Thank you to everyone for sharing your feedback. There are a couple points and alternatives we will cover in our upcomimg videos this year: Please remember that these predatory attacks are extremely rare, and that you cannot always prevent them by following proper procedures to keep your camp safe. This is because the people before you may have failed to follow these procedures, which is often the case with these types of bear attacks. Bringing your dog can also lead to more harm than good. There are also some other options to secruing your campsite, because some ecosystems are very fragile and piling dead timber around your tent may not always be the best method available. We will share these additional techniques with you soon. We want everyone to stay safe and mindful of their wilderness surroundings, it is our goal to keep everyone informed on this topic.
I agree. Bear maulings are pretty common. We often joke that it is not "officially" Spring in Alaska until there has been at least one bear mauling and/or moose stomping. There was one year in the mid-1990s in Anchorage where the wildlife (bear & moose combined) killed more people than people killed people that year. Anchorage is one of those northwestern cities that is full of greenbelts and bicycle trials. The problem is that you cannot be paying close attention to your surroundings if you are riding a bicycle. A bicyclist riding by a bear will instantly trigger the bear's chase instinct. They are literally asking to be mauled. Or biking between a moose cow and her calf is a great way to get yourself stomped. And it isn't just Spring when people need to be observant. People's pets are taken during the Winter months by wolves who prowl those city greenbelts looking for food. This is what it means to live in Alaska.
You want a watch dog with a hair trigger ON A LEASH. He will warn you a bear is around long before any other warning method. The watch dog must not be allowed off the leash. Thats how dogs end up luring a bear back to its owner.
I think some of the folks below may have missed the term "predatory". There is a difference between predatory and defensive attacks. Sometimes it's hard to say which it was, simply because the young or the food cache that was being defended isn't visible. You are correct, though- predatory attacks are very rare. One thing I disagree with, though, is bringing a dog. As long as your dog is always secured, he'll be able to warn you of anything nearby. Besides that, a bear approaching (not out of defense, only curiosity) will often run away from a dog. Just don't let the pup run free.
A better idea is to actually learn how to camp in bear country. Your camp site should consist of three areas set up in a triangle, each at least 50 meters/yards apart. In the first area you set up your tent and sleeping area. Absolutely no food is to be stored or brought into this area. In the second area you have your cooking and eating area. The last area is where you store the food you are not eating. Your food should be hung a minimum of 5 meters/yards above the ground between two trees that are at least 10 meters/yards apart. Remember to keep all food away from the sleeping area, that is critical. Clean up immediately after cooking, keep your dishes and cookware in the cooking area, maintain a clean camp, and you should not have any problems with bears or any other critters looking for a free meal. I have always carried both a shotgun loaded with slugs and a back-up large caliber revolver, but in the 25 years I have lived in Alaska I have never had the need to defend myself. I truly hope it stays that way, but I will continue to be armed for bear ... just in case. Bears are naturally very curious critters. They have terrible eye-sight, unable to see anything clearly beyond a few dozen meters/yards, but they have an excellent sense of smell. As long as you do not give them a reason to investigate your sleeping area, they will confine themselves to your cooking area and where your food is hung. Some may think this is advice is "old fashion" or "out of date," but it works. I've been camping in bear country since the 1970s using this camping method and while I have had numerous encounters with bears, none of them ever posed a problem. The key is to be observant. The overwhelming majority of bear maulings are the result of people not paying attention to their surroundings.
Even with proper camping techniques bears sometimes wander straight to tents.. all it takes is a crumb or even a little stain on your clothes.. so many variables even the most vigilant of campers have the possibility of a bear strolling in. So it's always nice to have a contingency plan. I line my camp with string and bells. It lets me know if any large animals are to close to my tent.
Everything you said is perfectly true of course. I also bring my dogs along whenever I hike or camp in Alaska's bush. They have far better senses than I and will alert to possible danger before I become aware, so I keep a close eye on them. Even with all the precautions I mentioned above I have had bears come into my camp at night, even with my dogs sleeping next to me. When hiking or camping in bear country it is a good time to remember that humans are only on top of the food chain because of the tools we are able to fashion. All one can do is reduce the risk as much as possible, but the danger is always there. Hence the reason for being armed specifically for bear self-defense. It is always better to have the means to defend one's self and not need it, than to need it and not have the means.
Just so I can understand you correctly. 3 zones each 50 meters from the next. Zone one is a 50 meter or 150 foot radius from your tent, zone two is another 50 meters our or 300 feet from your tent and the third is another 50 meters or 450 feet from your tent? Thats a huge camping area and may not be exactly practical. I understand you are trying to give people advice, however..... this sounds way off to me.
That is not even remotely what I said. I stated: "Your camp site should consist of three areas set up in a triangle, each at least 50 meters/yards apart. " The first area is no more than 50 meters from the second and third areas. The second area is no more than 50 meters from the first and third areas. The third area is no more than 50 meters from the first and second areas. So that you are occupying a triangular area with approximately 50 meters on each side. If you want to camp out in one of those tiny rental camp zones and become bear-bait, be my guest. We get your kind every year in Alaska.
I like the outdoors. Only last week I walked through a city park. Exhausted, I spent the night in a 5 star hotel. There were plants in the hallway and more in my room. I hung my summer sausage and cheese from the ceiling to discourage any predators. It was a surprisingly cool night, so I turned off the air conditioner. What an amazing feeling having to rely on my instincts to survive! I’ll be doing this again.
I don't think there's a holiday inn in the deep woods where I hike if there was it wouldn't be much of a camping/hiking trip ,but I agree it would be safer and more comfortable
i would NEVER try to kill myself with such a weak gun! .44 mag at least! 12 gauge better... u might lie bleeding for hours until u die with a hole in your head from a .38... overkill is always best when killing yourself or others ;) GETrDONE right!
There are also motion detectors that trigger a 120db alarm that were shown to be effective at scaring bears off as well as alerting people that something is outside and which direction it is in.
As a bear I approve of this message. We came up with the idea for the attacks while eating fermented apples out of a trash can and I guess one thing just kinda lead to another. We were high but still - I admit there was a kind of coordinated and premeditated aspect to the whole thing. I guess it had been brewing throughout June, mainly due to a dare that someone voiced some time back in May prolly. We laughed it off at first, but somehow the idea seemed to stick, and wouldn't go away and it just became like this pushy thing between us. I suppose we all sensed it was building towards some unfortunate climax, but it was like we couldn't stop the ball rolling, once the idea was out. To be honest, maybe we didn't really want to stop, but I conceed it all got maybe a bit out of hand. It was like we were all subconsciously waiting for mom and dad to step in and put an end to all the ruckus, but they never showed. Looking back, I don't think we should have eaten our parents during winter either, but they'd grown kind of old and weak like they were kinda asking for it, you know? Plus - I don't think anyone can deny they'd been about roughly the same kind of business at one time or another back in the day. Anyway - here were are and things can't be remedied, and I just wanted to put that out there. I am not making any promises. I am a bear for fucks sake. No you build yourself some barriers - it's true we get a little stupid in the dark. Don't know what that's all about, but there you go. You do your thing and we'll be bears about it.
Sleep a fair distance from where you cook and eat. Hang all of your "smellables" away from where you sleep. Have nothing in your sleeping area but your sleeping gear. Use your head, don't provoke critters, and have a good time. I have 42 years of backcountry experience 0 (zero) bear issues.
Trigger Snob Agree. Also, don’t forget that “smellables” include things we don’t associate with being edible. Toothpaste, scented soap, etc. Bears are attracted to unusual smells and they will curiously check them out. So keep highly scented items with your food stash.
I hang my food but a funny memory was the time I couldn't get it down due to a snag of a limb,glad no one saw me swatting my food bag with a big stick....I needed that blasted coffee,lol.
Good advice. However, when a bear is biting through a tent and grabbing a person, he wasn't there for anything else. That bear wasn't guessing at what he was getting. You smell like meat and that is all he needed to know. When you're snug as a bug in your sleeping bag the bear is thinking TACOS!
You do have some good tips, but the most important is to not give the bear a reason to be in your camp. You did speak of not eating in the tent, even camp, but your backpack and stove is right in front of your tent. Food smell enters fibers and held for a long time which was your point to the tent. The bowl/stove/backpack will also hold odors. Beyond food in your pack, you also have other smelling things like toothpaste, potentially candy, soap, deodorant, etc. All will attract a bear. Either way, the highest majorities of camping related encounters occur when food or garbage was present. Keeping a clean camp all but eliminates this. Keep them both away from camp and high in a tree. If you have a vehicle, they all should go inside. Cook away from camp. But if you are afraid of bears so much you resort to electric fences, or searching hours for a branch barricade, maybe you should choose another hobby, or educate yourself on bear behavior so you can better adapt, and equally as important lose the irrational fear of bears. The reality is this is beyond rare. Also, when I hear someone quoting a statistic that clearly is abnormal, but also appears to be very specific, it makes me think there is some agenda since it tends to manipulate reality. You say there were two deaths in July 2017 which is true, but the reality is there were two deaths for the entire year in the US. This equals the average per year in the US. To continue using 2017 as the reference, 65 people were killed by dogs with 645 disfigured. 16 deaths in 2017 came from lightning. Deer over 100. Horses, cow, mosquitoes, rats, all of these account for far more deaths than bears. That is not to say you should not plan ahead and as I said, have a clean camp and be ready, but building structures to keep these animals out is ludicrous.
Oh !? Is that why I have seen the disguised "Bacon" scent body powder for sale, in the camping section of the men's rights internet sites ? Its the cost of 1 hour attorney time, but like you stated, its a lot cheaper. Snark, snark.
Most likely lizard people/ posing as a Bear? F- that bear sheet/ Yup / a 38/ 12 gauge / will take that f-ing Predator out/ better be prepared/ or your going down!! Good times.. Christ Saves!!
You have to memorize your plan, where in the tent you keep everything, clockwise, let me tell you, I was reading in my tent, in a campground with my kids sleeping next to me, five and six, just me and my kids. when I hear the crunch of a bear walking up to my tent, you could hear his weight in his steps, his deep growl, sniffing and leaning on my tent right next to my head, I Kidd you not, the fear is nothing like I have ever experienced before or since, my husband was away working so I had decided to take my kids camping, there had never been bears around that area, but because of fires the bears moved down, my food was in a cooler in the trunk of my car, but my neighbours had food in their trailer, which was a distance from me. once it left my campsite it moved on to my neighbours, the bear started banging around their trailer, I threw my kids in my car and drove into town, the next day, I went to retrieve my belongings, and on the side of my tent the bear had put claw marks on my tent, and now, I only will camp in a trailer, with a couple of guns, bear spray and my husband and will be forever terrified of bears........
That is much closer than I would have cared for. I can certainly understand your fear, and I am glad everything turned out okay for you and your children. Thankfully your food was not stored in your tent. This is why I will never use one of those rental campsites in bear country. They are too confined. Despite what some may claim, I am of the mind that you should always be armed sufficiently to protect yourself from whatever may threaten you. In this case bear. The best overall bear defense is either a 0.4 caliber or larger rifle, or a 12-guage shotgun loaded with .65 caliber slugs. This becomes your "camp gun." Since you will not be carrying your camp gun everywhere while you are at camp, a back-up .4 caliber or larger revolver or pistol should be worn at all times. Not every bear encounter will be as fearful as the one you described. I have had many bear encounters in the 26 years I have lived in Alaska, and I never felt threatened by any of them. I will continue to be armed while in bear country, and I will continue to camp in the manner I described above and I will continue to be observant. Hopefully by paying close attention to my surroundings I can spare a bear its life. The very last thing I want to do is to shoot a bear in self-defense knowing that I could have prevented it. I also bring a zip-lock baggie that contains a few ladyfinger firecrackers when I go camping. Bears are very curious critters, and will occasionally stumble into your campground following their nose. If shouting at them is not enough to get them out of your camp site, then a firecracker or two in their vicinity is usually enough to scare them off. You will have to assess each situation yourself to determine the seriousness of the threat and decide what means to use to keep yourself and your family safe. I am glad that the encounter you had did not put you off camping altogether.
keithrobyn keepness, you sure that "deep growl, sniffing and leaning on my tent right next to my head" wasn't a drunken neighbor wandering around lost that night?
10,874 people were killed by drunk drivers in 2017, that one person killed every 48 minutes. So, how are you gonna protect yourself and family from those drivers…find a new hobby? Carry a gun? Bear spray? Sheesh, you have a thousand times more chances of being killed by your own neighbors than being killed by a bear. If you’re frightened by the possibility of a bear attack, please, STAY OUT OF THE WOODS!!!
