no. i don't want to improve. i want to become worse. my ultimate goal is to become the first four digit six digit. to become this bad i gotta ruin my every single good habit and play so infrequently i get worse at every skill, but stay at my current rank.
Putting in the effort is honestly the biggest thing for me, i will play for like 30 min a day for months and not improve then play for 2 hours a day for like a month and suddenly double my rank
I know it may sound very weird but this video is more complex than people will think. I was in a depression state i have some irl issues i can't deal with at the moment and this is a very helpful advice to everyone it just uses osu! as an example. Thank you Willy i never thought you will be the one that gives me that motivational speech so i can move on with my life.
You want to improve? Just keep playing! I'm currently at high 2* range and was really struggling especially on these mini bursts/streams ranging from 3 to 6 notes on higher bpm maps. From one map to another I suddenly realized what the problem was - it just made "click". I tried to hit each individual circle consciously and lost the beat on my tapping fingers doing so. So I tried for a couple maps to just move the cursor along the pattern while continue tapping to the beat and that did the trick. I guess that's what you call flow aim. I'm still getting a bit used to it but I'm now much more comfortable on the higher 2* maps than I used to be. So back to the point: Just keep playing and you figure out your weaknesses naturally which leads to more improvement.
Such a good anology It took me 3 YEARS to get to rank #99 999 But a couple weeks to get to #36 000 There are no tricks, no shortcuts, just play the game.
tip: practice maps that you have fun if you struggles with 220bpm, play 220bpm songs that you enjoy, or maybe map yourself a 220bpm song. when i was struggling with low bpm, i just mapped bewitched and played for a few weeks it (and it actually worked) its on my channel btw@@ap-qd9xf
or maybe even remap songs you enjoy, i remember remaping snow goose a few months ago edit: just noticed my other reply got deleted, so this one doesnt make sense
Personally i would consider myself a decently quick improver at this game. I find a main reason for that is, ever since i started playing I was ADDICTED to maps i couldn't play, andm ost of the time that i could barely even pass. However, I have had the same struggles as many others have with skillcap. I have had to go out of my way and really push myself, to be able to build good consistency and fundamentals, in order to actually clutch out good accuracy FC's when the time comes i actually am able to play the maps. I also used to mainly be a player who played a bunch of super huge and fast jumps, and also sometiems stacked short streams with next to no finger control that were just really fast. While I still do play that a lot, I have found that ever since branching out around the mid 5 digit range, I have found success in almost every skillset, even some you may not expect such as memorization, and technological aim. This has also contrubuted greatly to being able to really solidify those jump and speed abilities. Lately, I have been very stuck in pp. I can't progress and set new top plays, but the difference between me and otyher people is I recognize exactly why that is. I don't have the motivation to grind out FC's on maps that actually award me good amounts of pp, and I have also started to delve way deeper into a lot of different skilsets rather than a really sharp focus on nomod jumps. Around 150 hours for first 200, and about 400 hours for first 300. I am now up at 1.1k hours, with no 400. But a lot of those hours have been spent SS grindind, completioniststing, unconventional skillsets, grinding out scores on random maps that don't contribute to my skill. I RECOGNIZE these issues, and I quite frankly do not care that much about general rank increase anymore. If I did, I would go straight to doing stuff the way I used to do them, and I can guarantee I could reach 4 digit in less than a month. But I am unwilling and unmotivated to go through what that month would consist of.
How did you swap over from pushing skill cap and going for scores on maps outside of your range to building consistency and fundamentals? I have around 225 hours in the game and my top play is 150, I have around 12 7 star passes on stable, 50+ on lazer, fcs on super high 5 stars (300+ for SS), and 0/1 miss plays on some 6 star maps, but I just cant get a play above 150, and I know its an accuracy and consistency issue but I have no idea how to actually get better at those things
Did you even watch the video? He talks about not to look too much into the numbers, also 2 similar sr does not mean the same level of difficulty as they may require different skillsets. All I can say is enjoy game play maps you like be it outside your comfort zone or not you’ll improve nonetheless. Stay consistent though💪
@@FlameOfWar Personally I started to just play a whole bunch of different kinds of maps, not relaly caring too much about how I performed. I can't even really remember, but I know eventualyl msot skillsets just "click"
The mental barrier of numbers really does play a huge factor. When I was new, I had no idea what AR or OD was. I would mix around and try out mods a lot and occasionally end up with a neat score that I show someone and their response would be something like "I cant read AR 10.3" and I remember being like "wtf AR can go higher than 10?" because well osu doesn't, or didn't at the time, show anything past AR 10. Letting myself organically improve through ignorance was a happy accident. Also I would like to make a note of age being some kind of factor. I am in my early 30s, aside from joint pain because your body starts to fall apart as you reach your 30s, I really don't experience anything I would consider a barrier to improving other than time. I find that most people that complain about being too old are ranked way lower than me and 10 years younger.
