I had too many difficulties for mastering my touchdowns. Yesterday, I watched this video and today I've successfully completed my first solo-flight in my Cessna 172 following this technique. My instructor was so impressed. Thank you so much for the video!
This has been the easiest and most precise technique. I'd about 40 landings before watching this video yesterday and not a single greaser - today I had 7 out of 10 "passable" touchdowns - thanks Rod!
This is the technique that I learned that solved my stall and drop in landings. I had the stabilized approach and approach speed. I had no idea when to roll out and flare. I guessed. Sometimes it worked and sometimes it did not. When I met Rod Machado, I told him how much this technique helped my landings. I discovered that this sudden expansion occurs over the aiming point and before the touchdown point. I also learned that if you can't see the end of the runway during the flare, you flared too much.
This video is 10 years old but the content still actual. I will do this technique on a grass field where markers and runway signs are much less numerous. Thanks for the tip Rod
Most students are coming in too high and too fast. If you slow the airplane to the recommended 1.3 times VSO, for a C-172 it’s about 54 kts with full flaps. I use 60 over the threshold. I look down the runway and imagining you in a car going down a small hill, you will normally have the sight picture of near the bottom of the hill. I leave a small amount of power to increase rudder and elevator effectiveness. As soon as I’m flat, the airspeed will bleed off as you begin pulling power to idle. Then gently increase back pressure to about a takeoff attitude. You’ll touchdown mains first, soft and will have the nose up like the way an F-15 lands. Works well on low wing too. Don’t forget to look out of the Lindbergh reference for the lower corner of the front windscreen and look at your distance from the edge of the runway. This will help keep you from drifting. If you start to drift, use your rudder to keep nose straight and a little aileron toward the upwind side to minimize drift. Remember this, if you watch an airliner come in they don’t round out in flare. They maintain a specific attitude and slightly raise the nose more before touchdown. Kind of like the way you see a duck land on the pond.
Had flown helicopter for last 30 years before that trainer Jets. Flew C172R this month. Flare was not coming at all despite great efforts and 2 hours dual. Actually was unable to visualize the correct perspective, the widening of runway, travel of noise etc. Progressional ego hurt... Then I came across this wonderful training video. All concepts cleared.. Saw it around 20 times and then cleared my solo very next sortie. Million thanks Rod! You are great in teaching... Forwarded to few more Young trainee pilots.. All benefiting. In fact all your videos are of great training value. Happy Landings
I can attest to this. I just started using this technique recently, and now I have more confidence when executing my landings. I've noticed that I've gotten better & better each time. Thanks, Rod!! :-)
I got my PPL in 1984 but left the country shortly after and stopped flying due to finances. When I decided to become current again in the late 1990s I used Rod's private pilot handbook. It was excellent in that it comprehensively covered everything I needed with great explanations and sense of humor. Comparing it to Gleim which was drier than dust Rod's book was very enjoyable to read.
Really interesting observation! Even though I have somewhat more experience than some contributors here, (400h), I am still not immune to judgement errors on flare. I have been looking at this in my flying over the past few days and I'm finding it to be very pertinent. Thanks Rod for this insightful tip!
It looks more like the point that the runway STOPS expanding, the clue that it's time to flare. I soon figured out a similar technique when night flying, as most pilots probably do? Practicing for my (Cdn) night endorsement 45 yrs ago, when the 200 ft wide runway was as black as the sky, I noticed that the flare should be commenced as both sides of the runway-edge lights would seem to level out into a virtually straight horizon. It was pretty simple to anticipate and be set up in the flare. I don't remember ever miscalculating it as I knew that below that point there was no more air under the wheels, and the hole I felt I was descending into would get pretty hard right quick. I haven't flown in a long while so I have no idea how common center-line lighting is today. We didn't have it in Thunder Bay, Ont., in 1970.
I was always taught to watch for the runway flattening out as the moment to begin the flaire. Once I was told that, it all became much easier. This seems to be a variation of the same effect. Very useful tips.
Good tutorial, thanks for sharing. I recall reading a number of articles back in the 70s in *Flying Magazine* that called this the "perspective break" method. Those were great articles back in the day, but they are no match for actual presentations, live graphics, video.