I do alot of camping in the Olympic Mntn. range, and what I use seems to work: I take a grenade launcher, and Claymore mines as protection. Yeah sure, the aftermath isn't pretty, but good security is worth it.
My parents took me and my younger brother camping many years ago in Oregon. We tried to get into a popular campground around Wallowa Lake, but it was full. So we were told about another small campground miles back into the national forest. So when we got to the other campground we were the only ones there. My brother and I decided to sleep in the tent and my parents were going to sleep in the back of my dad chevy pickup that had a canopy on top it. Well my dad for some reason thought he had put the cooler away in the truck but he accidentally left the cooler out next to the picnic table which was just a few feet from the tent where my brother and I were going to be sleeping. My brother and I had no idea that the cooler was left out. We all went to bed after dinner. Several hours later I woke up to some grunting noises outside of our tent. My brother was sound asleep. I just froze. I very quietly shook my brother and whispered to him that I think there is a bear outside. We both didnt move a muscle. We could still hear the bear grunting and getting into something. Well thank goodness my dad heard the bear from inside the truck and he knew what was out there. He pushed the alarm on his key fob and the alarm went off. That alarm did the trick and scared the bear off. We waited a few minutes and then my brother and I quietly unzipped our tent and with our flashlight looked around to see if the bear was gone. It was. He and I both ran to my dad truck and got in the back. My dad said that he saw a bear with its teeth embedded in the lid of our cooler and was thrashing it around. My parents were also very scared. We still have that cooler with the bear's teeth marks on the lid. After that experience I no longer enjoy camping and I refuse to sleep in a tent in secluded campgrounds and I will not camp in the back country, and I will no longer go into the mountains.
Me too...but I'm jealous because I live in Canada very close to bear country. A few bears have come right into my father in laws yard a few times. I get freaked out when I visit just getting out of the car to go inside the house. I'd love to live where there's no bears!
Everyone wonders why Americans love guns until they realize there's only a handful of cities and most of America's 9.8 million square kilometers are rural and in the rural areas most places have bears, mountain lions, coyote, bobcat and boar (more vicious than you think)
I never encountered a bear while tent camping. A friend however did, while camping north of Yellowstone, he was spared though but never went camping again. Until he saw my RV rental. It's camping enough for me to sleep well at night. He on the other hand had nightmares for a very long time and was put on meds for a while. Even when he came with us; every little natural sound would cause him to react. Motion lights outside seem to not make him feel even a little more secure. Needless to say he never went camping again and never went hiking with me again either. I can't imagine what he was feeling, but only those who have gone through an encounter do. By the size of the prints it was a grizzly. He knew pepper spray would be useless if a bear would pounce on his tent so he also had a hand held air horn can of compressed air type while he slept. He believes the air horn saved his life.
Lot’s of great advice on keeping safe in the comments below. What I do is make sure I stay safe from bear attacks by living in a country which doesn’t have wild bears. This technique has worked flawlessly for me for over 40 years and god willing will continue to do so. I make sure I stay alert and vigilant at all times while out walking the countryside of the United Kingdom.
The smell of FOOD is the biggest attraction. Bears live only to eat. I learned this the hard way yesterday as we were at a day-camping area (picnic tables/fire pit). We setup our mini tailgating BBQ on the picnic table and enjoyed some of the best burgers ever...well... about 1/2 hour later... the smell of those burgers must have lured in a black bear that was sneaking up on us...it was so quiet we did not even hear a single twig snap as it got within 25-30 feet of our 5-person group. I was very aware we were in bear country and HAD my bear spray in it's holster on my hip and was keeping watch. Luckily my wife saw it first and all of us were able to safely retreat inside the van. This bear must be a regular at that camp site and accustomed to people since no amount of noise we made seemed to scared it off. It took it's sweet time slowly retreating. I learned a very big lesson. Never again will I BBQ in bear country. From now on it's cold sandwiches or snacks kept in ziplock bags and NEVER will we spread out a burger feast on a picnic table with all the "fixins" as I could have been the main course and my granddaughter the fixins. Very scary to see how BOLD that bear was! NEVER let your guard down people! That was one sneaky bear we were being stalked by! But looking back...it was our own fault for having a yummy BBQ in a campground in bear country. Lesson learned. Trust me, these animals KNOW how to be quiet when stalking.
I spent a period of a few years in SE Asia where they have wild elephants. There are warning signs for autos and motorcycles at entrances to National Parks. It was frightening riding my motorcycles through those areas. They say if on a motorcycle try and get a car between you and the elephant. Do not stop if you encounter one on the road keep driving. Do not stare or look them in the eye. The sound of the motorcycles can piss them off if they're agitated. I encountered an 'old one' once. I rode 20' from it and hoped I didn't set it off. It was a humbling experience and I was thankful it let me pass. There are UA-cam videos of rampaging elephants. The damage they do make bears look like puppies in comparison.
The brush "fence" is a favorite of mine - A must do. In addition to doing that, I used to carry twine and several small dog collar bells which I would use to string up an outer perimeter, around the outside of the brush fence. Get the mini cow bell type which can be "snuffed" by stuffing them with a piece of paper towel, so they don't make noise in your pack. This is good if you're hunting. If it's windy, the bells have to be laid on something or you'll get false alarms all night long. As long as they're connected to the string, they'll ring out if a bear walks into/pulls on that. Pee on the approaches to your camp, well away from your tent. Bring no scented hygiene products of any kind. Build a fire, dispose of all your cooking wastes in the flames, spit your toothbrush wastes into the flames too. Take smoke baths. Let your fire burn down to coals before going to bed, then tightly stack logs on top of the coals, to create a slow burn that flares up, dies down and crackles a little, all night long. With that going, sleep with one eye and both ears open. Make small "wreaths" of spruce or pine boughs, twisted up with handfuls of dry grass. If you hear something in the dark, you can quietly unzip enough to get your hand out of your tent and toss one of those on your low burning fire. The "wreath" will flare up hot and bright, lighting up the area. Then you can roll out of your tent with your weapon up. Don't look at the fire. You can also carry small packs of fire crackers. Tossing one of those into the fire will usually send your "bump in the night" crashing through the trees. I've also found sparklers to be handy things. Take two of them and fix them to one end of a stick that makes a suitable "spear". Keep it dry. When something is moving around in the dark, you can take your sparkle spear, stick the sparkler end into the coals of your fire and arc your spear out in the direction of the noise, intending to stick the spear into the ground out there so it stands with the burning sparklers straight up. That lights up the woods like you wouldn't believe and it burns for a few seconds too. *DO NOT DO THAT IF YOU MIGHT SET THE WOODS ON FIRE! (Where I'm from, fire isn't a problem.) If you do nothing else - Bring enough gun. Best regards, A Kodiak Island Native
My parents were camping in Red lodge Montana in a tow camp trailer. The trailer was fairly large, about 6’ High by 7’ wide by 10’ long. Anyhow,... my dad was about 20-30 feet from the trailer getting some gear from his truck when a Grizzly Bear came charging from the woods he ran full speed to the trailer and literally just made it inside and slammed the door when the bear hit the trailer! The bear was standing on it’s hind legs and was pushing on the trailer trying to tip it over and get inside. My mother was already inside. My parents screamed at the bear to go away and screamed for help! Eventually it did leave. But their camper was all clawed up and the door was partially smashed in. Their camper was a fairly tough camper NOT A POP UP style. My Dad said: the sound the bear made was terrifying to say the least. He did have a 12 gauge shotgun in the camper but didn’t fire it because the bear left just in Time. The point is , even though the “stick and branch” idea is a good one and might buy you a few seconds,... if a Grizzly wants to kill you, well, you’re probably gonna meet your maker. People grossly underestimate just how strong & Fast Grizzly bears are. A night time surprise attack when you are sleeping is a recipe for disaster! A big loud Dog or two would also help but a 454 Casull round is a must have.
Cody Johnston Yep, bears live in the woods. Some sticks do not stop them from going where they want to. I recommend living somewhere that doesn't have bears.
Jerry Krause I believe it's not meant to stop a determined bear, unless it's a really strong barricade, but to make a noise before it reaches your tent, so to give you a few precious seconds. Yet people in Africa surround their villages with a high fence of thorny bushes to defend from lions, and it works.
Dogs are the most VALIANT animals..for thousand of years dog being used to hunt..elefant.tiger.bull.lions and HUMANS..you can see 2 o 3 smalls dogs cirnering a 600 pound tiger..my one year german shepperd WAYEE..putt away a bear and follow him for almost a mile..you cannot negotiated whith a barking dog..senses hearing and smell too..for me dog is a must..beside weapons
I only have a new modle blackhawk with 300gr bear loads from bitteroot ammo. It's better then nothing and doesn't smash my little old wrist. Hope it does the trick.I only have 6 in it.
I found, by accident, that laying tarps around your tent works to scare bears off, just like green horses, the noise scares them when they step on the tarp.
They make portable battery operated electric fences to contain livestock, the game dept in many areas use them to keep bears out of feed at game feeding areas. Gallagher makes a good one, they will keep bears out of camp. Just pack some wire and insulators and a way to ground it. They hurt bad when you run into the wire.
Tom Hickman, our Foster Gulch channel has a video on the bear electric fences: ua-cam.com/video/po0T7JvhKM4/v-deo.html The NOLS allowed the use of their footage where the fence was tested with live bears. Click that link to watch.
So many places to go where dangerous animals do not exist. I just hiked three days through Ras Al Khaimah in the UAE. Here there is only shy, curious, peaceful goats that will take a look and then quiickly scamper away. As a solo hiker it was always a nice surprise to see one along the way or to hear them calling to each other in the distance. It really added to the experience.
2 MAJOR flaws w this vid. Gun WAY TOO SMALL, and 2nd, Black bears are WAY more dangerous than griz. Blackies see humans as food & are ambush hunters, hit u from behind if possible. Grizzlies not so much unless provoked or old/very young/stupid or wounded. As for the weapon. Bears flesh is incredably dense & eats bullets energy quickly. A MINIMUM in the lower 48 would be a 357 mag w WFN HARD CAST pumped up rounds. PREFFERABLY a 44 mag or better. Buffalo Bore makes excellent HOT WFN bear punchers. Bear spray will NOT stop a sow w cubs (normally) just pisses her off more. Having a DOG along is a 2 sided coin. They will definately let you know if a bears around, downside, will come running back to you when being bear chased bringing the pissed bear w them. Wear bells when in bear country too. Bears sences are 1000 times more acute than a?humans & THEY know your around WAY before you know theyre around & will usually be more than happy to move their cubs away from you long before u see them. I lived AK bush 27 years. Worked w the best bear experts in the world. DIDNT even go to the outhouse w/o a bear gun. SEEN & HEARD it all. Only a fool goes into the wilds w/o a GUN!!
Dave, I see your point about "black bears are WAY more dangerous than brown/grizzly", but it is not entirely true. Browns/grizzlies are much more aggressive. They react differently to threats, and browns/grizzlies often will act aggressively to deal with the threat. Black bears on the other hand are far more timid and will often flee rather than attack. So, encountering one or the other in close proximity in an example such as with cubs, or startling it, the brown/grizzly is far more dangerous. It is true that the majority of brown/grizzly (grizzly from now on) attacks are resulting from startling the bear, or threatening it/cache/cubs, etc. It is also true that black bears have attacked more people than grizzlies, but the reason for that is merely numbers. There are far more black bears in the US than grizzlies, with both a larger range and closer to human development. So, there are far more interactions with black bears than with grizzlies.
