I sat in one a few months ago while in China and was very impressed. The rear looks OK in person but still polarizing, but for the price polarizing design is impressive.
Elliot, I remember when I was a kid, my dad bought a TOYOTA for 250k RMB in the early 90s, then a S500 for 2.5 millions in the late 90s, and cars like Camry still sold at more than 200k even in the 2010s. But look at them now, Porches has to lower their prices by 30%, Camry dropped to 140k and many don't even bother looking at it. What a great time for Chinese consumers, big thanks to all Chinese automakers and the government for lifting up this industry.
Really interesting. I think you are too hard on the design, I think it looks good. That boot is really practical. If X Peng could bring that to the UK for under £25k then they’d have a hit
If this car comes to North America, it's an extinction level event for the auto industry. The North American manufacturers are living on borrowed time.
@@paulb1951Well first of all it will come to North America - Mexico, Jamaica etc. But longer term such vehicles will mean that US produced vehicles cannot be exported as they will be so far behind modern vehicles. Eventually the demand from consumers will result in this becoming an election issue. Paying $100,000 for a poorly engineered, poorly built vehicle when the whole world can buy better vehicles for $20,000 can't last. Also, according to the terms of USMCA, they can also be built in Mexico so if Trump/Harris block this they're putting the whole North American trade pact in danger as well, further harming US prosperity. Eventually one Chinese company will take the chance.
I like the design. The rear is a bit avant garde, which to me is a good thing. I also appreciate the practicality of a hatchback design. Crossovers are ubiquitous and boring.
Be careful what you wish for. With around 12 new Chinese makes arrived or on their way I can see a time in the not too distant future when there is almost no choice but to buy Chinese. I wonder how the quality will hold up? What if China has a trade war with Aus… again…. all parts supply stopped!!
@@gillo3139too late, over 80% of all EV are Chinese made, so we have been exposed to this issue for several years. As for quality, there are enough teslas out there to know what sort of issue there is for parts. As for stopping supply, when have china ever stopped supply? Stopped buying, yes but not selling. I think you’re being unreasonably alarmist, but you could always buy Korean, like I did even though it’s dearer than Chinese.
@@gillo3139 so, like it is now with almost everything else? if our western hyper capitalist nations didn't off shore all manufacturing to China in the name of paying less for labour, and chasing ever more profits, then that situation might never occur.
Australia being a fully open car market its sort of an experiment compared to EU and USA. Seeing this does make me a little sad that Tesla didn't make the $25 USD car because now Chinese Tesla Xpeng went and did it instead.
I bought one for my wife, it feels like a less sporty feel model 3 from Xpeng. Mona 03 has a pink color version and suits young ladies just fine. It is a perfect first car choice for a young couple or a second car for a family.
Seriously considering buying one. 2 concerns: does the sun make the glass roof hot and in turn makes your head area hot and car interior? Is it inconvenient having all the controls on the screen or is it easy and quick to get used to?
It's funny, I actually quite like the rear. I can see that it's not good looking in a traditional sense, but it kind of reminds me of late SAABs, which I like. I don't know, I think it's cool
Living here in the States, the 3 big car manufacturers are hiding behind the government to stifle competition, thereby reducing ev options for American consumers.
$16,000 - sounds amazing. But we’ll never get it in the UK for this price. So I may as well stick with a legacy car brand. I tried an MG ZS and it was awful.
Great video, thanks. A BYD Atto 3 Design sells for €43,700 here on the road. Will the lower-cost bread-and-butter cars selling at attainable prices ever arrive in Europe?
I wish reviewers would talk more about the drag coefficiency that the exterior creates than simply how good it looks, or even mention it for that matter. You know, the thing that directly translates to how much energy you need to put into it for how much range you get? I think its funny you compare it to a Toyota as they hurtle towards a Kodak level extinction event along with others.
Where I live (the Nordics, Iceland) you buy Toyota for the dealer service and reliability 10 to 20 years down the line, that still has to be proven for the Chinese models. It will be interesting to see how they do years down the road.
The super integrated production of Chinas EVs might come back to bite you when you want to repair a ten year old car. Combined parts tend to be very expensive to replace.
Xpeng Motors is proven to be very very durable, they are even better than old Toyota or Lexus! The new Toyota and Lexis because of technologies and excessively used rare buttons are now far less durable than they were before 2020. Lexus and even more Toyota had to reduce costs, as they lost a lot of money during the COVID-19 period. Honda and Nissan are now much better than them for quality, but for technologies Xpeng Motors (and Nio) are recognized as being much more serious and consider each little thing very accurately to spare any risk of wasting!
@@fredrikbergquist5734No, chassis are standardized, the SEPA2.0 chassis is a reference since 18 months now and will stay a reference on long term, they did not improve it as it is software defined vehicle!
