for a return and refund.
Asus should have that option. I haven’t checked on this if it’s possible
@@landpet Although ASUS is $150 more expensive, I'm seriously considering it. I just need someone to confirm 100% that changing MTU is possible
So i wanna ask you something, we live in a big house with many devices connected to the internet
Our internet is coming from a fiber optic but its really far from where live and use your devices
Like the fiber optic is like 10 meters away and we live in the far portion of the house (our house is 340 meters square)
and we are struggling real bad
Like fiber optic is good but it has a mediocre range
So, which tp model is the best for me
X60,XE75,XE75pro or X90
Factoring in the price
Its really urgent and i need an answer
So i wanna ask you something, we live in a big house with many devices connected to the internet
Our internet is coming from a fiber optic but its really far from where live and use your devices
Like the fiber optic is like 10 meters away and we live in the far portion of the house (our house is 340 meters square)
and we are struggling real bad
Like fiber optic is good but it has a mediocre range
So, which tp model is the best for me
X60,XE75,XE75pro or X90
Factoring in the price
Its really urgent and i need an answer
Depends on a number of things like how fast is your connection, are you running wired or wireless backhaul, how many devices are you using?
The safe answer is the XE75 Pro should be good for the price.