China’s last cave people

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  • @hongpingmike
    @hongpingmike 6 років тому +6258

    That cave looks really clean

    • @krimmer66
      @krimmer66 6 років тому +245

      My first thought was their community should build a few small bed and breakfast, but then they would have to deal with tourists lol

    • @thomasnewmann7903
      @thomasnewmann7903 6 років тому +40

      I thought the same thing. It looks great.

    • @humansrtrash324
      @humansrtrash324 6 років тому +23

      Ikr its pretty

    • @tanzen1020
      @tanzen1020 5 років тому +149

      @@krimmer66 and the tourists will ruin the cleanliness

    • @namelesswarrior4760
      @namelesswarrior4760 5 років тому +46

      It is so easy to romanticized things when we don't have to do it ourselves hey! Would any of you like to live there with your family and kids?

  • @sitoudien9816
    @sitoudien9816 6 років тому +2175

    Don't build a tourist trap. Help build their economy. A camp or cottage. Uncontrolled tourism will destroy their home.

    • @diane9247
      @diane9247 6 років тому +153

      The government doesn't want to "help build their economy." It wants to control them so they won't go rogue and develop their own economy. But, yes, if they get too many tourists, it will destroy what they have.

    • @joseph_wei
      @joseph_wei 6 років тому +9

      Yes, that is why they want tourists, to destroy their home.

    • @redarX
      @redarX 6 років тому +1

      Sitou Dien yeah

    • @shnbwmn
      @shnbwmn 6 років тому +79

      diane9247 - that's your biased western perspective. What do you mean "go rogue" and "build their own economy"? They already do that. Perhaps you don't know that China's economy is only communist in name, in reality it's closer to socio-capitalism.

    • @reneernesto5748
      @reneernesto5748 6 років тому

      Sitou Dien wisest comment

  • @taatje89
    @taatje89 3 роки тому +2332

    When i was living in the outskirts of Guiyang every few weeks some Miao women would come to pick up coal, it was an 8 hour walk to come and then 8 hours with a heavy load to walk back. So much respect for them.

    • @Xavier_Renegade_Angel
      @Xavier_Renegade_Angel 3 роки тому +46

      Is this UA-cam channel just Chinese propaganda or something 🤔

    • @porterde08
      @porterde08 3 роки тому +9

      @@Xavier_Renegade_Angel yes

    • @TrollProductionsMC
      @TrollProductionsMC 3 роки тому +20

      @@shogunguy Yup chinese government is what the villain corporation in sci-fi futuristic series/movies look like.

    • @HAYAOLEONE
      @HAYAOLEONE 3 роки тому +15

      @@shogunguy muslims can all go back to saudi arabia and stay there forever

    • @MannyBands
      @MannyBands 3 роки тому +43

      @@HAYAOLEONE wow bro very racist

  • @k.m.9418
    @k.m.9418 6 років тому +3521

    Instead of making them leave, the govt should invest in these ppl's culture and history to attract tourism. These places should be conserved for culture and history.

    • @WinterAlt
      @WinterAlt 6 років тому +285

      If only you knew how the government works in China, you would know conservation isn’t their specialty...

    • @hmongb9656
      @hmongb9656 6 років тому +5

      I Wish for that to be true but it's not

    • @wuming8162
      @wuming8162 6 років тому +134

      No government should spent millions to built roads through mountainous region to help only a few people. They will never do that in the U.S. As for the culture and history, its only since the 1940s when China was chaotic during WW2. 24 families Miao tribe where trying to hide form bandits, not the entire tribe. From what I understand is that these people were offered housing in lower areas where the infrastructure is already in place.

    • @diane9247
      @diane9247 6 років тому +26

      +k.m. The people who live there are preserving the village, the government doesn't need to do it.

    • @fkmui03
      @fkmui03 6 років тому +31

      Hard to because the land is a national park..
      cant be build for tourism it for self sustain habitat for wild animal and forest

  • @iei2781
    @iei2781 4 роки тому +5425

    Everyone here in the comments seem to be missing the point:we get it, you think the thought of living in a cave away from civilization sounds like the life, but if you bothered paying attention to what the man was saying at all is that life in the cave is pretty hard, and while the alternative isn't anymore ideal, their current situation clearly isn't paradise either

    • @aminovoltage9551
      @aminovoltage9551 4 роки тому +68

      Well said

    • @embrace739
      @embrace739 4 роки тому +79

      This lifestyle aint for everyone if you can't reset your brain don't do it. But for me it wouldnt be a problem

    • @Username-qu1jt
      @Username-qu1jt 4 роки тому +14

      Snakes bug etc.

    • @ihkeseteeietos5722
      @ihkeseteeietos5722 4 роки тому +305

      Some people love romanticizing living in poor in countryside when in reality its a very hard life.

    • @Kopie0830
      @Kopie0830 4 роки тому +5

      @Kurogane -sensei How about surviving a nuclear blast?

  • @floraguilar60
    @floraguilar60 3 роки тому +1180

    I kind of get it why they don’t wanna leave. It might be a cave with bamboo houses but it’s their home. I rather stay in a place where I feel at peace than living where I feel I don’t belong.

    • @elias8294
      @elias8294 3 роки тому +98

      Their lives have a high probability of becoming worse if they leave that cave

    • @santyclause8034
      @santyclause8034 3 роки тому +76

      Don't forget the noise and smell of a city, they would find that extremely hard to tolerate when they have only known accessible clean fresh air and the sounds of natural serenity, peacefull calm and quietitude, and a space to call their own.

    • @barrylinkiewich9688
      @barrylinkiewich9688 3 роки тому +35

      Move from a cave village with no job to a city with no job... seems like a pretty sticky choice to me.

    • @liltunturi1251
      @liltunturi1251 3 роки тому +18

      Anything that cost you your peace is too expensive

    • @TrollProductionsMC
      @TrollProductionsMC 3 роки тому +40

      Plus where he said the government promised them one thing but they gave something else might not be such a big deal in our eyes but it shows they don't trust the government and they feel like they are being tricked and going to get their home taken away with no returning it incase they regret their decision.

  • @Righteous1ist
    @Righteous1ist 6 років тому +3631

    Leave them alone, not everyone needs to live in the cities

    • @杜子垩
      @杜子垩 6 років тому +196

      They WANT to live a better life. Not everyone needs to live in a cave.

