Most Insane Disc Release of the DECADE?!?

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  • @mattsoup4121
    @mattsoup4121 4 місяці тому +36

    I’m just a rocket scientist, so aerodynamics are way beyond me, but I’m guessing that because the center of mass isn’t the center of the disc you’re getting amplified aerodynamic effects from the light side of the disc whipping into the air, kind of like it seems you were getting at. I think especially when it fades that’s what’s happening, because you’d be exaggerating the magnus effect (I think disc fade is related to that, like a sideways spinning golf ball). Maybe the weird turn behavior is also related to it being off center from some sort of gyroscopic effect. Gyroscopic precession is weird but if you look up a video called “dancing t handle in zero g” you can see a really cool example of weird gyroscopic stuff.

    • @kevinfoote3092
      @kevinfoote3092 4 місяці тому +5

      I’m no rocket scientist, but I was a race car engineer, and this is dead on. The center of pressure is between the center of rotation and the geometric center of the disc, and this is what causes the wobble. When it slows down near the end of the flight, I suspect this increases the amount of detached turbulent air flow, and it gets worse more quickly than a standard disc, resulting in the sharper curve than normal at the end of the flight. This all said, it is certainly consistent enough that you could use it to your advantage in some situations.

    • @alechackett165
      @alechackett165 4 місяці тому +6

      I’m no rocket scientist…. But as a quantum rocket surgeon I can confirm your hypothesis. The gyroscopic wobble being an exaggerated Magnus effect seems to be the correct diagnosis. My recommended operation for this issue would be to graft some of the large side thereby creating a perfectly circular aerodynamic throwing device. This will create less of a Magnus effect and a more predictable response to the air. The surgery is fairly low risk.

    • @gabriellopez620
      @gabriellopez620 4 місяці тому

      ​@@alechackett165😂

    • @mattsoup4121
      @mattsoup4121 4 місяці тому +4

      Just remember, if an aerodynamicist ever tells you they fully understand something they’re lying.

    • @XenoFireStar
      @XenoFireStar 4 місяці тому

      Quick aside, I'm pretty sure if disc fade was magnus effect related, it would go the other way. I am by no means a fluid dynamics expert, but i'm pretty sure turn and fade come from whether the center of lift is in front or behind the center of mass.

  • @TrashPandaDiscGolf
    @TrashPandaDiscGolf 4 місяці тому +61

    👽♻️🥏

  • @richardp6461
    @richardp6461 4 місяці тому +28

    I don't like to laugh at people in pain.......But the water bottle thing is good. One time I threw a red disc way up in a ponderosa pine tree. I could see it up there and tried for 3 days to get it down. Finally, I enlisted the help of a friend that could throw a stick farther than me, and he hit it and knocked it down. I went to grab it, but it wasn't mine. It was like the twilight zone. I never found my disc.👀 Long story for the algorithm.

    • @LoganBarry-op7br
      @LoganBarry-op7br 4 місяці тому

      speaking of lost discs, you just reminded me that i threw my hatchet into a pond (after it hit a tree that i swear i didn’t see until it was hit by the disc) night sad now.

    • @HonduDan
      @HonduDan 4 місяці тому

      This pretty much sums up an amateur "career" in disc golf, doesn't it? These plastic discs we throw so gleefully do some wild and crazy things.

  • @xDadx69
    @xDadx69 4 місяці тому +9

    We need Nick Krush DG the Aerospace engineer to analyze these 😂

  • @KrusenCreations
    @KrusenCreations 4 місяці тому

    I just want to say that all of the work you've been putting in to edit these videos is incredible. The editing, flow, comedy, and just overall composition of this video is immaculate. Really well done

  • @LeBrendon_James
    @LeBrendon_James 4 місяці тому +9

    The intro goes crazy

  • @brennanmt
    @brennanmt 4 місяці тому +1

    The logo on the box is an E & T, that also make a disc golf basket. Really clever and well done logo design.

  • @leeChMSI
    @leeChMSI 4 місяці тому +10

    whole epic video please...as someone that has owned multiple over the years and keeps one in the bag currently
    Edit: epics are tunable and personally i find thumbers to be drastically easier with them

  • @dustinroberson1865
    @dustinroberson1865 4 місяці тому +1

    I have an epic at home that I threw quite a bit back when they came out (mostly tomahawks). Physics would tell you that holding the disc in a different spot wouldn't effect the flight characteristics due to it being a spinning round object. The only thing would be comfort of holding the disc.