Yeah the price for Europe you calculated is what everyone expects - BUT sadly, even long before tariffs are even where discussed, all chinese manufacturers added about 100-120%% on top of the chinese price... Examples are the BYD Dolphin, in China around 15.000€, here in Europe it starts from 32000€ and this is what every single chinese car manufacturer is doing and why the cars are failing hard in Europe... Because they often more expensive than even European manufacters like VW, Opel, Peugeot and often even worse in range and charging, driving comfort etc.... And they don't have a service network yet - so why would anyone buy a chinese car right now. I really hope XPeng and the others are changing their really bad first impression they are leaving right now in Europe and start to offer good pricing. At 25000€ this car would be great and sell like hot cake... And before everyone starts yelling: "it's because of European tarrifs" - no it is not, they are just trying to milk European costumers, but we don't fall for this...
You will be surprised by the dealers' margin. After everybody gets a piece of the pie, that's what you are left with. And man, they are going all out with higherups blessings.
In my country,.The top spec corrolla is priced as an entry 3 series, c class or A4 from about 10 years ago. I havent been in the car market for about 12 years, so i was genuinely shocked
Yes, we need this in the US for under $20k. It would sell like a cheap Tesla we are waiting on. The looks are fine for the price, but we need cool colors, please.
Looks sophisticated BUT you mentioned that its suitable for older people. We are older people in our 70s and find it difficult to get into and out of this low type of car. Older Australians tend to go for suv types with seats that can be accessed without difficulty. It would be helpful to get seat height above ground dimensions. In addition I'm tall as well and find it difficult getting into a tesla3. Cheers
Plenty of small EVs! Here in Australia there a few good choices at around 20k USD. They are very well since the recent price drops. See more and more on the road
I like the front and back a lot, they are like all Xpeng models design, they request to be used to them as they qre very simple and discreet at first view, but with very complex liztle things we do kot notice at first...
Most people especially in America dont buy a car to drive it until the wheels fall off so i don't know what people are commenting about when it comes to reliability. The most I've seen people do is own a car and sell it to buy a new one after 5 years or lease it so they don't have to worry about maintenance and repairs when the warranty expires. China is way ahead in battery tech than any Western or japanese or Korean car maker especially BYD, which actually started out as a battery company before becoming a car manufacturer. You buy chinese EVs, not chinese petrol or diesel cars because that's not their specialty.
Pushing EV's ! In the UK 🇬🇧 Reliability, Build Quality, Dealer Network matter ! You still see 20+ year old Corolla's on the road. Will there be any Xpengs on the road in 20 years ????
It's a good looking car. The majority of people don't want a 'look at me' style vehicle, like the Cybertruck. It's a clean design. And most people don't give a fig about all the damned tech. It's just more things to go wrong. The Corolla has succeeded because it was cheap transportation that looked okay and was reliable. At this price and this good looking it could be an excellent replacement for the Corolla. Bring it to America. Please.
How much a car costs doesn’t stop at the purchase price. In Australia car insurers are about to introduce a new set of parameters to use when calculating the cost of repairing EVs. It is expected that insurance premiums for EVs will increase substantially. With that in mind, calculating the total cost of ownership enables customers to see the real cost not just the purchase price.
Funnily enough UK EV insurance is coming down because they usually are parked at night plugged in secure. New EV’s are proving cheaper to repair and EV specialist repair centres are opening up. The price of the battery packs have fallen 33% in two years to replace and new measures and techniques mean they can check the battery if in a accident and pass it ok rather than a few years back they were scared to warranty a pack of in a bump. Manufacturers have lowered the price to replace the expensive camera systems to the repair centres. They also found out EV car theft wasn’t really a thing. One main member of a car theft gang keeping his identity secret said it all when he said they didn’t like EV’s that usually more difficult to steal and they would rather target ICE cars they can sell on easier and could even break for parts.
@@SWR112 Thanks for replying. I suspect one thing driving insurance premiums here is the problem with Tesla battery pack repairs. That is Tesla don’t repair battery packs. As yet there are no third party battery pack repairers. So Teslas are more likely to be written off. Incidentally Tesla EVs have been the top selling brand here for a few years. I would be glad to see insurance premiums come down but at present that is not likely, in the short term at least.
Call me a grumpy old man, but these glass roofs are an unnecessary expense that get hot and leak when the seals go. Put a normal roof in there and save another grand.
Maybe I'm just a grumpy old man too, but I hate them Turn the car into a greenhouse, so the A/C has to work super hard, destroying range. "But it makes the interior nice and light": you can do that by having bigger windows and reduce all the blind spots at the same time. Or by having interior materials that don't look like the inside of a coal cellar.
Cars like Xpeng is really great for sure. However, even I cannot "write off" Corollas that easily. They've been around for generations, years, decades and even centuries. They've been repetitively economical, easy to drive, spaciously enough and off course totally dependable. Sure electric motors can turn such tables but mind you Toyotas have numerous of highly dependable parts. Toyota's weakness is not being totally committed to EVs though there are few like BZ4X and in Japanese cities (probably a few) have C+ Pod. All in all I would like to have a good Chinese EV over a Corolla but it's simply too early to say Corolla is done, way too early.
