Finally trying out my 15th century armour
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2022
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I used my armour for the first time at the re-enactment of the Battle of Tewkesbury. Here I talk about the final bits of preparation, and the various issues I encountered in the fray.
Thank you to Kathleen Joie for the kind permission to use her footage of the battle. To see her complete video: • Tewkesbury Medieval Fe...
Photograph of the Duke of Gloucester's bodyguard by Alex Pocklington.
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It was great having you there, Lloyd. Let's do it again 🙂
360p wow. It's like Early Beige, when I was still at school.
Great to see you all together
Nice of you to christen his armour propperly, that dent makes it 100% more authentic ;)
@@scholagladiatoria 🦆🏳️🤜🤛🙋♂️🧐💾!!!!
Only if you catch the berk who dented his shiny.
I demand a video where Mr. Lloyd travels to France with this armor and a band of not-so-merry men to ransack towns, burn crops, and force their men-at-arms from their castles into a field engagement.
No, I am not getting my time periods mixed up.
Just your average Englishman's holiday to the Loire then?
BASED
one day when the French are finished on the castle, we'll be really.
@@SuperFunkmachine I think they said 2025, so I'm guessing maybe one more decade.
@@SuperFunkmachine I think they said 2025, so I'm guessing maybe one more decade.
I think we made an impressive looking bodyguard between you, Matt, Zac and myself 😀
Lord drac praise the algorithm and lindy great day 🙌
Knew that was you in the thumbnail
The naval historian was there? Most of all, commenting here? What a blessed day!
I thought I recognised that beard!
Bloke I worked with about 30 years ago did medieval reenactment, he was a viking raider and met his wife at one show
She was playing a medieval peasant who's village was under attack and in the heat of the moment she grabbed a piece of timber and caught him squarely in the crown jewels sending him sprawling with crossed eyes
One year later they were married and had a couple of kids
Always thought it was a rather romantic tale
Other than twins how on earth would they accomplish "a couple" of children in a year?!
@@davidpnewton I meant to add a comma and put "have" instead of "had"
@@davidpnewton come on now Dave, Really, uuum
She saw what she wanted and went for it.
Almost accurate end to that.
Hi from a French medieval reenactor. When I am on the field, I always have a can of WD40 and I use the spray right after I used the armour. It helps a lot to prevent corrosion!
If applied quickly WD40 will work for that purpose as it is a "Water Displacement fluid, the 40th version" that was tested. I use it for a bunch of things but I wipe stuff down after and apply Seafoam DEEP CREEP.. About the same price and a far better lubricant
Ah, yes. The deodorant of choice for most armored reenactors. :D
I find the image of a knight in full armor spraying himself with WD40 to be hilarious.
@@glenngriffon8032 Don't be ridiculous. A knight in full armor wouldn't do that.
That's what the squire is for.
Who doesn't enjoy the smell of roast mutton and WD-40 in the morning.
Don't get old!!! I'm in my 70s; a back injury from my youth has come back to haunt me, and I have to go through similar contortions (without armour) just to get out of bed ! Getting down is easy (think gravity) but getting up is almost impossible !
join the club brother, better than not getting old, its the noises that make me laugh, with almost every movement
im 6
The feeling of being slow is one of the reasons training in armor was so important. If you wear it often enough, you can run pretty damn quickly in it. There’s a video of Toby Capwell running full tilt in armor.
Two videos not even a week apart? You’re too kind, Lloyd.
And they're both over half an hour too!
Hello comrade
It's really lovely your father and brother were there to see you fight. Definitely need to design a heraldic surcoat for yourself though!
Let's see, now, perhaps a man in a tuxedo doing the Lindy Hop against a background of, yes, you guessed it: beige.
Well it should be beige, I'm sure.
Books behind held by a dragon? With the main color being beige?
Just plain beige 👌🏻
@@perniciouspete4986 A tuxedo'd Lindy rampant on a beige background?
Heavy sweating on the forearms is pretty common whenever you remove any contact with the air. You can see it for instance after you get forearm tattoos done and they wrap your forearm in clingfilm after the session to protect it, they sweat like CRAZY.
The problem is not removal of air, it's that you trap heat next to your skin. However that would be a good thing in wintertime. You can wear armor in the winter, and it won't be that cold. Well the armor will be cold, but if you have good enough clothes beneath the armor, it will insulate you from the outside weather, and since air is a really good insulator armor won't really get that cool, and the things you should worry about is contact surfaces, such as the ground and anything you grab hold of.
In heatstroke weather run water over your forearms or wear/hang a wet cloth or kerchief there for a quick bit of relaxation. Cant so easily do that wearing armor of course. There's alot of blood and veins there near the surface of your skin, very little fat or muscle insulating them.