A big one here is to not be ashamed to be stupid sometimes and admitting it to yourself. A lot of good players previously went through plenty of confusion and cluelessness, depressed meltdowns that it's all over after a bad session or period, mindblocks, self-diagnosed injuries and illnesses, cringevibrating doubletap high bpms, switching playstyle and settings every other map, or being inconsistant with their own advice. Just a matter of getting back on track every time and growing little by little as a player
I couldn’t play dt well so I was like “maybe I can brute force it” and after like a week of nonstop dt I beat my top play by nearly 60pp and got all new top 5 plays
DT legit feels like a cheat code bro, it makes me feel like "why would i put in the effort to fc a nomod low 6 star map (250pp or so) when i can fc a low 6 star DT map that is both easier and gives like 300pp"
If I have to dedicate every hour of my day for months straight just to get past normal, then no thanks not a market for me. That kind of dedication to a game like this just causes stress, burnout, rage and destroys good habits you might have had.
Thanks for this awesome video. I just realized that I was subconciously avoiding doing speed. I will just keep playing these speed maps even if i get like around 80% acc. Will see if there is improvement in the future!
great video, been struggling with the same kinda issue simply just not motivated/havent put enough time to improve, got capped at 6* 200bpm in 2020 and never bothered to grind myself out of it so ive been stuck for 4 years playing maps which are comfortable for me, maybe even closer to 5, im turning 26 soonTM maybe its over for me idk but im gonna try, very encouraging thank mr willy!
i used to be able to get 3k pc/month very easily before, and i even thought that it was pretty low. recently though, i saw my "hits per play" at 257 and wanted to improve that (ironic considering what willy said in the video, i know) im currently at 267.54 hits per play, but at march 12, 2024, ive only gotten 400 playcount. by this point of the month id normally have around 1200-1500. even though ive played for the same amount of time, ive gotten 3-4x less PC. at the same time, i feel as if these 400 plays have so much more value than when i would have had 1500.
Mrekk whenever anyone asks how he improved: "idk" It's like enlightenment. If you try too hard to reach it, you'll never get there. You have to wait for it to come to you.
I had the same issue like a year ago, a little over. I was also at the point where I needed to learn streams in order to fc more maps and I would play a stream map very rarely when I felt like it and nothing changed. Later on, I started to play a couple of stream maps every session and I ended up doing really good. I managed to fc rog, which I thought I would never be able to do lol. It has been some time since that fc and I didn't play consistently so I am slower now but I know I can get back to that level much quicker and surpass it. My streaming ability improved a lot, but my aim, not so much, and that is the next thing that I am focusing on a bit more. So all in all, this video is very relatable and true and most of us are just making up excuses instead of putting in the work, because it's easier.
real shit, the moment i started to play more than like 30mins a day and put in effort i started to improve just like that now im actually approaching 4 digit pretty fast
One misconception about improvement is that it's continuous, when looking at it in a large scale it sure look like it does, but when you look at it closely, it's more of a staircase, you don't just play a lot and look back and say "damn i have improved a lot" without feeling it along the way, you will be like "why am i not improving" then one day "why am i doing so well today no way i just improved". If you did improve, you will know it Playing a lot will usually shuffle through all the combination of ways you play the game and you will subconsciously pick the best one, that's why play more help you improve (that's also why sometimes you lose your skill the next day because you couldn't maintain the previous thing you did right) have you ever have a map that was suppose to be in your skill range but you just can't play it comfortably? But then completely breeze through it the next day? That's most likely because you changed your grip or your posture or the way you look at the note or maybe even your specs placement I once tried to read in a funny way by focusing on absurd spot on the note and somehow improved my skill drastically because of that If you are not hitting a pattern, change the way you hit it, look for way to utilize the input available, you might choose to listen to your irl keyboard sound, feel the mousepad for the cursor movement, change the finger movement you use to tap the key, time the note by using the music instead of the approach circle, mentally split patterns in different way, etc... This is also the reason why plateau exist, you did all the obvious change there are and get stuck. Many people really spend a lot of effort improving but hitting a plateau because of this and lose their motivation thinking "this is my peak", but you just need to figure out that one thing you need to change to continue improving, if you normally play NM try playing HD or EZ or maybe even EZHD, you doesn't need to be good you just need to really try reading the notes so your mental adjust to reading those note so when you go back to NM the way you look at notes would be different. Just do absurd things and then go back and see if you improved is the fastest way to get out of plateau (from my experience)
Been playing since 2011. I agree with that self reflective mindset. I hadn't realistically heavily compared myself with others since 2017-2018-ish and instead focused more on having fun playing new maps than spamming the same patterns for days. I think hitting walls on improvement is normal, but having the strategy and mindset to the path for improvement is required to push past those walls. I mean, I have my own minimum requirements for clearing maps, but I also don't let the failure of hitting those requirements hold me back from moving forward and finding different techniques and patterns to learn from. After all, the total PP displayed on the profile isn't exactly Performance Points, but the current Peak Performance you have at the time.
As long as hes human and you're human, you can reach as far as he can. Only time becomes the factor to reach it. Ive been trying my best to become as good as Guest037/Adrastea when it comes to thumb playstyle and I keep on playing as much as I can eventho struggling alot. I can do low bpm stream for now and focusing on improving my aim and flow if stamina and finger control hits the wall. Thanks for spreading this message about comparing yourself to others but instead focus more on self improvement.