    • @JaejoongPrincess
      @JaejoongPrincess 6 років тому +211

      @@杜子垩 But they want to live in the cave and refuse to leave, which seem pretty cool. I would love to visit there.

    • @杜子垩
      @杜子垩 6 років тому +68

      JaejoongPrincess Well it's definitely cool if thier village could become a tourist attraction. But the fact is China have too many these kind of tourist attraction, so this one can't be very popular. Sadly they can only choose one of them,higher life quality or stay in cave. ╮(╯▽╰)╭

    • @Baldoxxx4000
      @Baldoxxx4000 6 років тому +19

      a communist country will always be a communist

    • @Nixxinity
      @Nixxinity 6 років тому +24

      @@杜子垩 the cave will have automatic shelter so pretty much you allready have a nice dry, cool place to take shelter from storms and wind

  • @wildshepherd5918
    @wildshepherd5918 3 роки тому +522

    Living off the land is not always poverty. Not compared to poverty in cities.

    • @socrates_the_great6209
      @socrates_the_great6209 3 роки тому +16

      They look rich compared to real poor people.

    • @Malfoy1594
      @Malfoy1594 3 роки тому +3

      But they can only grow corn lol

    • @Malfoy1594
      @Malfoy1594 3 роки тому +16

      @Brandon G says Brandon who probably eats McDonalds on a weekly basis. Farming is not a new concept sis! Millions of people live on farming by either choice or due to poverty. Regardless... You still need to pay taxes. So even if the "elite" have this huge conspiracy and you "learn" to live off the land, since its the brand new concept... you still have to pay them taxes for living / cultivating a piece of land, especially if you purchased it.

    • @Malfoy1594
      @Malfoy1594 3 роки тому +6

      @Brandon G Sure Jan

    • @mariafernandacruztrejo4382
      @mariafernandacruztrejo4382 3 роки тому

      In the city there's no land you can live off.

  • @lazylion420
    @lazylion420 3 роки тому +668

    this is like the village you would come across in an RPG where the master trainers for herbalism and mining can be found

    • @MrAhmes2001
      @MrAhmes2001 3 роки тому +11

      .... Neeeeerd

    • @zabifaqiri4192
      @zabifaqiri4192 3 роки тому +3

      I was about to comment til I saw urs ... you spoke my mind 😌

    • @MrAhmes2001
      @MrAhmes2001 3 роки тому +3

      @Jinyuan LI ... geeeeeeek

    • @MrAhmes2001
      @MrAhmes2001 3 роки тому +4

      @Jinyuan LI looooool

    • @kishascape
      @kishascape 3 роки тому

      Yeah dwarfs. Like in OSRS when you go in the mines under edgeville and ice mountain.

  • @MacCadalso
    @MacCadalso 4 роки тому +3864

    “Have you been living under a rock?”
    “Yes. And I still am.”

    • @bethymears2648
      @bethymears2648 4 роки тому +12

      Yes I'm the famous cave lady from Brooklyn Australia.
      Where I put my tent in a hollow incase the huge rock might fall and every day it crosses your mind there maybe an Earth Quake,
      Where you would not survive.
      I now live in a unit,but still miss my cave life.

    • @sortof3337
      @sortof3337 3 роки тому +3

      @@bethymears2648 lol there is brooklyn in australia. :DD

    • @bethymears2648
      @bethymears2648 3 роки тому +1

      @@sortof3337 yes about 2 hours from Sydney.

    • @kinezikinezi1730
      @kinezikinezi1730 3 роки тому

      Imagine what those chinese in cave eat!! Humans flesh

    • @danielawesome36
      @danielawesome36 3 роки тому

      @@sortof3337 It's in New South Wales, Australia.

  • @metadragon7500
    @metadragon7500 4 роки тому +1463

    Gonna be honest, the natural scenery is just beautiful.

  • @SonnyHoood
    @SonnyHoood 3 роки тому +317

    This man feels he has no knowledge, but he grows his own crops and lives off the land like his grandparents have for more than 70 years. He has a lot to teach the world and we should learn from him

    • @Name-ej3px
      @Name-ej3px 3 роки тому +7

      Old comment, but what can he teach that will be applicable in an industrialised world? The most I can think of is how to live a minimalistic lifestyle.

    • @SonnyHoood
      @SonnyHoood 3 роки тому +4

      @@Name-ej3px humility for 1

    • @Name-ej3px
      @Name-ej3px 3 роки тому +8

      @@SonnyHoood That's next to impossible to teach. And, let's be honest, nobody bothers listening to others teaching values. If instilling values were easy, the world would be a much better place.

    • @SonnyHoood
      @SonnyHoood 3 роки тому +3

      @@Name-ej3px true most people just want to talk, without actually listening

  • @SeriouslyCalibrated
    @SeriouslyCalibrated 6 років тому +1346

    I don't see the problem living here, way better than in the city

    • @limcharles9730
      @limcharles9730 6 років тому +13

      they choose to live like that... hermits

    • @jimborock2632
      @jimborock2632 6 років тому +130

      Other than a lack of high paying jobs, these people are probably healthier than their city dwelling counterparts. It's a paradise that place.

    • @shuchenli5753
      @shuchenli5753 6 років тому +86

      Jimbo Rock Living there means leaving modern healthcare and accessibility to convince clean water. It is rare to see those people have higher average life expectancy than urban population.

    • @reinamatheny9972
      @reinamatheny9972 6 років тому +61

      These people are what we used to be years and years ago~ if they are happy leave the the heck alone~ if they wanna move let em~ do NOT force or impose your ideas and beliefs on them~ that is how the Native Americans lost their homes and culture. Don't be so arrogant to think YOUR life is any better than their life. They are NOT hermits and even if they were~ why does that bother you? Typical extrovert thinking.

    • @scorpioninpink
      @scorpioninpink 6 років тому +35

      Sanitation, basic services, utilities and availability of resources?

  • @amorky8391
    @amorky8391 6 років тому +339

    Someone needs to help them learn which other crops will grow there. If you can grow corn you can grow other things. That way if one crop fails you've got others to fall back on for food.

    • @Thatonlyone678
      @Thatonlyone678 5 років тому +25

      I guess it is also due to the lack of fertile soil and land that they have limited choice .

    • @derpdude42
      @derpdude42 5 років тому +10

      @@mike.p.1400 chill

    • @saarinenj1
      @saarinenj1 4 роки тому +2

      @@derpdude42 Chill.

