Pretty solid video. The one flaw I see in this is you never touched on what cards to side out of the deck. This is probably the hardest part of side decking. Would be useful in the future I think.
Really great video. Thank you for putting this together and I'm looking forward to the series. One other idea to consider is a series or maybe just one video talking about each deck's good and bad matchups. Obviously it will change a bit based on the specific tech choices ran but I think it would be helpful to get an overall sense of what is good against what like the RPS meta video but expanded to each deck.
I can see why the second copy isn't sided, Turbo is generally favored against Control and the list does have Asura Priest to clean up tokens and two Raigeki Break to help out with TER, and this list is just really tight. I personally like having a second copy in the side but I wouldn't say it's required, just interesting and note worthy that John Wick didn't do that.
A counter to mind control lately has been setting night assailant to bait the mind control. Most ppl would normally hold NS to use with graceful , PWWB , Card D or R break .. but in game 2 or 3 it might be the better play to bait out NOC or MC .. ( if you left them in for game 2or3)
I love flipping ceasefire in response to mind control. Noone gets a flip effect, they take damage, and we traded 1/1. I usually main 3 dustshoot, and side them out for 3 jar of greed when I go 2nd. Great mind games there
14/16 decks on the last two tournament were warrior and chaos turbo. Im still there waiting argument about the fact that goat is not solved as you said previusly
We had a 5+ year period where Goat Control dominated the meta and most good players were in denial that it could be countered or consistently beaten. Chaos and Warriors are just as beatable today as Goat Control was then. These cycles take years to play out, not weeks.
As i said previusly, goat is not cycle, is just a format that tooks a long time to become popular, and obviusly reach a good point in terms of skill,knowledge and card pool usage. In the first year of the format player were not good as today in every aspect kf the game. In the last 2/3 years the level and the meta is the same 85/90%.
@@jacopoforato424 Goat Format IS a cycle. It's true that there is a top tier of decks that tend to outperform the others in the meta on a more consistent basis, but when there are multiple decks in the mix the format should not be viewed as "solved." Any of these decks, including Chaos Turbo can lose to the other decks in the meta, or even to the lower tier combo decks. In truth, the format is wide enough, has enough of the top decks that are clearly stronger or weaker against other top decks in a head to head setting and has just enough variance in it that I don't personally believe the meta will ever be truly solved. The trick is being able to analyze the trends from recent events to determine which deck(s) are the best meta call at any particular time, but it still doesn't mean that one of the other decks can't win. For example, if we note that the two most recent events were won by Chaos Turbo then it's not unreasonable to think that the majority of players will play Turbo in the next event, meaning that Warriors could be the best meta call as a strong counter. Or perhaps you take it a step further and think that enough people will realize this and gravitate to Warriors as a counter, so you play something that is strong against Warriors. It's about predicting and anticipating. Sometimes these trends can play out over the course of a couple of events, and sometimes it's like ACP said in the comment above and it takes months or even years to get to the next link in the chain, but sooner or later it comes back around.
Pretty solid video. The one flaw I see in this is you never touched on what cards to side out of the deck. This is probably the hardest part of side decking. Would be useful in the future I think.
Good point. I'll pass that suggestion on to InfusionsCap.
Good point, I'll make sure to include some suggestions on that going forward. Thanks for the feedback.
Looking forward to this series!
Nice start to the series. It would be great to know thoughts / strategies on what to side out vs different match ups 👍
I am going to do that as well, going forward in future installments. Thank you for the feedback.
@@infusionscap thanks, can't wait to see future iterations
You’re a great addition to the channel!
Thank you for saying that, I appreciate it.
My favorite kind of content going forward, thank you
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it. I plan to do more like this in the future.
Really great video. Thank you for putting this together and I'm looking forward to the series. One other idea to consider is a series or maybe just one video talking about each deck's good and bad matchups. Obviously it will change a bit based on the specific tech choices ran but I think it would be helpful to get an overall sense of what is good against what like the RPS meta video but expanded to each deck.
I may be able to work that in, thanks for the feedback.
Nice video and good start of the series! Looking forward to more :)
Thank you, episode 2 should be coming in the next couple of weeks.
Definately agree with what u said about book of moon.
I can see why the second copy isn't sided, Turbo is generally favored against Control and the list does have Asura Priest to clean up tokens and two Raigeki Break to help out with TER, and this list is just really tight. I personally like having a second copy in the side but I wouldn't say it's required, just interesting and note worthy that John Wick didn't do that.
A counter to mind control lately has been setting night assailant to bait the mind control. Most ppl would normally hold NS to use with graceful , PWWB , Card D or R break .. but in game 2 or 3 it might be the better play to bait out NOC or MC .. ( if you left them in for game 2or3)
I love flipping ceasefire in response to mind control. Noone gets a flip effect, they take damage, and we traded 1/1.
I usually main 3 dustshoot, and side them out for 3 jar of greed when I go 2nd. Great mind games there
3 Mainer shoots is too bricky
@@mitchellmayhaus1515 opening it is so good and if you lose to drawing it late game 1 you were probably losing anyway
nice video
Thank you for watching.
IMO Chaos Turbo has REALLY been suffering against monstergate DMOC
14/16 decks on the last two tournament were warrior and chaos turbo. Im still there waiting argument about the fact that goat is not solved as you said previusly
We had a 5+ year period where Goat Control dominated the meta and most good players were in denial that it could be countered or consistently beaten. Chaos and Warriors are just as beatable today as Goat Control was then. These cycles take years to play out, not weeks.
As i said previusly, goat is not cycle, is just a format that tooks a long time to become popular, and obviusly reach a good point in terms of skill,knowledge and card pool usage. In the first year of the format player were not good as today in every aspect kf the game. In the last 2/3 years the level and the meta is the same 85/90%.
@@jacopoforato424 what
@@jacopoforato424 Goat Format IS a cycle. It's true that there is a top tier of decks that tend to outperform the others in the meta on a more consistent basis, but when there are multiple decks in the mix the format should not be viewed as "solved." Any of these decks, including Chaos Turbo can lose to the other decks in the meta, or even to the lower tier combo decks. In truth, the format is wide enough, has enough of the top decks that are clearly stronger or weaker against other top decks in a head to head setting and has just enough variance in it that I don't personally believe the meta will ever be truly solved.
The trick is being able to analyze the trends from recent events to determine which deck(s) are the best meta call at any particular time, but it still doesn't mean that one of the other decks can't win. For example, if we note that the two most recent events were won by Chaos Turbo then it's not unreasonable to think that the majority of players will play Turbo in the next event, meaning that Warriors could be the best meta call as a strong counter. Or perhaps you take it a step further and think that enough people will realize this and gravitate to Warriors as a counter, so you play something that is strong against Warriors. It's about predicting and anticipating.
Sometimes these trends can play out over the course of a couple of events, and sometimes it's like ACP said in the comment above and it takes months or even years to get to the next link in the chain, but sooner or later it comes back around.
One I've thought of is Magic Jammer to stop those annoying ass Reasoning Gate decks.