I have been using the Johnston's technique for many years with this technique on the left hand side of the runway with the hold off focused on the far end of threshold. This version would make it easier when doing a conversion on a newer type. The more one fly's a single type, the more set patterns of that types handling set in and changing to an other type with different features, is a learning blockage.
Video not meant for flight simmers, but it’s a great technique for us. Depth perception is difficult on a screen, especially with no peripheral vision.
The explanation during the visual example was great, really the whole video was good, though I would like to see this with both narrow and wide runways while using the same basic airplane for demonstration.(50ft and 150ft wide) I am going to give this a try tomorrow.
My first day of landing training i didn’t know what I was doing but they were perfect. 4 lands touched down pretty smooth for a first timer. Second day of landing training all horrible, third day all drop ins , horrible. The thing I did differently was study how to land and I think my knowledge ended up killing my innate ability to trust the plan. Last night was my first day of night landings and 8 landing two were acceptable (to me , my instructor says I’m not the worst student he’s trained) , next time I attempt my landings I’m going to try this.
Landing is a tough part of training (and if you pressure yourself you make it worse obviously). Try to relax a bit and breathe so you can feel the plane. Scanning near and far often gives the best awareness of how high you are above the runway and how fast you are settling (the critical/necessary ingredient in landing) Good luck!
This simple technique has helped many of our students land with fewer hours and a lot less stress. I suspect that most CFIs do not really know how to teach landings (from the incompetent pilots I have met). We will all be safer thanks to Rod!
Great video and very practical helpful tip! It seems that the graph is not totally accurate as the rate of runway expansion should decrease after its peak back down to zero at time of landing.
The decent rate plays a big role in this... if you are on glideslope, it's easy.. if you are above glideslope (more common with GA) then that transition to level flight is 10x more difficult.
I actually have always taught VFR approaches at a steeper angle; it makes landing quite a bit easier (counter-intuitive I know). The three degree glidpath is for IFR...
@@YouNumba1 If you are on short final at 500' AGL vs 100' and your VSI is -500 compared to -150... I think it's obvious what is the more consistent secure and soft landing... the only rationale to the steep approach is to be always within glide distance of the runway while in the circuit... not to mention turning a GA aircraft into a glider doesn't work well on windy days!... unless I'm missing something here... I was taught both, and putting one red light on the PAPI is the easier landing, and better when you have to put it on the numbers, if it's a small runway.
This specific technique (with side lines) does not work well for grass, skis of water landing. It is *very* helpful to still look near and far (especially to the horizon). When I added my commercial seaplane I was initially unable to judge height above the water until I used "near and far" scan...you *cannot* fixate in any landing!
Top tip: NEVER push the control column forward when landing. Constant back pressure, squeek in a bit of power if are too high and dropping like a stone.
Recommended to this from another CFI, will certainly show it to all my students!!! Excellent way to look at timing the flare!!! *Is this by chance KSNA? Looks surprisingly familiar...
We (obviously) grabbed this from AOPA since we found it so valuable...not sure where they shot it. I guess the ultimate point is it does not matter. Learning to land with parallax cues is "non contextual and should work anywhere (though out of luck on a grass field!) Thanks.
I can see this method and video being quintessential to learning a proper and solid foundation for a good flare. It is proving to be a rather tricky thing. Thank you. In Jesus' name you're healed. Ask the Holy Spirit into your heart and walk with the lead of a loving, Divine Father.
Timing to flare is different in every aircraft. The real aim is to fly from flight into ground effect.ie., wing span length vertical. The formula tells it all ie., CL.HAFEROW.V.SQUARED.S
You're talking about a transition phase in landing in which flaring has nothing to do with anything. After the round out you let the airplane fly straight down the runway keeping your eyes towards the end of the runway, while flying the plane a foot or less off the ground. As power is cut and the speed bleeds off the main gear will touch down. Anytime you flare and lose sight of the end of the runway don't expect good results. It's one way of getting off center line. I suppose this method can work for some people. If you don't have normal depth perception you shouldn't be flying.
I had too many difficulties for mastering my touchdowns. Yesterday, I watched this video and today I've successfully completed my first solo-flight in my Cessna 172 following this technique. My instructor was so impressed. Thank you so much for the video!