Corolla is ICE or a hybrid, not an EV. That's why it sells. 90% of people just don't care to spend hours charging cars and looking for free charging spots. 5% don't care about cars at all and you can divide the remaining 5% however you want. All that electronics that you admire are just waiting to break. I am going to take a wild guess: you drive cars for 2-3 years, sell at loss and buy a new car. My car is 20 year old, running fine and I don't care to change it.
It's a bit silly to compare a car that has not stood the test of time yet with the Corolla, a name that has sold tens of millions, and has built a very strong reputation for quality and reliability, with decades old Corollas still running with no issues. I'm not saying the Xpeng doesn't have a chance, but quality takes time. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
@@shaundudley4576 No honey, but you clearly jumped to a conclusion based on your "logic" because you clearly didn't understand what I was saying. What I was saying is that it's stupid to compare an established product that is almost synonymous with quality to a new product from a startup from a country that honestly and objectively doesn't really have the best track record when it comes to quality car manufacturing. You can't just assume that a new product will be of high quality just based on a first impression when the product is in mint condition. Anyone who has access to this product can go out and buy it. I'm not saying they should all wait. Maybe it's high quality. Maybe it's not. It can all work well now, but will it work well after someone will have daily driven one of these cars for 10 years? 5 years? 3 years? Quality needs time to be proven. Can I trust a 30 years old Volvo? Yes. Because I know what to expect. I like shiny and futuristic things, but not everything shiny and futuristic is also good.
@@threesixnine369six The only reason you feel the need to state the obvious so assiduously is prejudice. Your claims to superiority is under threat and you can't deal
@@shaundudley4576 now you're just making assumptions based on your own biases and ideological limitations, hinting at some geographical and political divide that you are seemingly a victim of, yet you try to project that onto me. Nice try,. But I don't care where a product is from. Good or bad, I'll admit to both. Bad new premium German cars? Yes, definitely a thing. I don't claim superiority for myself or anyone, so there's nothing to feel protective of or threatened by. Also, if you're saying that I'm assiduously stating the obvious... then you're acknowledging the obvious, so you're agreeing with my point, that the comparison was silly, and quality takes time.
@@shaundudley4576 so now you're making assumptions derived from your own biases and ideological barriers, hinting at some geographical and political divide that you seem to be a victim of, but you're trying to project that onto me. Nice try. But I don't care where a product is from. If it's good or bad, I'll admit it. Bad NEW premium German cars? Yes. Definitely a thing. I don't claim superiority for myself or on behalf of anyone else so there goes nothing being threatened by nothing. Also, if you say I'm so assiduously stating the obvious, it means you're acknowledging the obvious, so you're agreeing with what I was saying, that the comparison was stupid and that quality takes time.
Many “test of time”, “wont last 10, 20 years”……comments are in denial that the car these days are like cell phone, you upgrade to a new one every few years. It’s not to conclude these cars are not reliable but to indicate the world is changing, we no longer hold on to an antique car for 20 years, at least I prefer a new car when warranty expires and don’t care if a car can last 10/20 years or not.
LOL, just one tablet, hardly any buttons (thus, barely much wiring underneath) -- and you wonder how they bring the cost down to $16K. Imagine if that tablet gets stuck or fails while driving. Good luck!
9:09 sarcasm? elliot says good UX performance while the video showing the UX running in stuttery low frame rate 10:48 now we are seeing the UX at proper performance. maybe the previous scene the SoC was throttling?
Well, it's gonna take 30 years for this car to prove the same reliability as the Corolla. Good luck with that! Until then (30 years) I will be driving a Corolla!!!!
The rear profile reminds me a bit Chrysler Copperhead concept. Funny some design from my fellow countryman feels more American than what American does... Strange... Huh
Sorry Elliot, but how do you say the company name? "Xpeng" as in "X" - "Peng", or "Schau" - "Pung". The country leader "Xi" is called "schi" or "she" in the news. I am not chinese (German) but the way you said it made me wonder "Hang on, is what I learned wrong? This Guy does live in China, so he should know..."
No thanks. Rather have a 10yr old Corolla. At my age, I doubt I'd be able to buy an EV I could trust. The current batteries need to go and until new safer battery tech comes in, I'll always be at least 5 years away from a 2nd hand price I could afford. Potentially my UK Gov. could put me off the road with the current crass 'everyone in EV's' timetable. But then I maybe dead before that, as I was close to being run over by 2 EV's, both within 8 days of each other! Even with the new added sound, they are almost silent still! I was half in the wrong on the 1st one, slightly walking out into a supermarket car park, but did look right to see an EV and stopped 1 metre from being in his path way. He didn't see me and carried on at about 10mph (the car park limit). The 2nd one, yesterday in a hospital car park, I was walking very slowly (feeling I'll) and had to cross a few tiny side roads. I just remembered to look right/behind me when I got to a corner. The driver is supposed to toot their horn when it's that close, but he didn't. He just turned into the corner. Again he was at the allowed speed, but again, I couldn't hear the EV!!
it is kinda hard to believe that they are that cheap... I suspect when it comes out of China to export markets it is either way more expensive as they are increasing quality for exports (as communists have always done) and local cars may not actually have all quality parts, or they are subsidized a lot... I dunno. Yes, I know China has cheaper workforce but lots of place where cars are being assembled have that, it is not just that. And materials and stuff cost money, they will not be free just cause they are from China.
loooooooooooooooooooool you actually think they set up two separate lines for EVERY model they sell overseas? Do you know how mad and inefficient that sounds. propaganda got you good.