  • @Dangkles
    @Dangkles 4 місяці тому +1

    You should draw a clock on the bottom rim to help you refer to different positions

  • @Saculmit
    @Saculmit 4 місяці тому +1

    I think people with smaller hands will appreciate being able to throw their comfortable 8ish speed rim and still get 9.5 speed flight characteristics out of it.

  • @iBenJammin
    @iBenJammin 4 місяці тому +7

    Don't make a tomahawk quota with the Epic unless you get a very serious pitchers warm-up. Don't wreck yer shoulder

    • @BodanzaDiscGolf
      @BodanzaDiscGolf  4 місяці тому +1

      Don't worry, I'd be fine but I'll check with my trainer beforehand. I'm more certain than not that we train in the ranges of motion required!

    • @caseysmith544
      @caseysmith544 4 місяці тому

      @@BodanzaDiscGolf How ET is legal is because disc is max on one side and the Aerobe epic helped set the maximum driver width because of skinny side even though most brands did not disc made in 14--15 speed off center discs are not ban but the way Aerobe did with Epic is Illegal apparently as you can make a slightly off-center disc provided all parts are round.

  • @pimpustthugni
    @pimpustthugni 4 місяці тому

    The epic is tunable. If I remember correctly, you bend it down to make it more understable and bend it up if you want it more overstable. It's for sure one of the funkiest discs out there and I have one in my collection. Should definitely make a full video with it.

  • @zekeforgey4552
    @zekeforgey4552 4 місяці тому

    an aunt had a bunch of old mostly base plastic discs she gave to me, and there was an epic in there, which was a nice surprise. too stable for my armspeed.

  • @abfutrell
    @abfutrell 4 місяці тому +2

    Might be good disc for adaptive disc golfers like myself. Due to congenital issues, speed 11/12 disc is about the max rim width I can throw consistently.

    • @caseysmith544
      @caseysmith544 4 місяці тому +1

      Or smaller hand people like me who can wear boys/kids XL, women's Small, or men's/unisex XS in gloves.

  • @Jack.Sharpe
    @Jack.Sharpe 4 місяці тому

    I'm a forehand-tomahawk only kinda guy and would love to see Jake Wolff rip on one of these. A lot of discs you have to have a lot of power to get the full tomahawk flight and it looks like that disc is trying to do it even though you don't usually throw that way.

  • @adambroussard8192
    @adambroussard8192 4 місяці тому +3

    I’m guessing the center of gravity isn’t in the middle of the disc. Which is why it looks like it’s wobbling side to side in the air

    • @BodanzaDiscGolf
      @BodanzaDiscGolf  4 місяці тому +1

      ooh! I didn't even think of this, cool though!

  • @jrottendevil
    @jrottendevil 4 місяці тому

    I'm still mad I lost my new baja Dune last week in long grass at Fehringer. I had my number on it but still haven't gotten a call or text. Pretty cool they let you announce the next disc. I knew they had to be working on something even though the Ozone just dropped.

  • @falamahala
    @falamahala 4 місяці тому

    Gotta get that Epic to barrel roll and flatten out. When done correctly, it's one of the cooler flights a disc can make. I believe in you!

  • @JoshJackson13
    @JoshJackson13 4 місяці тому

    The sneaky edit was pretty Cool. Nice job

  • @Glantzy
    @Glantzy 4 місяці тому

    Very interesting to see it change based on which part of the disc you're holding

  • @homerclark9553
    @homerclark9553 4 місяці тому

    Thank you for your insights on the ET II

  • @OnlyBandzzzDG
    @OnlyBandzzzDG 4 місяці тому +1

    I’m honestly home baby. Can’t wait to pick this one up.

    • @SunshineBr0
      @SunshineBr0 4 місяці тому

      Same! I hope they make white ones out the gate to dye 🤤

  • @MammothMan35
    @MammothMan35 4 місяці тому

    My theory is that you can change your spin rate by gripping the disc in different spots. This would explain why you get different flights because different spin rates at the same speed will fly differently

  • @Thomasstearns42
    @Thomasstearns42 4 місяці тому

    I think the rim change creates wobble and its the wobble that makes it fight out so fast. Its lessened at higher speeds/spin so it flips but as soon as it slows the wobble increases creating fade.