This has been the easiest and most precise technique. I'd about 40 landings before watching this video yesterday and not a single greaser - today I had 7 out of 10 "passable" touchdowns - thanks Rod!
This is the technique that I learned that solved my stall and drop in landings. I had the stabilized approach and approach speed. I had no idea when to roll out and flare. I guessed. Sometimes it worked and sometimes it did not. When I met Rod Machado, I told him how much this technique helped my landings. I discovered that this sudden expansion occurs over the aiming point and before the touchdown point. I also learned that if you can't see the end of the runway during the flare, you flared too much.
Jason Hallenborg If the runway width is less then this one, is this technic still work?
Flare too much and you bounce bad, especially if you’re coming in to fast, from my experience using the flight gear flight simulator.
Just stopping by to say this video single-handedly fixed my landing problem about a year ago prior to my solo
Sir your video is the best thing ever a student pilot could ever find.
UA-cam should recommend it.
Keep sharing with us your art❤
This video is 10 years old but the content still actual. I will do this technique on a grass field where markers and runway signs are much less numerous. Thanks for the tip Rod
These are the kind of things that never change....same planes and same challenges. Landing is still 90% visual
Most students are coming in too high and too fast. If you slow the airplane to the recommended 1.3 times VSO, for a C-172 it’s about 54 kts with full flaps. I use 60 over the threshold. I look down the runway and imagining you in a car going down a small hill, you will normally have the sight picture of near the bottom of the hill. I leave a small amount of power to increase rudder and elevator effectiveness. As soon as I’m flat, the airspeed will bleed off as you begin pulling power to idle. Then gently increase back pressure to about a takeoff attitude. You’ll touchdown mains first, soft and will have the nose up like the way an F-15 lands. Works well on low wing too. Don’t forget to look out of the Lindbergh reference for the lower corner of the front windscreen and look at your distance from the edge of the runway. This will help keep you from drifting. If you start to drift, use your rudder to keep nose straight and a little aileron toward the upwind side to minimize drift. Remember this, if you watch an airliner come in they don’t round out in flare. They maintain a specific attitude and slightly raise the nose more before touchdown. Kind of like the way you see a duck land on the pond.
Had flown helicopter for last 30 years before that trainer Jets. Flew C172R this month. Flare was not coming at all despite great efforts and 2 hours dual. Actually was unable to visualize the correct perspective, the widening of runway, travel of noise etc. Progressional ego hurt... Then I came across this wonderful training video. All concepts cleared.. Saw it around 20 times and then cleared my solo very next sortie. Million thanks Rod! You are great in teaching... Forwarded to few more Young trainee pilots.. All benefiting. In fact all your videos are of great training value.
Happy Landings
I can attest to this. I just started using this technique recently, and now I have more confidence when executing my landings. I've noticed that I've gotten better & better each time. Thanks, Rod!! :-)
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I got my PPL in 1984 but left the country shortly after and stopped flying due to finances. When I decided to become current again in the late 1990s I used Rod's private pilot handbook. It was excellent in that it comprehensively covered everything I needed with great explanations and sense of humor. Comparing it to Gleim which was drier than dust Rod's book was very enjoyable to read.
I used this in 2014 During my training as a student pilot. And here I am recommending it to a colleague. Thanks for a great video.
Hey! Its Rod :) He taught me to fly in FSX. Thanks Rod!
haha
Me too! In fs9 though, I'm old lol
+Mirandorl same here :D
The Lowmein How old r u
Me too XD
Just went solo today! thank you this really helped!
Congrats
Congratulations and blessed Career!
Congrats
Thanks...I think 90% of successful landing are the visual cues!
I am about to start my flying school time …. So so so excited to finally say hello to the clouds
Give this man a fucking medal
Thanks SO much for this video. I did my first landing today after watching this. The landing went great and my instructor was impressed!
This video changed everything! Every pilot should watch it!
Really interesting observation! Even though I have somewhat more experience than some contributors here, (400h), I am still not immune to judgement errors on flare. I have been looking at this in my flying over the past few days and I'm finding it to be very pertinent. Thanks Rod for this insightful tip!
I don't know about you guys but after this video I did the softest landing I've ever done in my life
Good to hear, landings are largely visual and Rod is a MASTER!!