BYD equivalent is crap, and probably not profitable for them. BYD probably gets about the same profit selling the battery to Mona as selling a Qin Plus. The drive is not quite as good as a 3 SR, but it’s close. It can beat a BYD on a track by a mile. Efficiency is far better than BYD, Aion, about the same as Model 3. 30% bigger boot than Model 3. For that price…
It would be scary, IF it was gonna be $16k....but that's never going to happen anywhere outside China. Probably be at least double that. At which point it will fade into the background of dozens of other $30-40k ev's. Scary is disruptive, this won't be that.
I wish you would do a more complete review on the features and spend less time on the exterior design. Does it have a frunk? Front or rear wheel drive? Why didn't you show the lower compartment in the trunk? Why not show the space with seats folded down? How does the plastic quality compare to a Toyota Corolla (knocking and scratching test)? You played around with the infotainment a lot, but didn't show anything usefull, like if the navigation does route planning incl. charging, showing real time % remaining charge at destination.
I sat in one a few months ago while in China and was very impressed. The rear looks OK in person but still polarizing, but for the price polarizing design is impressive.
Elliot, I remember when I was a kid, my dad bought a TOYOTA for 250k RMB in the early 90s, then a S500 for 2.5 millions in the late 90s, and cars like Camry still sold at more than 200k even in the 2010s. But look at them now, Porches has to lower their prices by 30%, Camry dropped to 140k and many don't even bother looking at it. What a great time for Chinese consumers, big thanks to all Chinese automakers and the government for lifting up this industry.
You mean for the Chinese government to subsidise their car industry so they can undercut other countries and put their carmakers out of business.
if people still buy a craptoyota crapolla even now then they need to go to the psychiatric and get their head checked xD
Thanks to China's copyright laws adwell- which allowed for the rampant theft of IP. Just remember- karma can we a cow
Holy crap... This comment sounds like propaganda.
@@pauljiltsov9950 You mean it sounds so different from your medias' "objective reports"?
Really interesting. I think you are too hard on the design, I think it looks good. That boot is really practical. If X Peng could bring that to the UK for under £25k then they’d have a hit
That trunk (boot) is horrendous.
@@csilver9625sadly you are in the minority, most people just buy the cheapest a to b car that makes sense.
Not with the anti china witch hunt these days. The UK will slap a ridiculous tariff
If this car comes to North America, it's an extinction level event for the auto industry. The North American manufacturers are living on borrowed time.
It’s never coming to North America. Can’t for the life of me work out why I keep seeing such comments? Maybe it’s a bot thing.
@@paulb1951that was wishful thinking, so whats the problem?
@@julianchung9215 so why bother mentioning it?
@@paulb1951Well first of all it will come to North America - Mexico, Jamaica etc. But longer term such vehicles will mean that US produced vehicles cannot be exported as they will be so far behind modern vehicles. Eventually the demand from consumers will result in this becoming an election issue. Paying $100,000 for a poorly engineered, poorly built vehicle when the whole world can buy better vehicles for $20,000 can't last. Also, according to the terms of USMCA, they can also be built in Mexico so if Trump/Harris block this they're putting the whole North American trade pact in danger as well, further harming US prosperity. Eventually one Chinese company will take the chance.
@@rebymyou think Americans are paying 100k $ for cars ?
I like the design. The rear is a bit avant garde, which to me is a good thing. I also appreciate the practicality of a hatchback design. Crossovers are ubiquitous and boring.
If this is to become a world export car, it will really shake up the legacy makers! get them to Australia ASAP Xpeng!
Be careful what you wish for. With around 12 new Chinese makes arrived or on their way I can see a time in the not too distant future when there is almost no choice but to buy Chinese. I wonder how the quality will hold up? What if China has a trade war with Aus… again…. all parts supply stopped!!
@@gillo3139too late, over 80% of all EV are Chinese made, so we have been exposed to this issue for several years. As for quality, there are enough teslas out there to know what sort of issue there is for parts. As for stopping supply, when have china ever stopped supply? Stopped buying, yes but not selling. I think you’re being unreasonably alarmist, but you could always buy Korean, like I did even though it’s dearer than Chinese.
@@gillo3139 so, like it is now with almost everything else? if our western hyper capitalist nations didn't off shore all manufacturing to China in the name of paying less for labour, and chasing ever more profits, then that situation might never occur.
Australia being a fully open car market its sort of an experiment compared to EU and USA. Seeing this does make me a little sad that Tesla didn't make the $25 USD car because now Chinese Tesla Xpeng went and did it instead.
I bought one for my wife, it feels like a less sporty feel model 3 from Xpeng. Mona 03 has a pink color version and suits young ladies just fine. It is a perfect first car choice for a young couple or a second car for a family.