  • @AshTheDoinker
    @AshTheDoinker 4 місяці тому

    change your camera to 60 fps and crank the shutter speed to at least 1/120 or 1/240, go higher if you have the light to do so. you will be able to get really clean slow motion renders on a 30fps timeline and figure out your forehand wobble issue.

  • @nomad182
    @nomad182 4 місяці тому +3

    hi, crazy Doomsday weirdo disc frolfling here,
    I'M ORDERING 5.

  • @brennanreeves5707
    @brennanreeves5707 4 місяці тому +1

    New logo looks sick! (I’ll tell you it appears in the video but not where to avoid spoiling it) :)

    • @BodanzaDiscGolf
      @BodanzaDiscGolf  4 місяці тому

      haha yeah ik, It's been visible more and more in each video i "hide" it ;)

  • @TravisL303
    @TravisL303 4 місяці тому +4

    It’s a 9 hole course but we sometimes add a hole 10 for league and tournaments.

  • @jordanivie1990
    @jordanivie1990 4 місяці тому

    I would love to see some numbers from this thing with a tech disc device connected to it, And the disc thrown from different spots on the disc. I bet there would be some difference in rpm’s.

  • @Braddley77
    @Braddley77 4 місяці тому

    I have an Epic Disc. When tomahawking the disc you need to almost throw it like you are throwing a curve ball. It’s hard to explain but you need to snap/curve the throw out of your hand. The disc will flop on its backside and fly for ever.

  • @tepro1612
    @tepro1612 4 місяці тому +3

    Best disc golf content on yt

    • @BodanzaDiscGolf
      @BodanzaDiscGolf  4 місяці тому

      thank you!
      watch J Milly if you haven't yet, his stuff is PRIMO

  • @romanagne
    @romanagne 4 місяці тому

    Idk if I have any business throwing a disc like this, but this video made me want one

  • @jmillydg
    @jmillydg 4 місяці тому +2

    I’m no rocket scientist but bodanza the 🐐

    • @BodanzaDiscGolf
      @BodanzaDiscGolf  4 місяці тому

      @@jmillydg maybe the kid bc you’re the 🐐

  • @HolyCityDisc-iples
    @HolyCityDisc-iples 4 місяці тому

    We need a TechDisc puck on the ET2. My guess is the rim thickness at grip is mainly tweaking the angular velocity (rate of spin).

    • @BodanzaDiscGolf
      @BodanzaDiscGolf  4 місяці тому +1

      Agreed, I had a segment I cut from the vid where I talked about it bc I was too rambly lolol

  • @timweber7165
    @timweber7165 4 місяці тому +1

    I believe gateway had a disc named the extraterrestrial so e2 would make sense.

  • @profchaos9734
    @profchaos9734 4 місяці тому

    What was the old school innova disc with the mismatched rim like that?? I had one, never got the hang of it and lost it somewhere. I think it might have been a Hammer??
    The rim on the innova was much more pronounced. The wide part of the rim was def 14 speed or higher.

  • @anitabonghit266
    @anitabonghit266 4 місяці тому

    Centennial is a fun little track. That creek has eaten many of my discs

  • @justwondering1926
    @justwondering1926 4 місяці тому

    Hope you tune the epic when you make a video with it so you throw it for a bunch of different shots using its different stabilities. Looked like you needed a little flippier for that tomahawk to get that extra pan.

  • @Willitbass
    @Willitbass 22 дні тому

    If you had a 2nd channel with edited version of these long videos it would be amazing

  • @daemn42
    @daemn42 4 місяці тому

    Agree with the numbers (5 seems generous.. 4 a bit harsh) so 4.5 seems right), but would subtract 1 (or at least .5) from turn and fade, due to elevation. So 9.5 4.5 -1.5 +2.5 It's going to be flippier at sea level. And I know enough about physics.... to know that I haven't a clue how this thing works. Would be cool to get a tech disc puck on one. I'll bet that the spin rate varies a lot depending on where you grip it, and that drives how long it holds turn, and how fast it fades.

    • @BodanzaDiscGolf
      @BodanzaDiscGolf  4 місяці тому

      I think the turn and fade are more right than not but I can see that for being in the realm I'd put it. I more compare it to other discs in my head when evaluating flight numbers, but I think yours could be right on too!