When it's really hot and I have a drink of cold water, my forearms is where it first comes out. Feels kind of useless to drink if all it's going to pour out and run down to my hands, which I usually want to use for touching a keyboard or screen.
This always reminds me of watching mythbusters as a kid, showing thermals while exercising, how the limbs disperse heat.
This really is the conclusion of an epic saga. I've been waiting years and years ever since the original video of Lloyd explaining how he was finally get armor made, and now we finally get to see him triumphantly don the complete kit in all its glory!
Haha Lucy sounds like a champ, love how eccentric a lot of the crafts people can be, you got to be a bit mad to get into it in the first place. Never a dull day when talking with them and not the first time I've heard of a 'nope these will not do for you so you can't have them' Last time I had it I just went with they 'sure, I'll go with your recommendation then' And I was very happy with the result it was flawless ^^
That sounds like an interesting train ride from a spectator perspective.
>posted 17 seconds ago
>comments already praising how good this 1hr long video is
they just watched it at 200x times speed
The ghosts of that battle must be so confused when you guys do this
“No no no no, they’re doing it completely wrong! Duke Richard was never stood here! And look at this man’s armour, completely wrong!”
This is like baby's first steps.
First steps into BATTLE!
But seriously, congrats on getting your new spiffy armor out on the field.
*cough*reenactment
Having lived in Tewkesbury, I can totally appreciate the faff of getting to and from the station.
That was probably what b*ggered things up for the Lancastrians too…
The discolouration was probable due to Oxalic acid in the grass and weeds. Still, it creates a good rust inhibiting surface.
On adventurers and plate armour, something I really liked in SM Stirling's Emberverse fantasy series is that the band of questing heroes do *have* sets of full plate (and lances for mounted fighting), but they stay on the packhorses or at the latest hideout/friendly settlement and only get put on when there's a pitched battle and a fair bit of time to prepare for it.
Imagine you’re on the train and you see lindybeige sewing his sheepskin
The reenactment was amazing to watch, kudos to all the men and women who endured that hot July day in armour! My mate and I wondered If we'd spot you on the field but it turned out we were watching from the Lancastrian side!
Oops! LOL!
Welcome back to us Good sir knight! A blooded knight at last.A bodyguard to a royal the first time ? I am dully impressed.
16:06 There was an old thunderf00t video,where he used an infrared camera on himself.
Turns out, human forearms are heat sinks and evaporation points. You had yours covered ,so sweat gathering there , trying to evaporate, makes sense.
What is this ? No colours , no heraldry, a man of your stature? Something must be done about it.It is not proper, to fight anonymously like a common armsman.
How will your peers know of your prowess, with no device? No this will simply not do.
Not to worry, rest and repair for now, autumn is not much of a campaigning season.
Rest, refit, train. Come spring , England will know of you.
My hypothesis is that the human body adapts to sweat more where it's less frequently covered - which is commonly the forearms and possibly parts of the leg.
Lloyd
Use Rennaisance wax.
It's cheap and wont come off like oils. It also preserves your leather parts.
I use two approaches that have worked very well. If I'm using armour more regularly I'll only use a light coat of mineral oil and keep it stored in towels. If I'm putting it away for more than a month I'll give use renaissance wax and throw in a few moisture absorbing packs. Works excellently and does a great job avoiding excess maintenance.
There is a reason that I like composite safety-toe boots on the job. Just the difference in weight between a small piece of steel and a small piece of very tough composite has a VERY big difference. I can't imagine just how bad full steel sabatons must be, let alone the rest of the kit.
Also, Lloyd. That looks like a Makita cordless drill you're using there, which I actually use on the job. Some of the best tools I've found. Glad that they're usefull in more historical aspects. I can only imagine how much an armorour of old would have enjoyed them.
Anyways, tangents aside, great video, Lloyd! Keep them coming, if you'd be so kind!
Youre a swell fellow and I've watched you for a decade, cheers mate
Great to fight alongside you there at my own first re-enactment battle! Glad you got your points sorted out. Something really strange I noticed as a lightly armoured billman, it that despite being really hot in my padded jack and repeatedly having water poured down my bevor, at the end of the battle I was completely dry... I can only imagine all the moisture evaporated! Regarding other battles, believe the season is over now, but you should look for a group who is part of the Wars of the Roses Federation to join and that will keep you in the loop.
"Any complaints about your leg armour?"
"Well ... no greavances."
Those creases look great. Thanks for the update. I image many period wearers of armour had similar problems.
1st time I fell over in my harness I did it by mistake and rolled down as small slope in to a ditch. After that a lot of the worry about falling over in it went.