Seriously considering buying one. 2 concerns: does the sun make the glass roof hot and in turn makes your head area hot and car interior? Is it inconvenient having all the controls on the screen or is it easy and quick to get used to?
The rear looks okay to me. Front looks good. Nice car.
What are you talking about?? I like the back of this car the most. Extremely well done designjob by Xpeng! 👍
Agree, the back is fine, no complaint.
I think it looks good - and after all as a Corolla competitor it shouldn't be outlandish.
Definitely looks as good as any Corolla. Better than most.
It's a hatchback ! Are they making a comeback? Please say they are!
This more of fastback my friend... 😂
It's funny, I actually quite like the rear. I can see that it's not good looking in a traditional sense, but it kind of reminds me of late SAABs, which I like. I don't know, I think it's cool
Saab is THE ancestor of Xpeng, very discreet luxuous model, high quality, very correct price, quite rare unfortunately but good for users!
Living here in the States, the 3 big car manufacturers are hiding behind the government to stifle competition, thereby reducing ev options for American consumers.
$16,000 - sounds amazing. But we’ll never get it in the UK for this price. So I may as well stick with a legacy car brand. I tried an MG ZS and it was awful.
Quite right about the price, but surprised to hear you didn’t like the MG ZS - I spent a couple months with the MG4 and found it excellent.
Was it the ZS or the ZS EV? Because the electric version is an entirely different beast. I own one as well as an MG4. They're both pretty great.
That’s fair, the ZS is an old design and it shows. The MG4 is a much better car, a real hoot to drive
the mg zs is awful - try an mg4, it's night and day and vastly better
Tbf I was the petrol one I had. The economy was 23-25 mpg.
Great but I prefer optimised utilised space & short length for parking (sedan & no rear wiper is the worst combination for me)
Great video, thanks. A BYD Atto 3 Design sells for €43,700 here on the road. Will the lower-cost bread-and-butter cars selling at attainable prices ever arrive in Europe?
I wish reviewers would talk more about the drag coefficiency that the exterior creates than simply how good it looks, or even mention it for that matter. You know, the thing that directly translates to how much energy you need to put into it for how much range you get? I think its funny you compare it to a Toyota as they hurtle towards a Kodak level extinction event along with others.
Where I live (the Nordics, Iceland) you buy Toyota for the dealer service and reliability 10 to 20 years down the line, that still has to be proven for the Chinese models. It will be interesting to see how they do years down the road.
The super integrated production of Chinas EVs might come back to bite you when you want to repair a ten year old car. Combined parts tend to be very expensive to replace.
Xpeng Motors is proven to be very very durable, they are even better than old Toyota or Lexus! The new Toyota and Lexis because of technologies and excessively used rare buttons are now far less durable than they were before 2020. Lexus and even more Toyota had to reduce costs, as they lost a lot of money during the COVID-19 period. Honda and Nissan are now much better than them for quality, but for technologies Xpeng Motors (and Nio) are recognized as being much more serious and consider each little thing very accurately to spare any risk of wasting!
@@fredrikbergquist5734No, chassis are standardized, the SEPA2.0 chassis is a reference since 18 months now and will stay a reference on long term, they did not improve it as it is software defined vehicle!
@@EJFJ-Corporation Lets hope the cheaper models also will be imported into EU, might be a gamechanger!
@@EJFJ-Corporationnonsense
Yeah the price for Europe you calculated is what everyone expects - BUT sadly, even long before tariffs are even where discussed, all chinese manufacturers added about 100-120%% on top of the chinese price... Examples are the BYD Dolphin, in China around 15.000€, here in Europe it starts from 32000€ and this is what every single chinese car manufacturer is doing and why the cars are failing hard in Europe... Because they often more expensive than even European manufacters like VW, Opel, Peugeot and often even worse in range and charging, driving comfort etc.... And they don't have a service network yet - so why would anyone buy a chinese car right now.
I really hope XPeng and the others are changing their really bad first impression they are leaving right now in Europe and start to offer good pricing. At 25000€ this car would be great and sell like hot cake...
And before everyone starts yelling: "it's because of European tarrifs" - no it is not, they are just trying to milk European costumers, but we don't fall for this...
You will be surprised by the dealers' margin. After everybody gets a piece of the pie, that's what you are left with. And man, they are going all out with higherups blessings.
Eliot keep these amazing reveals coming
Get rid of them back doors and put some larger wheels on that and it would make a lovely little coupé
I normally hate Xpeng design, but I love this one! I love blobby cars LOL
Love that grey interior
In my country,.The top spec corrolla is priced as an entry 3 series, c class or A4 from about 10 years ago.
I havent been in the car market for about 12 years, so i was genuinely shocked
The rear doesn’t look that bad to me, maybe it looks better on cam than in person
Car looks cool....I wish we could get it.
Yes, we need this in the US for under $20k. It would sell like a cheap Tesla we are waiting on. The looks are fine for the price, but we need cool colors, please.