    • @lexb277
      @lexb277 4 роки тому +1

      @@saarinenj1 chill.

    • @deeznutz9319
      @deeznutz9319 4 роки тому

      @@mike.p.1400 chill the fk out m8

  • @PK-vw3gd
    @PK-vw3gd 3 роки тому +86

    It's a special village, I hope for their prosperity.

  • @liang8255
    @liang8255 6 років тому +982

    I don't think they live that bad, they have much more surface and space to live than most city people, they eat organic food everyday probably self grown, they don't need to get up every morning to go to work and pay taxes! They don't have debt, no mortgage, no cars to care. I don't think they receive any bills at end of each month and worry about it.

    • @liang8255
      @liang8255 6 років тому +25

      Yes, a rather heavy physical toll to most of us. However, I once travelled to such place, some aboriginals chose to live out make more money, most chose to stay in mountains. They see differently, that we live in a contaminated world, overfed ourselves with industrial feed and getting cancer all sorts bizarre sickness and are simply physically impotent.
      Well, I can't live their way but they do make a good point.

    • @liang8255
      @liang8255 6 років тому +17

      Yeah yeah, sure you hate China. China has many problems, you know what, it's not yours. No one force you to live in China. You are free to move to Israel live with Jews or Gaza or wherever the hell of desert you wish.
      Leave China and Chinese problem to us. It's not yours. I don't think China likes you either.
      However from your bitter words against China and its gouvernment I suspect you care, and it's pure sourness. If that's the case, I feel very sorry for you.

    • @liang8255
      @liang8255 6 років тому +22

      You know kid, 20 years back I was like you, you are just young and fresh and you have ideas and are angry. It's not bad how you feel, it's good.
      I give you a piece of advice, you should go and live somewhere else for at least 10 years, go to work, pay taxes, get a mortgage and raise a kid ot two (not like a student), then you would understand what real stress is in life and how it works.
      I live in Europe, other family members are in US, I think you should try one or two of these places and do what I said, I won't recommend you to go to Israel (it's desert, dangerous, women forces carrying automatic weapons on street, it's not funny, been there). To practice your democratic idea you better choose Europe like France, or US, better for you.
      You know China is not a perfect place to live but it's improving.
      Democracy is just cocaine, and we just increase our dosage by the day. One day you will understand.

    • @liang8255
      @liang8255 6 років тому +11

      Because I thought it like you 20 years ago, I made my choice and built my life and had my family... Now I am working for Chinese and going back to China very often and see it's changing. I am not at the point to give up all my built up life and assets go back to China to restart from zero.
      But one day as my wife sais (she's European), if it goes really too bad here: islamization, shrinking social warefare, strikes, etc... we will be gone. I just hope it won't come soon.
      Forget about socialism, capitalism, blablabla. It's rule or been ruled, only matters if its works or it's melting down.
      I really hope you can move to Europe or US, living in it, it will really help you to understand. It was great, it was like paradise back in 90s, even unemployed people receive social house like a villa, but these days are long gone, and people don't even talk about future anymore like phobia. I don't need you to believe me, but please come and see by yourself.

    • @DeeMonaVanilla
      @DeeMonaVanilla 6 років тому +3

      Exactly ! And most importantly, they would have taken to opportunity to move away as soon as they could have ! But they choose to stay. I know they have hardships, but they also have a certain quality of life, otherwise they wouldn’t prefer staying where they are

  • @AlphaDogLXIII
    @AlphaDogLXIII 6 років тому +789

    why force people out of villages? it's more loss of old culture and traditions

    • @laststandinstalingrad5162
      @laststandinstalingrad5162 6 років тому +15

      Dog alpha the government isn’t

    • @Miquelalalaa
      @Miquelalalaa 6 років тому +32

      Dog alpha That isn’t really old culture but ok

    • @qv8281
      @qv8281 6 років тому +8

      They were probably forced into those caves by Mao

    • @qv8281
      @qv8281 6 років тому

      Nothing to see here hur dur! when was Mao born and when does it say these people moved into that cave

    • @qv8281
      @qv8281 6 років тому +4

      Nothing to see here so you call me an idiot and say I haven’t done any research then in a paragraph that contradicts itself “there has been definite answer for when the village was built because of how less information online” go on to say that the village was built before the communist revolution yet the villagers say they built it in 1949 why would they lie they won’t move because of inadequate alternative housing the government is offering so you can fuck off you pleb

  • @fireflyexposed
    @fireflyexposed 3 роки тому +138

    The thought of living so isolated seems incredibly scary ... so I can imagine what it would feel like to do it in reverse.
    I couldn't imagine having the choice of a hard life in a cave or a hard life in a village with next to no skills. I feel dreadfully sorry for these people, it's tough.

    • @shrags1
      @shrags1 2 роки тому

      Only difference is, skills can be nurtured, and while getting used to a cave lifestyle in a fully naturalistic environment grows on you, one can't run from the fact that it's unhealthy to live tribal and cut off from the world like that. And that takes a toll on anyone mentally, especially while comprehending that there are available alternatives. This is I'm sure it's complicated but to me it sounds like there's anxiety more than anything, they wouldn't move in because of the way the houses were built, yeah right.. how minimalist of you

    • @shrags1
      @shrags1 2 роки тому

      People need to connect people, a lot of them. Constantly. We all belong interconnected. Enjoy your cave, make the best out of it..

  • @bella95
    @bella95 6 років тому +182

    A breathtakingly beautiful place! I hope it can work out for them 💕

  • @erni25
    @erni25 3 роки тому +91

    The sound of the nature is so enchanting.

  • @matthewramroop
    @matthewramroop 3 роки тому +393

    The village looks like a miniature toy set of sorts. Just adds to the surreal nature of this village.

  • @joseeftindog7870
    @joseeftindog7870 3 роки тому +411

    Tourist: Do you hear that? Is that a roar?
    Caveman: It's just a chicken.

  • @Labgorilla
    @Labgorilla 3 роки тому +69

    Villagers are right to be skeptical and afraid of outsiders.

  • @GreedWraith
    @GreedWraith 3 роки тому +685

    Imagine walking in the woods and you will heared that sound like a monster.
    Then its just a chicken .