The thing about making excuses is so fucking real, i only discovered i should stop feeling like that when i tried to play in the 6WC and got absolutely destroyed in DT and thought "You know what, its time to learn DT" so i went and did it, now i can read ar 8.5 DT comfortably and retry spam ar 9 DT maps until im able to do them, also got like 60k ranks from DT farming which was very satisfying for me since i thought i'd never be able to get a 300pp play and get out of 6 digit
One thing I hear a lot of people say is "You just have to put the hours into it". But I really dont like that phrase since I took it too literally. You cant just play a lot of maps expecting to become better. You have to actually try to hit EVERY circle and try your actual best to improve.
Patience and ability to coach yourself is everything, I was practicing speed for a very long time (I think months of just speed maps) with little improvement and stayed at 240bpm streams. After coming back to the game after 1.5 year I realized with a replay analyzer that I was fingerlocking and I DID have the speed to tap up to 280 but not the finger control, so after practicing that for a few weeks I got to streaming 250bpm. I wish I knew about replay analyzer before that though, I probably wouldnt have been a hardstuck for so long xd
I usually play on maps that I can beat to improve and I enjoy it, and when you see the score improve you will be happy and it makes you better and makes you happy.
every mutual i see online playing every day and always giving their all to becoming better are always the ones to improve the fastest. dunno if it applies to other people but think of someone u know who plays a lot and is constantly skill capping, are they improving a lot? that's all the proof you need that effort yields results
this is what i would have told off to my past me if i had the chance yet i am kinda angry i dont apply it, i want that magic of being clueless at what im doing back yk
i remember how i couldnt read ar10 and got so upset about not being able to play hr so i played hr and actually tried for an hour and set a new second top play and my first 7 star fc lmao
You'll be good at what you practice, that's what I learned over all the years of playing. I was and still am someone who was always more interested in trying to get high accuracy or FCing specific maps for w/e reason than actually pushing skillcaps, so I got good at just that, getting good acc with HD on maps up to 6 stars, 180ish bpm (or up to 200 without longer streams) and some easy DT maps I could get top 50 leaderboards on. It's not just about the time you put in, you have to actually play maps that are absolutely too hard for you for weeks before it's not too hard anymore. You have to suffer through constantly playing with nofail and getting B ranks, hands going sore, and you have to be OK with feeling stupid when you are unable to keep up with the reading. Sometimes I get sad/angry just like willy did about "having 2-3 times more playtime as some others but I can't even pass the maps those guys can FC". I also thought about all the possible excuses, including: lack of talent, shitty setup, getting nervous. I'm at the point where I can finally admit that I'm bad BECAUSE I choose to be bad; I enjoy comfort too much when I play, almost never pushing my limits. Perhaps ironically, the fact that I can still have a lot of, perhaps even more fun this way is holding me back. All in all, I'm not sure if I want to go through all that hassle and put all those hours in while I'm probably not having fun just to get better. Perhaps my greatest motivation would be to be able to play (and not with HT or RX) some of my favorite songs like metal maps that just absolutely don't have easier versions.. or maybe I should just become a mapper instead, lol. If anyone actually decided to read this, I'd like to know: what motivates you to push your limits in osu?
lol i read all of it and i can relate it to it a lot, i look at other people and they have such lower playtime than me but still do so much better, the reason i started playing osu was literlaly because i liked the fact that aim was a part of it and watching videos of people doing really fast "cool" maps and then i figured out i could play songs from my spotify playlist lol and yeah, thats kinda what motivated me seeing other people that are at my skill level and trying to get better than them and just finding more good songs and playing those, i also blame things like shitty setup and minor aim mistaked that fk me up, lack of talent. But I guess its nice to see someone that was in the same situation as me even if a little bit similar, i can pass most 4 stars with 50 hours of playtime while my friend can do that with only 30 :((
I love to think that the only roof u have is the one you set. Mrekk set a roof with his goals, yet he surpasses them. Don't try to be like others, be yourself and focus on yourself, then you can compare how far youve come (e.g. i went from 200k to 70k ir 4months, massive w for myself)
I have learned to stream faster and more consistently due to my friend always putting these 9* 270bpm nomod maps in multi which I absolutely hated (still do) since I couldnt survive more than one kiai in there but it helped me learn alternate and now I can comfortably do long 200-210bpm bursts
A very hard topic for me is not being able to do what i have done/been able to do before, like stream 200+ bpm but after a while now of playing less consistently i can barely hit over 20 notes of 200bpm. How can people break this barrier and get back to their peak? Maybe knowing that it is possible, you've done it before, you just have to put in some time and it should come quicker much than the first time. 'Fixing rust' would be an interesting video!
i'm 16.9k rank at this point, stuck with my aim, high ar reading, most importantly - grip issues.I really think i don't push myself hard enough at this point, so i'll start. And when i get to 3 digit i'll leave another comment down here
Not looking at the stats of a newly downloaded beatmap and going straight into allowed me to farm so many 400s during my late 5 digit and early 4 digit era was my method. Looking how much pp the map is worth, how many fcs does it have, whats the bpm just shouldn't be the focus when trying to improve or simply farm a skillset your 100% comfortable with.