It's too bad that ColdWarMotors youtube channel guy is all the way across the world from you in Canadia, because man, his skill level at repairing car dents is insanely high while at the same time being super nice and humble. I bet he could make you forget that chest plate dent was ever there if you gave him 20 minutes with that piece. What a delight it is to watch him work. Removing dents from metal is such an art and he really understands it more than I think anybody else that I've seen repair dents on video. His shack side "quick and dirty" fixes are better than most professional body shops that I've seen.
"Something that happened during a fight"
I suspect it was Lindy's massive enthusiasm.
That wasn't a fall ! Carefully lowered. 😆
Still waiting for video where Lloyd walks around town and performs everyday tasks, wearing his armour =)
I fear for the 'Beige's foes. Flee yee!! Flee from the 'Beige!!!
On the question of D&D parties not wanting to wear plate, your closest comparison is probably live role-playing, where people do run around doing lots of silly things in all sorts of kit. I've crawled through horribly tight spaces in a plate harness - admittedly, it would have been somewhat easier without it, but then again it was quite nice not having to worry about what might jump out and attack my legs while my arms and head were in a different corridor, so I was glad to have it on.
Lindy at his very best , listen to him talk for hours
An hour long video? From Lindybeige? For a weekend viewing? Huzzah!
Can't wait to watch, congratulations on the achievement! Huge progress for the lindybeige campaign!
great to see you actually getting to use the suit. well done! I'm always surprised how much of a one-man band you are.
Just an idea for a short future video -> while reading some legends about Cú Chulainn, an Irish mythical warrior, there was a point that sparked an interest when Cú was put out of a battle rage by cooling him in vats of water. So, seems like there were prepared vats of water behind battle lines at least since Irish mythic age. :)
You spoke about water deliveries, that I suppose organised army had to function. Maybe a topic worth a dedicated reflexion?.. based on personal experience.
They did not cool him to subdue his battle-rage, but boiled it out of him.
@@jackodonail1980 ... yea, three vats he boiled away before he calmed down, or something like that. Thank You for pointing it out. Cú must have been a real fun to be around when had his moods. :)
Damn, imagine if there was a drone camera for the whole battle!
Thank you for dozens of fascinating insights as to what it was like for those in knightly battle.
18:09 he must’ve hit your collarbone! RIP medieval Lloyd.
Love the videos so educational always a pleasure to see you Lindybeige as well
The reenactment is very near the battlefield - but not actually on the field. I did the battlefield tour a few weeks ago - and you walk through the actual battlefield from the car park! Amazing to think those hedges were there all those years ago. Well worth taking the tour - it’s free too
"Too much meat in my 3 in 1 has never been a problem." Thanks for making me momentarily realise that one never fully grows up. 🤣
3 in 1 is not a good oil IMO. It has a tendency to attract dirt and grime over time.
@@DavidSmith-vr1nb Castroil used to be used for 2-stroke motorbikes.
You could smell the people who used that expensive stuff. Nicer than petroleum products.
10:28 I'd imagine the point of it being vegan is not so much that it has "meat" in it as it is that it basically doesn't use any animal by-products, therefore no animals were harmed/abused or whatever in the production of it.
I used to go to those re-enactments every summer when I lived in the area. Fantastic event!
That exposed piece of the hand is where we often get injured in our competetive reenactment fights.
Oh! I see Alex 😀
When I died at Evesham, I found it a bit difficult getting up because of the weight of the helmet.
Always a joy. Thank you
I really appreciate the detailed thoughts on the armor and reenactment. That was really interesting.
Keep it up Lindy! Love your content on armor, really insightful to issues a knight might face with armor lmao
Fantastic video like always lindy
On the sweaty elbows: you had 2 layers of reasonably close fitting steel there ending in a leather glove. Nowhere at all for the moisture to escape at all.
I subscribed to this channel whilst I was still in secondary school. It is one of very few decisions from that period I can still stand behind.
Forearms r the bodys heat sink - heat exchange area. Pretty much the whole skin sweats. When your radiators r overheating, they need to be water-cooled. Your forearms were sweaty to keep u cool
>and then nick notices his fellow knight in trouble, so he breaks the line in order to help him. Awkwardly walking over, radiating mr. bean energy
Not historical but you may be able to add a strong magnet inset into the back of the strap, then it will stay down without altering the look when wearing
Yay! I'm glad it worked out as well as it did!
Communication is a trouble and I can understand that. It's nice to know what the practical expereince says.
Congratulations on your deed of arms! It is so good to finally see you fight in your armour after all the trials and tribulations, and great to hear your review of how every piece worked.
I'm guessing that is Matt in the black armour, to your left, in the picture of the body guards?