Just went solo today! thank you this really helped!. Just went solo today! thank you this really helped!.
This is the best video I have seen on landings
It looks more like the point that the runway STOPS expanding, the clue that it's time to flare.
I soon figured out a similar technique when night flying, as most pilots probably do? Practicing for my (Cdn) night endorsement 45 yrs ago, when the 200 ft wide runway was as black as the sky, I noticed that the flare should be commenced as both sides of the runway-edge lights would seem to level out into a virtually straight horizon. It was pretty simple to anticipate and be set up in the flare. I don't remember ever miscalculating it as I knew that below that point there was no more air under the wheels, and the hole I felt I was descending into would get pretty hard right quick.
I haven't flown in a long while so I have no idea how common center-line lighting is today. We didn't have it in Thunder Bay, Ont., in 1970.
Care to elaborate on "both sides of the runway-edge lights would seem to level out into a virtually straight horizon" ? Thanks
I was always taught to watch for the runway flattening out as the moment to begin the flaire. Once I was told that, it all became much easier. This seems to be a variation of the same effect. Very useful tips.
Extremely helpful! I am having a difficult time with my landings and plan on using this next flight.
Hi Rod, I have started using this technique, and it really helps, I recently soloed and it helped me feel more confident!, Thanks Again, Doug
Definitely going to use this. I can land in my sleep in the day, but have terrible perception at night. Can't wait to try it out.
Good tutorial, thanks for sharing. I recall reading a number of articles back in the 70s in *Flying Magazine* that called this the "perspective break" method. Those were great articles back in the day, but they are no match for actual presentations, live graphics, video.
I have been using the Johnston's technique for many years with this technique on the left hand side of the runway with the hold off focused on the far end of threshold. This version would make it easier when doing a conversion on a newer type. The more one fly's a single type, the more set patterns of that types handling set in and changing to an other type with different features, is a learning blockage.
I can't wait to become a pilot ,its always nice to see people succeed and make their dreams come true.
I'm gonna go try this out today. Looks like it works.
Video not meant for flight simmers, but it’s a great technique for us. Depth perception is difficult on a screen, especially with no peripheral vision.
this really helped..got my solo today :D
+Adrian Wallace (Simplly Addy) Congrats
Is anyone else watching this in 2024😊
The explanation during the visual example was great, really the whole video was good, though I would like to see this with both narrow and wide runways while using the same basic airplane for demonstration.(50ft and 150ft wide) I am going to give this a try tomorrow.
Taking in this info and will apply it to my next session on Wednesday. At 20+ hours and still working on landings, very frustrating
My first day of landing training i didn’t know what I was doing but they were perfect. 4 lands touched down pretty smooth for a first timer. Second day of landing training all horrible, third day all drop ins , horrible. The thing I did differently was study how to land and I think my knowledge ended up killing my innate ability to trust the plan. Last night was my first day of night landings and 8 landing two were acceptable (to me , my instructor says I’m not the worst student he’s trained) , next time I attempt my landings I’m going to try this.
Landing is a tough part of training (and if you pressure yourself you make it worse obviously). Try to relax a bit and breathe so you can feel the plane. Scanning near and far often gives the best awareness of how high you are above the runway and how fast you are settling (the critical/necessary ingredient in landing) Good luck!
Amazing video! So simple and i really understood it.
This simple technique has helped many of our students land with fewer hours and a lot less stress. I suspect that most CFIs do not really know how to teach landings (from the incompetent pilots I have met). We will all be safer thanks to Rod!
The best tip. Thanks
Thanks you Rob, it just works this technuiqe is so easy that I almost can't belive it :)
Great video thanks for sharing very helpful as I'm doing my ppl
Damn, i always screw the FLARE thing..... thanks for the video.
Thanks Rod!
Brilliant video
Great video and very practical helpful tip!
It seems that the graph is not totally accurate as the rate of runway expansion should decrease after its peak back down to zero at time of landing.
Will try this afternoon.
Going soloing tomorrow. Thank you
Great! Best of luck (a day you will never forget!)
Bro this helped me out. I soloed today and I sucked at the landing and I didn’t understand the “sight picture “
amazing! Genius!