As for "blackies seeing humans as food", this is just untrue as it is with any other predator. Humans are not a normal part of their menu, but instead treated as a threat, so all bears will avoid humans in most situations. Most problems come from habituation and food conditioning, meaning they are accustomed to seeing people and associate them with food. That is not to say humans are food, but instead, where there is a human, there will be food be it scraps, trash, etc. This habituation accounts for the lions share of bear attacks from grizzlies or blacks. You are correct though that black bears (grizzlies too) can act in a predatory manner when it comes to humans. These account for the lowest percentage in attacks, but yes, the highest percentage in fatalities. Getting back to black, it is why you need to take action and scare a black bear whenever they appear to get too close to you and are unafraid, especially following you. The longer you allow him to follow, the more dangerous it becomes for you. This brings us back to your point that most often any bear will leave the area once it is aware of your presence and often before you knew they were there. All bear attacks are rare, and frankly if you (not you) are going to build a bear fences, or use electrical fences, you probably should find a new hobby as you have an irrational fear of bears and it is impacting your ability to enjoy the outdoors. As for bear spray "not stopping a sow with cubs", or any bear, that is just false. There are many studies and statistics showing it does work. But yes, there are many instances where bear spray has failed. It comes down to the circumstance and how you use it. Spraying it on a tent before going to sleep (yes it was done) did not prevent an attack, nor did other circumstances where the bear was too far, too close or missed it completely. But if used properly, it can and has prevented bear attacks. To work, it has to hit the bear directly in the face as so it can attack the eyes, nose and lungs of the animal. If the animal still hits you or timing was late, all bets are off. I will also say that firearms have failed numerous times. While we all like to think we are proficient with a firearm, I assure you that once you are in a life and death situation, that comes and ends in a matter of seconds if that, there is much room for error. Can you even get it out in time? If so, can you hit it in the vitals? Even "if" you hit it in the vitals, will it stop the attack in time? There are so many variables not to mention type of attack. So, while I certainly will choose a firearm anytime over bear spray, there are some who don't have firearms, may not be proficient in firearms, etc. For them, or in areas you are not allowed to have a firearm, then bear spray is best and certainly better than nothing. But the reality is, the best way to prevent an attack is to ensure you never have to. Knowing bear behavior and knowing what to do during the multitude of scenarios you may have with a bear is key. In that regard, most attacks could have been avoided with good decision making. As for camp, just keep a clean camp, period. No need for wasting a couple hours building a structure around your tent, that you could be fined for anyway. Certainly save the space and loss of a man card for an electrical fence. Just use your brain, don't cook in or near your tent, keep all things smelly out of or away from the tent, and you will likely never have an issue. I mean, you have a greater chance of being hit by lightening than getting killed by a bear.
If, if, if. That's life pal. Probably don't hesitate to drive on a highway where you are about 100 times more likely to be killed than hanging out in the woods with bears, am I right?
See in Canada we aren't allowed handguns for wildlife defense. But we sre allowed everything else. So rifles and semi autos etc. I'd either use my backpacking shotgun or my 338 win mag or my 375 H&H for wildlife defense depending if im hunting already or if im just camping. If im just camping probably just my backpacking shotgun. Load the first shot with 000 Buckshot followed by nothing but slugs. We are allowed firearms for wildlife defense on crown land which is the majority of land. If it was my 338 or 375 H&H I'd be using 250 to 300 grainers.
When a bear tries to eat you and is unsuccessful, it's called a "Bear Attack". If it's successful, it's called a "Missing Person". There's a whole bunch of missing people.
Lol the missing persons are people falling into ravines, into rivers or lakes and other similar but equally preventable situations. Rarely is it a predatory animal.
My wife and I camped at Mesa Verde - 8k high and rangers return to town at night. Last summer they had bears entering camp sites and posted signs for mountain lions. We didn’t need it for the nights we camped but what I had was bear spray plus a Boat horn Which is load as hell and scared the krap out of our neighbors so I was hoping it’d do the same with a bear. Seemed like a decent idea and you can buy the small canister ones that are about 4” big. Also didn’t cook there nor brushed our teeth etc. One thing we learned at that height - the campers closet to us were drinking pretty good. About 2 am one of the wives started crying and screamed to get her down the hill. Turns out at that height 1 drink reacts like 2 so you can very easily get extremely drunk quick. They drove her back down the 8K winding steep road in pitch black Didn’t sound like fun especially since they were all drunk
A lot of people responding must be very light sleepers. You can have your gun and bear spray but if you go to sleep and that bear really wants to get you it'll be through that stick bear-a-cade and on you before you have much of a chance. Seems like it'd be smarter not to sleep outside in an area where bears are known to live. I mean, you wouldn't go to Florida and sleep in the Everglades with all those alligators, would you? Common sense can keep you alive.
To sum it up: a minimum of a .44 caliber. What do you recommend for people visiting your back country but not coming from a country where fire arms and mace are legal weapons?
Some West Virginia boy scouts were camping in Philmont in New Mexico and a bear came within 5 yards from their campsite. The bear left and they were not harmed because they knew that if they would've got up to leave the bear would've attacked. Bears see that as a threat. That's just one way of surviving.
I remember an article in readers digest where a woman was shooting a charging grizzly with a 30-06.4 shots bounced off its skull.The last shot went in the nasal cavity ito the brain.That was one brave lady.
How far away did it start the charge for her to get off 5 shots? Think about this, consider the speed a bear runs and hitting a running bounding target while probably rattled. The article had to be very fictional. Normal 30-06 deer loads will scramble his egg
I have spent a lot of time camping in the Alberta and British Columbia wilderness. Something that I learned a long time ago is to urinate at multiple places, several yards out from my tent, to mark a circle around my tent. I have seen bears come up to the spots and turn off to the side or reverse their course. It is marking my territory in a way that they understand. I would not recommend a woman doing this while she is having her period, nor would I even recommend a woman camping in bear country while she is at her time of month.
People underestimate the use of string and tin cans or bells. Line them completely around your camp. Any large animal will make itself known coming through the barrier. It will allow you time to arm and prepare yourself. It even works on dumb criminals lol i have caught people and animals sneaking into my yard in the middle of the night thanks to bells on my fence.
CT Wild I always carry an extra bag full of bells and tin cans when I'm backpacking 🙄. This might work if your camping in your yard, or maybe even car camping. Better to just avoid contact altogether by keeping your cooking area and food supplies separate from your camping spot. And of course bear spray and large caliber hand gun as a last defense. I always break for eating at least a half hour before arriving at my camp site and keep my food hung on a high branch a good 60 yards or so away from my tent. Never had a problem.
henry R. , Whats the knife for?? Better get a LARGE caliber gun w HOT HEAVY BEAR LOADS. Or, stay OUT of the woods. Bear be using that knife for a toothpick to clean YOU out of its teeth.
anonymity nice attitude. So by your logic the African boma (which is essentially what this is) is a bad idea ? Ok, hey everyone, let’s ignore thousands of years of proven bushcraft knowledge and listen to this dipshit instead ! Lmao moron
JaDeD dRaGoN Last I checked dipshit a lion and a grizzly are very different animals with completely different hunting patterns. When a grizzly in interested in something- it will walk through a wall of trees and brush to get to it. I know this. Your entire knowledge is based on things you read online or saw on a vlog. Please do your parents a favor and take the tide pod challenge... #thintheherd
I was wondering if spraying bear mace around your tent would repel them? If they come sniffing around your tent while you sleep they wont like that smell.
You had some good points here. But 1 really Bad tip. A .38 is not will not and never will be a choice of weapon against a Black bear, brown bear blond bear cinnamon bear or Bear... Please give advice only if you can reference your advice. I camped in Montana and Alaska my whole life with no attack on my camp. An Alaskan camper here gave great advice. I use a 12ga pistol grip shotgun with slugs and a S&W470. I also pack bear spray cuz I know for a fact it works. Just get a better holster for it and practice drawing it and poping the safety off. (not in house, ouch)
The Forest Service in AK helped a lady protect herself in a cabin on National Forest property that she was assigned to occupy by running an electric fence around it. It might be a little heavy but investigate at a farm store for a livestock electric fence that is battery powered. One wire 3' high around your campsite, store your food 50 yards away and, you will be much safer.
After some reflection, I realized - we should be more fearful of BeARs than ShaRKs. Discovery Channel needs do to Bear Week. - with segments opening with " I woke from the sound of my skull being crushed." The Griz pulled a camper from his tent to feed her Cubs.. Yikes.. Forget about not going into the Water, Don't go into the WooDs☠️👹
Wonder if a bottle Cayenne pepper 🌶 is in some people’s backpack 🎒 to sprinkle around your tent ⛺️. It keeps the critters. Big and small away from my house (also in black bear country) It’s a light and small thing to Cary that could definitely deter curious noses 👃🏻🦨🦝🐗🐺🐻
When I am out hiking and camping in bear country I always hang out a pair of my most heavily soiled underwear as a deterent. One whiff of that and they don't stop until they hit the next county.
I'm a through hiker with about 2300 miles under my belt, so about four months of sleeping in a tent. Black bears are generally not an issue, or less of an issue than falling off a ladder. Keep your food and cooking utensils OUT of your tent. Hand guns are only about 50% effective at defeating a bear attack. Bear spray is effective in 90% of cases. If you are not distance hiking or hiking in grizzly country and weight is no issue, them of course carry both.
My dog goes berserk whenever a bear shows up in the yard. Point being, if you're sleeping in a tent, get a dog that doesn't like bears. The dog is an alarm, not a protector. Have a large enough caliber gun with a socially unacceptable magazine giving you as many rounds as possible. Yeah yeah yeah, you're in the bears backyard and they're peaceable lovable critters. Who eat people. If you don't have a problem with having a bear crunch you up like a twix bar, then Kumbayah to you.
Was also a bear going through tents at Juniper Prairie on the Florida Trail. The black bear was caught and put down. No food or hygiene products were in the tents.
Fishing string and cans with rocks or something to make noise a few yards away from ur sleeping area will help u be alerted of potential dangers and very inexpensively
I don't go hiking and overnight camping on the trail . just day hikes we sleep in a slide in camper.wondering if it's safe to leave foodstuff in the pickup ? , doors locked , of course. How about a strobe light ?. Is it effective ?
Man, the comments of amateurs is astounding! "I'll use a .22", "I'd take a .38 over bear spray any day". Sheesh, even the presenter is full of $hit. Search for relevant advice from experts folks.
When I was growing up in N.C. an old man who lived nearby had been hunting black bears all his life with a .22. A shotgun would be best, but if you can't shoot well enough to kill a bear with a .38 in 1-2 shots, take the bear spray.
I once stayed in a campground in Glacier National Park in which only those with hard sided vehicles could camp. No tents or tent trailers. All because of bear problems. I had my Volkswagen camper and promised to keep my pop top down so they allowed me to stay. .
Nice to see someone advising carrying a handgun in bear country. I will have to disagree somewhat with the advice. First a standard velocity158 lead round nose 38 splslug is a poor stopper of an an average sized human . It has a velocity of 850 fps , maybe from a 4 inch barrel . A plus p semiwadcutter is better but not by much . A 158-180 hard cast bullet with sharp shoulder is far better but you will need a357 to make it a reliable black bear stopper . If you handload ammunition you can come up with a 180 at around1150 fps, and a little better with a 158 , probably 1300. The best anti bear ammunition is made by a company called Buffalo Bore bullets. They offer a180 gas checked to prevent leading , hard cast bullet that leaves a 4 inch 357 at around 1400 fps, just about the same as a 41 Magnum in a 357 package. It has the weight and penetration to stop a black bear and possibly a brown bear . A lot of people have a 357 revolver. The next step up would be a 44 mag, or a hot loaded 45 Colt in a revolver like a Ruger. I wouldn’t sleep in a tent in bear country but if I did I would surround the tent with a row of spikes and hang barb wire or a metal cage around . the tent.I am a cabin or RV type camper
Michael Rosenfeld Good firearm advice. I have family in the NE US and we have over 20,000 black bears in their home state. I do spend time in other parts of the country, but more time in the NE. I carry a Ruger 357 mag and have it loaded with Buffalo Bore 180 grain cast ammunition. The average BB is about 200lbs in my relatives home state, but can get much larger. The bear population has greatly increased in the last 2 decades, so tent camping is not as safe as it once was thought to be. As I get older, I hunt in the game lands, carry a rifle, a side arm, and knife. I am out of the woods before it gets dark most of the time. Coyote hunting in winter months means getting in the woods before dawn and that requires a partner for safety. Anyone with half a brain would not go in the woods at night alone. The threat of 2 legged animals around Game Lands and state forests in probably a greater risk that 4 legged animals. Thanks for your Post.