this playtime really triggers me , thats why i play offline and dont even bother to login (i have 40h playtime on the site which i know is low , but i felt like this playtime thing just blocks me from having fun but forced me to tryhard to get better pp faster and if i fail im shit), is more chill if u have this mindset like me "high playtime but barely doing 4star maps=bad" , so i just like i said started playing offline and chill myself not giving a f**k i have simple goal in this game - to pass self vs self pendelum on 5star :D which still looks like impossible task(hopefully it will look possible after some time)
Ive now moved on from osu! and now currently MaiMai You really have to out in effort to get better, and show up even in days where you basically get nothing in return
Im only 300k but i definitely conpare myself alot, i do push myself and have improved but because many people i see do higher bpm , i believe its impossible but anyone can achieve what they want with effort. Mindset is definitely so important, should always look at improvements even if its small and have fun
based willy take, i also wanna do a discussion video on this topic, you mostly said what i’ve been thinking. for over a year i’ve been stuck on 200+ bpm not being able to stream anything under, saying i “just have bad finger control” and not taking accountability for where my skill is at. but then i started relearning streams from the bottom up. i put nf on for the first time since i started playing and little by little im fcing low bpm maps i couldn’t even play a few months ago. before this i did the same with learning dt, always been a no mod player and told myself i “just wasn’t a dt player”. then i actually sat down, started with ar8 dt, and went up by .1 ar every 3 days and quickly got my first ar8.6 dt fc not much later. before training i just chalked it up to not having the reaction time like you said. we are truly the only ones responsible for our performance and osu players will blame anything before blaming themselves for being “stuck”
I do think play count is also really important though if you’re putting in at least 1k plays a month where you’re playing with the right mindset, you’re guaranteed to improve. Came upon that revelation myself when I got 600pp after not really playing for months it’s just time and effort like anything else
I honestly dont believe this. Some people CAN just do everything way better than you ever will. I was an osu completionist for 7 years training acc on every song and i still get absolutely DESTROYED on acc by people who played for like 1 month total then practiced acc for 2 days. This also applies to physical limits. I nearly got to 2 digits and my physical speed hasnt risen by 1 bpm since the day i started playing (200 bpm trills 150 jacks)
i got an injury from trying to improve my speed (i cant steam faster than 140bpm). now everytime i try to push my finger hurts immediately. gg 4years and still 6digit so i quit
nope. i just keep getting worse through that formula of improvement. i just keep tapping slower and slower every damn day, and every time i get this freaking same advice, which somehow doesn't work, i feel awful
Nah for me its mental I keep choking if the maps are 3mins + I'm not consistent enough to fc. Still learning 180 bpm acc as a 5 digit lmao. I'm dumb didnt watch enough its a mental video which is nice
no. i don't want to improve. i want to become worse. my ultimate goal is to become the first four digit six digit. to become this bad i gotta ruin my every single good habit and play so infrequently i get worse at every skill, but stay at my current rank.
Low 6 digit 900k here,wanna change accounts? :)
bro is not binfy 😭😭
Bro didn t see idke...
don't let your dreams be dreams go for 7 digit
Most mentally stable osu! player:
I thought this was just another "how to improve at osu" video but this might be the best one yet
guaranteed 3 digit in 2 months after following this video
@@Khetomi1Surely 😏
clueless
@lemuze get your rafis skin ready and go practice hddt before i overtake you
exactly
Bro turned into digital hypno
actually putting in effort is the best advice, something that i do is play for skill in steps, skill farm then pp farm and then do it again
@imferolla thats a mental thing battle with between my steps
What I do is practice a skillset for a few days-week then swap to another, I almost never farm cause i find it boring
@@sobtrax1846 that is also great, this is also a step, it doesnt always have to be aim or tapping skill.
Putting in the effort is honestly the biggest thing for me, i will play for like 30 min a day for months and not improve then play for 2 hours a day for like a month and suddenly double my rank
The question now is, is this video made for us, or is this video made for you, as something to hold yourself accountable to
Both ;)
I know it may sound very weird but this video is more complex than people will think. I was in a depression state i have some irl issues i can't deal with at the moment and this is a very helpful advice to everyone it just uses osu! as an example. Thank you Willy i never thought you will be the one that gives me that motivational speech so i can move on with my life.
Whatever dude. When is the next Cookiezi Documentary?
fgsky will always be my inspiration for improving
You want to improve? Just keep playing! I'm currently at high 2* range and was really struggling especially on these mini bursts/streams ranging from 3 to 6 notes on higher bpm maps. From one map to another I suddenly realized what the problem was - it just made "click". I tried to hit each individual circle consciously and lost the beat on my tapping fingers doing so. So I tried for a couple maps to just move the cursor along the pattern while continue tapping to the beat and that did the trick. I guess that's what you call flow aim. I'm still getting a bit used to it but I'm now much more comfortable on the higher 2* maps than I used to be.
So back to the point: Just keep playing and you figure out your weaknesses naturally which leads to more improvement.
Thanks for this video man. The "expectations" mentality is something that I am suffering through myself.
Such a good anology
It took me 3 YEARS to get to rank #99 999
But a couple weeks to get to #36 000
There are no tricks, no shortcuts, just play the game.