    • @k9man163
      @k9man163 3 роки тому +18

      chickens are monsters 😂

    • @justcloggedthetoilet
      @justcloggedthetoilet 3 роки тому +25

      Chickens were once dinosaurs
      Respect the chicken

    • @Corrosion37
      @Corrosion37 3 роки тому +1

      @@justcloggedthetoilet dinosaurs are made up

    • @justcloggedthetoilet
      @justcloggedthetoilet 3 роки тому +3

      @@Corrosion37 If dinosaurs are made up...
      ARE CHICKENS MADE UP?!?!????!

    • @Corrosion37
      @Corrosion37 3 роки тому

      @@justcloggedthetoilet yeah but chickens are right in front of us. What evidence do we have of dinosaurs. Made up history to hide our real past.

  • @bowhunter928
    @bowhunter928 4 роки тому +62

    The roosters echoing against the cave walls are kind of eerie. They probably don't even notice it anymore, though.

  • @furyc4144
    @furyc4144 6 років тому +217

    It looks peaceful and nice :)

  • @MissingNumber
    @MissingNumber 3 роки тому +191

    Hearing the animals in the background is haunting and peaceful at the same time

    • @anuk1311
      @anuk1311 3 роки тому +2

      It's only haunting because of the echo

    • @MrDumb4u
      @MrDumb4u 3 роки тому +1

      It feels so depressing when you don't hear any humans (aside from the one giving an interview) and only animal sounds

    • @deusvult697
      @deusvult697 3 роки тому +5

      @@MrDumb4u For you maybe. I'd be quite happy hearing just animal sounds. The sound of people would depress me.

  • @MrChronicpayne
    @MrChronicpayne 6 років тому +52

    This is the coolest village I have ever seen in my life.

  • @ontheedge33371
    @ontheedge33371 6 років тому +89

    It is very cool to see these villages :) I have mixed feelings about having them Change . They look clean and healthy there is no plastic garbage like everywhere else ! The government should allow them to stay and bring small groups of tourists to see the cave Without disrupting the natural way that’s had 70 plus years to develop

  • @danny7694
    @danny7694 3 роки тому +46

    That has to be one of the coolest looking villages i've ever seen.

  • @Dovid2000
    @Dovid2000 6 років тому +41

    It never rains on that village.

  • @Lapantouflemagic0
    @Lapantouflemagic0 3 роки тому +30

    what they need is not to be relocated, they need proper equipement to grow more crops, and a road, water, electricity, communications.

    • @thetimelapseguy8
      @thetimelapseguy8 3 роки тому +3

      That would be an incredibly expensive project for about 50 residents. It would be like 2 million spent for each resident

    • @mau345
      @mau345 3 роки тому +1

      @@thetimelapseguy8 but wouldnt the govt want the development of the area to attract more people to live their? Or at least make the economic sector strive there? Nobody wants overcrowded cities.

    • @godmode8687
      @godmode8687 3 роки тому +1

      @@mau345 It is a national park. Why would they want to attract more people to live there?
      And what kind of economy sector could strive there, if there only live 50 people, which would pay back for the cost of roads etc?
      They wont earn in a lifetime what it costs to build even a quarter of the road. Roads are unbelievable costly.

  • @kimbaldun
    @kimbaldun 3 роки тому +551

    Imagine if this was U.S and this channel just leaked the location, it'll turn into tourists spot right away

    • @zokomonofficial40
      @zokomonofficial40 3 роки тому +46

      This isn't the first time I've seen you lol Kim bald un

    • @beatriz6403
      @beatriz6403 3 роки тому +13

      ahahhahaha kim bald un

    • @janitor_arya9011
      @janitor_arya9011 3 роки тому +19

      Supreme leader, please free my father from full day labour prison

    • @sethc4758
      @sethc4758 3 роки тому +39

      yeah but as the guy says at 2:45, tourism really helps them make money and the tourism has really dried up in recent years. and lets not forget youre talking about Americans, 50% of those who could or would want to travel there wouldnt walk the 2 and a half hours to get to the village, another 25% of those wouldnt make the hike without a guide

    • @social3ngin33rin
      @social3ngin33rin 3 роки тому +3

      lololol so true, their village would suddenly have profit but a lot of litter to clean up from tourists; the gov would have to come in to regulate the tourists

  • @mingsong
    @mingsong 6 років тому +99

    It must be very cool during summer.

  • @keithgood3419
    @keithgood3419 6 років тому +46

    Yeah I could DEFINITELY handle living there for a while, that place looks and sounds awesome!!!!!
    I really hope they get things worked out so they can stay there, plus have enough money to live AND enough money to save!!!!!
    *_GOD BLESS THEM AND GOD BLESS YOU ALL!!!_*

    • @quanyuan6760
      @quanyuan6760 6 років тому +2

      Keith Good now CCP government have built some electricity and internet wires in to that place so they can have electricity and wifi.

  • @jellyfishnymph6271
    @jellyfishnymph6271 3 роки тому +56

    Wow, I've always thought that when the elders say "cave people" they only meant "mountain village people" but using "cave people" as an underhanded phrase..... We were literally cave people.
    Respect.

    • @アマ-p2l
      @アマ-p2l 3 роки тому +2

      There was a cataclysmic event when the earths magnetic poles "jumped", it exposes us to radiation from the sun, that's why people moved into caves, to seek shelter, we were never really cave people just like these people probably spend the day outside, not in the cave. For ancient humans it was probably the other way around, they could only leave the cave at night.

    • @Polymerata
      @Polymerata 2 роки тому

      @@アマ-p2l you just debunk my childhood mystery

    • @アマ-p2l
      @アマ-p2l 2 роки тому +1

      @@Polymerata There's still plenty of mysteries. They are just now finding remains of huge civilizations in the rain forests and finally admitting ancient cilizations are a lot older than what the ignorant history books report. For example there are some accurate ancient maps of the globe but they are only accurate if you match them to the time they were drawn. Lots of ridiculous claims such as the pyramids were built just 2000 years ago never made any sense whatsoever and are finally being rejected and explored.

    • @Polymerata
      @Polymerata 2 роки тому

      @@アマ-p2l the Amazon?