For less than $10 you can get a grenade top/head from Amazon that detonates a shotgun primer when the pin is pulled out by a trip wire It is compact, cheap, loud, and light
I will never go into bear country again. Did so as a very young man, thank God I was young or I wouldn’t be here today to comment. 2 friends and myself went hiking in Alaska almost 40 yrs ago , we had no weapons or bear spray. Me and another guy totally depended on our friend who was raised in Alaska we were military and we had a weekend furlough decided to go hiking . We were in the woods and thank god we were almost at the end of our hike. I noticed something large a furry moving about maybe 1000 ft maybe less . I didn’t think it saw us , so we started walking fast one good thing the bear look old and seemed to have an injured paw it was limping there was an incline that led to highway if we could get up the incline we could try and stop a vehicle remember we had no vehicle we just like idiots are out hiking. I remember being up that incline fast I was only 20yo we noticed the bear limping but strangely it was moving fast we were up that incline and signaled vehicles to stop that old bear was making it up the incline but was slow due to the injured paw. We finally got this old guy with a pickup to stop, we told him a bear was chasing us, he allowed us to get in truck,just as we got in that bear was onto the highway. I often said God was smiling at us that day, suppose that truck hadn’t stopped, I’m sure that bear injured still would have been able to kill all 3 of us. That was a long highway there was nowhere to run but to the other side where there was more woods . That bear would have killed us all . We had nothing, nothing but the distance in front of us. If that bear wasn’t injured would we have made it up that incline. I’m 59 in July I never went hiking anywhere but with the military.
Poor bear..he might have been injured in a damn trap so guess it's karma if he managed to eat someone. Was probably very hungry. Ain't the bears fault..they don't think " oh that's a human, I mustn't eat that " ...it's their territory and we are the intruders. You were lucky to escape yes but don't blame the bear!
Id be wanting an electric fence around me. Solar power/battery of course. A minimum of 0.7 joule rating is recommended for bears. Dont worry about the voltage output ratinng. Theyre all high enough voltage to do the job.
Black bears, although they look cute from a distance, they have a more aggressive predatory side that people seem to write off. I spend a week every summer in bear country. I've only seen a blackbear up close a few times, and only once did on really make me nervous due to it's behavior. They are opportunists- I've found changing camps miles away puts you out of harms way if you have an aggressive bear in an area.
Can anyone give any information on weather there is any benefit to not brining cooked/hot food? I understand a bear can smell ANYTHING we bring but any ideas if it helps deter just going with pre made food?
A grizzly will have a nose that is 10,000 times more powerful than a blood hound's nose. If the bear is down wind from you, he will know how many different foods you have and how much. The bear can even smell you and your food from miles away. So bringing premade meals will not make much of a difference because a griz can smell the quantity and ingredients of your food. The best approach is to always cook and eat away from the tent, and to hang your food 100 yards or so away from the campsite. The bear will still know you are there and he will still smell your food, but it will be beneficial to not entice him! Unfortunately, many of the deadly campsite attacks occur while the campers are following all bear safety protocol. That is why having a fence and protection (e.g. bear electric fence & bear spray) is crucial to minimizing the risk of a fatal attack. A bear will hunt a human because it makes a calculated decision to choose humans as a food source. The bears will know you are there, it is a matter of their decision to eat you or not to eat you!
@@FosterGulchOutdoorsPowersports also an additional question. I have read some people have carried an air horn and "honked" that every so often during their hike saying that it carries farther than a human voice. They did say they still talk or sing but use the horn in addition to their voice. I have also heard that it is the voice and words that let a bear know we are human so a horn doesnt really serve a purpose. Any thoughts on which may be the best idea? And thank you once again.
This setup is a wise move as it would slow down an attack and also give you a heads up as the rustling against the deadfall would wake you up giving you precious time to get ready. The closest I came to an attack was a 2:30am wake up due to loud snarling from a bear that sounded like digging for squirrels about 60 - 90 feet away. Not fun. One good confirmation that came out of it was that we were ignored most likely due to a clean tent site. However let’s not fool ourselves. If that bear was hungry enough it would find us and investigate.
i dont trust bear,,am a prospector and i carry,,bear spray,,,a 14 inchs knife,,bear banger,,and flairs and a 12 gaige shot gun,,the whorse thing i dont like is a snick attack,,am always warry about that..good luck and be careful and always be alert
I camped for 30 years woth out a gun now that Im a bow hunter I understand that alot of people use a gun as a security blanket to be in nature. If you need a gun to feel safe outdoors your not one with nature nor should you be out there.
Camped in northern calif. hear a bear snuffling around about 2am. It left, and so did we. I was pretty scared hiking out, hoping it did not sneak up on us. Got out ok
I live in Asheville North Carolina and I camp all the time and I use mothballs put mothballs around your tent a fifty-foot radius you have nothing to worry about
In the 80s I was camping outside Canon Beach, OR, and was a very inexperienced camper. I pitched my tent for just an overnight, and was supremely stupid because I had banana bread and pumpkin bread inside the tent, which was up against a tidal sough and some unripe blackberry bushes. I slept terribly, eventually just stopping all movement to rest, not reacting to anything. It was August so the tent door was unzipped, just the netting in place. I heard this huffing and other noise outside, and by then didn't care so I didn't react. I figured it was a dog. In the morning when I got up, outside the tent were bear tracks. Right next to the tent. One bear, I'm sure from the location it was a black bear. I could not take down my tent fast enough and get out of there. The only thing I did that was smart was the bread was in heavy ziploc baggies which had not been opened at the campsite. If those berry bushes had been ripe, I think I would have been in trouble, or the bread opened. I got lucky.
Apart from practicing basic "camp-protocols", preventing or reducing bear interest and investigation in the first place, it's a good idea to "fence-up" a tent site, if possible; at least it may provide a bear with a visible, identifiable barrier, while the camper may catch some moments to get aware of and adjust to the stressful situation, that a nearby bear has approached. Though bear attacks are rare, these yogis are also curious, which alone could lead to unwanted human/bear encounters. To carry both anti bear-spray and a fire-arm (if applicable and acceptable by someone as a tool for protection) seems to be the way to go. But a handgun, especially in .38 Cal., is not a good choice, even for black bear. When the bear has decided to prey on a person, wants to feed on a human, the predatory mode has already kicked in, the animal is pumped with aggression, full of adrenalin, its instinctual pattern and avoidance behavior has been crossed, which creates a somewhat "different creature" from the ordinary. To open the chance to stop this kind of lethal beast, a more powerful caliber is needed, at least such as 357 magnum/158 grain.
Good info but I question whether a 38 caliber handgun is effective against even a black bear. It might kill the bear eventually but may lack the stopping power to stop it before it hurts you.
I camp in a VW Synchro 4x4 Van (steel tent) with Fire Arms inside...anything unusual outside, slide out of bed into drivers seat and take off...Air Horn is good along with plastic flare gun..
I've only been camping once in my life. I couldn't sleep and stayed up all night and kept the campfire burning. Will wild beasts still invade your camp if they see fire? Aren't animals afraid of fire and avoid it?
You missed a big one... brings dogs... Dogs are your alarm system. They eliminate a bear's ability to 'sneak up' on you which is especially important when you are most vulnerable at night. Just the noise factor of a couple dogs barking is enough to unnerve a bear and present a significant deterrent. Another consideration, especially in black bear country, is to call up the park you plan to camp at and ask them how the 'berry season' has been this year. If the berry season is strong, the bears will have lots of yummy berries to eat and will be less likely to stroll into camps foraging for food. On the other hand, if the berry season has been weak then your chances of encountering a hungry bear increase significantly...
A couple more ideas for bear safety are: - Bear bells. You can get them at most hiking stores. They’re great and most bears run when they hear them. They’re just like jingle bells. - Bear Spray. Read the instructions on the bear spray before you go hiking as most people panic and spray way too soon. Ideally you want to spray at about 25ft. The only thing you’ll affect if you spray too soon is yourself. Don’t wait until you need to know, it’s hard to read instructions while freaking out! - Don’t leave food on the trails. - Bears don’t all behave the same way so it’s good to know what to do if you see one. We have a rhyme on Vancouver Island to help you remember. It goes like this. Brown lay down, black attack. We don’t have grizzly on the island but we do have the white Spirit Bear. So if you do come in contact with a brown bear lay down and play dead. Same for grizzly. DON’T RUN, you’ll set off their predatory response and you’ll be lunch. And for black bear make yourself as big as possible and make a lot of lnoise. Again DON’T RUN. - Don’t climb a tree if you see a bear, they’re great climbers.
What would you have to say about the fact that maybe a pistol might not have enough stopping power? I'm not bringing this up to bash or deny you, but instead as a real question and hope you can reply. It seems like stories from the olden days sometimes they'd need a rifle to bring down something like a larger predator, and smaller guns wouldn't work. So is that still the case? Or did the technology nullify this idea? I noticed you did mention hollow point bullets, so maybe that would bring up the edge a bit? Hope to see your reply, and thanks for your article/video!
Thank you to everyone for sharing your feedback. There are a couple points and alternatives we will cover in our upcomimg videos this year:
Please remember that these predatory attacks are extremely rare, and that you cannot always prevent them by following proper procedures to keep your camp safe. This is because the people before you may have failed to follow these procedures, which is often the case with these types of bear attacks. Bringing your dog can also lead to more harm than good. There are also some other options to secruing your campsite, because some ecosystems are very fragile and piling dead timber around your tent may not always be the best method available. We will share these additional techniques with you soon.
We want everyone to stay safe and mindful of their wilderness surroundings, it is our goal to keep everyone informed on this topic.
"... extremely rare"??? Four listed in July. That's not rare; that is COMMON.
I agree. Bear maulings are pretty common. We often joke that it is not "officially" Spring in Alaska until there has been at least one bear mauling and/or moose stomping. There was one year in the mid-1990s in Anchorage where the wildlife (bear & moose combined) killed more people than people killed people that year.
Anchorage is one of those northwestern cities that is full of greenbelts and bicycle trials. The problem is that you cannot be paying close attention to your surroundings if you are riding a bicycle. A bicyclist riding by a bear will instantly trigger the bear's chase instinct. They are literally asking to be mauled. Or biking between a moose cow and her calf is a great way to get yourself stomped. And it isn't just Spring when people need to be observant. People's pets are taken during the Winter months by wolves who prowl those city greenbelts looking for food. This is what it means to live in Alaska.
+alaskaGLITCH
damn, its sounding as naturally deadly as oz up there...
could i make it with my AK-47 ;) pepper and blade as well...
You want a watch dog with a hair trigger ON A LEASH. He will warn you a bear is around long before any other warning method. The watch dog must not be allowed off the leash. Thats how dogs end up luring a bear back to its owner.
I think some of the folks below may have missed the term "predatory". There is a difference between predatory and defensive attacks. Sometimes it's hard to say which it was, simply because the young or the food cache that was being defended isn't visible. You are correct, though- predatory attacks are very rare. One thing I disagree with, though, is bringing a dog. As long as your dog is always secured, he'll be able to warn you of anything nearby. Besides that, a bear approaching (not out of defense, only curiosity) will often run away from a dog. Just don't let the pup run free.
A better idea is to actually learn how to camp in bear country.
Your camp site should consist of three areas set up in a triangle, each at least 50 meters/yards apart. In the first area you set up your tent and sleeping area. Absolutely no food is to be stored or brought into this area. In the second area you have your cooking and eating area. The last area is where you store the food you are not eating. Your food should be hung a minimum of 5 meters/yards above the ground between two trees that are at least 10 meters/yards apart.
Remember to keep all food away from the sleeping area, that is critical. Clean up immediately after cooking, keep your dishes and cookware in the cooking area, maintain a clean camp, and you should not have any problems with bears or any other critters looking for a free meal.
I have always carried both a shotgun loaded with slugs and a back-up large caliber revolver, but in the 25 years I have lived in Alaska I have never had the need to defend myself. I truly hope it stays that way, but I will continue to be armed for bear ... just in case.
Bears are naturally very curious critters. They have terrible eye-sight, unable to see anything clearly beyond a few dozen meters/yards, but they have an excellent sense of smell. As long as you do not give them a reason to investigate your sleeping area, they will confine themselves to your cooking area and where your food is hung.
Some may think this is advice is "old fashion" or "out of date," but it works. I've been camping in bear country since the 1970s using this camping method and while I have had numerous encounters with bears, none of them ever posed a problem. The key is to be observant. The overwhelming majority of bear maulings are the result of people not paying attention to their surroundings.
Even with proper camping techniques bears sometimes wander straight to tents.. all it takes is a crumb or even a little stain on your clothes.. so many variables even the most vigilant of campers have the possibility of a bear strolling in. So it's always nice to have a contingency plan. I line my camp with string and bells. It lets me know if any large animals are to close to my tent.
Everything you said is perfectly true of course. I also bring my dogs along whenever I hike or camp in Alaska's bush. They have far better senses than I and will alert to possible danger before I become aware, so I keep a close eye on them. Even with all the precautions I mentioned above I have had bears come into my camp at night, even with my dogs sleeping next to me. When hiking or camping in bear country it is a good time to remember that humans are only on top of the food chain because of the tools we are able to fashion. All one can do is reduce the risk as much as possible, but the danger is always there. Hence the reason for being armed specifically for bear self-defense. It is always better to have the means to defend one's self and not need it, than to need it and not have the means.