Also, practice the thing you hate. Anything.
it took me 1 year to get to rank 70k but cant improve any further 😢
tip: practice maps that you have fun
if you struggles with 220bpm, play 220bpm songs that you enjoy, or maybe map yourself a 220bpm song.
when i was struggling with low bpm, i just mapped bewitched and played for a few weeks it (and it actually worked)
its on my channel btw@@ap-qd9xf
or maybe even remap songs you enjoy, i remember remaping snow goose a few months ago
edit: just noticed my other reply got deleted, so this one doesnt make sense
@@miguel_noob6668 too much effort, send link tho
0:14 please dont do that face ever again
Personally i would consider myself a decently quick improver at this game. I find a main reason for that is, ever since i started playing I was ADDICTED to maps i couldn't play, andm ost of the time that i could barely even pass. However, I have had the same struggles as many others have with skillcap. I have had to go out of my way and really push myself, to be able to build good consistency and fundamentals, in order to actually clutch out good accuracy FC's when the time comes i actually am able to play the maps. I also used to mainly be a player who played a bunch of super huge and fast jumps, and also sometiems stacked short streams with next to no finger control that were just really fast. While I still do play that a lot, I have found that ever since branching out around the mid 5 digit range, I have found success in almost every skillset, even some you may not expect such as memorization, and technological aim. This has also contrubuted greatly to being able to really solidify those jump and speed abilities. Lately, I have been very stuck in pp. I can't progress and set new top plays, but the difference between me and otyher people is I recognize exactly why that is. I don't have the motivation to grind out FC's on maps that actually award me good amounts of pp, and I have also started to delve way deeper into a lot of different skilsets rather than a really sharp focus on nomod jumps. Around 150 hours for first 200, and about 400 hours for first 300. I am now up at 1.1k hours, with no 400. But a lot of those hours have been spent SS grindind, completioniststing, unconventional skillsets, grinding out scores on random maps that don't contribute to my skill. I RECOGNIZE these issues, and I quite frankly do not care that much about general rank increase anymore. If I did, I would go straight to doing stuff the way I used to do them, and I can guarantee I could reach 4 digit in less than a month. But I am unwilling and unmotivated to go through what that month would consist of.
How did you swap over from pushing skill cap and going for scores on maps outside of your range to building consistency and fundamentals? I have around 225 hours in the game and my top play is 150, I have around 12 7 star passes on stable, 50+ on lazer, fcs on super high 5 stars (300+ for SS), and 0/1 miss plays on some 6 star maps, but I just cant get a play above 150, and I know its an accuracy and consistency issue but I have no idea how to actually get better at those things
Did you even watch the video? He talks about not to look too much into the numbers, also 2 similar sr does not mean the same level of difficulty as they may require different skillsets. All I can say is enjoy game play maps you like be it outside your comfort zone or not you’ll improve nonetheless. Stay consistent though💪
@@FlameOfWarPlay lower star maps than usual and push your acc. If you have trouble with tapping or reading a certain BPM build up to it step by step.
@@FlameOfWarAlso just play lower star marathon maps
@@FlameOfWar Personally I started to just play a whole bunch of different kinds of maps, not relaly caring too much about how I performed. I can't even really remember, but I know eventualyl msot skillsets just "click"
The mental barrier of numbers really does play a huge factor. When I was new, I had no idea what AR or OD was. I would mix around and try out mods a lot and occasionally end up with a neat score that I show someone and their response would be something like "I cant read AR 10.3" and I remember being like "wtf AR can go higher than 10?" because well osu doesn't, or didn't at the time, show anything past AR 10. Letting myself organically improve through ignorance was a happy accident. Also I would like to make a note of age being some kind of factor. I am in my early 30s, aside from joint pain because your body starts to fall apart as you reach your 30s, I really don't experience anything I would consider a barrier to improving other than time. I find that most people that complain about being too old are ranked way lower than me and 10 years younger.
A big one here is to not be ashamed to be stupid sometimes and admitting it to yourself. A lot of good players previously went through plenty of confusion and cluelessness, depressed meltdowns that it's all over after a bad session or period, mindblocks, self-diagnosed injuries and illnesses, cringevibrating doubletap high bpms, switching playstyle and settings every other map, or being inconsistant with their own advice. Just a matter of getting back on track every time and growing little by little as a player
this video already ruined speed, aim and reading players for the next 1000 years thanks willy
why?
I couldn’t play dt well so I was like “maybe I can brute force it” and after like a week of nonstop dt I beat my top play by nearly 60pp and got all new top 5 plays
DT legit feels like a cheat code bro, it makes me feel like "why would i put in the effort to fc a nomod low 6 star map (250pp or so) when i can fc a low 6 star DT map that is both easier and gives like 300pp"
If I have to dedicate every hour of my day for months straight just to get past normal, then no thanks not a market for me. That kind of dedication to a game like this just causes stress, burnout, rage and destroys good habits you might have had.
this is something i really needed to hear right now, thanks willy
Thanks for this awesome video. I just realized that I was subconciously avoiding doing speed. I will just keep playing these speed maps even if i get like around 80% acc. Will see if there is improvement in the future!