    • @アマ-p2l
      @アマ-p2l 2 роки тому

      @@Polymerata Yeah we're starting to unravel things like civilizations in the Amazonas rainforests now. 2018 they found mega structures thanks to satellite scans. Whenever technology makes us able to provide proof of alternate theories about some ancient civilizations which make much more sense than the history books, we will find ourselfs drowning in new discoveries. For example once drone/remote control robot technology moves further, we can just smuggle a camera into ancient sites that have obvious underground structures which have been blocked off and never officially been investigated.
      Here's an article from 2018 about the Amazonas discovery:
      Analysis of satellite images and drone footage has revealed an extensive, pre-Colombian settlement dating back to 1250‒1500 A.D.
      At their height, as many as one million people may have lived in these settlements, according to the study published Tuesday in the journal Nature Communications.
      “Many parts of the Americas now thought of as pristine forest are really abandoned gardens,” Christopher Fisher, a Colorado State University archaeologist who was not associated with the study, told the Wall Street Journal. “When you are on the ground, you cannot really see the landscape. You need a bird’s-eye view.”
      The last part is kind of cringey because a lot of the "discoveries" we made recently and will make in the future which we "cannot really see" have year old youtube videos about them so in reality the ignorance has other causes. There are countless ancient mega structures that archeologists and history books pretend were created by nature.

  • @SCL111
    @SCL111 4 роки тому +15

    I think it is quite magical that they live in houses in a cave. Very mystical. That place is quite unique, with some development and infrastructure (new roads, update the housing), it could easily become a tourist attraction. And they could benefit from getting advice from agricultural experts, maybe explore more sustainable farming methods, some aquaculture. Open a cute, decent-size, well-designed farm-to-fork restaurant. With some marketing, it could be a success.

  • @allensjwkwow
    @allensjwkwow 6 років тому +371

    i feel like all the cave people need are just some better farming equipment and home necessities and they'ed be aight, correct me if im wrong 🗿

    • @yagowon8322
      @yagowon8322 6 років тому +21

      allen liu They said they want a road.

    • @Bulsh1tMan
      @Bulsh1tMan 5 років тому +17

      After seeing how they planted that corn, probably some farming lessons as well.

    • @tomi4717
      @tomi4717 5 років тому +2

      @@Bulsh1tMan yeah lol

    • @animewatch4213
      @animewatch4213 5 років тому +21

      @@yagowon8322 The corrupt government will only build the road once they clear these guys out and build their own hotels and tourist attractions.

    • @Fuutoux
      @Fuutoux 4 роки тому +2

      @@animewatch4213 its all because benefits, the government wont give the road free or sth

  • @some_randomninja
    @some_randomninja 3 роки тому +109

    It looks tough, hard and depressing but at the same time, peaceful, authentic, stress free. Stress from things we are used to dealing with, finding food, not new stress- rent, job, etc

    • @liltunturi1251
      @liltunturi1251 3 роки тому +11

      i like how you mentioned: stress from things we are used to dealing with.. There are people who want to live simply and independently, but being born in a time and place where we need job, rent, check our documents, check the news for covid, what new bs is government want from us to do.
      Very confusing and spiritually degrading if you ask me.
      People often tell me just to ignore it, there is nothing i can do about it, huh? I dont think positivity should mean ignorance, rather appreciation, gratitude, generosity, humbleness.
      It feels like point of life in these times is to get hypnotised and forget about yourself, youth, emotions, dreams - and just do what you are "supposed to".

    • @TrollProductionsMC
      @TrollProductionsMC 3 роки тому +1

      @@liltunturi1251 Let's go deep into the untouched giant forests in Russia where you could spend lifetimes never coming across anyone and just start a little settlement.

    • @liltunturi1251
      @liltunturi1251 3 роки тому +2

      @@TrollProductionsMC I sometimes dream about going to remote places in Siberian taiga, or Kavkaz mountains at Georgian border. Seeing untouched nature scenery

    • @shutup3039
      @shutup3039 3 роки тому

      Nothing depresssing about this as it is a community which works

    • @liltunturi1251
      @liltunturi1251 3 роки тому

      @@shutup3039 They manage, they have been able to stay like this for decades. But maybe being used to the same happenings, nothing changing can be truly depressing

  • @darkenergy9893
    @darkenergy9893 6 років тому +139

    China is a beatiful country.

    • @nathandenault3136
      @nathandenault3136 6 років тому +12

      DARK ENERGY it’s a beautiful country being destroyed by the CCP.

    • @laststandinstalingrad5162
      @laststandinstalingrad5162 6 років тому +22

      Nathan Denault how is it being destroyed?

    • @nathandenault3136
      @nathandenault3136 6 років тому +11

      Lawrence Wong If you call destroying over 5,000 years of culture in just half a decade good leadership, I don’t know how to help you. What’s left of actual Chinese culture now that the CCP has had its way with things? The Chinese wear Western clothing, shake hands as a greeting instead of bowing, govern themselves with and ideology invented by a German, their marching style is copied off of the Prussian Stechschritt, their military uniforms are based off of the USSR, all of their modernized buildings are built in western fashion, and they don’t even follow their great leader Mao Zedong’s teachings anymore. Chairman Deng threw Mao’s ideology out the window. China is in many ways more capitalist than The West. That’s why China is the world’s biggest polluter. Party bosses and corrupt CEO’s rule China. All of China’s previous emperors are spinning in their graves. Chairman Mao probably would be too. However in his case, he would be rolling in a glass box.

    • @nathandenault3136
      @nathandenault3136 6 років тому +1

      Peoples Liberation Army Read my reply to Lawrence down below.

    • @laststandinstalingrad5162
      @laststandinstalingrad5162 6 років тому +6

      Nathan Denault A country of 5000 years that never seen a united country or its countrymen.A country that was plagued by invaders,diseases and corruption.A country of 5000 years has seen its best years under the CCP.This is a know fact.So basically you want Chinese people go back to traditional clothing and other things.Are you not aware that females never seen any type of rights in 5000 years until Mao changed that?Theirs many countries that copied each other and this isn’t a new concept.The Europeans copied China’s concept of warfare.Nazi scientists used Ancient Chinese methods of rockets to create the V1/V2 rockets.Yes Chinese leaders still bow and do traditional things but the progress of China is unprecedented than any country of the 21 century.Lifting more people of of poverty than the Europeans could even handle of their own.

  • @Alex-Rainmaker
    @Alex-Rainmaker 6 років тому +363

    They seems so carefree, I could even hear a rooster crowing. Unlike city life, always hear my colleagues complaining & my boss barking. LOL!

    • @sakunthaladaniel663
      @sakunthaladaniel663 4 роки тому +12

      Cities are terrible somtimes

    • @Celinekho05
      @Celinekho05 4 роки тому +2

      I live in city, but i can hear rooster crowing wvery morning :p

    • @zhenyucai8688
      @zhenyucai8688 4 роки тому +2

      Meh it depends what you prefer, nothing wrong with pretending you'd enjoy a boring life in the village.