  • @ryanmussell739
    @ryanmussell739 4 місяці тому

    Love the production effects.
    Prefer the midnight uploads.
    * midnight gang represent.

  • @anthonymartin6237
    @anthonymartin6237 4 місяці тому

    the whole point of the varying rim width is tuning. If you're not tuning it, it's just a regular fairway driver. Should go look up tuning with the Epic.
    Also, said with love: as a "physics person", virtually nothing you said makes sense.

  • @chrisfielding
    @chrisfielding 4 місяці тому

    blue and orange? yuk! Roll Tide. Cool disc and cool video

  • @micahcavender6073
    @micahcavender6073 4 місяці тому

    Do you think that different release points with thickness variation allow for a different RPM and allow for variable stability based off of the RPM?

  • @ProfessorPoliwag
    @ProfessorPoliwag 4 місяці тому

    The intro scene was awesome!

  • @BenWaggoner-oe7tz
    @BenWaggoner-oe7tz 4 місяці тому +3

    Your videos are so good

  • @JonDoWrong
    @JonDoWrong 4 місяці тому

    it is like taking a boomerang and making it into a disc

  • @Baking_baked
    @Baking_baked 4 місяці тому

    Wow. Literally watched beard meats food right before this and had the exact same music playing at the beginnning. It was like dejavu

  • @karlstrobeck6846
    @karlstrobeck6846 4 місяці тому

    Seems like an 11 speed with a 21.1cm diameter and 16.9 inside rim diameter - same dimensions as a Wraith or Mamba. So the small side of the rim on the ET is probably 1.8cm and the large side is 2.4cm for an average of 2.1cm

  • @AndrewWilde
    @AndrewWilde 4 місяці тому

    Website says “for public release August 5th” on the product announcement. So that’s pretty exciting”. New disc soon??

  • @dustinroberson1865
    @dustinroberson1865 4 місяці тому

    You're saying crazy things lol.
    The rotation that you are saying might keep the disc in the air on anhyzer is going to be pulling the same all the way around it's flight. So the heavy side may try to pull the disc up when it's traveling up, but as soon as that part of the disc gets to the other side of it's rotation, it will be pulling the disc down with the same force. When it flies in the air, you see it pulse, that is the disc pulling forward as the weight rotates to the front, but then pushing back towards you when the weight moves to the back. If you were able to spin it fast without the disc moving in any direction, it would look like it was out of balance or that a shaft wasn't quite drilled in the center of it.

  • @greg_loper
    @greg_loper 4 місяці тому

    Just gonna say that the intro was phenomenal!

  • @gspotgregg967
    @gspotgregg967 4 місяці тому

    Neighbors saw bodanza walking around in the panda costume and thought literally nothing of it. Just another day in the life for the Q-word boy.

  • @DolphaysDiscGolf
    @DolphaysDiscGolf 4 місяці тому

    So excited for this!!!!

  • @corbincross319
    @corbincross319 4 місяці тому

    u need to throw ur tomahawks with the bottom of the disc pointed towards the sky more. look at the angles ben and jake wolf throw theirs on. the top of the disc should be more pointed towards your body.

  • @mattsoup4121
    @mattsoup4121 4 місяці тому +1

    You’re on to something with using sprinklers to accelerate pro play.

  • @waydirtysanchez
    @waydirtysanchez 4 місяці тому

    That damn water bottle has been haunting you since the circuit challenge. Centennial!

    • @BodanzaDiscGolf
      @BodanzaDiscGolf  4 місяці тому +1

      Different one luckily, I would’ve broken my foot if it was the metal one!!!

  • @villekonttinen5018
    @villekonttinen5018 4 місяці тому

    Couldn't help but wonder; If they fly "wobbling", would they just crash and sit on a roller shot instead of rolling or would they roll all skip jumpy like. Hard to imagine they would just roll neatly like other discs. Also would they get a "boost" thanks to the wobbling on a low skip shot on hard ground... Although the skip direction might be unpredictable depending on which part of the rim hits the ground🤔

  • @brianb6969
    @brianb6969 4 місяці тому

    I'd Love to win one of them. I'm a 55yo Vet that Watches Everyone in the Disc Golf Game. I Live for this Content! Awesome, and Interesting Video!! Ever Heard of an ABC Discs, "Flying Squirrel"? I Have One.