The decent rate plays a big role in this... if you are on glideslope, it's easy.. if you are above glideslope (more common with GA) then that transition to level flight is 10x more difficult.
I actually have always taught VFR approaches at a steeper angle; it makes landing quite a bit easier (counter-intuitive I know). The three degree glidpath is for IFR...
@@YouNumba1 If you are on short final at 500' AGL vs 100' and your VSI is -500 compared to -150... I think it's obvious what is the more consistent secure and soft landing... the only rationale to the steep approach is to be always within glide distance of the runway while in the circuit... not to mention turning a GA aircraft into a glider doesn't work well on windy days!... unless I'm missing something here... I was taught both, and putting one red light on the PAPI is the easier landing, and better when you have to put it on the numbers, if it's a small runway.
Rod please use-split screen as you describe theory-and graphs That helps to-memoriezeand integrate theory-to action
Thank you rod mochado!!! :D
great video Rod, I solo today!!
Does it work with all widths ?
Sink stall touchdown. Ho many times have buzzers been screaming on final flair
Really helpful! Thanks!
Did he say Induced drag? Isn't the Aircraft in ground effect?
How would you apply this to Seaplane landings?
This specific technique (with side lines) does not work well for grass, skis of water landing. It is *very* helpful to still look near and far (especially to the horizon). When I added my commercial seaplane I was initially unable to judge height above the water until I used "near and far" scan...you *cannot* fixate in any landing!
So when you say 1.3 times the stall speed of the aircraft, does it mean the clean stall speed or the landing configuration stall speed?
Top tip: NEVER push the control column forward when landing. Constant back pressure, squeek in a bit of power if are too high and dropping like a stone.
Recommended to this from another CFI, will certainly show it to all my students!!! Excellent way to look at timing the flare!!! *Is this by chance KSNA? Looks surprisingly familiar...
We (obviously) grabbed this from AOPA since we found it so valuable...not sure where they shot it. I guess the ultimate point is it does not matter. Learning to land with parallax cues is "non contextual and should work anywhere (though out of luck on a grass field!) Thanks.
Damn, this is really helpful.
Perfect 👍
It’s one of the toughest things for student pilots to get the HANG OF
my airport has runway center line widening device.
We all could use one of those...
I can see this method and video being quintessential to learning a proper and solid foundation for a good flare. It is proving to be a rather tricky thing. Thank you.
In Jesus' name you're healed.
Ask the Holy Spirit into your heart and walk with the lead of a loving, Divine Father.
Looking forward to trying this tomorrow, is it applicable for short/soft field?
sure is you just don't have centre lines but there are gable markers to assist you ensure you are between them by 400 feet otherwise go around
Pretty cool
Thanks.
I like it but it won't be easy to apply when landing on grass
Use the white gable markers to assist you. Ensure you are center between them at 400 feet
Timing to flare is different in every aircraft. The real aim is to fly from flight into ground effect.ie., wing span length vertical. The formula tells it all ie., CL.HAFEROW.V.SQUARED.S
I like when I can see the airplane's shadow next to me on the ground which I can watch!
You're talking about a transition phase in landing in which flaring has nothing to do with anything. After the round out you let the airplane fly straight down the runway keeping your eyes towards the end of the runway, while flying the plane a foot or less off the ground. As power is cut and the speed bleeds off the main gear will touch down. Anytime you flare and lose sight of the end of the runway don't expect good results. It's one way of getting off center line. I suppose this method can work for some people. If you don't have normal depth perception you shouldn't be flying.
the intro reminds me of the opening of the song "Faith" by george Michael
Thanks sir
Aiming point moves i think, who can help me with the short field landing
theoretical in some aircraft the yoke pull in not linear,
hope it's useful
thats helpful
2:45
expansion. thanks
Who else is here in 2020 for FSX
This got patched.
Yess the american are the best!!!
FSX pilots, please watch this. Try and not focus on Rob's hands, it's distracting. Content is good. Thanks - Lumpy
Town stalkers. Better listning tights
deez guyz r hut
Looked like 4 white PAPI. Why so far above standard approach path? That is wasting the first part of the runway.
lol fsx
Excellent information ! THX......
Jesus is coming back soon!