    • @mpachinko4069
      @mpachinko4069 4 роки тому +6

      Umm that rooster crowing in that cave day and night. No thanks.

    • @via3903
      @via3903 4 роки тому +1

      Your boss barking? 😂

  • @xTravelx
    @xTravelx 3 роки тому +38

    A village in a cave sounds like something straight out of a fantasy game.

  • @SmokingNoir
    @SmokingNoir 5 років тому +1403

    Their lives would 100% be worse if they left the cave.

    • @Baymax-xs6jw
      @Baymax-xs6jw 5 років тому +10

      Exactly!

    • @Dumb-Comment
      @Dumb-Comment 5 років тому +131

      They are just not used to city life, but imagine they have to walk 2 and a half hour to get to a hospital if sick, buying things like electronics and materials would be a nightmare.

    • @Fuutoux
      @Fuutoux 4 роки тому +14

      @@Dumb-Comment Yeah, since their porverty condition, they cannot handle those bills. Sadly enough

    • @nullvoid564
      @nullvoid564 4 роки тому

      Geico spokesman: "we had no idea you guys were still around"
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GEICO_Cavemen

    • @lazarusblackwell6988
      @lazarusblackwell6988 4 роки тому +7

      They would be miserable every day

  • @Brahly
    @Brahly 3 роки тому +24

    The sad thing is this village would probably die out and would be forgotten unless someone comes across it again in the future.

    • @neurofiedyamato8763
      @neurofiedyamato8763 3 роки тому +3

      Honestly it doesn't look like it'll survive for long even without relocation given that their crops aren't growing, in poverty, lack of education, people moving to the big city and so on.

    • @sushitrash-dj9vq
      @sushitrash-dj9vq 3 роки тому +4

      @@neurofiedyamato8763 feel bad for those kids. Imagine them growing up like that without knowing the REAL world outside.

    • @cozy6308
      @cozy6308 3 роки тому +5

      @@sushitrash-dj9vq and yet some ungrateful brats on the comment section who thinks carrying heavy loads for 2 hours on a mountain is easy dont want them to leave cuz "their lifestyle is carefree and better than the city"

    • @shutup3039
      @shutup3039 3 роки тому

      No. The Chinese government will keep their eyes on this village to ensure they will not be overuled

  • @itsjiminsnonexistentjams1221
    @itsjiminsnonexistentjams1221 3 роки тому +11

    The culture behind this is so amazing, kinda like Amish people where they don’t wanna use today’s technology, appliances, money etc. kinda just live in their own world

  • @guochaoping
    @guochaoping 6 років тому +22

    3:14 that dish looks super tasty :O
    stir fried preserved meat with cauliflower

  • @XGenesis84
    @XGenesis84 4 роки тому +93

    Please don't disrupt their way of living. Mad respect. The city is filled with evil goons and corporations.

    • @Love-jf7rs
      @Love-jf7rs 3 роки тому +2

      The cave may be better than the houses-
      protects from typhoon storms and from tigers ! :)

  • @sayma9434
    @sayma9434 3 роки тому +22

    It's just beautiful. I mean look at those houses they're not that expansive or something but they still look too beautiful. And the nature's scenery.

  • @Fisherlam
    @Fisherlam 6 років тому +127

    I will go there to stay one night.

    • @dontcareordo3080
      @dontcareordo3080 6 років тому +2

      Fisher Lam Don't lie and like your own comment it's pathetic. (This was the wrong comment I meant to click on another one.)

    • @Fisherlam
      @Fisherlam 6 років тому +14

      For me, It is easy to go there. it is no need to lie. Meanwhile, I never like my own comments.

    • @Whitemountain8167
      @Whitemountain8167 5 років тому

      You are not welcome we don't t have fish 😛

  • @agnessmith8968
    @agnessmith8968 4 роки тому +6

    I want to live in this kind of community.. No pollution and its quite.. Simple living

    • @zmaj6524
      @zmaj6524 3 роки тому

      Grass is always greener on the other side.

  • @Aluttuh
    @Aluttuh 3 роки тому +1

    its communities like this that will restart humanity when all is lost

  • @wallec4140
    @wallec4140 4 роки тому +80

    Honestly, that rooster would drive me crazy! 😜

    • @Worldofourown2024
      @Worldofourown2024 4 роки тому +1

      I'd have to put the bird cage outside~!

    • @Jahalang82
      @Jahalang82 4 роки тому +3

      You get used to it really. Being from the city I actually found it comical to hear the rooster calling every morning when I'd be in rural Vietnam visiting the in laws.

    • @Connetification
      @Connetification 4 роки тому +6

      I used to live in a village. I love the rooster's sound. It's a sound for me to wake up and smell the fresh air. City life is worse compared to a village life. Yet, majority of people want to go live the city life even though it's much more stressful.

    • @petrhoward
      @petrhoward 3 роки тому +1

      I wouldnt want to be the guy keeping chickens there. I would have the Peacocks

    • @Jinars.
      @Jinars. 3 роки тому

      @Jamie idk tbh ngl fam

  • @MehboobAlam
    @MehboobAlam 6 років тому +240

    how they fart in the cave , with more echo

  • @nathbmayer2651
    @nathbmayer2651 3 роки тому +3

    The Cliffs and Caves update looks awesome

  • @noneofyourbusiness2253
    @noneofyourbusiness2253 5 років тому +11

    I like the sound. So cool rather than hearing the sounds of buses, jeepneys in the city.

  • @amoldivo
    @amoldivo 4 роки тому +28

    His accent is somehow sounds like Malaysian Chinese accent and surprisingly more understandable than other Chinese accents considering they're living in a remote place lol

    • @Kantoman
      @Kantoman 3 роки тому +3

      It's also because he is of miao/hmong tribe. Mixing accent and language can disrupt the tone. He is in fact speaking mandarin but still communicating in a miao/hmong stucture

  • @f.kimmich7069
    @f.kimmich7069 3 роки тому +6

    I saw this clip a few years ago and when we visited my sons grandparents in Guiyang we drove there. Unfortunately it is closed to public now (someone said the government doesn't like to advertise undevelopedness...). A nice women lat us through the gate though and we could hike there. They are really friendly and happy about tourist that will buy a meal. A native speaker is a must though and you can't sleep there any more...