Just so I can understand you correctly. 3 zones each 50 meters from the next. Zone one is a 50 meter or 150 foot radius from your tent, zone two is another 50 meters our or 300 feet from your tent and the third is another 50 meters or 450 feet from your tent? Thats a huge camping area and may not be exactly practical.
I understand you are trying to give people advice, however..... this sounds way off to me.
That is not even remotely what I said. I stated: "Your camp site should consist of three areas set up in a triangle, each at least 50 meters/yards apart. " The first area is no more than 50 meters from the second and third areas. The second area is no more than 50 meters from the first and third areas. The third area is no more than 50 meters from the first and second areas. So that you are occupying a triangular area with approximately 50 meters on each side.
If you want to camp out in one of those tiny rental camp zones and become bear-bait, be my guest. We get your kind every year in Alaska.
AlaskanGlitch yeah, so I can't "reading comprehension" today.
I like the outdoors. Only last week I walked through a city park. Exhausted, I spent the night in a 5 star hotel. There were plants in the hallway and more in my room. I hung my summer sausage and cheese from the ceiling to discourage any predators. It was a surprisingly cool night, so I turned off the air conditioner. What an amazing feeling having to rely on my instincts to survive! I’ll be doing this again.
Now thats funny.
Now thats a good way to camp!!!
This is my style of camping!
Interesting analogy and not your point, but more people were murdeded in 2019 while in hotels than killed by bears...
There is an old saying.
"When a pine needle falls in the Forrest.. the Eagle seen it fall, the Deer heard it fall, and the Bear smelled it fall".
Carl Manx , THAT is SO TRUE!! Well said!!!
And the ranger was passed out drunk in the lookout tower
saw it fall...
Thats a great one, I love it!!!
Chris Wynes I was tempted to correct it too lol!
Dont forget to bring an air horn. Extremely useful. You dont need to aim, and there is no range. Best chance is Air horn, Bear spray, gun trio.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'll stick to my gun which I've had to use against a bear have fun with your horn
Air horn will just piss the bear off. Slick move xlax.
@@chuckkline2970 . Yep that's why I carry 2 guns and bear spray
357 magnum
Always put up signs that say this is a bear free zone it should work great
I recommend staying at the Holiday Inn and eating in their restaurant. More comfortable and probably safer.
I don't think there's a holiday inn in the deep woods where I hike if there was it wouldn't be much of a camping/hiking trip ,but I agree it would be safer and more comfortable
AAH! FUNNY MAN
This is the "Bear freedom of speech section"
If you use a 38 save the last round for yourself.
Ha ha ha.... good one!
Lmbo! True..
i would NEVER try to kill myself with such a weak gun! .44 mag at least! 12 gauge better... u might lie bleeding for hours until u die with a hole in your head from a .38...
overkill is always best when killing yourself or others ;) GETrDONE right!
I would take a .38 over bear spray any day.
PokerMan ,
Probably be better as a noise device than a weapon to kill a bear
I mainly camp in Wales, i once had a hedgehog in my tent , scarey stuff
Hahaha... Nice
There are also motion detectors that trigger a 120db alarm that were shown to be effective at scaring bears off as well as alerting people that something is outside and which direction it is in.
As a bear I approve of this message.
We came up with the idea for the attacks while eating fermented apples out of a trash can and I guess one thing just kinda lead to another. We were high but still - I admit there was a kind of coordinated and premeditated aspect to the whole thing.
I guess it had been brewing throughout June, mainly due to a dare that someone voiced some time back in May prolly. We laughed it off at first, but somehow the idea seemed to stick, and wouldn't go away and it just became like this pushy thing between us. I suppose we all sensed it was building towards some unfortunate climax, but it was like we couldn't stop the ball rolling, once the idea was out. To be honest, maybe we didn't really want to stop, but I conceed it all got maybe a bit out of hand. It was like we were all subconsciously waiting for mom and dad to step in and put an end to all the ruckus, but they never showed.
Looking back, I don't think we should have eaten our parents during winter either, but they'd grown kind of old and weak like they were kinda asking for it, you know? Plus - I don't think anyone can deny they'd been about roughly the same kind of business at one time or another back in the day.
Anyway - here were are and things can't be remedied, and I just wanted to put that out there. I am not making any promises. I am a bear for fucks sake. No you build yourself some barriers - it's true we get a little stupid in the dark. Don't know what that's all about, but there you go. You do your thing and we'll be bears about it.
Sleep a fair distance from where you cook and eat. Hang all of your "smellables" away from where you sleep. Have nothing in your sleeping area but your sleeping gear. Use your head, don't provoke critters, and have a good time. I have 42 years of backcountry experience 0 (zero) bear issues.
Trigger Snob Agree. Also, don’t forget that “smellables” include things we don’t associate with being edible. Toothpaste, scented soap, etc. Bears are attracted to unusual smells and they will curiously check them out. So keep highly scented items with your food stash.
And sleep with that .44 right next to you.
Bear can bear you bearly a bear issues!
I hang my food but a funny memory was the time I couldn't get it down due to a snag of a limb,glad no one saw me swatting my food bag with a big stick....I needed that blasted coffee,lol.
Good advice. However, when a bear is biting through a tent and grabbing a person, he wasn't there for anything else. That bear wasn't guessing at what he was getting. You smell like meat and that is all he needed to know. When you're snug as a bug in your sleeping bag the bear is thinking TACOS!
You do have some good tips, but the most important is to not give the bear a reason to be in your camp. You did speak of not eating in the tent, even camp, but your backpack and stove is right in front of your tent. Food smell enters fibers and held for a long time which was your point to the tent. The bowl/stove/backpack will also hold odors. Beyond food in your pack, you also have other smelling things like toothpaste, potentially candy, soap, deodorant, etc. All will attract a bear. Either way, the highest majorities of camping related encounters occur when food or garbage was present. Keeping a clean camp all but eliminates this. Keep them both away from camp and high in a tree. If you have a vehicle, they all should go inside. Cook away from camp. But if you are afraid of bears so much you resort to electric fences, or searching hours for a branch barricade, maybe you should choose another hobby, or educate yourself on bear behavior so you can better adapt, and equally as important lose the irrational fear of bears. The reality is this is beyond rare.
Also, when I hear someone quoting a statistic that clearly is abnormal, but also appears to be very specific, it makes me think there is some agenda since it tends to manipulate reality. You say there were two deaths in July 2017 which is true, but the reality is there were two deaths for the entire year in the US. This equals the average per year in the US.
To continue using 2017 as the reference, 65 people were killed by dogs with 645 disfigured. 16 deaths in 2017 came from lightning. Deer over 100. Horses, cow, mosquitoes, rats, all of these account for far more deaths than bears. That is not to say you should not plan ahead and as I said, have a clean camp and be ready, but building structures to keep these animals out is ludicrous.
Took my ex wife camping in bear country. Was alot cheeper than a divorce
Animal rights group will sue over animal abuse!
she should have dumped you a lot sooner.
@@marianfrances4959 you think I'm joking
Oh !? Is that why I have seen the disguised "Bacon" scent body powder for sale, in the camping section of the men's rights internet sites ? Its the cost of 1 hour attorney time, but like you stated, its a lot cheaper. Snark, snark.
Think of karma!
Just give the Bear a big hug and say youre from Berekely and itll go away
And let the bear know he can be any gender he wants
I'm dying 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Now that's some funny stuff !!! LMAO... OMG.. THATS SO TRUE AND FUNNY!!!!
Most likely lizard people/ posing as a Bear?
F- that bear sheet/
Yup / a 38/ 12 gauge / will take that f-ing Predator out/ better be prepared/ or your going down!!
Good times.. Christ Saves!!
I eat in my tent and hang my food in the tent, after eating my food I have a Marlboro red.
Never had any bear problems ever!
I recommend a good portable electric fence that is powerful but lightweight.
You have to memorize your plan, where in the tent you keep everything, clockwise, let me tell you, I was reading in my tent, in a campground with my kids sleeping next to me, five and six, just me and my kids. when I hear the crunch of a bear walking up to my tent, you could hear his weight in his steps, his deep growl, sniffing and leaning on my tent right next to my head, I Kidd you not, the fear is nothing like I have ever experienced before or since, my husband was away working so I had decided to take my kids camping, there had never been bears around that area, but because of fires the bears moved down, my food was in a cooler in the trunk of my car, but my neighbours had food in their trailer, which was a distance from me. once it left my campsite it moved on to my neighbours, the bear started banging around their trailer, I threw my kids in my car and drove into town, the next day, I went to retrieve my belongings, and on the side of my tent the bear had put claw marks on my tent, and now, I only will camp in a trailer, with a couple of guns, bear spray and my husband and will be forever terrified of bears........
keithrobyn keepness - that is a very terrifying bear encounter, thank you for sharing that with us!
That is much closer than I would have cared for. I can certainly understand your fear, and I am glad everything turned out okay for you and your children. Thankfully your food was not stored in your tent. This is why I will never use one of those rental campsites in bear country. They are too confined.
Despite what some may claim, I am of the mind that you should always be armed sufficiently to protect yourself from whatever may threaten you. In this case bear. The best overall bear defense is either a 0.4 caliber or larger rifle, or a 12-guage shotgun loaded with .65 caliber slugs. This becomes your "camp gun." Since you will not be carrying your camp gun everywhere while you are at camp, a back-up .4 caliber or larger revolver or pistol should be worn at all times.
Not every bear encounter will be as fearful as the one you described. I have had many bear encounters in the 26 years I have lived in Alaska, and I never felt threatened by any of them. I will continue to be armed while in bear country, and I will continue to camp in the manner I described above and I will continue to be observant. Hopefully by paying close attention to my surroundings I can spare a bear its life. The very last thing I want to do is to shoot a bear in self-defense knowing that I could have prevented it.
I also bring a zip-lock baggie that contains a few ladyfinger firecrackers when I go camping. Bears are very curious critters, and will occasionally stumble into your campground following their nose. If shouting at them is not enough to get them out of your camp site, then a firecracker or two in their vicinity is usually enough to scare them off.
You will have to assess each situation yourself to determine the seriousness of the threat and decide what means to use to keep yourself and your family safe. I am glad that the encounter you had did not put you off camping altogether.
keithrobyn keepness, you sure that "deep growl, sniffing and leaning on my tent right next to my head" wasn't a drunken neighbor wandering around lost that night?
I'm so glad you and the kids survived.Wow what a story of survival.Thanks for sharing your story.
Both of my adult children live and work on the north part of Yellowstone. Needless to say, they both carry bear spray on a daily basis.
Need more than bear spray you can only use it once they should carry a gun as well
Dont EAT WHERE YOU SLEEP
10,874 people were killed by drunk drivers in 2017, that one person killed every 48 minutes. So, how are you gonna protect yourself and family from those drivers…find a new hobby? Carry a gun? Bear spray? Sheesh, you have a thousand times more chances of being killed by your own neighbors than being killed by a bear. If you’re frightened by the possibility of a bear attack, please, STAY OUT OF THE WOODS!!!
It helps also to know what bear scat looks like. It has bells in it and smells like peppers.
Does it taste like chicken?
Lolololol
Great reply: Does it taste like chicken? LMAO
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NEVER keep your food in your tent!!! Best way to avoid a bear attack: stay in a hotel!
It's not your food the bear wants that is in your tent.
You're my likely to get killed driving to the hotel than you are hiking to your campsite
100 ft from your tent cook 100 feet in another direction
I do alot of camping in the Olympic Mntn. range, and what I use seems to work: I take a grenade launcher, and Claymore mines as protection. Yeah sure, the aftermath isn't pretty, but good security is worth it.
Heeheehee!
Amateur hour over here! I don't leave the house without heat sinking drone missile support, for camping, I bring my pet Rancor
You can never have too much protection. 😂
The knock on your front door is the BATFE, backed up by the FBI.