    • @BodanzaDiscGolf
      @BodanzaDiscGolf  4 місяці тому +1

      Yeah! They're cool, I've thrown one on the channel in a "my patrons hate me" mystery box video, and the lightweight version in my dino discs video!

    • @brianb6969
      @brianb6969 4 місяці тому

      @@BodanzaDiscGolf I wish They would sent me Discs to Review. I'm 55, But I can smash some Drives...

  • @homerclark9553
    @homerclark9553 4 місяці тому

    Collaboration between two companies is my guess for II.

  • @heathenbyheritage2095
    @heathenbyheritage2095 4 місяці тому

    Bars lol, that was awesome!

  • @timothyv2252
    @timothyv2252 4 місяці тому

    This discs looks fun

  • @michaelblair7141
    @michaelblair7141 4 місяці тому

    Some of your throws are a bit difficult to see. Perhaps you can do Ace Trace or a flight path tracer of some sort? Might make it easier for the viewers. The highlight is decent, but I think a tracer may be a better option. Regardless, I still really enjoy your vids.

  • @BlitzDG
    @BlitzDG 4 місяці тому +2

    "Smoothies only today." Hole 7 - 👀

  • @prestonr8
    @prestonr8 4 місяці тому

    clearly bonanza in the panda suit given away with the hand size and black ring

  • @woolenstraps-m5x
    @woolenstraps-m5x 4 місяці тому

    25:02 sick stamp!

  • @rooster700rr
    @rooster700rr 4 місяці тому

    Out of Curiosity, What camera do you use for this video? I found that you were using a Sony Alpha 7 in some of your older vids. Is it still that camera or have you changed it up?

  • @MrJp900
    @MrJp900 4 місяці тому +7

    whoa they made an Aerobe Epic

    • @coreyvalek2691
      @coreyvalek2691 4 місяці тому

      100%

    • @chucksherron
      @chucksherron 4 місяці тому +3

      Except about 40% less crazy wide rim.
      The epic basically had an actual wing on one side.

    • @MrJp900
      @MrJp900 4 місяці тому +1

      @@chucksherron I’m familiar with an epic. If it makes you feel better we can call it an epic junior

    • @BodanzaDiscGolf
      @BodanzaDiscGolf  4 місяці тому

      🤏🏼

    • @coreyvalek2691
      @coreyvalek2691 4 місяці тому

      Do thumpers barrel roll to flat and glide? Epics were epic.

  • @trentmcilroy6818
    @trentmcilroy6818 4 місяці тому

    Sick disc..good video

  • @tylerpelletier4506
    @tylerpelletier4506 4 місяці тому

    This is awesome.

  • @thaddeuswireman552
    @thaddeuswireman552 4 місяці тому

    It's the funkiest flying orc ive ever seen. I want 🤑

  • @davismorehead2494
    @davismorehead2494 4 місяці тому

    I do like your goals

  • @danieljohnson792
    @danieljohnson792 4 місяці тому

    I think with the Epics your supposed to be able to bend the disc both ways to make it fly more or less stable 🤔 not an epic thrower so not positive haha

  • @RINGOMONJ
    @RINGOMONJ 4 місяці тому

    I thought the symbol was the Japanese 'post' symbol until I realized there are three horizontal lines. Must be a play on it.

  • @LJDiscGolf
    @LJDiscGolf 4 місяці тому +7

    Yo first view
    First like
    first comment
    First edit

  • @calvinsmith4190
    @calvinsmith4190 4 місяці тому +3

    JMilly-style checklist is the move. Make that the intro and cut the video down and your audience gets much wider

    • @JoakimGulbrandsen
      @JoakimGulbrandsen 4 місяці тому

      Make the videos longer, so the boomers with an attention span and a thick wallet can be woved and buy the shit.

  • @rrollo2591
    @rrollo2591 4 місяці тому

    The Epic is meant to be “bent” and thrown overhand.

  • @brentbust
    @brentbust 4 місяці тому

    Can we PLEASE get Tony's thoughts??????

  • @dustinroberson1865
    @dustinroberson1865 4 місяці тому

    That is definitely an "epic" disc. I thought the pdga regulations prevented a new disc like that from being approved after epic had released it. All discs need to be able to be cut in half at any point and both sides be the same as each other.