  • @azlankhan39
    @azlankhan39 5 років тому +11

    It's beautiful and peaceful to live in mountains
    I would love to go there when get a chance. But would need Chinese language interpreter in rural area.

  • @Andrew-on5zy
    @Andrew-on5zy 3 роки тому +23

    I love chinese culture, some of it is so interesting and makes me want to visit.

    • @chupachups2236
      @chupachups2236 3 роки тому +2

      Watch “why do americans live in china” on asian boss’ channel (:

    • @hrvatskibricks7745
      @hrvatskibricks7745 3 роки тому +10

      Shame that mao destroyed most of it...

    • @dark_messiah8183
      @dark_messiah8183 3 роки тому +2

      @@hrvatskibricks7745 shame that you talk like an idiot

    • @samsan3095
      @samsan3095 3 роки тому +4

      @@hrvatskibricks7745 lol, poor China gave the West silk and gunpowder, and received back communism. This is the worst trade deal in history.

    • @unknownmasksw2serialirious580
      @unknownmasksw2serialirious580 3 роки тому

      It Miao ethic group people in china

  • @Tara_P_Rose
    @Tara_P_Rose 2 роки тому +1

    I don’t understand why they’re complaining about how hard it is for them since they had a chance to move but didn’t take it. He said in the city that it was too hot in the summer & too cold in the winter but at least there’s better access to food, jobs & schooling for his kids. Also he said he couldn’t get used to it, well that’s common in any moving situation especially if you’re moving from the quiet countryside, but eventually you get used to it, especially if it’s for the better.

  • @jess-ot9dt
    @jess-ot9dt 6 років тому +79

    I would actually love to live there, it's peaceful instead in the city. Leave them alone please.

    • @DaysPass
      @DaysPass 4 роки тому +2

      They wanted a better life

    • @drogadepc
      @drogadepc 4 роки тому +10

      They barely have any food to eat.

    • @Worldofourown2024
      @Worldofourown2024 4 роки тому +9

      The grass always looks greener on the other side.

    • @maki-roll5416
      @maki-roll5416 4 роки тому +6

      Watch the video again he said life is very hard in the cave

  • @margaretneanover3385
    @margaretneanover3385 4 роки тому +4

    Beautifully scenic. It's very impressive and peaceful. The serenity is wanted by many.

  • @mwj5368
    @mwj5368 3 роки тому +1

    I was with the Zapotec people in 1982 in south Mexico. They lived in adobe houses and no electricity or plumbing, but they I think were by far better off than in Mexico City. Nutrition wasn't all that great as they didn't grow vegetables, just corn and beans, but with a little help and not tons of chemical fertilizers they could have done great. I saw a video and it's depressing now to see a very big town there with sprawling growth. I still think the people at Zhongdong are better off in their amazing village close to nature and fresh air. The government could send medical aid and give them nutrition supplements and help them develop better agriculture that is not back-breaking labor and aid their building projects, let them live where they have grown.

    • @ayutonk2127
      @ayutonk2127 3 роки тому

      Agree. I just hate seeing governments of many developing countries often force villagers to move to the towns and force ethnic minorities to blend with the majority.

  • @MatthewMorgan25
    @MatthewMorgan25 6 років тому +60

    Looks like they live rich meaningful lives. Bringing the outside world - technology to them would be tragic. They don't need the crap we spend our daily lives dealing with.

    • @realdeal5712
      @realdeal5712 5 років тому +8

      Yeah meaningful like never have hope of know what using an iphone is like, no dream of travel around the world, dont know how far have the world developed, cant even find a doctor for simple illness, wake up and work everyday just to filled hunger dont even have time to enjoy life, they need to clean the cave and bring water and all the government job becuz they dont pay tax and have the system their....no goal, no dream, no proper education, no science, yeah very meaningful, its like live inside a rock.

    • @toast7659
      @toast7659 4 роки тому +1

      Real deal They are kinda living inside a rock- XD

  • @nothingshouldbewithouteffort
    @nothingshouldbewithouteffort 4 роки тому +6

    What a beautiful region.

  • @Babylon2060
    @Babylon2060 Рік тому +2

    A village inside of a cave, how fascinating! 😮

  • @atomictoaster3393
    @atomictoaster3393 5 років тому +15

    the echo from the chicken crow must be quite an alarm clock

  • @antman7673
    @antman7673 3 роки тому +5

    The ambient sounds are just marvelous

  • @fengfang9900
    @fengfang9900 3 роки тому +5

    Much Respect! ✊
    Leave them alone china government.

  • @alsetalokin88
    @alsetalokin88 5 років тому +4

    let them stay and live on. it is a cultural heritage to preserve.

  • @koalabear206
    @koalabear206 5 років тому +8

    On the upside, they have one of best air quality in China

  • @TatsumiOga682
    @TatsumiOga682 3 роки тому +5

    That place looks and sounds surreal, like the constant echoes of chirps and other sounds are so relaxing.

  • @mrlohdtwoasianrok6631
    @mrlohdtwoasianrok6631 4 роки тому +54

    Everybody gangsta until they hear Cave sounds.

  • @yeusean
    @yeusean 6 років тому +44

    Cool weather all year round. Nice.

  • @nuzjunkie1
    @nuzjunkie1 2 роки тому +1

    Wow, so cool that you are sharing this beautiful place with the world, thank you!

  • @misterpogi2682
    @misterpogi2682 5 років тому +5

    Watching now.. june 20,2019..
    Your place is a heaven..
    -from philippines.. :)

  • @jayjaynezmerize6774
    @jayjaynezmerize6774 5 років тому +31

    I'd live there in a heartbeat! Could you imagine what a wailin' Rhythm & Soul harmonica would sound like amplified through that Cavernous natural monument? I can. Woah!

    • @israellalchhanchhuaha847
      @israellalchhanchhuaha847 4 роки тому +20

      I think you are just trying to live the moment and your fantasy.. ..not thinking about the cold reality✌✌

    • @roni5326
      @roni5326 3 роки тому

      @@israellalchhanchhuaha847 fr

  • @k9adventures340
    @k9adventures340 3 роки тому +1

    Let them live there in peace...in my eyes they are living a life of true happiness and peace, not having to be in a hurry like the rest of the world.