Thank you willy
Every time I come back from a break from osu, I come back better fcing maps on the first try that I tried to fc hundreds of time months earlier
great video, been struggling with the same kinda issue simply just not motivated/havent put enough time to improve, got capped at 6* 200bpm in 2020 and never bothered to grind myself out of it so ive been stuck for 4 years playing maps which are comfortable for me, maybe even closer to 5, im turning 26 soonTM maybe its over for me idk but im gonna try, very encouraging thank mr willy!
how talala said, to improve you need 3k playcount a month
Not really. It is a difference if you play 3k easy maps or 3k challenging maps
Retryspamming for 3k playcount is doing way less than playing 1k consistency maps all the way through
Найс, реф к деду даже тут
thats not true at all I get 1k plays a month maybe but rarely retry and play maps that push my skillsets and notice improvement
i used to be able to get 3k pc/month very easily before, and i even thought that it was pretty low.
recently though, i saw my "hits per play" at 257 and wanted to improve that (ironic considering what willy said in the video, i know)
im currently at 267.54 hits per play, but at march 12, 2024, ive only gotten 400 playcount. by this point of the month id normally have around 1200-1500. even though ive played for the same amount of time, ive gotten 3-4x less PC.
at the same time, i feel as if these 400 plays have so much more value than when i would have had 1500.
this is the most helpfull video ive seen about osu ever. thanks a lot
Mrekk whenever anyone asks how he improved: "idk"
It's like enlightenment. If you try too hard to reach it, you'll never get there. You have to wait for it to come to you.
I had the same issue like a year ago, a little over. I was also at the point where I needed to learn streams in order to fc more maps and I would play a stream map very rarely when I felt like it and nothing changed. Later on, I started to play a couple of stream maps every session and I ended up doing really good. I managed to fc rog, which I thought I would never be able to do lol. It has been some time since that fc and I didn't play consistently so I am slower now but I know I can get back to that level much quicker and surpass it. My streaming ability improved a lot, but my aim, not so much, and that is the next thing that I am focusing on a bit more. So all in all, this video is very relatable and true and most of us are just making up excuses instead of putting in the work, because it's easier.
real shit, the moment i started to play more than like 30mins a day and put in effort i started to improve just like that now im actually approaching 4 digit pretty fast
One misconception about improvement is that it's continuous, when looking at it in a large scale it sure look like it does, but when you look at it closely, it's more of a staircase, you don't just play a lot and look back and say "damn i have improved a lot" without feeling it along the way, you will be like "why am i not improving" then one day "why am i doing so well today no way i just improved". If you did improve, you will know it
Playing a lot will usually shuffle through all the combination of ways you play the game and you will subconsciously pick the best one, that's why play more help you improve (that's also why sometimes you lose your skill the next day because you couldn't maintain the previous thing you did right)
have you ever have a map that was suppose to be in your skill range but you just can't play it comfortably? But then completely breeze through it the next day? That's most likely because you changed your grip or your posture or the way you look at the note or maybe even your specs placement
I once tried to read in a funny way by focusing on absurd spot on the note and somehow improved my skill drastically because of that
If you are not hitting a pattern, change the way you hit it, look for way to utilize the input available, you might choose to listen to your irl keyboard sound, feel the mousepad for the cursor movement, change the finger movement you use to tap the key, time the note by using the music instead of the approach circle, mentally split patterns in different way, etc...
This is also the reason why plateau exist, you did all the obvious change there are and get stuck. Many people really spend a lot of effort improving but hitting a plateau because of this and lose their motivation thinking "this is my peak", but you just need to figure out that one thing you need to change to continue improving, if you normally play NM try playing HD or EZ or maybe even EZHD, you doesn't need to be good you just need to really try reading the notes so your mental adjust to reading those note so when you go back to NM the way you look at notes would be different. Just do absurd things and then go back and see if you improved is the fastest way to get out of plateau (from my experience)
willy has so much experience. so take note. he also has the best narration voice in my opinion
Been playing since 2011. I agree with that self reflective mindset. I hadn't realistically heavily compared myself with others since 2017-2018-ish and instead focused more on having fun playing new maps than spamming the same patterns for days. I think hitting walls on improvement is normal, but having the strategy and mindset to the path for improvement is required to push past those walls.
I mean, I have my own minimum requirements for clearing maps, but I also don't let the failure of hitting those requirements hold me back from moving forward and finding different techniques and patterns to learn from. After all, the total PP displayed on the profile isn't exactly Performance Points, but the current Peak Performance you have at the time.
this video helped me a lot and literally a week after watching it my top play went from 572pp - 794pp, thanks willy u a cool dude !!
The secret to improvement is making osu your MAIN game/acticity, no room for other stuff
As long as hes human and you're human, you can reach as far as he can. Only time becomes the factor to reach it. Ive been trying my best to become as good as Guest037/Adrastea when it comes to thumb playstyle and I keep on playing as much as I can eventho struggling alot. I can do low bpm stream for now and focusing on improving my aim and flow if stamina and finger control hits the wall. Thanks for spreading this message about comparing yourself to others but instead focus more on self improvement.
This is the best Osu iomprovement video on UA-cam by far
Bro fr said "Be real and play more."