Lol
My parents took me and my younger brother camping many years ago in Oregon. We tried to get into a popular campground around Wallowa Lake, but it was full. So we were told about another small campground miles back into the national forest. So when we got to the other campground we were the only ones there. My brother and I decided to sleep in the tent and my parents were going to sleep in the back of my dad chevy pickup that had a canopy on top it. Well my dad for some reason thought he had put the cooler away in the truck but he accidentally left the cooler out next to the picnic table which was just a few feet from the tent where my brother and I were going to be sleeping. My brother and I had no idea that the cooler was left out. We all went to bed after dinner. Several hours later I woke up to some grunting noises outside of our tent. My brother was sound asleep. I just froze. I very quietly shook my brother and whispered to him that I think there is a bear outside. We both didnt move a muscle. We could still hear the bear grunting and getting into something. Well thank goodness my dad heard the bear from inside the truck and he knew what was out there. He pushed the alarm on his key fob and the alarm went off. That alarm did the trick and scared the bear off. We waited a few minutes and then my brother and I quietly unzipped our tent and with our flashlight looked around to see if the bear was gone. It was. He and I both ran to my dad truck and got in the back. My dad said that he saw a bear with its teeth embedded in the lid of our cooler and was thrashing it around. My parents were also very scared. We still have that cooler with the bear's teeth marks on the lid. After that experience I no longer enjoy camping and I refuse to sleep in a tent in secluded campgrounds and I will not camp in the back country, and I will no longer go into the mountains.
Update ,did you sleep on a tent again after the incident
The thought of a bear attack absolutely terrifies me. Thank goodness I live in the UK!
Me too...but I'm jealous because I live in Canada very close to bear country. A few bears have come right into my father in laws yard a few times. I get freaked out when I visit just getting out of the car to go inside the house. I'd love to live where there's no bears!
Everyone wonders why Americans love guns until they realize there's only a handful of cities and most of America's 9.8 million square kilometers are rural and in the rural areas most places have bears, mountain lions, coyote, bobcat and boar (more vicious than you think)
It’s a jungle out there. Go armed, or go down some predators gullet.
I never encountered a bear while tent camping. A friend however did, while camping north of Yellowstone, he was spared though but never went camping again. Until he saw my RV rental. It's camping enough for me to sleep well at night. He on the other hand had nightmares for a very long time and was put on meds for a while. Even when he came with us; every little natural sound would cause him to react. Motion lights outside seem to not make him feel even a little more secure. Needless to say he never went camping again and never went hiking with me again either. I can't imagine what he was feeling, but only those who have gone through an encounter do. By the size of the prints it was a grizzly. He knew pepper spray would be useless if a bear would pounce on his tent so he also had a hand held air horn can of compressed air type while he slept. He believes the air horn saved his life.
Lot’s of great advice on keeping safe in the comments below. What I do is make sure I stay safe from bear attacks by living in a country which doesn’t have wild bears. This technique has worked flawlessly for me for over 40 years and god willing will continue to do so. I make sure I stay alert and vigilant at all times while out walking the countryside of the United Kingdom.
The smell of FOOD is the biggest attraction. Bears live only to eat. I learned this the hard way yesterday as we were at a day-camping area (picnic tables/fire pit). We setup our mini tailgating BBQ on the picnic table and enjoyed some of the best burgers ever...well... about 1/2 hour later... the smell of those burgers must have lured in a black bear that was sneaking up on us...it was so quiet we did not even hear a single twig snap as it got within 25-30 feet of our 5-person group. I was very aware we were in bear country and HAD my bear spray in it's holster on my hip and was keeping watch. Luckily my wife saw it first and all of us were able to safely retreat inside the van. This bear must be a regular at that camp site and accustomed to people since no amount of noise we made seemed to scared it off. It took it's sweet time slowly retreating. I learned a very big lesson. Never again will I BBQ in bear country. From now on it's cold sandwiches or snacks kept in ziplock bags and NEVER will we spread out a burger feast on a picnic table with all the "fixins" as I could have been the main course and my granddaughter the fixins. Very scary to see how BOLD that bear was! NEVER let your guard down people! That was one sneaky bear we were being stalked by! But looking back...it was our own fault for having a yummy BBQ in a campground in bear country. Lesson learned. Trust me, these animals KNOW how to be quiet when stalking.
had a similar experience and the bear was about 6' away when it 'appeared' out of the woods.
I spent a period of a few years in SE Asia where they have wild elephants. There are warning signs for autos and motorcycles at entrances to National Parks. It was frightening riding my motorcycles through those areas. They say if on a motorcycle try and get a car between you and the elephant. Do not stop if you encounter one on the road keep driving. Do not stare or look them in the eye. The sound of the motorcycles can piss them off if they're agitated. I encountered an 'old one' once. I rode 20' from it and hoped I didn't set it off. It was a humbling experience and I was thankful it let me pass.
There are UA-cam videos of rampaging elephants.
The damage they do make bears look like puppies in comparison.
The brush "fence" is a favorite of mine - A must do.
In addition to doing that, I used to carry twine and several small dog collar bells which I would use to string up an outer perimeter, around the outside of the brush fence. Get the mini cow bell type which can be "snuffed" by stuffing them with a piece of paper towel, so they don't make noise in your pack. This is good if you're hunting. If it's windy, the bells have to be laid on something or you'll get false alarms all night long. As long as they're connected to the string, they'll ring out if a bear walks into/pulls on that.
Pee on the approaches to your camp, well away from your tent. Bring no scented hygiene products of any kind.
Build a fire, dispose of all your cooking wastes in the flames, spit your toothbrush wastes into the flames too. Take smoke baths. Let your fire burn down to coals before going to bed, then tightly stack logs on top of the coals, to create a slow burn that flares up, dies down and crackles a little, all night long. With that going, sleep with one eye and both ears open.
Make small "wreaths" of spruce or pine boughs, twisted up with handfuls of dry grass. If you hear something in the dark, you can quietly unzip enough to get your hand out of your tent and toss one of those on your low burning fire. The "wreath" will flare up hot and bright, lighting up the area. Then you can roll out of your tent with your weapon up. Don't look at the fire.
You can also carry small packs of fire crackers. Tossing one of those into the fire will usually send your "bump in the night" crashing through the trees.
I've also found sparklers to be handy things. Take two of them and fix them to one end of a stick that makes a suitable "spear". Keep it dry. When something is moving around in the dark, you can take your sparkle spear, stick the sparkler end into the coals of your fire and arc your spear out in the direction of the noise, intending to stick the spear into the ground out there so it stands with the burning sparklers straight up. That lights up the woods like you wouldn't believe and it burns for a few seconds too.
*DO NOT DO THAT IF YOU MIGHT SET THE WOODS ON FIRE! (Where I'm from, fire isn't a problem.)
If you do nothing else - Bring enough gun.
Best regards,
A Kodiak Island Native
My parents were camping in Red lodge Montana in a tow camp trailer. The trailer was fairly large, about 6’ High by 7’ wide by 10’ long. Anyhow,... my dad was about 20-30 feet from the trailer getting some gear from his truck when a Grizzly Bear came charging from the woods he ran full speed to the trailer and literally just made it inside and slammed the door when the bear hit the trailer! The bear was standing on it’s hind legs and was pushing on the trailer trying to tip it over and get inside. My mother was already inside. My parents screamed at the bear to go away and screamed for help! Eventually it did leave. But their camper was all clawed up and the door was partially smashed in. Their camper was a fairly tough camper NOT A POP UP style. My Dad said: the sound the bear made was terrifying to say the least. He did have a 12 gauge shotgun in the camper but didn’t fire it because the bear left just in Time. The point is , even though the “stick and branch” idea is a good one and might buy you a few seconds,... if a Grizzly wants to kill you, well, you’re probably gonna meet your maker. People grossly underestimate just how strong & Fast Grizzly bears are. A night time surprise attack when you are sleeping is a recipe for disaster! A big loud Dog or two would also help but a 454 Casull round is a must have.
Cody Johnston Yep, bears live in the woods. Some sticks do not stop them from going where they want to. I recommend living somewhere that doesn't have bears.
Jerry Krause I believe it's not meant to stop a determined bear, unless it's a really strong barricade, but to make a noise before it reaches your tent, so to give you a few precious seconds. Yet people in Africa surround their villages with a high fence of thorny bushes to defend from lions, and it works.
Dogs are the most VALIANT animals..for thousand of years dog being used to hunt..elefant.tiger.bull.lions and HUMANS..you can see 2 o 3 smalls dogs cirnering a 600 pound tiger..my one year german shepperd WAYEE..putt away a bear and follow him for almost a mile..you cannot negotiated whith a barking dog..senses hearing and smell too..for me dog is a must..beside weapons
I only have a new modle blackhawk with 300gr bear loads from bitteroot ammo. It's better then nothing and doesn't smash my little old wrist. Hope it does the trick.I only have 6 in it.
@Major Dickenson I agree
do you think maybe spraying your tent with ammonia might help we use it on in and around our trash cans and it seems to help
I follow spongebobs advice and make a circle around me for bears. He never addressed mtn Lions though.
I found, by accident, that laying tarps around your tent works to scare bears off, just like green horses, the noise scares them when they step on the tarp.
Always carry a gun and never travel alone.
Inner city 49 people shot , 7 killed. Your way safer in the woods but go armed any way.
They make portable battery operated electric fences to contain livestock, the game dept in many areas use them to keep bears out of feed at game feeding areas.
Gallagher makes a good one, they will keep bears out of camp. Just pack some wire and insulators and a way to ground it.
They hurt bad when you run into the wire.
Tom Hickman, our Foster Gulch channel has a video on the bear electric fences:
ua-cam.com/video/po0T7JvhKM4/v-deo.html
The NOLS allowed the use of their footage where the fence was tested with live bears. Click that link to watch.
yep, just what i want to pack when i go hiking
So many places to go where dangerous animals do not exist. I just hiked three days through Ras Al Khaimah in the UAE. Here there is only shy, curious, peaceful goats that will take a look and then quiickly scamper away. As a solo hiker it was always a nice surprise to see one along the way or to hear them calling to each other in the distance. It really added to the experience.
no thanks!
2 MAJOR flaws w this vid. Gun WAY TOO SMALL, and 2nd, Black bears are WAY more dangerous than griz. Blackies see humans as food & are ambush hunters, hit u from behind if possible. Grizzlies not so much unless provoked or old/very young/stupid or wounded. As for the weapon. Bears flesh is incredably dense & eats bullets energy quickly. A MINIMUM in the lower 48 would be a 357 mag w WFN HARD CAST pumped up rounds. PREFFERABLY a 44 mag or better. Buffalo Bore makes excellent HOT WFN bear punchers. Bear spray will NOT stop a sow w cubs (normally) just pisses her off more. Having a DOG along is a 2 sided coin. They will definately let you know if a bears around, downside, will come running back to you when being bear chased bringing the pissed bear w them. Wear bells when in bear country too. Bears sences are 1000 times more acute than a?humans & THEY know your around WAY before you know theyre around & will usually be more than happy to move their cubs away from you long before u see them. I lived AK bush 27 years. Worked w the best bear experts in the world. DIDNT even go to the outhouse w/o a bear gun. SEEN & HEARD it all. Only a fool goes into the wilds w/o a GUN!!
and if you see some shit with bells in it --- RUN!
Dave, I see your point about "black bears are WAY more dangerous than brown/grizzly", but it is not entirely true. Browns/grizzlies are much more aggressive. They react differently to threats, and browns/grizzlies often will act aggressively to deal with the threat. Black bears on the other hand are far more timid and will often flee rather than attack. So, encountering one or the other in close proximity in an example such as with cubs, or startling it, the brown/grizzly is far more dangerous. It is true that the majority of brown/grizzly (grizzly from now on) attacks are resulting from startling the bear, or threatening it/cache/cubs, etc. It is also true that black bears have attacked more people than grizzlies, but the reason for that is merely numbers. There are far more black bears in the US than grizzlies, with both a larger range and closer to human development. So, there are far more interactions with black bears than with grizzlies.
As for "blackies seeing humans as food", this is just untrue as it is with any other predator. Humans are not a normal part of their menu, but instead treated as a threat, so all bears will avoid humans in most situations. Most problems come from habituation and food conditioning, meaning they are accustomed to seeing people and associate them with food. That is not to say humans are food, but instead, where there is a human, there will be food be it scraps, trash, etc. This habituation accounts for the lions share of bear attacks from grizzlies or blacks. You are correct though that black bears (grizzlies too) can act in a predatory manner when it comes to humans. These account for the lowest percentage in attacks, but yes, the highest percentage in fatalities. Getting back to black, it is why you need to take action and scare a black bear whenever they appear to get too close to you and are unafraid, especially following you. The longer you allow him to follow, the more dangerous it becomes for you. This brings us back to your point that most often any bear will leave the area once it is aware of your presence and often before you knew they were there. All bear attacks are rare, and frankly if you (not you) are going to build a bear fences, or use electrical fences, you probably should find a new hobby as you have an irrational fear of bears and it is impacting your ability to enjoy the outdoors.