  • @Janedoe19902
    @Janedoe19902 5 років тому +8

    this is the most unusual village i ever seen...if they ask me to come here and stay for months sure will...the sound of the mother nature bring harmony to my soul

  • @boscotouthang8479
    @boscotouthang8479 6 років тому +27

    Better than many village's of India

  • @johnstauffer4362
    @johnstauffer4362 Рік тому +1

    A hard but wonderful life - if the people wish to stay let them. The countryside looks absolutely fabulous and the bird song is just wonderful things we have lost in our urbanised way of life. I would really like to get to China and visit these wonderful amazing people.

  • @LucyKosaki
    @LucyKosaki 3 роки тому +18

    Even though they are so poor, their food looks really delicious and nutritious, I would totally stay there for a few days and leave some money

  • @Kingofthenorf420
    @Kingofthenorf420 3 роки тому +7

    Wow, to see that kind of living in a day like today is crazy.

    • @GabrielCarvv
      @GabrielCarvv 3 роки тому

      @Jamie I know, right! Despite the cities, a whole lot of people live like this around the world.

  • @nessa149
    @nessa149 3 роки тому +1

    An update after COVID-19 is appreciated.

  • @linnea11
    @linnea11 6 років тому +171

    I would like to help them advertise and get some tourist coming there. I'll try to go there soon

    • @Echiomega
      @Echiomega 6 років тому +14

      yea i think people visiting just to stay a day or two will bring more money in than farming.

    • @crafael.
      @crafael. 6 років тому +12

      Me too. Already screenshot the homestay number..😊

    • @matthewmontalvo6795
      @matthewmontalvo6795 6 років тому +3

      neafluffpandie I'll go with you. I don't speak Chinese though

    • @humansrtrash324
      @humansrtrash324 6 років тому +1

      Yes please do so

    • @sthembisomthembu395
      @sthembisomthembu395 4 роки тому +2

      Come on ppl. I don't think they need any tourist over there. They just need peace. How would you feel if i bring tourist in your house???

  • @magpiesneedle2575
    @magpiesneedle2575 4 роки тому +12

    “The Chinese government has pledged to eliminate poverty by 2020”. It’s now 2020...hope...

    • @kimtan1278
      @kimtan1278 4 роки тому +8

      There is nothing that the Government can do if the villagers refuse to relocate . So , how do you expect the Govt. to eradicate poverty by 2020. Do you think any western government can do any better ??

    • @_A_Ong
      @_A_Ong 4 роки тому +1

      @@kimtan1278 especially the U.S.

    • @huiqiuchuang7012
      @huiqiuchuang7012 4 роки тому +1

      @@_A_Ong are you kidding me?

    • @_A_Ong
      @_A_Ong 4 роки тому +1

      @@huiqiuchuang7012 It was not a Joke to me, so, I am not kidding.

    • @jeannice3475
      @jeannice3475 3 роки тому

      At least the Chinese government tries, at the contrary of à lot of others countries.

  • @chun_lisfii3596
    @chun_lisfii3596 3 роки тому +1

    They live here better than any city.

  • @Hillers62
    @Hillers62 4 роки тому +4

    If you are happy where you live, then stay there...this looks like a pretty cool and quiet place.

  • @iBurnedaHouse
    @iBurnedaHouse 6 років тому +14

    What a beautiful village! I'm sure there's a way to preserve the culture without destroying it?

  • @jedahn
    @jedahn 3 роки тому +2

    Absolutely fascinating!

  • @yauker
    @yauker 3 роки тому +33

    Moral of the story: Never let the government take your ability to provide and live the way nature intended, or they'll never give it back.

    • @thepowerlies
      @thepowerlies 3 роки тому

      That would be true if they made everything they use themselves but it doesn't look like it

    • @Thisisahandle701
      @Thisisahandle701 3 роки тому +2

      Not much of a choice in China.

  • @LinuxUsersonly
    @LinuxUsersonly 4 роки тому +6

    China is an amazing beautiful place I’ll visit one day ☺️

  • @vincechan455
    @vincechan455 3 роки тому +1

    In China, they are known as Miao. In Vietnam, Laos, Mynamar, Thailand, here in the United States, and elsewhere we are called Hmong. I would like our brethren in China to know that we are professors, lawyers, doctors, engineers, and even Olympic gold medal champions like Sunisa Lee. When people around the world play slot machines in casinos, they might even be playing on machines that use my brother's patents. One of my sisters graduated from Harvard University. Although we come from modest roots and although there are those that may look down upon us, keep your heads held high. We are Hmong. We are Miao. We can achieve what others did not believe was even possible.

  • @monnetjoline6534
    @monnetjoline6534 3 роки тому +16

    The sad part is, that cave and that village is culture and history. The fact that they won't build a road and want to force everyone out of the cave and into homes they don't want is disgusting and a blatant offense toward the power that culture has on the entire world. Getting rid of them would only cover up that part of history and leave it forgotten.

    • @GabrielCarvv
      @GabrielCarvv 3 роки тому +1

      The officials don't think very ethically, as we can see.

  • @malootua2739
    @malootua2739 3 роки тому +15

    "Development" is an illusion - live like you always have

    • @bohu1701
      @bohu1701 3 роки тому

      then you would be still living on trees

    • @malootua2739
      @malootua2739 3 роки тому

      @@bohu1701 Is there something wrong with trees? Or with nature? You think It's better to live in a concrete jungle than in nature?

    • @bohu1701
      @bohu1701 3 роки тому

      @@malootua2739 then why are you using a smartphone? smash it and go back to real jungle.

    • @malootua2739
      @malootua2739 3 роки тому

      @@bohu1701 I live in the South Pacific in a hut

    • @bohu1701
      @bohu1701 3 роки тому

      @@malootua2739 cool~!!!!
      then why are you not watching ocean but youtube.

  • @charlessmith3779
    @charlessmith3779 3 роки тому

    They look very peaceful and content. Way life should be.

  • @pureplay7071
    @pureplay7071 3 роки тому +10

    I've seen rented accommodation ALOT worse than that.

  • @TerraVictor1000
    @TerraVictor1000 3 роки тому +13

    Cave people? Nahh, my teen brother haven't seen light for a month, and that's a true cave people

  • @ovniquebecastronomie595
    @ovniquebecastronomie595 3 роки тому +1

    2021...people still in poverty...

  • @jb9192
    @jb9192 5 років тому +8

    Imagine hearing your neighbors doing it as they echo through the whole cave. Lol