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where does a 8 year old learn they can destroy a mans life with lies?
School, internet. Its really not uncommon. Not all girls are sugar and spice, most, the first useful skill they learn is manipulation and when kids are learning they will test the boundaries. Not all will use it for evil, but when women are mean they are cold and calculated.
On the internet...or on TV.
From the mother. Likely overheard her mother yell those same words at her father leading up to divorce.
8 yr old accuser. Anyone that's had children, particularly girls, knows they learn to be mean-spirited from a very early age, usually from their mother (contrary to other views it's from the internet. I witnessed it 1st hand decades before the internet existed).
With that in mind, I'd have hired a P.I. to see if the mother was divorced, had made false allegations against her ex. It's likely the child heard her mother yell those same words to her husband pre-divorce.
But first I'd have put the youngest child on the stand, only to verify they were playing in his room, and he asked them to leave. This corroberates his story.
Under the guise of making the 8yr old child feel comfortable I'd ask about her school, her friends, who's in her group of friends. I'd ask if there's anyone she's not friends with any more. What happened, who said what to who etc, and slowly draw out of the child the mean-spiritedness that goes on between little girls. (Hasn't anyone watched those tv shows of little girls in the pageant industry?).
I'd see if she lies about being asked to leave. Likely she would. She'd have to to back her story of assault. If so, she's exposed as a little liar.
If divorced as suspected, you then want to ask if she visits her dad etc. Slowly draw out the truth of parent's battles she witnessed.
How much you wanna bet she overheard her mother say those same words to her dad??
Wow, that second case was the closest you might get to a TV courtroom drama moment. Surprise evidence that utterly wrecks the complainant.
Criminal Justice Act 2003, one or several of 7 gateways available do perfectly allow you to ask leading question from the lady about the existing criminal case. Moreover, any case pending or decided is a part of a public record. In my estimation it should be brought up without any hesitation.
I don’t understand what happened with the same client / complainant cross examination. Did the first client get acquitted as well?
Both acquitted
Why wasn't the women charged with assault?
section 13 of the constitution does not protect perjury
These cases are rather interesting. Seems so unlikely that an 8 year old not only knows how to make up an allegation like this (less so these days thanks to social media and ever-declining standards of parenting, but still), but would want/think to do so over what was apparently a fairly trivial matter, and can continuously recite her account in a consistent manner. How long after the alleged incident was the trial?
As for the second case, what was going on? Why did the complainant seemingly invent two near-identical cases and how did the fact the alleged perps both attended the same event factor in? I can think of a couple possibilities, such as an unexpected pregnancy, but it seems incredibly short-sighted on the complainant's part to use the same story twice if she was acting maliciously.
Clearly you've not had a little girl in your life have you? And stop blaming everything on the internet. It's lazy and wrong. She got it from her mother.
melanie swan never had a baby
Teasing me , I thought I was about to watch a new episode. I'll pretend to be patient and I'll see you in two days
Ever since the McMartin case I have made it a rule to never, ever, be alone with a child. In this case I think what I would have gone is go to the mother and tell her to keep her kid out of my room. Maybe that wouldn't have been enough but at least I would try. But no cctv, the kid will look at me in the same room, I will represent myself and when I am done that brat will be in tears. I will go for the jugular vein. Would that work? I don't know but I know this, you got very lucky because 99 times out of a 100 he would have been convicted.
Judges won't let you go for the jugular with a child witness.
@@unknownknown2776 Then that will be an appealable issue because I have a Sixth Amendment right to confront my accusers but this idea that I must be nice to someone trying to put me in jail must stop. We went through the era of "kids don't lie" and that was proven to be completely false. Kids like this little girl know exactly how to hurt someone and how to be explicit when doing it. It isn't the 1950's anymore. I have a right to present that before a jury.
@@tomjackson4374 6th Amendment? This is Canada ot the US. That said, yes, you can subpoena the kid, but no judge is going to let you treat a 6 year old as a hostile witness, nor should you want to. You get more bees with honey than vinegar.
@@unknownknown2776 I live in the US so those are the laws I am interested in. Look up the McMartin prosecutions. Children testified to the most insane facts, tunnels, BDSM on children in plain view of the public, using children for shark bait but because it was the "children don't lie" time of our history, they were believed. After years of imprisonment, torture, the total destruction of these people's lives the charges were overturned on appeal. In another case a young boy didn't like his mother's new boyfriend so he said, "He touched me on my bum." Years later he admitted he made the whole thing up and wanted forgiveness from the boyfriend who said Hell no. Some of these kids know how to manipulate the system and they know nothing will happen to them even if caught. Why? Because they are children and people like you don't want to hold them accountable.
@@unknownknown2776 Look up the McMartin case in the early 90's. Those children were never challenged and people's lives were destroyed.