The thing about making excuses is so fucking real, i only discovered i should stop feeling like that when i tried to play in the 6WC and got absolutely destroyed in DT and thought "You know what, its time to learn DT" so i went and did it, now i can read ar 8.5 DT comfortably and retry spam ar 9 DT maps until im able to do them, also got like 60k ranks from DT farming which was very satisfying for me since i thought i'd never be able to get a 300pp play and get out of 6 digit
this couldnth have popped up at a better time thanks willy
Facts. In this point in time, osu! is still mainly a mental game.
Long story short, practice what needs practiced, dont be afraid to do poorly, and numbers are evil. Got it, thanks =DD
One thing I hear a lot of people say is "You just have to put the hours into it". But I really dont like that phrase since I took it too literally. You cant just play a lot of maps expecting to become better. You have to actually try to hit EVERY circle and try your actual best to improve.
Patience and ability to coach yourself is everything, I was practicing speed for a very long time (I think months of just speed maps) with little improvement and stayed at 240bpm streams.
After coming back to the game after 1.5 year I realized with a replay analyzer that I was fingerlocking and I DID have the speed to tap up to 280 but not the finger control, so after practicing that for a few weeks I got to streaming 250bpm. I wish I knew about replay analyzer before that though, I probably wouldnt have been a hardstuck for so long xd
Interesting video,ty for doing that!
I usually play on maps that I can beat to improve and I enjoy it, and when you see the score improve you will be happy and it makes you better and makes you happy.
100% true, doubt can make improvement impossible at times but if you put the effort with enough time you will not believe how much you can improve
When it comes to speed and stamina i think genetics play a huge role but overall improvement is exactly what you r saying
genuinely such a good video
every mutual i see online playing every day and always giving their all to becoming better are always the ones to improve the fastest. dunno if it applies to other people but think of someone u know who plays a lot and is constantly skill capping, are they improving a lot? that's all the proof you need that effort yields results
Dude is spitting facts like wildfire holy moley
If i practice 200 for like more than 2 hours, i forget how to read and tap anything else and need to take a brake for a few days to reset my brain
this is what i would have told off to my past me if i had the chance yet i am kinda angry i dont apply it, i want that magic of being clueless at what im doing back yk
funny how this video comes in my recommended the day after i have my biggest popoff day in my history of osu lmao
i remember how i couldnt read ar10 and got so upset about not being able to play hr so i played hr and actually tried for an hour and set a new second top play and my first 7 star fc lmao
Ive lost my glasses for about like 2 weeks and within like a week of just grinding i went from mid 4 star to low-mid 5 star just by grinding lmao
You'll be good at what you practice, that's what I learned over all the years of playing. I was and still am someone who was always more interested in trying to get high accuracy or FCing specific maps for w/e reason than actually pushing skillcaps, so I got good at just that, getting good acc with HD on maps up to 6 stars, 180ish bpm (or up to 200 without longer streams) and some easy DT maps I could get top 50 leaderboards on. It's not just about the time you put in, you have to actually play maps that are absolutely too hard for you for weeks before it's not too hard anymore. You have to suffer through constantly playing with nofail and getting B ranks, hands going sore, and you have to be OK with feeling stupid when you are unable to keep up with the reading. Sometimes I get sad/angry just like willy did about "having 2-3 times more playtime as some others but I can't even pass the maps those guys can FC". I also thought about all the possible excuses, including: lack of talent, shitty setup, getting nervous. I'm at the point where I can finally admit that I'm bad BECAUSE I choose to be bad; I enjoy comfort too much when I play, almost never pushing my limits. Perhaps ironically, the fact that I can still have a lot of, perhaps even more fun this way is holding me back. All in all, I'm not sure if I want to go through all that hassle and put all those hours in while I'm probably not having fun just to get better. Perhaps my greatest motivation would be to be able to play (and not with HT or RX) some of my favorite songs like metal maps that just absolutely don't have easier versions.. or maybe I should just become a mapper instead, lol. If anyone actually decided to read this, I'd like to know: what motivates you to push your limits in osu?
lol i read all of it and i can relate it to it a lot, i look at other people and they have such lower playtime than me but still do so much better, the reason i started playing osu was literlaly because i liked the fact that aim was a part of it and watching videos of people doing really fast "cool" maps and then i figured out i could play songs from my spotify playlist lol and yeah, thats kinda what motivated me seeing other people that are at my skill level and trying to get better than them and just finding more good songs and playing those, i also blame things like shitty setup and minor aim mistaked that fk me up, lack of talent. But I guess its nice to see someone that was in the same situation as me even if a little bit similar, i can pass most 4 stars with 50 hours of playtime while my friend can do that with only 30 :((
This video makes me realise I don't have that desire to improve like I used to. Damn
I don't mind not improving, I've been getting worse for 6 months
I love to think that the only roof u have is the one you set. Mrekk set a roof with his goals, yet he surpasses them. Don't try to be like others, be yourself and focus on yourself, then you can compare how far youve come (e.g. i went from 200k to 70k ir 4months, massive w for myself)
I have learned to stream faster and more consistently due to my friend always putting these 9* 270bpm nomod maps in multi which I absolutely hated (still do) since I couldnt survive more than one kiai in there but it helped me learn alternate and now I can comfortably do long 200-210bpm bursts
As a hardstuck 6 digit I needed to hear the wisdom! thx 👍
A very hard topic for me is not being able to do what i have done/been able to do before, like stream 200+ bpm but after a while now of playing less consistently i can barely hit over 20 notes of 200bpm. How can people break this barrier and get back to their peak? Maybe knowing that it is possible, you've done it before, you just have to put in some time and it should come quicker much than the first time. 'Fixing rust' would be an interesting video!