    • @BodanzaDiscGolf
      @BodanzaDiscGolf  4 місяці тому

      I guess not 🤷‍♂

    • @_phracture
      @_phracture 4 місяці тому

      Pretty sure the epic isn't pdga approved anymore because the rim width is too large on the bigger side. I think they just need it to be symmetrical on one point, not at any point. I'm no expert though.

    • @dustinroberson1865
      @dustinroberson1865 4 місяці тому

      @@_phracture I believe the epic is still legal, as it met regulations prior to the changes. I went back to look at the disc manufacturing rules and I guess I must be going crazy, because I'm not seeing anything about symmetry. I could have swore a year or two ago I had seen that the disc had to be symmetrical if cut into two equal pieces but I guess I'm just crazy lol.

  • @KingKerrmitt
    @KingKerrmitt 4 місяці тому

    Does all this work over the past few weeks to hide the stamp and then shows it for 30 seconds cause he got so excited. 🤣

    • @BodanzaDiscGolf
      @BodanzaDiscGolf  4 місяці тому +1

      uh oh 👀🤷‍♂️
      how did I miss that in my 3 final passes of the vid 👀

  • @johnsd333
    @johnsd333 4 місяці тому

    Hey AB, you are showing big gains in the physique! You're clearly larger now, giving Ezra a run for his money 😅❤

    • @BodanzaDiscGolf
      @BodanzaDiscGolf  4 місяці тому

      definitely not even close to Ezra, but thanks, been working a lot on training and mostly strength/biomechanics but physique is a great side benefit!

  • @adamlassen1185
    @adamlassen1185 4 місяці тому

    what course?

  • @KWOW32
    @KWOW32 4 місяці тому

    That piece of plastic seems fun

  • @ianplaysdiscgolf
    @ianplaysdiscgolf 4 місяці тому

    Pffff that wasn’t a real panda… unless the panda stole your wedding band 🤔

    • @BodanzaDiscGolf
      @BodanzaDiscGolf  4 місяці тому

      nah dude, real panda, you're crazy 👀
      ⛽️💡

  • @Lucid.Heart.Mantra
    @Lucid.Heart.Mantra 4 місяці тому

    Lol, what's up with the random eerie music at minute 7:50

  • @Morphowl
    @Morphowl 4 місяці тому

    Want to improve pace of play? Hose em

  • @BigJuice77
    @BigJuice77 4 місяці тому

    I don’t want one…. I need one

  • @KadenGoodyear
    @KadenGoodyear 4 місяці тому

    why bro tryna be mysterious in the intro

  • @xionace
    @xionace 4 місяці тому

    Bars.

  • @edithkramer7689
    @edithkramer7689 4 місяці тому

    What the fudge?

  • @jacobmalof
    @jacobmalof 4 місяці тому

    I have better flights throwing a thumber than I do a tommy with my epic.
    Also, please gift me one of those discs. I really want.

  • @mrafitzy17
    @mrafitzy17 4 місяці тому

    FOR the LOVE of GOD STANDARDIZE the NUMBERS!

    • @BodanzaDiscGolf
      @BodanzaDiscGolf  4 місяці тому

      that would be nice but doubt it will happen anytime soon, too useful for marketing for companies, but on the consumer side it'd be so much better if they did

  • @octogintillion
    @octogintillion 4 місяці тому

    Brother these thumbnail faces are getting out of hand. 😂

  • @LJDiscGolf
    @LJDiscGolf 4 місяці тому

    Woah

  • @davismorehead2494
    @davismorehead2494 4 місяці тому

    Top 5 like

  • @andrewkriek7666
    @andrewkriek7666 4 місяці тому

    First like, comment, and I think view

    • @LJDiscGolf
      @LJDiscGolf 4 місяці тому

      @@andrewkriek7666 nuh uh

  • @michaelcason8451
    @michaelcason8451 4 місяці тому

    Bro took j milly’s video ideas and his style of videos… do your own thing bodanza

  • @Yockey11
    @Yockey11 4 місяці тому

    I just searched for 45 minutes for socials. Can you please convince both to make a inner core in lunar plastic 🫡

    • @njdolan
      @njdolan 4 місяці тому

      The whole point of the trash panda discs are having them in 100% recycled plastic