As for bear spray "not stopping a sow with cubs", or any bear, that is just false. There are many studies and statistics showing it does work. But yes, there are many instances where bear spray has failed. It comes down to the circumstance and how you use it. Spraying it on a tent before going to sleep (yes it was done) did not prevent an attack, nor did other circumstances where the bear was too far, too close or missed it completely. But if used properly, it can and has prevented bear attacks. To work, it has to hit the bear directly in the face as so it can attack the eyes, nose and lungs of the animal. If the animal still hits you or timing was late, all bets are off.
I will also say that firearms have failed numerous times. While we all like to think we are proficient with a firearm, I assure you that once you are in a life and death situation, that comes and ends in a matter of seconds if that, there is much room for error. Can you even get it out in time? If so, can you hit it in the vitals? Even "if" you hit it in the vitals, will it stop the attack in time? There are so many variables not to mention type of attack. So, while I certainly will choose a firearm anytime over bear spray, there are some who don't have firearms, may not be proficient in firearms, etc. For them, or in areas you are not allowed to have a firearm, then bear spray is best and certainly better than nothing. But the reality is, the best way to prevent an attack is to ensure you never have to. Knowing bear behavior and knowing what to do during the multitude of scenarios you may have with a bear is key. In that regard, most attacks could have been avoided with good decision making.
As for camp, just keep a clean camp, period. No need for wasting a couple hours building a structure around your tent, that you could be fined for anyway. Certainly save the space and loss of a man card for an electrical fence. Just use your brain, don't cook in or near your tent, keep all things smelly out of or away from the tent, and you will likely never have an issue. I mean, you have a greater chance of being hit by lightening than getting killed by a bear.
If, if, if. That's life pal. Probably don't hesitate to drive on a highway where you are about 100 times more likely to be killed than hanging out in the woods with bears, am I right?
See in Canada we aren't allowed handguns for wildlife defense. But we sre allowed everything else. So rifles and semi autos etc. I'd either use my backpacking shotgun or my 338 win mag or my 375 H&H for wildlife defense depending if im hunting already or if im just camping. If im just camping probably just my backpacking shotgun. Load the first shot with 000 Buckshot followed by nothing but slugs. We are allowed firearms for wildlife defense on crown land which is the majority of land. If it was my 338 or 375 H&H I'd be using 250 to 300 grainers.
Good topic.
Does the beariccade actually work? Any proof, without experimenting with humans?
When a bear tries to eat you and is unsuccessful, it's called a "Bear Attack". If it's successful, it's called a "Missing Person".
There's a whole bunch of missing people.
Lol the missing persons are people falling into ravines, into rivers or lakes and other similar but equally preventable situations. Rarely is it a predatory animal.
Very valid point
Chuck U. Your not missing it’s just thAt your now bear scat.
@@1stcSOLDIER LOL. Really? And how did you come to that conclusion? You really need to rethink your logic on that one.
@@1stcSOLDIER how would you know?
My wife and I camped at Mesa Verde - 8k high and rangers return to town at night. Last summer they had bears entering camp sites and posted signs for mountain lions.
We didn’t need it for the nights we camped but what I had was bear spray plus a Boat horn Which is load as hell and scared the krap out of our neighbors so I was hoping it’d do the same with a bear. Seemed like a decent idea and you can buy the small canister ones that are about 4” big.
Also didn’t cook there nor brushed our teeth etc.
One thing we learned at that height - the campers closet to us were drinking pretty good. About 2 am one of the wives started crying and screamed to get her down the hill. Turns out at that height 1 drink reacts like 2 so you can very easily get extremely drunk quick. They drove her back down the 8K winding steep road in pitch black Didn’t sound like fun especially since they were all drunk
A lot of people responding must be very light sleepers. You can have your gun and bear spray but if you go to sleep and that bear really wants to get you it'll be through that stick bear-a-cade and on you before you have much of a chance. Seems like it'd be smarter not to sleep outside in an area where bears are known to live. I mean, you wouldn't go to Florida and sleep in the Everglades with all those alligators, would you? Common sense can keep you alive.
Or just grow some balls. With bears across all of North America it's kind of hard to avoid sleeping around them if you enjoy camping
I sleep in the Everglades all the time lol
To sum it up: a minimum of a .44 caliber. What do you recommend for people visiting your back country but not coming from a country where fire arms and mace are legal weapons?
I have never been attacked yet in my tank when camping. I usually set up a claymore perimeter
Doug Taylor
I prefer a Bradley. More maneuverable
Some West Virginia boy scouts were camping in Philmont in New Mexico and a bear came within 5 yards from their campsite. The bear left and they were not harmed because they knew that if they would've got up to leave the bear would've attacked. Bears see that as a threat. That's just one way of surviving.
The worst thing you can do is to have food in your tent. That will attract not only bear, but skunks, raccoons and even wild boar.
I remember an article in readers digest where a woman was shooting a charging grizzly with a 30-06.4 shots bounced off its skull.The last shot went in the nasal cavity ito the brain.That was one brave lady.
She couldn't have been hitting him squarely on the head. I would love to read that specific incident. That's crazy.
How far away did it start the charge for her to get off 5 shots? Think about this, consider the speed a bear runs and hitting a running bounding target while probably rattled. The article had to be very fictional. Normal 30-06 deer loads will scramble his egg
I have spent a lot of time camping in the Alberta and British Columbia wilderness. Something that I learned a long time ago is to urinate at multiple places, several yards out from my tent, to mark a circle around my tent. I have seen bears come up to the spots and turn off to the side or reverse their course. It is marking my territory in a way that they understand. I would not recommend a woman doing this while she is having her period, nor would I even recommend a woman camping in bear country while she is at her time of month.
These comments are awesome! Just the comic relief I was looking for! 😂
People underestimate the use of string and tin cans or bells. Line them completely around your camp. Any large animal will make itself known coming through the barrier. It will allow you time to arm and prepare yourself. It even works on dumb criminals lol i have caught people and animals sneaking into my yard in the middle of the night thanks to bells on my fence.
CT Wild I always carry an extra bag full of bells and tin cans when I'm backpacking 🙄.
This might work if your camping in your yard, or maybe even car camping. Better to just avoid contact altogether by keeping your cooking area and food supplies separate from your camping spot. And of course bear spray and large caliber hand gun as a last defense.
I always break for eating at least a half hour before arriving at my camp site and keep my food hung on a high branch a good 60 yards or so away from my tent. Never had a problem.
CT Wild thats exactly what i always do & have bear spray & knife handy..
henry R. , Whats the knife for?? Better get a LARGE caliber gun w HOT HEAVY BEAR LOADS. Or, stay OUT of the woods. Bear be using that knife for a toothpick to clean YOU out of its teeth.
Dave Jan im in new jersey guns are illegal for most people including bb guns sad i know..
good lord i just read the dumbest thing on the internet today ...
I wonder if lighting a mosquito coil outside your tent would have any effect? Any thoughts?
Might help with the mosquitos a little .
The bear-a-Cade is a great idea. Kind of like an Africa boma. I'll be doing this for sure next camping trip
Really appreciate that!
JaDeD dRaGoN the problem with videos are that they lead people like you to do stupid shit just because it was posted on the internet... #thintheherd
anonymity nice attitude. So by your logic the African boma (which is essentially what this is) is a bad idea ? Ok, hey everyone, let’s ignore thousands of years of proven bushcraft knowledge and listen to this dipshit instead ! Lmao moron
JaDeD dRaGoN Last I checked dipshit a lion and a grizzly are very different animals with completely different hunting patterns. When a grizzly in interested in something- it will walk through a wall of trees and brush to get to it. I know this. Your entire knowledge is based on things you read online or saw on a vlog. Please do your parents a favor and take the tide pod challenge... #thintheherd
anonymity lol ok expert. Not our fault you’re too dense to understand the concept. Thanks for playing, idiot
I was wondering if spraying bear mace around your tent would repel them? If they come sniffing around your tent while you sleep they wont like that smell.
The bear drug him and when the drugs took effect, he dragged him away. Lol
You had some good points here. But 1 really Bad tip. A .38 is not will not and never will be a choice of weapon against a Black bear, brown bear blond bear cinnamon bear or Bear...
Please give advice only if you can reference your advice. I camped in Montana and Alaska my whole life with no attack on my camp. An Alaskan camper here gave great advice. I use a 12ga pistol grip shotgun with slugs and a S&W470. I also pack bear spray cuz I know for a fact it works. Just get a better holster for it and practice drawing it and poping the safety off. (not in house, ouch)
Perimeter alarms/trip wire with fishing string and primer caps would be much easier and more effective.
The Forest Service in AK helped a lady protect herself in a cabin on National Forest property that she was assigned to occupy by running an electric fence around it. It might be a little heavy but investigate at a farm store for a livestock electric fence that is battery powered. One wire 3' high around your campsite, store your food 50 yards away and, you will be much safer.
After some reflection, I realized - we should be more fearful of BeARs than ShaRKs.
Discovery Channel needs do to Bear Week. - with segments opening with " I woke from the sound of my skull being crushed."
The Griz pulled a camper from his tent to feed her Cubs.. Yikes.. Forget about not going into the Water, Don't go into the WooDs☠️👹
I thought about that very thing last night, watching shark week!
Wonder if a bottle Cayenne pepper 🌶 is in some people’s backpack 🎒 to sprinkle around your tent ⛺️. It keeps the critters. Big and small away from my house (also in black bear country)
It’s a light and small thing to Cary that could definitely deter curious noses 👃🏻🦨🦝🐗🐺🐻
When I am out hiking and camping in bear country I always hang out a pair of my most heavily soiled underwear as a deterent. One whiff of that and they don't stop until they hit the next county.
"most heavily soiled"
@@jaceofheartstheprinceofbed9415 Actually, I meant"moist, heavily soiled"
Bear-a-cade...dude... pun intended. You were so cute to say "pun not intended". I almost laughed.
I prefer a log cabin to a tent any day.
I'm a through hiker with about 2300 miles under my belt, so about four months of sleeping in a tent.
Black bears are generally not an issue, or less of an issue than falling off a ladder. Keep your food and cooking utensils OUT of your tent.
Hand guns are only about 50% effective at defeating a bear attack. Bear spray is effective in 90% of cases. If you are not distance hiking or hiking in grizzly country and weight is no issue, them of course carry both.
My dog goes berserk whenever a bear shows up in the yard. Point being, if you're sleeping in a tent, get a dog that doesn't like bears. The dog is an alarm, not a protector. Have a large enough caliber gun with a socially unacceptable magazine giving you as many rounds as possible. Yeah yeah yeah, you're in the bears backyard and they're peaceable lovable critters. Who eat people. If you don't have a problem with having a bear crunch you up like a twix bar, then Kumbayah to you.
Amen,you told it true.
And that is exactly what I did.
Unless the bear eats the dog first 😦
Was also a bear going through tents at Juniper Prairie on the Florida Trail. The black bear was caught and put down. No food or hygiene products were in the tents.
Fishing string and cans with rocks or something to make noise a few yards away from ur sleeping area will help u be alerted of potential dangers and very inexpensively
I don't go hiking and overnight camping on the trail . just day hikes we sleep in a slide in camper.wondering if it's safe to leave foodstuff in the pickup ? , doors locked , of course.
How about a strobe light ?. Is it effective ?
Man, the comments of amateurs is astounding! "I'll use a .22", "I'd take a .38 over bear spray any day". Sheesh, even the presenter is full of $hit. Search for relevant advice from experts folks.
When I was growing up in N.C. an old man who lived nearby had been hunting black bears all his life with a .22. A shotgun would be best, but if you can't shoot well enough to kill a bear with a .38 in 1-2 shots, take the bear spray.
That " Bear a cade" looks like it will entrap the campers more than keep bears out
I once stayed in a campground in Glacier National Park in which only those with hard sided vehicles could camp. No tents or tent trailers. All because of bear problems. I had my Volkswagen camper and promised to keep my pop top down so they allowed me to stay. .