TIME TO BE SUPER MEGA DELULU AND GET MY GOALS. THANK YOU! >:DDDDDDD
it took me almost 2 months to finally pass some 3 stars maps
best take on this i’ve seen
willy eyes really keep me awake at night
i'm 16.9k rank at this point, stuck with my aim, high ar reading, most importantly - grip issues.I really think i don't push myself hard enough at this point, so i'll start. And when i get to 3 digit i'll leave another comment down here
Not looking at the stats of a newly downloaded beatmap and going straight into allowed me to farm so many 400s during my late 5 digit and early 4 digit era was my method. Looking how much pp the map is worth, how many fcs does it have, whats the bpm just shouldn't be the focus when trying to improve or simply farm a skillset your 100% comfortable with.
real improvers apply the vincent method
For some reason yt unsubscribed me from you, but showed me this video
NEVER BACK DOWN NEVER WHAT????
sounds so easy when you hear it, but actually taking the steps is quite hard.
Still trying tho!
honestly if you ignore the osu jargon this is just legitimate life advice
this playtime really triggers me , thats why i play offline and dont even bother to login (i have 40h playtime on the site which i know is low , but i felt like this playtime thing just blocks me from having fun but forced me to tryhard to get better pp faster and if i fail im shit), is more chill if u have this mindset like me "high playtime but barely doing 4star maps=bad" , so i just like i said started playing offline and chill myself not giving a f**k
i have simple goal in this game - to pass self vs self pendelum on 5star :D
which still looks like impossible task(hopefully it will look possible after some time)
Willy boutta be the Hamza of osu
good video (im trying to get rid of my expectations / anger issues)
Because I'm physically limited and can't make my fingers move
1. play relax
2. play autopilot
repeat and you become god
Ive now moved on from osu! and now currently MaiMai
You really have to out in effort to get better, and show up even in days where you basically get nothing in return
Im only 300k but i definitely conpare myself alot, i do push myself and have improved but because many people i see do higher bpm , i believe its impossible but anyone can achieve what they want with effort. Mindset is definitely so important, should always look at improvements even if its small and have fun
That intro goes crazy lmao
why is he so ray william johnson coded
i improved quicker than anyone i know by a mile
based willy take, i also wanna do a discussion video on this topic, you mostly said what i’ve been thinking. for over a year i’ve been stuck on 200+ bpm not being able to stream anything under, saying i “just have bad finger control” and not taking accountability for where my skill is at. but then i started relearning streams from the bottom up. i put nf on for the first time since i started playing and little by little im fcing low bpm maps i couldn’t even play a few months ago. before this i did the same with learning dt, always been a no mod player and told myself i “just wasn’t a dt player”. then i actually sat down, started with ar8 dt, and went up by .1 ar every 3 days and quickly got my first ar8.6 dt fc not much later. before training i just chalked it up to not having the reaction time like you said. we are truly the only ones responsible for our performance and osu players will blame anything before blaming themselves for being “stuck”
I have 1200 hours of play but I can barely get FC on 4 star maps even though I play every day.
thanks mr Will
It really is just effort (and mindset but that’s part of it)
I do think play count is also really important though if you’re putting in at least 1k plays a month where you’re playing with the right mindset, you’re guaranteed to improve. Came upon that revelation myself when I got 600pp after not really playing for months it’s just time and effort like anything else
well i just got my first 600pp in a year thanks willy you are inspiring
IM GONNA BE THE NEXT MREKK
I honestly dont believe this. Some people CAN just do everything way better than you ever will. I was an osu completionist for 7 years training acc on every song and i still get absolutely DESTROYED on acc by people who played for like 1 month total then practiced acc for 2 days. This also applies to physical limits. I nearly got to 2 digits and my physical speed hasnt risen by 1 bpm since the day i started playing (200 bpm trills 150 jacks)
you have just fallen into the hole, rewatch the video and try to pull yourself out
this man really thinks we want us to improve, little does he know we don't and we all want to be 6 digits
i got an injury from trying to improve my speed (i cant steam faster than 140bpm). now everytime i try to push my finger hurts immediately. gg 4years and still 6digit so i quit
I don't consider myself a good player when I give FC on a farm map that has a linear and easy pattern.
I can relate with the ar thing I can do past 10 now but before I had to go on lazer difficulty adjust to practice ar10 and I thought that was weird
bro ive been at shit 3 stars for 3 years
300 hour six digit
Rule #1 at improving is to stop coping.
Let me take break
nope. i just keep getting worse through that formula of improvement. i just keep tapping slower and slower every damn day, and every time i get this freaking same advice, which somehow doesn't work, i feel awful
take a break. like a few weeks or longer.
i will try it, thx
Nah for me its mental I keep choking if the maps are 3mins + I'm not consistent enough to fc. Still learning 180 bpm acc as a 5 digit lmao.
I'm dumb didnt watch enough its a mental video which is nice
i gave up... also known as my hand hurts
I played 200npm the last week and i finaly got good