Looks sophisticated BUT you mentioned that its suitable for older people. We are older people in our 70s and find it difficult to get into and out of this low type of car. Older Australians tend to go for suv types with seats that can be accessed without difficulty. It would be helpful to get seat height above ground dimensions. In addition I'm tall as well and find it difficult getting into a tesla3. Cheers
The front end is so handsome but that rear end..... yikes
I have a Corolla which I absolutely love. But I will definitely consider this car when I'm ready to upgrade
Looks cool but it's too big, We need cars the size of a vw polo or ford fiesta.
Not no, but people would complain about range. Just look at the Mini EV, Honda E, etc
Plenty of small EVs! Here in Australia there a few good choices at around 20k USD. They are very well since the recent price drops. See more and more on the road
Brilliant review - thank you
I like the front and back a lot, they are like all Xpeng models design, they request to be used to them as they qre very simple and discreet at first view, but with very complex liztle things we do kot notice at first...
Woah! Lost for words, the rear end.
I think it looks good. I think it's because it doesn't look like any other back end out there
@@Angusoksen I must get someone to take a pic of my rear end then. Maybe it's not as bad as I thought!
Looks exactly like an old nes controller pad!
Looks like a real Volkswagen, pricewise
😂You want to put salt on VW's wound, I get it. But you dont need to spraying salt all around. It gets into my eyes!
Most people especially in America dont buy a car to drive it until the wheels fall off so i don't know what people are commenting about when it comes to reliability. The most I've seen people do is own a car and sell it to buy a new one after 5 years or lease it so they don't have to worry about maintenance and repairs when the warranty expires. China is way ahead in battery tech than any Western or japanese or Korean car maker especially BYD, which actually started out as a battery company before becoming a car manufacturer. You buy chinese EVs, not chinese petrol or diesel cars because that's not their specialty.
This is the only Xiaopeng that can make me feel tempted
Pushing EV's ! In the UK 🇬🇧 Reliability, Build Quality, Dealer Network matter ! You still see 20+ year old Corolla's on the road. Will there be any Xpengs on the road in 20 years ????
When I saw the front I thought it was a Polestar 4 😂.
i sat in 1 last week , somehow my memory of the Ford Modeo came rushing back , 90 , 91 i think same 'hatchback' .
Elliot has the bad habit of only showing himself on camera... We want to see the car Elliot... 😅
Nice music choice.
I don't have too much money but I'd buy that car.
Any initiative that will lower car prices is a win for consumers. The legacy auto cartel has been abusing car owners for far too long.
😮cool
It's a good looking car. The majority of people don't want a 'look at me' style vehicle, like the Cybertruck. It's a clean design. And most people don't give a fig about all the damned tech. It's just more things to go wrong. The Corolla has succeeded because it was cheap transportation that looked okay and was reliable. At this price and this good looking it could be an excellent replacement for the Corolla. Bring it to America. Please.
I wonder if this is coming to Australia? It would explain why MG has just dumped its prices on MG4
Nice but I want physical buttons!!!!
I'm not sure why you hated the rear so much because I actually do like it, but I agree that it would look even better if it's a bit less "blobby".
If this is anything like the Xpeng G6 it will be really good. Oh that back seat is small.
How much a car costs doesn’t stop at the purchase price. In Australia car insurers are about to introduce a new set of parameters to use when calculating the cost of repairing EVs. It is expected that insurance premiums for EVs will increase substantially. With that in mind, calculating the total cost of ownership enables customers to see the real cost not just the purchase price.
Funnily enough UK EV insurance is coming down because they usually are parked at night plugged in secure. New EV’s are proving cheaper to repair and EV specialist repair centres are opening up. The price of the battery packs have fallen 33% in two years to replace and new measures and techniques mean they can check the battery if in a accident and pass it ok rather than a few years back they were scared to warranty a pack of in a bump. Manufacturers have lowered the price to replace the expensive camera systems to the repair centres. They also found out EV car theft wasn’t really a thing. One main member of a car theft gang keeping his identity secret said it all when he said they didn’t like EV’s that usually more difficult to steal and they would rather target ICE cars they can sell on easier and could even break for parts.
@@SWR112 Thanks for replying. I suspect one thing driving insurance premiums here is the problem with Tesla battery pack repairs. That is Tesla don’t repair battery packs. As yet there are no third party battery pack repairers. So Teslas are more likely to be written off. Incidentally Tesla EVs have been the top selling brand here for a few years. I would be glad to see insurance premiums come down but at present that is not likely, in the short term at least.
Any EV is a premium product because EV is still novel. I guess the insurance rates will come down relative to ICE over time.
@@simon-c2y Agreed. We are in a transition phase atm so things like insurance are going to bounce around.
I can live with that rear. Nobody's going to come up to me and say your rear is ugly as fuck. Would they?
Is a hatchback a sedan?? I thought they were different cars
Call me a grumpy old man, but these glass roofs are an unnecessary expense that get hot and leak when the seals go. Put a normal roof in there and save another grand.
This is not openable, so there is no leakage.
@@chjin1796 But it's going to have seals, like any other window. Windscreens leak. Side windows leak. Rear windows leak.