So it is done! What a thing. Lindybeige's medievally stuff is really some of the best.
I am well pleased to see more armor updates.
Great video! I think I saw you wandering around Newcastle not too long ago, little bit crazy seeing you in the flesh after watching you for years!
Thanks for the awesome content!
LYOooooiiidd! miseed you man, glad to see you posting!
Nice to see the fruits of your labor.
Having fallen off a low (about four metres) castle wall in pitch black darkness while wearing plastic, LARP plate armour I can confirm that armour can be VERY useful at spreading the impact out. Also having fallen over on rocks wearing maille that also helps a lot to reduce the damage.
Well, if you like to visit some beautiful castle in Czech Republic (possibly in your Armor), you are welcome in Vízmburk, which was called Pompeii of Czech Republic. Check it out. I am a castle keeper there (and a fan of yours). Cheers.
Tis good to see that the fog of war is still active, even with reenactments!
Well done. I’ve watched the channel of the battle. It looks good. Bringing history to life. I’m hoping teachers show it to students. Making history lessons exciting like an action film. This big kid loves it.
Cool. I was waiting for this.
I've been waiting for this since day 1. damn it's been a while, cool armor
Slowly watching you become a knight has been quite the delight.
Another great video, Lindybeige. Myself & my family were at the Battle on the first day and it was so boiling hot that when we left, a bit early, we saw a horseman collapse off his horse at their horse-carrying van & a knight running back to his tent because he said said his suit was still cooking him! (A lithe man) Phew!
I've traveled the length of the UK on trains more times than I can remember and I am yet to see a man taking up an entire booth and sowing armour bits together
Strange as it sounds, hearing this makes me appreciate modern armor a lot more than I did before. I didn’t need an arming doublet; the plate carrier performs that role. I didn’t need a squire to get in or out of my armor. I didn’t have any issues with mobility due to the armor physically stopping movement. There’s a wonderful degree of segmentation between a front and back plate and side plates. There’s also a large degree of standardization between manufacturers. If you can use one company’s armor, you can use another.
But also modern armour is a fair bit less effective than that armour was against its contemporaries
Lloyd you've truly surpassed yourself this time - congrats, that man!
:)
you realise that these people went through this type of problems back in the ages of this type of armour. Absolutely mental
Your armour still looks great, all things considered.
lol lindy you looked cool in that armor, happy you got to do this
I think given all the problems with the ground, three quarters plate makes a lot of sense. also more mobility in general is an edge in a fight... just better hope you don't take an arrow to the knee/ankle/shin >.>
I get massively sweaty forearms when I hold something heavy in my hand when it's hot outside, essentially overheating. As if I just left a shower. I guess it's the hairs.
Very interesting video. Armour seems so simple until you learn how complex and complicated it actually is.
Just a regular busy working class man of today, not earning much but still learning much.
if your tassit buckles had an extra loop at the bottom it would probably help. 2 bar buckle is the simplest solution imo- the leather will be prevented from lifting, with the second bar acting as a flexing point.
I enjoyed thi spresentation it was informative thank you. My daughter is a fencer and can often end up very bruised depending on who her aponent is.
The brief battle pics just reminds me of 'get on with it!!' MP🤣😂😂
If there is one thing good about our time, it is the love and appreciation of history by the reenactment groups.
Thanks for the video 😊
Great to have you there! :D
I enjoyed your comments on "Armor Skill" as is might apply to RPGs. Not only is there the technical knowledge of fitting, adjusting and donning armor, but the basic exercise of wearing it: walking, running, fighting and using the bathroom... Just wearing it can be a great workout. I used to put my kit on to mow the lawn just to get used to it. And then, as you describe: maintenance. Sergeants spend most of their time teaching their recruits Attention to Detail! While not a fan of "white-glove inspections", they can be used as an indication to that attention to detail.
You would always want Lindybeige in your army for increasing troop morale, and booping the odd enemy snoot...
loved the end
you watched this in 60x speed??
Only with lindybeige and Internet historian are the ads part of the viewing experience!
52:06 I mean you can be confident that your spear never went close to someones face, but the organisers can't have that same level of confidence. If something goes wrong and someone takes a spear to the eye it's a very big deal.
LindyBeige in armour: I've fallen and I can't get up
I noticed that continuity error!
What fun. If only it wasn't so expensive.
I think plate is more protective in a fall since the deformation of the rigid armor absorbs energy, whereas maille just adds weight
This chap is totally bonkers but totally thrilling to listen to. Amazing stuff
I've been on the hunt for a vegan leather oil, thank you for the recommendation.
vegan leather oil. for vegan leather? or for normal leather?