Nice to see someone advising carrying a handgun in bear country. I will have to disagree somewhat with the advice. First a standard velocity158 lead round nose 38 splslug is a poor stopper of an an average sized human . It has a velocity of 850 fps , maybe from a 4 inch barrel . A plus p semiwadcutter is better but not by much . A 158-180 hard cast bullet with sharp shoulder is far better but you will need a357 to make it a reliable black bear stopper . If you handload ammunition you can come up with a 180 at around1150 fps, and a little better with a 158 , probably 1300. The best anti bear ammunition is made by a company called Buffalo Bore bullets. They offer a180 gas checked to prevent leading , hard cast bullet that leaves a 4 inch 357 at around 1400 fps, just about the same as a 41 Magnum in a 357 package. It has the weight and penetration to stop a black bear and possibly a brown bear . A lot of people have a 357 revolver. The next step up would be a 44 mag, or a hot loaded 45 Colt in a revolver like a Ruger. I wouldn’t sleep in a tent in bear country but if I did I would surround the tent with a row of spikes and hang barb wire or a metal cage around . the tent.I am a cabin or RV type camper
Michael Rosenfeld
Good firearm advice. I have family in the NE US and we have over 20,000 black bears in their home state. I do spend time in other parts of the country, but more time in the NE. I carry a Ruger 357 mag and have it loaded with Buffalo Bore 180 grain cast ammunition. The average BB is about 200lbs in my relatives home state, but can get much larger. The bear population has greatly increased in the last 2 decades, so tent camping is not as safe as it once was thought to be. As I get older, I hunt in the game lands, carry a rifle, a side arm, and knife. I am out of the woods before it gets dark most of the time. Coyote hunting in winter months means getting in the woods before dawn and that requires a partner for safety. Anyone with half a brain would not go in the woods at night alone. The threat of 2 legged animals around Game Lands and state forests in probably a greater risk that 4 legged animals. Thanks for your Post.
For less than $10 you can get a grenade top/head from Amazon that detonates a shotgun primer when the pin is pulled out by a trip wire It is compact, cheap, loud, and light
Bears is one of my ultimate camping fears. These are good tips. I'm still trying hard to get better at sleeping at night.
I will never go into bear country again. Did so as a very young man, thank God I was young or I wouldn’t be here today to comment. 2 friends and myself went hiking in Alaska almost 40 yrs ago , we had no weapons or bear spray. Me and another guy totally depended on our friend who was raised in Alaska we were military and we had a weekend furlough decided to go hiking . We were in the woods and thank god we were almost at the end of our hike. I noticed something large a furry moving about maybe 1000 ft maybe less . I didn’t think it saw us , so we started walking fast one good thing the bear look old and seemed to have an injured paw it was limping there was an incline that led to highway if we could get up the incline we could try and stop a vehicle remember we had no vehicle we just like idiots are out hiking. I remember being up that incline fast I was only 20yo we noticed the bear limping but strangely it was moving fast we were up that incline and signaled vehicles to stop that old bear was making it up the incline but was slow due to the injured paw. We finally got this old guy with a pickup to stop, we told him a bear was chasing us, he allowed us to get in truck,just as we got in that bear was onto the highway. I often said God was smiling at us that day, suppose that truck hadn’t stopped, I’m sure that bear injured still would have been able to kill all 3 of us. That was a long highway there was nowhere to run but to the other side where there was more woods . That bear would have killed us all . We had nothing, nothing but the distance in front of us. If that bear wasn’t injured would we have made it up that incline. I’m 59 in July I never went hiking anywhere but with the military.
Poor bear..he might have been injured in a damn trap so guess it's karma if he managed to eat someone. Was probably very hungry. Ain't the bears fault..they don't think " oh that's a human, I mustn't eat that " ...it's their territory and we are the intruders. You were lucky to escape yes but don't blame the bear!
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lol go into the woods and feed yourself to a bear if it will make you feel better.
Poor bear! He just wanted to be loved...
That's scary! I would have been easy pickings for that bear because I would have had a heart attack! Glad you made it out OK 😨
Id be wanting an electric fence around me. Solar power/battery of course. A minimum of 0.7 joule rating is recommended for bears. Dont worry about the voltage output ratinng. Theyre all high enough voltage to do the job.
Black bears, although they look cute from a distance, they have a more aggressive predatory side that people seem to write off. I spend a week every summer in bear country. I've only seen a blackbear up close a few times, and only once did on really make me nervous due to it's behavior. They are opportunists- I've found changing camps miles away puts you out of harms way if you have an aggressive bear in an area.
Can anyone give any information on weather there is any benefit to not brining cooked/hot food? I understand a bear can smell ANYTHING we bring but any ideas if it helps deter just going with pre made food?
A grizzly will have a nose that is 10,000 times more powerful than a blood hound's nose.
If the bear is down wind from you, he will know how many different foods you have and how much. The bear can even smell you and your food from miles away. So bringing premade meals will not make much of a difference because a griz can smell the quantity and ingredients of your food.
The best approach is to always cook and eat away from the tent, and to hang your food 100 yards or so away from the campsite. The bear will still know you are there and he will still smell your food, but it will be beneficial to not entice him!
Unfortunately, many of the deadly campsite attacks occur while the campers are following all bear safety protocol. That is why having a fence and protection (e.g. bear electric fence & bear spray) is crucial to minimizing the risk of a fatal attack. A bear will hunt a human because it makes a calculated decision to choose humans as a food source. The bears will know you are there, it is a matter of their decision to eat you or not to eat you!
@@FosterGulchOutdoorsPowersports wow!!!!!!!! Even the quantity and ingredients!? Amazing!! Thank you VERY much for the info and reply!
@@FosterGulchOutdoorsPowersports also an additional question. I have read some people have carried an air horn and "honked" that every so often during their hike saying that it carries farther than a human voice. They did say they still talk or sing but use the horn in addition to their voice. I have also heard that it is the voice and words that let a bear know we are human so a horn doesnt really serve a purpose. Any thoughts on which may be the best idea? And thank you once again.
I always post the sign “ No Bear Zone” so that they know to stay away.
This setup is a wise move as it would slow down an attack and also give you a heads up as the rustling against the deadfall would wake you up giving you precious time to get ready. The closest I came to an attack was a 2:30am wake up due to loud snarling from a bear that sounded like digging for squirrels about 60 - 90 feet away. Not fun. One good confirmation that came out of it was that we were ignored most likely due to a clean tent site. However let’s not fool ourselves. If that bear was hungry enough it would find us and investigate.
i dont trust bear,,am a prospector and i carry,,bear spray,,,a 14 inchs knife,,bear banger,,and flairs and a 12 gaige shot gun,,the whorse thing i dont like is a snick attack,,am always warry about that..good luck and be careful and always be alert
I camped for 30 years woth out a gun now that Im a bow hunter I understand that alot of people use a gun as a security blanket to be in nature. If you need a gun to feel safe outdoors your not one with nature nor should you be out there.
id be more worried about a serial killer murdering me than a bear attack. it happens more often than ppl think.
Captaraknospider you are foolish
ForPETE’S sake I dont have to contend with Grizzlies so I feel pretty safe.
"you are not one with nature"--when you are bear shit are you one with nature??
Rule 1. Build a barricade of twigs.
The past tense of drag is dragged, not drugged or drug.
Yes, I was about to post that there were no drugs involved in the Montana attack.😎
Camped in northern calif. hear a bear snuffling around about 2am. It left, and so did we. I was pretty scared hiking out, hoping it did not sneak up on us. Got out ok
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Seriously? A 38 Special?
That don't even work on a two legged animal.
would wetting the barricade with Bear spray, deter a Bear from the tent area?
nope
I live in Asheville North Carolina and I camp all the time and I use mothballs put mothballs around your tent a fifty-foot radius you have nothing to worry about
That attracts them because smell that's exactly what not to do
People are having trouble with bears, not moths!!!
Surrounding your tent with debris that a bear will have no problem getting through but will stop you from escaping smart plan
Loved this video I’m from the U.K. so I would be very scared to camp out in bear country huge RV for me lol
In the 80s I was camping outside Canon Beach, OR, and was a very inexperienced camper. I pitched my tent for just an overnight, and was supremely stupid because I had banana bread and pumpkin bread inside the tent, which was up against a tidal sough and some unripe blackberry bushes. I slept terribly, eventually just stopping all movement to rest, not reacting to anything. It was August so the tent door was unzipped, just the netting in place. I heard this huffing and other noise outside, and by then didn't care so I didn't react. I figured it was a dog. In the morning when I got up, outside the tent were bear tracks. Right next to the tent. One bear, I'm sure from the location it was a black bear. I could not take down my tent fast enough and get out of there. The only thing I did that was smart was the bread was in heavy ziploc baggies which had not been opened at the campsite. If those berry bushes had been ripe, I think I would have been in trouble, or the bread opened. I got lucky.
Apart from practicing basic "camp-protocols", preventing or reducing bear interest and investigation in the first place, it's a good idea to "fence-up" a tent site, if possible; at least it may provide a bear with a visible, identifiable barrier, while the camper may catch some moments to get aware of and adjust to the stressful situation, that a nearby bear has approached. Though bear attacks are rare, these yogis are also curious, which alone could lead to unwanted human/bear encounters. To carry both anti bear-spray and a fire-arm (if applicable and acceptable by someone as a tool for protection) seems to be the way to go. But a handgun, especially in .38 Cal., is not a good choice, even for black bear. When the bear has decided to prey on a person, wants to feed on a human, the predatory mode has already kicked in, the animal is pumped with aggression, full of adrenalin, its instinctual pattern and avoidance behavior has been crossed, which creates a somewhat "different creature" from the ordinary. To open the chance to stop this kind of lethal beast, a more powerful caliber is needed, at least such as 357 magnum/158 grain.
Thanks for the input. We have a video on the bear electric fence: ua-cam.com/video/po0T7JvhKM4/v-deo.html
Good info but I question whether a 38 caliber handgun is effective against even a black bear. It might kill the bear eventually but may lack the stopping power to stop it before it hurts you.
You could always just camp somewhere which doesn’t have bears.
Very smart idea.
I camp in a VW Synchro 4x4 Van (steel tent) with Fire Arms inside...anything unusual outside, slide out of bed into drivers seat and take off...Air Horn is good along with plastic flare gun..
I've only been camping once in my life. I couldn't sleep and stayed up all night and kept the campfire burning. Will wild beasts still invade your camp if they see fire? Aren't animals afraid of fire and avoid it?
Electric fence is best. They are made small and portable for camping.
You missed a big one... brings dogs... Dogs are your alarm system. They eliminate a bear's ability to 'sneak up' on you which is especially important when you are most vulnerable at night. Just the noise factor of a couple dogs barking is enough to unnerve a bear and present a significant deterrent. Another consideration, especially in black bear country, is to call up the park you plan to camp at and ask them how the 'berry season' has been this year. If the berry season is strong, the bears will have lots of yummy berries to eat and will be less likely to stroll into camps foraging for food. On the other hand, if the berry season has been weak then your chances of encountering a hungry bear increase significantly...
I still can't get past the.. "imma go sleep in the woods where bears roam" kind of thinking
Bet you hide under the table when it thunders too
Better to sleep out in the woods where bears roam than in a city where retards roam lol,thats my thinking anyway
Because camping is so much fun. Try it sometime, it’s very relaxing.
A couple more ideas for bear safety are:
- Bear bells. You can get them at most hiking stores. They’re great and most bears run when they hear them. They’re just like jingle bells.
- Bear Spray. Read the instructions on the bear spray before you go hiking as most people panic and spray way too soon. Ideally you want to spray at about 25ft. The only thing you’ll affect if you spray too soon is yourself. Don’t wait until you need to know, it’s hard to read instructions while freaking out!
- Don’t leave food on the trails.
- Bears don’t all behave the same way so it’s good to know what to do if you see one. We have a rhyme on Vancouver Island to help you remember. It goes like this. Brown lay down, black attack. We don’t have grizzly on the island but we do have the white Spirit Bear. So if you do come in contact with a brown bear lay down and play dead. Same for grizzly. DON’T RUN, you’ll set off their predatory response and you’ll be lunch. And for black bear make yourself as big as possible and make a lot of lnoise. Again DON’T RUN.
- Don’t climb a tree if you see a bear, they’re great climbers.
Nope , at least a .40 cal dude .38 special is for humans 10mm is most reccomended
corporate world woke slave I’m in Montana and I carry the Glock 20 10mm
What would you have to say about the fact that maybe a pistol might not have enough stopping power? I'm not bringing this up to bash or deny you, but instead as a real question and hope you can reply.
It seems like stories from the olden days sometimes they'd need a rifle to bring down something like a larger predator, and smaller guns wouldn't work.
So is that still the case? Or did the technology nullify this idea? I noticed you did mention hollow point bullets, so maybe that would bring up the edge a bit?
Hope to see your reply, and thanks for your article/video!
A Sasquatch is the Grizzly bear's only predator.