Maybe I'm just a grumpy old man too, but I hate them Turn the car into a greenhouse, so the A/C has to work super hard, destroying range. "But it makes the interior nice and light": you can do that by having bigger windows and reduce all the blind spots at the same time. Or by having interior materials that don't look like the inside of a coal cellar.
@@markdearden1697 Yep.
16k car with rear vent? Sadly it is not available in Australia.
Looks really promising
Please bring to Australia!
Where's the speedometer?
Fantastic. I would buy one but my apartment building has no electrical outlets in parking areas.....so the Corolla hybrid still wins
All of my local shopping centres and community parking lots have dedicated charging spots. So definitely doable
Thank you Elliot. Isn’t internet wonderful for learning new facts. I didn’t know Chinese pigeons understood Engrish 😂
Cars like Xpeng is really great for sure. However, even I cannot "write off" Corollas that easily. They've been around for generations, years, decades and even centuries. They've been repetitively economical, easy to drive, spaciously enough and off course totally dependable. Sure electric motors can turn such tables but mind you Toyotas have numerous of highly dependable parts. Toyota's weakness is not being totally committed to EVs though there are few like BZ4X and in Japanese cities (probably a few) have C+ Pod.
All in all I would like to have a good Chinese EV over a Corolla but it's simply too early to say Corolla is done, way too early.
We hope we have it with new parts, to repair it, in EU. 😊🎉
MG 4 is selling in Australia for $30k which equates to just under $20k USD so that doesn’t make $16k USD sound like an amazing bargain
MG 4 driving dynamics is good, but tech, features and efficiency wise it's at least one full generation behind the Xpeng Mona.
I contacted expeng in Portugal a week ago and a female contacted me and told me that their Lisbon
dealer would contact me .
Notice Corolla size vehicles are closer to Toyota Crowns size from days long ago.
Nah, today Camry is Crown back in 80s or 90s. Corolla is still Corolla
This is what model 3 should cost
400V architecture is more cost effective, and close to ~400V 3-phase voltage.
If you look at the pricing of other Xpeng models available in Europe Vs RMB prices then this should be around €25,000 in Europe.
16k usd in Australia with taxes and fat cat tax on top makes it around 49k
Corolla is ICE or a hybrid, not an EV. That's why it sells. 90% of people just don't care to spend hours charging cars and looking for free charging spots. 5% don't care about cars at all and you can divide the remaining 5% however you want. All that electronics that you admire are just waiting to break. I am going to take a wild guess: you drive cars for 2-3 years, sell at loss and buy a new car. My car is 20 year old, running fine and I don't care to change it.
It's a bit silly to compare a car that has not stood the test of time yet with the Corolla, a name that has sold tens of millions, and has built a very strong reputation for quality and reliability, with decades old Corollas still running with no issues. I'm not saying the Xpeng doesn't have a chance, but quality takes time. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
So according to your "logic" a car is only worth buying at least ten years after its launch.
@@shaundudley4576 No honey, but you clearly jumped to a conclusion based on your "logic" because you clearly didn't understand what I was saying.
What I was saying is that it's stupid to compare an established product that is almost synonymous with quality to a new product from a startup from a country that honestly and objectively doesn't really have the best track record when it comes to quality car manufacturing. You can't just assume that a new product will be of high quality just based on a first impression when the product is in mint condition.
Anyone who has access to this product can go out and buy it. I'm not saying they should all wait. Maybe it's high quality. Maybe it's not. It can all work well now, but will it work well after someone will have daily driven one of these cars for 10 years? 5 years? 3 years? Quality needs time to be proven. Can I trust a 30 years old Volvo? Yes. Because I know what to expect. I like shiny and futuristic things, but not everything shiny and futuristic is also good.
@@threesixnine369six The only reason you feel the need to state the obvious so assiduously is prejudice. Your claims to superiority is under threat and you can't deal
@@shaundudley4576 now you're just making assumptions based on your own biases and ideological limitations, hinting at some geographical and political divide that you are seemingly a victim of, yet you try to project that onto me. Nice try,. But I don't care where a product is from. Good or bad, I'll admit to both. Bad new premium German cars? Yes, definitely a thing.
I don't claim superiority for myself or anyone, so there's nothing to feel protective of or threatened by.
Also, if you're saying that I'm assiduously stating the obvious... then you're acknowledging the obvious, so you're agreeing with my point, that the comparison was silly, and quality takes time.
@@shaundudley4576 so now you're making assumptions derived from your own biases and ideological barriers, hinting at some geographical and political divide that you seem to be a victim of, but you're trying to project that onto me. Nice try. But I don't care where a product is from. If it's good or bad, I'll admit it. Bad NEW premium German cars? Yes. Definitely a thing.
I don't claim superiority for myself or on behalf of anyone else so there goes nothing being threatened by nothing.
Also, if you say I'm so assiduously stating the obvious, it means you're acknowledging the obvious, so you're agreeing with what I was saying, that the comparison was stupid and that quality takes time.
Many “test of time”, “wont last 10, 20 years”……comments are in denial that the car these days are like cell phone, you upgrade to a new one every few years. It’s not to conclude these cars are not reliable but to indicate the world is changing, we no longer hold on to an antique car for 20 years, at least I prefer a new car when warranty expires and don’t care if a car can last 10/20 years or not.
LOL, just one tablet, hardly any buttons (thus, barely much wiring underneath) -- and you wonder how they bring the cost down to $16K. Imagine if that tablet gets stuck or fails while driving. Good luck!
Could you have picked a better location to review
9:09 sarcasm? elliot says good UX performance while the video showing the UX running in stuttery low frame rate
10:48 now we are seeing the UX at proper performance. maybe the previous scene the SoC was throttling?
Please explain "3 times less money than the polestar"
No, no, no. We want buttons so we can keep our eyes on the road
Looks like a slightly curvier polstar 2 for a fraction of the price.
Shee - peng !
I think this car is perfect for singles or young people not families
Now and day, any car don't drive itself is irrelevant. No one give a crap about cheap price, when the technology is too great.
Well, it's gonna take 30 years for this car to prove the same reliability as the Corolla. Good luck with that! Until then (30 years) I will be driving a Corolla!!!!
The car is pretty much a BYD (entire powertrain)
The rear profile reminds me a bit Chrysler Copperhead concept. Funny some design from my fellow countryman feels more American than what American does... Strange... Huh
If it comes to Europe it will cost like 3-4x this price :/
That rear end is...something. 🤔
To be fair, IMO a Camry has an ugly rear and sells heaps, so what do I know?
We will never see prices for cars like they get in China. This is because of politics and tariffs
Can the average worker of this brand afford this car, that's what I'd like to know.
杂种话里有话
买不起 你给买吗？
Why?😊
Certainly
What a dumb question. If an ‘average worker’ can afford an overpriced Volkswagen, then he can certainly afford a Chinese car. 🐼 🇨🇳
Sorry Elliot, but how do you say the company name? "Xpeng" as in "X" - "Peng", or "Schau" - "Pung". The country leader "Xi" is called "schi" or "she" in the news. I am not chinese (German) but the way you said it made me wonder "Hang on, is what I learned wrong? This Guy does live in China, so he should know..."
No thanks. Rather have a 10yr old Corolla.
At my age, I doubt I'd be able to buy an EV I could trust. The current batteries need to go and until new safer battery tech comes in, I'll always be at least 5 years away from a 2nd hand price I could afford.
Potentially my UK Gov. could put me off the road with the current crass 'everyone in EV's' timetable.
But then I maybe dead before that, as I was close to being run over by 2 EV's, both within 8 days of each other!
Even with the new added sound, they are almost silent still!
I was half in the wrong on the 1st one, slightly walking out into a supermarket car park, but did look right to see an EV and stopped 1 metre from being in his path way. He didn't see me and carried on at about 10mph (the car park limit).
The 2nd one, yesterday in a hospital car park, I was walking very slowly (feeling I'll) and had to cross a few tiny side roads.
I just remembered to look right/behind me when I got to a corner. The driver is supposed to toot their horn when it's that close, but he didn't. He just turned into the corner. Again he was at the allowed speed, but again, I couldn't hear the EV!!
Xpeng was founded 10 years ago but they’ve only been selling cars the past 5. That doesn’t make them some screen UX expert like you claim lol
it is kinda hard to believe that they are that cheap... I suspect when it comes out of China to export markets it is either way more expensive as they are increasing quality for exports (as communists have always done) and local cars may not actually have all quality parts, or they are subsidized a lot... I dunno. Yes, I know China has cheaper workforce but lots of place where cars are being assembled have that, it is not just that. And materials and stuff cost money, they will not be free just cause they are from China.
loooooooooooooooooooool you actually think they set up two separate lines for EVERY model they sell overseas? Do you know how mad and inefficient that sounds. propaganda got you good.
BYD equivalent is crap, and probably not profitable for them. BYD probably gets about the same profit selling the battery to Mona as selling a Qin Plus. The drive is not quite as good as a 3 SR, but it’s close. It can beat a BYD on a track by a mile. Efficiency is far better than BYD, Aion, about the same as Model 3. 30% bigger boot than Model 3. For that price…
It would be scary, IF it was gonna be $16k....but that's never going to happen anywhere outside China. Probably be at least double that. At which point it will fade into the background of dozens of other $30-40k ev's. Scary is disruptive, this won't be that.
11:35 - learning from 10 years of experience, or ripping off Tesla design? Hmmm....
I won’t buy a car without a display in front of me.
Why do all these fools put in a glass roof without an auto cover. Stupid
Double the Chinese price to get the minimum price in the West
I wish you would do a more complete review on the features and spend less time on the exterior design. Does it have a frunk? Front or rear wheel drive? Why didn't you show the lower compartment in the trunk? Why not show the space with seats folded down? How does the plastic quality compare to a Toyota Corolla (knocking and scratching test)? You played around with the infotainment a lot, but didn't show anything usefull, like if the navigation does route planning incl. charging, showing real time % remaining charge at destination.
Everything makes sense on paper. Too bad you ride on asphalt.